--- Log opened Tue Mar 01 00:00:00 2005 --- Day changed Tue Mar 01 2005 00:00 < mnemoc_> the second exam is additional to the thesis 00:11 < CIA-9> amery * r6909 /trunk/package/network/nss_ldap/ (nss_ldap.conf samplesdir.patch): * improved nss_ldap to use pkgprefix and to install default config on $docdir 00:14 < CIA-9> rene * r6910 /trunk/package/network/slmodem/slmodem.desc: 00:14 < CIA-9> * removed x86-64 flag from slmodem, since AFAICS only x86 DSP libraries 00:14 < CIA-9> are inluded ... 00:15 < rxr> Drupal is not yet compatible with PHP5. 00:16 < mnemoc_> uhm? 00:16 < mnemoc_> i read it was 00:17 < CIA-9> amery * r6911 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+.desc: * updated gtk+ (2.6.2 -> 2.6.3) 00:20 < CIA-9> amery * r6912 /trunk/package/security/heimdal/slapd-module-smbk5pwd-v1.3.diff: * fixed hemdail/openldap extension removing a duplicated patch 00:20 < rxr> http://drupal.org/node/15117 00:22 < mnemoc_> Brian, 00:22 < mnemoc_> Please note that the development community is working to make Drupal php5 compatible. It is not ignoring the issue. If you would review the cvs commit log and various bug reports, you would see this activity. 00:22 < mnemoc_> svn co ? :p 00:23 < mnemoc_> i think you may try it and see if problems are on core or on modules 00:23 < rxr> no statement indicates it is already working 00:23 < rxr> I do not want to debug php reight now .. 00:23 < rxr> but since I do not use php anywhere I can just install php4 ... 00:24 < CIA-9> amery * r6913 /trunk/package/network/nss_ldap/ (nss_ldap.conf samplesdir.patch): * changed nss_ldap to install it's default config template on sysconfdir 00:24 < mnemoc_> :) 00:25 < CIA-9> amery * r6914 /trunk/package/network/pam_ldap/pam_ldap.conf: * cleaned pam_ldap.conf to use pkgprefix and other tiny things 00:28 * mnemoc_ to supermarket.... cu from home 00:31 < rxr> cu 00:55 < rxr> I know why I'm not in the database business 01:36 < rxr> ouhm 01:36 < rxr> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/old-client.html 01:44 < rxr> finally - drupal running ... :-( 01:51 < rxr> ok - works so far 01:53 < mnemoc_> re 01:54 < mnemoc_> why the sad face? 01:57 < rxr> because as usual it required so much ugly database and co fiddeling 01:57 < rxr> I hate that 01:57 < rxr> especially when strange mysql quirks appear on the horizon 01:57 < mnemoc_> mysql sticks 01:58 * rxr is normally not in the database buisiness ... 01:59 < mnemoc_> url? 02:00 < rxr> locally on my iBook 02:00 < rxr> and that is behind some el-cheapo W-lan router ... 02:00 < mnemoc_> :| 02:01 < mnemoc_> how can i force curl to dump after a segfault? 02:02 < mnemoc_> i'm getting random segfaults (on redirects?) from df 02:02 < mnemoc_> rxr: your patch for slmodem didn't worked 02:03 < rxr> what is the error ? 02:03 < mnemoc_> usr/sbin/slmodemd: linux24 linux26 02:03 < mnemoc_> var/lib/slmodem: linux24 linux26 02:03 < mnemoc_> :) 02:03 < mnemoc_> after removing both kernels 02:05 < mnemoc_> =====[build_this_package:809 (last $?=0)> make ARCH=i386 CROSS_COMPILE= KCC=kcc KERNEL_INCLUDES=/TOOLCHAIN/src.linux24.1109636214.20156.a8c01505/linux-2.4.29/include KERNEL_DIR= CC=gcc CPP=cpp CXX=g++ prefix=/usr 02:05 < mnemoc_> make ARCH=i386 CROSS_COMPILE= KCC=kcc -C modem all 02:10 < rxr> ok - fix in a sec 02:10 < mnemoc_> finally libexif fixed! :D 02:10 < CIA-9> amery * r6915 /trunk/package/graphic/libexif/ (hotfix.patch libexif.desc): * updated libexif (0.5.12 -> 0.6.11) 02:11 < rxr> ^- try this ;-) 02:11 < rxr> -v 02:11 < rxr> mnemoc_: the 0.6 caused regressions ! 