T2 IRC Log: 2005-02-10

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--- Log opened Thu Feb 10 00:00:28 2005
00:03 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6172 /trunk/misc/archive/IsBuilt.sh: * optimized IsBuilt.sh helper
00:15 -!- madtux [~mike@65.182.14.165] has joined #t2
00:15 < madtux> re
00:15 < _Ragnar_> hi
00:17 < madtux> 1406 builds total, 0 completed fine, 0 with errors.
00:17 < madtux> == 16:42:25 =[5]=> Building kde/koffice [1.3.5 2.1.0-beta4].
00:19 < daja77> :D
00:20 < madtux> %)
00:32 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.8] has joined #t2
00:39 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.43] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:50 < mnemoc_> re
00:57 < madtux> ra
00:57 < mnemoc_> :)
00:58 < madtux> 1406 builds total, 760 completed fine, 25 with errors.
00:58 < mnemoc_> 25??
00:58 < madtux> generic
00:58 < mnemoc_> query me the list please
00:58 < mnemoc_> 1411 builds total, 647 completed fine, 10 with errors.
01:00 < madtux> 1411 ?!
01:00 < madtux> did u add new packages?
01:01 < mnemoc_> :p
01:01 < madtux> argg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:01 < madtux> did u get the query?
01:01 < madtux> :P
01:02 < mnemoc_> uhm, hercules built on yours
01:04 * daja77 points and laughs at madtux
01:05 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6173 /trunk/package/contrib/tsclient/tsclient.desc: * updated tsclient (0.116 -> 0.132)
01:05 < mnemoc_> :D
01:05 < madtux> daja77, u make no sence right now.. are u stoned?
01:06 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6174 /trunk/package/gnome2/at-spi/at-spi.desc: * updated at-spi (1.6.1 -> 1.6.2)
01:06 < daja77> no
01:06 < madtux> and yes hercules built on me
01:06 < daja77> but it might well be that it makes no sense
01:06 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6175 /trunk/package/gnome2/firestarter/firestarter.desc: * updated firestarter (1.0.0 -> 1.0.3)
01:07 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6176 /trunk/package/gnome2/gail/gail.desc: * updated gail (1.8.1 -> 1.8.2)
01:08 < madtux> mnemoc_, note that this is 6144
01:08 < mnemoc_> :)
01:09 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6178 /trunk/package/gnome2/glibmm/glibmm.desc: * updated glibmm (2.4.5 -> 2.4.7)
01:09 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6177 /trunk/package/gnome2/gftp/gftp.desc: * updated gftp (2.0.18rc1 -> 2.0.18)
01:10 * daja77 off to bed, talking nonsense while sleeping
01:10 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6180 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-keyring/gnome-keyring.desc: * updated gnome-keyring (0.4.0 -> 0.4.1)
01:11 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6182 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-speech/gnome-speech.desc: * updated gnome-speech (0.3.5 -> 0.3.6)
01:11 < madtux> UPDATE MANIAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
01:12 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6179 /trunk/package/gnome2/gmime/gmime.desc: * updated gmime (2.1.9 -> 2.1.11)
01:12 < jsaw> http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png
01:12 < jsaw> ...
01:12 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6181 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-mag/gnome-mag.desc: * updated gnome-mag (0.11.9 -> 0.11.14)
01:13 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6183 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnopernicus/gnopernicus.desc: * updated gnopernicus (0.9.17 -> 0.9.19)
01:13 < mnemoc_> gn8 daja77
01:14 < mnemoc_> hi jsaw
01:14 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6184 /trunk/package/gnome2/gal/gal.desc: * updated gal (2.2.3 -> 2.2.4)
01:15 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6185 /trunk/package/gnome2/gcalctool/gcalctool.desc: * updated gcalctool (4.4.20 -> 4.4.22)
01:16 < jsaw> mnemoc_: do I have a wrong http address, or is the fl_wrapper thing really still in submaster?
01:17 < mnemoc_> jsaw: yep, still un-applied
01:17 < mnemoc_> jsaw: but i got a vote :)
01:17 < jsaw> I remember well...
01:18 < jsaw> just wondering...