02:11 < CIA-9> rene * r6916 /trunk/package/network/slmodem/postlinux.conf: 02:11 < CIA-9> * fixed typo in slmodem.postlinux.conf and really only install the 02:11 < CIA-9> drivers - hopefully - untested 02:12 < mnemoc_> rxr: yes? 02:12 < rxr> r4551 | rene | 2004-11-04 12:01:34 +0100 (Thu, 04 Nov 2004) | 4 lines 02:12 < rxr> * downdated libexif (0.6.11 -> 0.5.12) fixes compilation of nautilus 02:12 < rxr> and gphoto 02:12 < rxr> * removed the "no-exif" patch from nautilus 02:12 < mnemoc_> oh 02:12 < rxr> revert and add a comment ;-) 02:12 < mnemoc_> but haven't they updated? 02:12 < rxr> sorry that I did not ... 02:12 < rxr> I do not think gphoto was updated 02:12 < mnemoc_> ok 02:13 < rxr> r5355 | rene | 2005-01-01 18:28:37 +0100 (Sat, 01 Jan 2005) | 3 lines 02:13 < rxr> * updated gphoto (2.1.4 -> 2.1.5) 02:13 < rxr> hm - ok 02:13 < rxr> but do you really want to test this right now ? 02:13 < rxr> when you can confirm that *gphoto* builds ... 02:13 < rxr> I do not care much about nautius ;-) 02:14 < mnemoc_> :) 02:14 < mnemoc_> i'll revert _but_ i'll continue my ref with 0.6.11 02:16 -!- ideal [~idealm@211.100.227.107] has joined #t2 02:17 < rxr> mnemoc_: great! 02:17 < rxr> hi ideal 02:19 < mnemoc_> ideal: hi... are you using T2 or just looking? 02:20 < mnemoc_> regression note added to wiki 02:21 < rxr> mnemoc_: you remeber that ideal was already around a few times ? 02:21 < mnemoc_> sure 02:21 < mnemoc_> but i don't know if he is _using_ it 02:21 < mnemoc_> or just 'interested' 02:25 -!- idealm [~idealm@211.100.227.107] has joined #t2 02:26 < CIA-9> amery * r6917 /trunk/package/graphic/libexif/ (hotfix.patch libexif.desc): * reverted 6915 until further notices of gphoto and nautilus building against it. NOTE added. 02:26 < idealm> Hi, rxr 02:27 < idealm> hi, mnemoc_ 02:28 < mnemoc_> hi ideal-reloaded 02:30 < mnemoc_> reference build resumed 02:31 < mnemoc_> rxr: http://wiki.t2-project.org/index.cgi?21PendingUpdates 02:33 -!- ideal_ [~idealm_@211.100.227.107] has joined #t2 02:33 -!- ideal_ [~idealm_@211.100.227.107] has left #t2 ["Leaving"] 02:33 -!- ideal_ [~idealm_@211.100.227.107] has joined #t2 02:34 < ideal_> Sorry, something is wrong, I think it will be better later. 02:36 < mnemoc_> :) 02:41 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc 02:43 -!- ideal [~idealm@211.100.227.107] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:46 < rxr> http://www.linuxjournal.com/ <- seems to run drupal 02:46 -!- idealm [~idealm@211.100.227.107] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:47 < rxr> http://www.tuxmagazine.com/ <- too 02:47 < rxr> ^- according to the drupal site 02:47 < mnemoc> :) 02:47 < mnemoc> http://www.linuxjournal.com/ <--- bottom-left 02:48 < rxr> what's ther ? 02:50 < mnemoc> [drupal] 02:51 -!- ideal_ is now known as ideal 02:53 < rxr> ah - there 02:53 < rxr> overlooked it ... 02:57 < _Ragnar_> *grrrr* 02:57 < _Ragnar_> why would almost every 2.4.29 kernel module report a missing symbol: memcpy? 02:59 < rxr> ENOIDEA 03:03 < _Ragnar_> ;p 03:05 < _Ragnar_> btw how do I install the kernel source into /usr/src ? 03:05 < _Ragnar_> or is that not possible any more with t2? 03:06 < mnemoc> not possible :p 03:06 < _Ragnar_> ;P 03:06 < _Ragnar_> then make the package build the kernel so it works!:D 03:06 < mnemoc> "kernel-source-available considered harmfull" 03:06 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: using postlinux.conf 03:06 < _Ragnar_> ? 03:07 < _Ragnar_> oh okay 03:08 < _Ragnar_> ohwell I'll try to build by hand first to see if there's an uclibc bug that does this 03:09 < _Ragnar_> but I don't get it really .. /proc/ksyms shows it to have a memcpy symbol 03:12 < rxr> _Ragnar_: just untar the download/l/linux tarball 03:12 < rxr> and apply all linux2? packages 03:12 < rxr> and of you go messing on it ... 03:15 < _Ragnar_> rxr: yeah that's what I'm doing right now 03:16 < mnemoc> iirc there is an option to not remove after succesfull build 03:16 < rxr> yep ;-) 03:16 < rxr> in the Config ;.) 03:17 < mnemoc> so you Emerge linux24 with that option and rebuild and rebuild in ./debug.sh until you find the problem 03:19 < rxr> http://osddp.org/ <- drupal too 03:23 < mnemoc> :) 03:23 < rxr> but I find using and editing content in drupal rather strange and uncomfortable ... 03:23 < rxr> I hope I get used to it ... 03:24 < mnemoc> yes? 03:24 < mnemoc> i have never written on a drupal 03:24 < rxr> so far I have not managed to structure the pages ... 03:25 < mnemoc> follow the howto :p 03:26 < rxr> if there would be a good howto 03:29 < rxr> Documentation and Support 03:29 < rxr> The Drupal documentation is one of its only weak points. Even though there seems to be a large amount of documentation on the main website, many of the documents are incomplete or do not go into enough depth to cover the topic. 03:30 < rxr> ^- quote from a review 03:31 < rxr> ok - maybe I have a usful overview 03:31 < rxr> need to go to bed 03:31 < rxr> will read it after the sleep cycle 03:31 < rxr> have fun - cu 03:31 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr 05:01 < CIA-9> amery * r6918 /trunk/package/games/bsd-games/ (bsd-games.desc delay_output-sym.patch): * updated bsd-games (2.14 -> 2.16) 05:08 < mnemoc> 1450 builds total, 333 completed fine, 0 with errors. 05:11 < CIA-9> amery * r6919 /trunk/package/printing/lprng/lprng.desc: * updated lprng (3.8.23 -> 3.8.28) 05:12 < mnemoc> rxr: libusb-0.1.10 05:59 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.200.98.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 05:59 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta3 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | CIA, don't ever leave us again! 05:59 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Feb 19 18:03:55 2005] 05:59 [Users #t2] 05:59 [ _Ragnar_] [ ideal] [ mnemoc] [ Postal] [ rxr_ ] 05:59 [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ nzg ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 05:59 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 10 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] 05:59 -!- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 05:59 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 05:59 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 06:07 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.197.243.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:06 -!- mipe [~mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 07:09 -!- ejlozon [1000@c-24-127-70-234.we.client2.attbi.com] has joined #t2 08:30 -!- ejlozon [1000@c-24-127-70-234.we.client2.attbi.com] has left #t2 [] 09:03 < mipe> damm emacs failing 09:41 < jsaw> g'morning 10:02 < mipe> morning jsaw 10:03 < jsaw> hi mipe 11:53 < rxr_> moin 11:53 -!- You're now known as rxr 11:53 < rxr> hi jsaw 12:01 < jsaw> hi rxr 12:15 < jsaw> http://joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html 12:26 < jsaw> http://www.zeit.de/2005/09/Patentj_8ager_neu 12:40 < jsaw> bbl 12:49 < rxr> cu 13:16 < mipe> hmm,gcc started to fail on me :( 13:51 < rxr> hm 13:53 < mipe> infact these are really wierd errors 13:54 < mipe> build wants to use a file that it self removed few commands before... 