01:18 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6186 /trunk/package/gnome2/balsa/balsa.desc: * updated balsa (2.2.0 -> 2.2.6)
01:19 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6187 /trunk/package/gnome2/gossip/gossip.desc: * updated gossip (0.5 -> 0.8)
01:19 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6188 /trunk/package/gnome2/gpdf/gpdf.desc: * updated gpdf (2.8.1 -> 2.8.3)
01:20 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6189 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkmm/gtkmm.desc: * updated gtkmm (2.4.8 -> 2.4.11)
01:26 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6191 /trunk/package/gnome2/libbonoboui/libbonoboui.desc: * updated libbonoboui (2.8.0 -> 2.8.1)
01:26 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6190 /trunk/package/gnome2/libbonobo/libbonobo.desc: * updated libbonobo (2.8.0 -> 2.8.1)
01:26 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6193 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgnomeprint/libgnomeprint.desc: * updated libgnomeprint (2.8.1 -> 2.8.2)
01:27 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6192 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgnomecups/libgnomecups.desc: * updated libgnomecups (0.1.13 -> 0.1.14)
01:28 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6194 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgnomeprintui/libgnomeprintui.desc: * updated libgnomeprintui (2.8.1 -> 2.8.2)
01:29 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6195 /trunk/package/gnome2/libsoup/libsoup.desc: * updated libsoup (2.2.1 -> 2.2.2)
01:30 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6196 /trunk/package/gnome2/libxklavier/libxklavier.desc: * updated libxklavier (1.03 -> 1.14)
01:32 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6200 /trunk/package/gnome2/gal/gal.desc: * updated gal (2.2.4 -> 2.3.4)
01:32 < mnemoc_> 6200 good number to end the day
01:32 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6197 /trunk/package/gnome2/loudmouth/loudmouth.desc: * updated loudmouth (0.14.1 -> 0.17.2)
01:33 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6199 /trunk/package/gnome2/startup-notification/startup-notification.desc: * updated startup-notification (0.7 -> 0.8)
01:33 < mnemoc_> gn8 * :)
01:33 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6198 /trunk/package/gnome2/spheres-and-crystals/spheres-and-crystals.desc: * fixed spheres-and-crystals download location
01:34 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6202 /trunk/package/gnome2/libidl/libidl.desc: * updated libidl (0.8.4 -> 0.8.5)
01:34 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6201 /trunk/package/gnome2/orbit2/orbit2.desc: * updated orbit2 (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1)
03:40 < CIA-8> miguel * r6203 /trunk/package/selinux/checkpolicy/checkpolicy.desc: * Updated checkpolicy ( 1.18 > 1.20 )
03:41 < CIA-8> miguel * r6204 /trunk/package/selinux/libselinux/libselinux.desc: * Updated libselinux ( 1.18 > 1.20 )
03:42 < CIA-8> miguel * r6205 /trunk/package/selinux/polgen/polgen.desc: * Updated polgen ( 0.8 > 0.9 )
03:43 < CIA-8> miguel * r6206 /trunk/package/selinux/policy/policy.desc: * Updated policy ( 1.18 > 1.20 )
03:44 < CIA-8> miguel * r6207 /trunk/package/selinux/policycoreutils/policycoreutils.desc: * Updated policycoreutils ( 1.18 > 1.20 )
03:45 < CIA-8> miguel * r6208 /trunk/package/selinux/selinux-doc/selinux-doc.desc: * Updated selinux-doc ( 1.14 > 1.16 )
03:46 < CIA-8> miguel * r6210 /trunk/package/selinux/slat/slat.desc: * Updated slat ( 1.2.2 > 1.2.4 )
03:46 < CIA-8> miguel * r6209 /trunk/package/selinux/setools/setools.desc: * Updated setool ( 1.5 > 1.5.1 )
04:04 < _Ragnar_> == 02/09/05 17:56:22 =[1]=> Finished building package sysfiles.