14:24 < mnemoc> moin 14:25 < mnemoc> hi rxr, jsaw, mipe 14:25 < mnemoc> rxr: if you have some minutes can you take a look into libusb-0.1.10? 14:33 -!- ideal [~idealm_@211.100.227.107] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:34 < rxr> shure 14:34 < rxr> mnemoc: why any specific problem 14:34 < rxr> # 14:35 < mnemoc> a missing header, usb.h but i'm not sure if it can't find it's own usb.h or kernel's 14:35 < mnemoc> and you know that field lots more than i 14:37 < mnemoc> i'm sure that fix will be easy to a clear mind :) 14:37 < rxr> me phoning with apple 14:38 < mnemoc> uhm? 14:38 < rxr> moment 14:41 < rxr> so 14:41 < rxr> next apple call 14:45 < rxr> *lol* 14:50 < rxr> big companies are - lazzy and crazzy 14:50 < rxr> 5th call to the no. I called first to just get developer contacnt ... 14:50 < mnemoc> :) 14:50 < rxr> .oO(never ever commercial OS work again) 14:51 < rxr> M$ also wanted 300EUR + taxes to look into their Office bug ... 14:51 < rxr> of course I'm not willing to finance M$ ... 14:54 < rxr> .oO 14:54 < rxr> hope my paretns phone bill does not increase too much ... 15:01 < rxr> apple is strangely organized - if at all 15:02 < rxr> *g* 15:07 < mnemoc> gtk-sharp->gmime->scrollkeeper->gtk-sharp 15:07 < mnemoc> dependency-loop :( 15:08 < mnemoc> stage 5 is _too_ wide 15:08 < mnemoc> gtk-sharp->gmime->balsa->scrollkeeper->gtk-sharp (forgot balsa) 15:15 < mnemoc> 298.7%./scripts/Download: line 489: 25867 Segmentation fault curl -w '\rFinished downloading %{size_download} bytes in %{time_total} seconds (%{speed_download} bytes/sec). \n' -f --progress-bar $resume $curl_options "$url" -o "$gzfile.incomplete" 15:15 < mnemoc> ERROR: CURL Returned Error 139. Please read the curl manpage. 15:16 < jsaw> sh*t happens 15:20 < mnemoc> it seems to segfault due to multiple redirects 15:21 < mnemoc> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/netpbm/netpbm-10.26.4.tgz?download&failedmirror=unc.dl.sourceforge.net <--- even firefox loops :p 15:22 < mnemoc> jsaw: how is it? 15:24 < mnemoc> puzzle is slow as hell but works 15:26 -!- mipe [~mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["reboot"] 15:27 < mnemoc> Finished downloading 2537773 bytes in 277.913 seconds (9131.000 bytes/sec). 15:27 < mnemoc> puzzle is not an option 15:27 < mnemoc> any suggested sf mirror? 15:29 < jsaw> mnemoc: thanks, she's quite calm. Only problem for Steffi is, we have no running water between 8am-6pm this week... 15:31 < mnemoc> oh 15:31 < mnemoc> scheduled or accident? 15:32 < jsaw> scheduled 15:50 < rxr> the gnome 2.10 default look: 15:50 < rxr> http://clearlooks.sourceforge.net/screenshots/ 15:50 < jsaw> seen it... hmmm... 15:51 < jsaw> looks weel sorted, but I wouldn't call it appealing 15:53 * rxr would like such a clutter less Qt theme ... 15:53 < CIA-9> amery * r6920 /trunk/package/x11/netpbm/netpbm.desc: * updated netpbm (10.25 -> 10.26.4) 15:53 < jsaw> :) 15:53 < rxr> for my taste the qt aps often have to many border lines that make them look ugly ... 15:53 < mnemoc> yep 15:54 < rxr> ok - libusb and then cms play 15:58 < rxr> mnemoc: did you try libusb .10 or .10a ? 15:58 < mnemoc> .10 o_O 15:59 < mnemoc> i didn't see .10a 15:59 < rxr> let's see ;-) 15:59 < rxr> I also only by accident ;-) 15:59 < mnemoc> that 'a' sound like "this one builds" 15:59 < rxr> I know i some minutes 15:59 < rxr> I commit it then - and move it from exta to base ;-) 15:59 < rxr> but the 10a archive is smaller than the 10 one .. 16:00 < rxr> and you already missed a file in 10 ... - so ... 16:00 < mnemoc> .oO 16:02 < mnemoc> ../../src/lib/esmart_container/.libs/libesmart_container.so: undefined reference to `lt_dlerror' 16:03 < mnemoc> == 03/01/05 12:03:25 =[5]=> Finished building package libusb. 16:03 < mnemoc> :) 16:03 < mnemoc> who commits? 16:04 < mnemoc> Error logs from ref-2.1.0-beta4-x86-pentium4-generic-expert: 16:04 < mnemoc> [5] emulators/hercules [5] e17/esmart [5] e17/efsd 16:04 < mnemoc> 1450 builds total, 556 completed fine, 3 with errors. 16:06 < rxr> I ;-) 16:06 < rxr> mnemoc: drupal might fully replace the wiki, no ? 16:06 < mnemoc> ok :) 16:07 < mnemoc> i think so 16:07 < rxr> I think test site online this afternoon 16:07 < mnemoc> do you feel better with him now? 16:07 < rxr> svn up package/extra 16:08 < rxr> so your changes get merged before I move the package 16:08 < CIA-9> rene * r6921 /trunk/package/extra/libusb/libusb.desc: * updated libusb (0.1.9 -> 0.1.10a) 16:08 < mnemoc> ok 16:09 < mnemoc> Updated to revision 6921. 16:09 < mnemoc> how could you update and move on the same commit? 16:11 < rxr> I can - but I remember you get a conflict on your side then 16:13 < rxr> if a moved files was modified 16:14 < CIA-9> rene * r6922 /trunk/package/ (10 files in 10 dirs): * moved hal, libraw1394, libusb, glide and pcre out of extra 16:18 < CIA-9> rene * r6923 /trunk/package/ (8 files in 8 dirs): * moved scmxx, lcdproc, dvorakng and palcal out of extra 16:20 < CIA-9> rene * r6924 /trunk/package/extra/: * flushed empty exta repository 16:21 < mnemoc> rxr: i had an updated lcdproc :( 16:21 < rxr> .oO 16:21 < rxr> and now you have a conflict *g* ? 16:21 < mnemoc> yeah 16:21 < rxr> sorry - I wanted to see extra removed ... 16:21 < rxr> contrib should also go one day ... 16:21 < mnemoc> me too *g* 16:21 < rxr> contrib currently contains mostly toy stuff - maybe some will be deleted ? 16:22 < rxr> well - some stuff is quite useful and needed ... 16:22 < mnemoc> let see if they build :) 16:23 < CIA-9> rene * r6925 /trunk/package/ (4 files in 4 dirs): * moved jpilot stuff into network 16:23 < rxr> starting to snow more here ... 16:24 < CIA-9> rene * r6926 /trunk/package/ (contrib/upn/ scientific/upn/): * moved up into scientific 16:24 < mnemoc> just 29°C here 16:24 < mnemoc> .oO 16:24 < rxr> hm - mnemoc did you recently asked about xpp ? 16:24 < rxr> we have it in contrib .. 16:24 < mnemoc> i added it iirc 16:25 < mnemoc> r6408 | amery | 2005-02-12 23:15:06 -0300 (Sat, 12 Feb 2005) | 2 lines 16:25 < mnemoc> * added xpp (1.5) 16:25 < mnemoc> :) 16:25 < CIA-9> amery * r6927 /trunk/package/emulators/hercules/ (hercules.conf hercules.desc): * updated hercules (2004-11-16 -> 3.02) 16:25 < mnemoc> Error logs from ref-2.1.0-beta4-x86-pentium4-generic-expert: 16:25 < mnemoc> [5] e17/esmart [5] e17/efsd 16:25 < mnemoc> 1450 builds total, 563 completed fine, 2 with errors. 16:25 < mnemoc> do you want to fix those? 16:26 < CIA-9> rene * r6928 /trunk/package/ (contrib/xpp/ printing/xpp/): * moved xpp to printing 16:26 < mnemoc> oh 16:26 < mnemoc> printing 16:26 < mnemoc> i didn't saw that 16:26 < rxr> so - enough polishing for now 16:26 < CIA-9> rene * r6929 /trunk/package/ (contrib/tsclient/ network/tsclient/): * moved tsclient into network 16:27 * rxr warming pizza and back to cms 16:27 < mnemoc> enough conflicts for now :'( 16:28 < CIA-9> rene * r6930 /trunk/package/ (contrib/grace/ scientific/grace/): * moved grace into scientific 16:37 < jsaw> leaving... cu! 16:38 < mnemoc> cu jsaw 16:42 < CIA-9> amery * r6931 /trunk/package/base/runit/packages/openldap-openldap_slapd.tail: * added log for openldap/slapd on runit's tail 16:56 < CIA-9> amery * r6932 /trunk/package/develop/avrdude/avrdude.desc: * updated avrdude (4.3.0 -> 4.4.0) 16:59 < CIA-9> valentin * r6933 /trunk/package/games/ppracer/ (. ppracer.desc): * added planetpenguin racer (v.0.3.1) 17:07 -!