04:04 < _Ragnar_> cannot set up thread-local storage: set_thread_area failed when setting up thread-local storage
04:05 < _Ragnar_> still happening :/
04:05 < CIA-8> miguel * r6211 /trunk/package/x86/syslinux/syslinux.desc: * Updated syslinux ( 3.06 > 3.07 )
04:06 < CIA-8> miguel * r6212 /trunk/target/router/download.txt: * Updated router target syslinux ( 3.06 > 3.07 )
04:07 < CIA-8> miguel * r6213 /trunk/target/bootdisk/download.txt: * Updated bootdisk/target syslinux ( 3.06 > 3.07 )
04:07 < CIA-8> miguel * r6214 /trunk/target/livecd/download.txt: * Updated livecd target syslinux ( 3.06 > 3.07 )
04:07 < mnemoc_> re
04:08 < mnemoc_> madtux: :)
04:09 < madtux> welcome back mnemoc_
04:10 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: what google says about? (says?)
04:10 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
04:10 < _Ragnar_> good idea
04:10 < madtux> mnemoc_, what was that smile for?
04:11 < _Ragnar_> duh
04:13 < _Ragnar_> probably related to glibcs NPTL option
04:13 < mnemoc_> madtux: your usual commit :)
04:13 < madtux> well its been quite a while since the last time i made any commit
04:14 < madtux> besides selinux and syslinux are sort of the normal stuff u could spect me to fix, update and so
04:14 < madtux> plus its not fair that you are taking most of the fun lately.. i want fun for myself too
04:16 < mnemoc_> "u could spect me to fix"? come on
04:17 < mnemoc_> don't you want to update the packages i listed on our wiki?
04:17 < mnemoc_> those were reserved just for you :)
04:17 < madtux> show me again
04:18 < mnemoc_> http://wiki.t2-project.org/index.cgi?21PendingUpdates
04:18 < mnemoc_> texinfo, dosfstools and util-linux
04:19 < madtux> ok.
04:19 < madtux> i will play a bit.
04:20 < mnemoc_> :)
04:30 < CIA-8> miguel * r6215 /trunk/package/x86/bin86/bin86.desc: * Updated bin86 ( 0.16.16 > 0.16.17 )
04:31 < CIA-8> miguel * r6216 /trunk/package/x86/memtest86/memtest86.desc: * Updated memtest86 ( 1.40 > 1.50 )
04:31 < CIA-8> miguel * r6217 /trunk/package/x86/nasm/nasm.desc: * Updated nasm ( 0.98.38 > 0.98.39 )
04:32 < mnemoc_> rxr: usr/bin/vi: elvis-tiny vim
04:32 < CIA-8> miguel * r6218 /trunk/package/x86/x86info/x86info.desc: * Updated x86info ( 1.12b > 1.13 )
04:33 < madtux> 1406 builds total, 859 completed fine, 42 with errors.
04:33 < madtux> weird stuff
04:33 < mnemoc_> madtux: sh misc/archive/Commit package/*/x86info will generate yout the commit message
04:34 < madtux> thank you. :)
04:34 < mnemoc_> you are welcome :)
04:35 < madtux> mnemoc_, btw forget about looking for updates on the arch specific repos or in the selinux repos.. i already took care of it for you
04:36 < mnemoc_> madtux: i know :)
04:36 < mnemoc_> those repos have a maintainer :p
04:36 < madtux> who is it?
04:36 < mnemoc_> miguel bolaños, from costa rica
04:36 < madtux> urrgs.
04:37 < mnemoc_> do you know him?
04:38 < madtux> yeah some lamer from .cr
04:38 < mnemoc_> the greatest tico hacker :)
04:38 < madtux> :P
04:39 < madtux> ok build aborted
04:40 < madtux> i will sync with your stuff now.