- mipe [~mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 17:24 < rxr> rehi mipe 17:28 < CIA-9> amery * r6934 /trunk/package/graphic/ghostscript/ (ghostscript.desc gs-fix-gc.patch): * updated ghostscript (7.07.1 -> 8.15rc2) 17:28 < CIA-9> valentin * r6935 /trunk/package/games/ppracer/ppracer.desc: * fixed author tag for ppracer 17:36 < CIA-9> amery * r6936 /trunk/package/e17/imlib2/ (imlib2.conf imlib2.desc makefile.am.patch): * updated imlib2 (1.1.2 -> 1.2.0) 17:41 < CIA-9> rene * r6937 /trunk/scripts/Create-CopyPatch: * updated t2 url in the CopyPatch creator 17:43 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@xchangecenter.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:45 < CIA-9> amery * r6938 /trunk/package/e17/imlib2_loaders/imlib2_loaders.desc: * updated imlib2_loaders (1.1.2 -> 1.2.0) 17:52 -!- _Ragnar__ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has joined #t2 17:53 -!- _Ragnar_ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:07 < CIA-9> amery * r6939 /trunk/package/e17/esmart/hostfix.patch: * fixed esmart by injecting a missing -lltdl 18:53 < _Ragnar__> hi 18:53 < rxr> hi _Ragnar__ 18:54 < _Ragnar__> hey rene 18:54 -!- _Ragnar__ is now known as _Ragnar_ 20:05 < mipe> huoh,gcc error:xgcc installation failed: text file busy 20:10 < rxr> hm 20:26 -!- mipe [~mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["sleep"] 20:27 < mnemoc> xgcc is use while replacing it?? 20:31 < rxr> xgcc is used interlally by gcc bootsrapping the new compiler ... 20:31 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe I have dupal set up to serve t2's need 20:31 < rxr> maybe ... 20:31 < rxr> I try adding real content after evening dinner ... 20:32 < mnemoc> :) 20:48 < valentin> re 20:49 < valentin> mnemoc: i'm eating grapes from chile 20:53 < mnemoc> :) 20:53 < mnemoc> how are they? 20:54 < valentin> good 20:54 < valentin> tasty :) 20:55 < valentin> but quite expensive 20:55 < mnemoc> you knew there what europe did to chilean salmon last month? 20:56 < valentin> no ? import stop ? 20:57 < mnemoc> 30% to extra tax :( 20:57 < mnemoc> of* 20:58 < mnemoc> due to US request 20:58 < valentin> well - europe is a banana republique 20:59 < mnemoc> *g* 20:59 < valentin> why did the us request that ? 21:00 < mnemoc> US use to be first world producer of salmon, and the consider Chilean production too cheap to fair competition 21:00 < mnemoc> norway is screaming (becasue they invested here) but they (and we) are been ignored 21:01 < valentin> so much to 'liberal' us trade policy 21:01 < mnemoc> oh, sorry. 35% not 30 21:01 < _Ragnar_> there's nothing liberal in us trade policy that doesn't benefit us companies 21:03 < mnemoc> "This South American country has announced that it will appeal to the World Trade Organisation (WTO), while the EU insists that its measures are legally grounded." 21:03 < mnemoc> :( 21:04 < valentin> but where is the interesst of EU in helping us salmon farms ? 21:05 < mnemoc> polititians interests are never clear 21:06 < _Ragnar_> probably little, but US companies know better which palms to grease 21:06 < mnemoc> "The EU also established minimum prices of 2.7 euros (3.5 dollars) per gram of fresh fish and 2.59 euros (3.3 dollars) per kilo of frozen fish. " <--- this one is good 21:06 < _Ragnar_> usually they are pretty clear: a) more power or b) more money for themselves 21:06 < mnemoc> http://www.ipsnews.net/africa/interna.asp?idnews=27379 21:07 < valentin> 2.7 Eur per gram ? 21:08 < mnemoc> uhm 21:10 < mnemoc> i guess you won't eat imported fresh fish in a long time 21:11 < valentin> i rather think that is kg 21:11 < mnemoc> yes 21:12 < mnemoc> 0.11 between fresh and frozen 21:27 < CIA-9> amery * r6940 /trunk/package/e17/entrance/edjecc_is_not_cc.patch: * fixed entrance, don't use CC for edje_cc please. 21:29 < mnemoc> anyone knows an easy trick to tell configure.ac that he has to convert a Makefile.am into .in? 21:29 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.222.155.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 21:29 < sepp> hello 21:29 < rxr> hi sepp 21:30 < valentin> mnemoc: call automake or so ? 21:30 < mnemoc> it ignores it 21:31 < mnemoc> i guess i should tell configure.ac somehow that this .am file exist 21:31 < mnemoc> efsd 21:32 < mnemoc> damn e17... is that fancy crap alive? 21:32 < rxr> yes 21:32 < mnemoc> efsd haven't been really touch in three years 21:32 < mnemoc> touched* 21:33 < rxr> feature complete *g* 21:33 < sepp> i still have problems with an t2 build for x86-64 - chroot in stage 2 says "chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error" 21:34 < sepp> i can chroot into the build under debian x86-64 but not under t2 21:34 < rxr> i fixed this with someone here recently lokcally 21:34 < rxr> was it you ? 21:34 < rxr> hm - mipe not here ... 21:34 < sepp> yes under debian it worked 21:34 < sepp> but not under t2 21:34 < sepp> thats strange 21:35 < rxr> what t2 do you use ? 21:35 < rxr> a 32bit release ? 21:35 < sepp> beta 3 21:35 < rxr> binary release ? 21:35 < sepp> from the iso 21:35 < sepp> yes 21:35 < rxr> ah - that has a 32bit kernel 21:35 < sepp> yes 21:35 < rxr> you can not chroot into a 64bit there ... 21:35 < sepp> and how do i build it then? 21:36 < rxr> when you build the first stage you need to boot into it 21:36 < rxr> as usual with cross builds to incompatible architectures ... 21:37 < sepp> ok 21:37 < rxr> you could either fully built it under debian 21:37 < rxr> or boot into the new t2 and start a new, full build there ... 21:38 < sepp> know i understand it ;) 21:38 < sepp> now 21:38 < rxr> 64bit code can not be executed from withint a 32bit (linux) kernel 21:38 < rxr> or any other OS 21:38 < sepp> but the other way works? 21:39 < rxr> (only hen enabled - which it is by default) you can execute 32bit code from within a x86-64 kernel 21:40 < sepp> ok thanks 21:40 < rxr> no problem ;-) 21:43 < mnemoc> waiting mozilla friends makes me nervious 21:43 < mnemoc> (waiting their build) 21:53 < sepp> btw the ruby package should make an "make install-doc" 21:55 < rxr> done 21:55 < CIA-9> rene * r6941 /trunk/package/ruby/ruby/ruby.conf: * added install-doc to ruby package as proposed on IRC 21:56 < sepp> what means CIA-9? 21:56 < sepp> i mean the name 21:56 < rxr> it is a bot that announces open source commits ... 21:56 < rxr> the sam as the USA agency ... 21:57 < sepp> :) 21:57 < rxr> http://cia.navi.cx/ 22:00 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.28] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:03 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.50] has joined #t2 22:11 -!- daja77 [[ykeneYeaA@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #t2 22:12 < rxr> moin daja77 22:13 < daja77> moin rene 22:21 < mnemoc> daja77: does efsd build on rock? 22:21 < mnemoc> hi :p 22:21 < daja77> what? 22:21 < mnemoc> e17/efsd 22:23 < daja77> at least it is not in generic errlist 22:23 < mnemoc> is it 'X'? 