04:51 < mnemoc_> == 02/10/05 00:50:29 =[5]=> Finished building package evolution. :D
04:52 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6219 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution/gal-2.4.patch: * fixed evolution to build against gal-2.4
04:54 < mnemoc_> rxr: did is the only fix, the following are updates. tell me if i shall wait until you sync
04:55 < mnemoc_> rxr: sorry, that wasn't for you
04:55 < mnemoc_> madtux: did is the only fix, the following are updates. tell me if i shall wait until you sync
04:57 < madtux> update now
05:01 < mnemoc_> commit flood in 5
05:01 < mnemoc_> 4
05:01 < mnemoc_> 3
05:01 < mnemoc_> 2
05:01 < mnemoc_> 1
05:01 < mnemoc_> :)
05:02 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6220 /trunk/package/audio/cdrdao/ (cdrdao.desc gcc34.patch): * updated cdrdao (1.1.8 -> 1.1.9)
05:03 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6221 /trunk/package/editors/elvis-tiny/dont_install_as_vi.patch: * fixed elvis-tiny shares with real packages
05:03 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6222 /trunk/package/gnome2/devilspie/devilspie.desc: * updated devilspie (0.7 -> 0.8)
05:05 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6224 /trunk/package/gnome2/epiphany/epiphany.desc: * updated epiphany (1.4.5 -> 1.4.7)
05:05 < _Ragnar_> =)
05:05 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6223 /trunk/package/gnome2/enchant/enchant.desc: * updated enchant (1.1.3 -> 1.1.5)
05:06 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6226 /trunk/package/archiver/unrar/unrar.desc: * updated unrar (3.3.4 -> 3.4.3)
05:07 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6225 /trunk/package/gnome2/glabels/glabels.desc: * updated glabels (2.0.1 -> 2.0.2)
05:08 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6227 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnomeicu/gnomeicu.desc: * fixed gnomeicu download location
05:08 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6231 /trunk/package/gnome2/gthumb/gthumb.desc: * updated gthumb (2.6.1 -> 2.6.3)
05:09 < madtux> _Ragnar_, you are next :)
05:09 < _Ragnar_> ?
05:09 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6228 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-python/gnome-python.desc: * updated gnome-python (2.6.1 -> 2.6.2)
05:09 < _Ragnar_> the things that need fixing with uclibc seem to be not easy to fix
05:10 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: package?
05:10 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6229 /trunk/package/gnome2/gok/gok.desc: * updated gok (0.11.15 -> 0.11.17)
05:10 < _Ragnar_> qt
05:11 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6230 /trunk/package/gnome2/gstreamer/gstreamer.desc: * updated gstreamer (0.8.7 -> 0.8.9)
05:11 < _Ragnar_> and a lot of gnome
05:11 < madtux> gnome.
05:11 * madtux adding gnome check to tonights todo
05:11 < _Ragnar_> ;)
05:11 < mnemoc_> round finished
05:12 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6234 /trunk/package/gnome2/pan/pan.desc: * added CV-URL for pan
05:12 < madtux> :)
05:12 < mnemoc_> madtux: everything builds
05:12 < madtux> mnemoc_, fine.
05:12 < mnemoc_> madtux: runtime not warrantied :)
05:12 < madtux> grr..
05:12 < mnemoc_> 90 updates enqueued :\
05:12 < madtux> enqueued?
05:13 < mnemoc_> updated but not yet built
05:13 < madtux> so build ..
05:13 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6233 /trunk/package/gnome2/hotapplet/hotapplet.desc: * fixed hotapplet download location
05:13 < madtux> maybe after those u can sleep
05:13 < mnemoc_> machine is building
05:13 < madtux> ok good.
05:13 < mnemoc_> it doesn't stop :)
05:13 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6232 /trunk/package/gnome2/gworldclock/gworldclock.desc: * updated gworldclock (1.3 -> 1.4.0)
05:14 < mnemoc_> Error logs from ref-2.1.0-beta4-x86-generic-expert:
05:14 < mnemoc_> [5] base/linux26 [5] base/linux24
05:14 < mnemoc_> [5] printing/lprng [5] emulators/hercules
05:14 < mnemoc_> [5] network/nessus [5] e17/efsd
05:14 < mnemoc_> [5] develop/avrdude [5] e17/entrance
05:14 < mnemoc_> [5] www/mozilla [5] kde/kdebindings
05:14 < CIA-8> ragnar * r6235 /trunk/package/x11/fox/fox.desc: * Update to most recent devel version
05:14 < mnemoc_> 1411 builds total, 722 completed fine, 10 with errors.