22:24 < daja77> efsd.log exists 22:24 < daja77> there was no single error in e17 repo this time 22:24 < mnemoc> thanks.... i'll have to look into it then 22:25 < mnemoc> hook_add prepatch 3 "sed -i 's/; automake /; automake-1.8 /' autogen.sh" <--- doh 22:25 < mnemoc> that's cheating :'( 22:26 < daja77> hehe 22:26 < mnemoc> i have to read the autobook some day :\ 22:26 < sepp> rxr: if i take the stage 1 t2 and put it on an new partition is there anything i need to do before i can boot? 22:28 < sepp> the things stone does 22:28 < mnemoc> sepp: boot with init=/bin/sh because you wont have root password set :) 22:28 < sepp> ok 22:29 < mnemoc> daja77: automake-1.8: command not found :( 22:30 < daja77> don't look at me this way, i didn't do it! 22:31 < mnemoc> i'm just sharing my pain with you :p 22:32 < daja77> hehe you should, i could share the pain of packaging games ... 22:33 < daja77> s/shoudl/souldn't/ 22:33 < daja77> >_< 22:33 < mnemoc> :) 22:35 < mnemoc> daja77: that log you mencioned, is on your machine? can you mail it to me? _please_ ^^ 22:36 < mnemoc> mentioned* 22:36 < daja77> mnemoc@rock...? 22:37 < mnemoc> doesn't exist :\ 22:37 < mnemoc> amery@geeks.cl 22:37 < daja77> ah yes i remember 22:37 < daja77> ask clifford to get one 22:38 < mnemoc> i did 22:38 < daja77> i'll ask him when he is here 22:38 < mnemoc> but my mails were always redirected to /dev/null on his machine 22:38 < mnemoc> don't worry 22:39 < jsaw> re 22:39 < mnemoc> wb jsaw 22:39 < jsaw> hi mnemoc 22:39 < jsaw> hi daja77 22:39 < mnemoc> water again? 22:39 < jsaw> yep...and I'll use my chance that everybody is sleeping to take a shower in a few minutes :) 22:40 < mnemoc> hehe 22:43 < daja77> hm have I already mentioned that I hate python, and packages related to python ... 22:44 < mnemoc> me too! 22:44 < daja77> :) 22:44 < daja77> btw mail sent 22:45 < mnemoc> thanks 22:48 < CIA-9> amery * r6942 /trunk/package/network/gq/ (. gq.conf gq.desc): * added gq (1.0beta1) 22:51 < sepp> now i booted into the stage 1 x86-64 t2 - anything i need to do before i can run Build-Target? 22:51 < sepp> the scripts output things like "misc/output/parse-config: line 47: /dev/fd/62: No such file or dir" 22:53 < mnemoc> after initing with /bin/sh init with normal /sbin/init :) 22:54 < mnemoc> ln -s /proc/self/fd /dev/ is created during init 22:54 < sepp> or that all i have to do? 22:55 < mnemoc> did it boot with colors, all getties, etc? 22:55 < sepp> no 22:56 < sepp> no colors 22:56 < sepp> i am not sure let me check it 22:56 < sepp> if it booted with colors 22:57 < sepp> no colors 22:57 < sepp> hmm 23:01 < sepp> mnemoc: the 2nd boot should be with "init=/sbin/init" ? 23:11 < mnemoc> no, just 'press enter' :) 23:11 < sepp> do i need to do anything in the 1st boot? 23:11 < sepp> with init=/bin/sh 23:11 < mnemoc> a normal boot should pass thorow the init phase with lot of happy faces ':-)' and maybe some sad faces ':-(' 23:12 < mnemoc> mount /proc 23:12 < mnemoc> mount / -o remount,rw 23:12 < mnemoc> passwd 23:12 < mnemoc> and set your root password 23:12 < sepp> ok thanks 23:12 < mnemoc> mount / -o remount,ro 23:19 < jsaw> shower done, now charlotte's awake... cu l8r 23:19 < daja77> ^^ 23:39 < jsaw> now let's see how long she sleeps... 23:39 < jsaw> :) 23:41 < mnemoc> i bet from 1:15 :D 23:42 < jsaw> ts 23:42 < mnemoc> 0:45? 23:45 < jsaw> no idea... she's got sleep cycles from 1 to 4h... 23:46 < jsaw> I have not enough data yet to make prediction :D 23:46 < mnemoc> :) 23:58 < rxr> re --- Log closed Wed Mar 02 00:00:30 2005