05:14 < mnemoc_> :)
05:14 < madtux> ragnar... please not that we would rather rather have something specific
05:15 < mnemoc_> http://cia.navi.cx/ :p
05:15 < madtux> _Ragnar_, lets say "* updated foo-package ( old-ver > new-ver )
05:15 < madtux> mnemoc_, ?
05:15 < mnemoc_> madtux: * update_d_ $pkg ($old -> $new)
05:16 < madtux> yeah
05:16 < madtux> poser.
05:16 < mnemoc_> that's our standard :)
05:16 < _Ragnar_> poser.
05:16 < _Ragnar_> :D
05:16 < madtux> i like mine :)
05:16 < mnemoc_> always participles on first word :)
05:24 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: don't forget checksums when you add or update package please
05:24 < _Ragnar_> ouch
05:24 < _Ragnar_> see what do get when you rush me:p
05:24 < mnemoc_> :)
05:24 < _Ragnar_> how do you generate the cksum?
05:26 < mnemoc_> ./scripts/Create-CkSumPatch package
05:27 < _Ragnar_> and how do I put that patch into svn ?
05:27 < mnemoc_> ./scripts/Create-CkSumPatch package | patch -p0
05:27 < mnemoc_> and svn commit :)
05:28 < _Ragnar_> ^_^
05:28 < mnemoc_> we have scripts for everything :)
05:28 < mnemoc_> and we try to keep a common interface
05:29 < CIA-8> ragnar * r6236 /trunk/package/x11/fox/fox.desc: * forgot checksum, and version: (1.3.20 -> 1.3.26)
05:30 < mnemoc_> :)
05:30 < mnemoc_> thanks
05:30 < _Ragnar_> yw
05:30 * _Ragnar_ resumes his desktop build
05:35 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg foo -dry-run -newdelete
05:36 < _Ragnar_> why the -dry-run?
05:37 < mnemoc_> optional :)
05:37 < mnemoc_> sometimes -newdelete is too agresive
05:37 < _Ragnar_> ;)
05:38 < mnemoc_> and you -remove $pkg1 $pkg2 to remove selected packages
05:38 < _Ragnar_> lemme rephrase the question: why should I do the newdelete?
05:39 < mnemoc_> due to the updates i did :)
05:39 < madtux> :)
05:39 < madtux> what about me
05:39 < _Ragnar_> I just started a completely new build, since the glibc option prevented the last ones to go very far
05:40 < mnemoc_> :D
05:48 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.200.60.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
05:48 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | CIA, don't ever leave us again!
05:48 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Wed Jan 12 03:04:43 2005]
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05:48 [ CIA-8 ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc_] [ praenti] [ rxr_]
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05:50 < madtux> rxr_ :)
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07:22 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6237 /trunk/package/gnome2/gst-plugins/gst-plugins.desc: * updated gst-plugins (0.8.6 -> 0.8.7)
07:23 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6238 /trunk/package/gnome14/gtkmm12/gtkmm12.desc: * fixed gtkmm12 download location
07:23 < mnemoc_> gn8 madtux, _Ragnar_
07:23 < madtux> n8 mnemoc_
07:24 < mnemoc_> n8
07:40 < rxr_> moin
07:40 -!- You're now known as rxr
07:50 < madtux> good day rxr
07:57 < rxr> hi madtux !
07:58 < madtux> how are u today Ren ?
07:58 < rxr> oh - tired
07:58 < madtux> didn't u just woke up?
08:00 < rxr> basically - I already was at the bakery and got breakfast - so I'm already up an hour++
08:04 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6239 /trunk/package/gnome2/alleyoop/ (alleyoop.desc newer-binutils.patch): * updated alleyoop (0.8.2 -> 0.8.3)
08:05 < rxr> moin mnemoc_ !
08:05 < CIA-8> rene * r6240 /trunk/package/base/schedutils/ (. schedutils.cache schedutils.conf schedutils.desc): * added schedutils (1.4.0)
08:07 < madtux> so i decided i would join the update and bughunting party
08:08 < madtux> :)
08:08 < madtux> one week before estimated
08:08 < rxr> you are welcome ,-)
08:10 * rxr updating kde-3.4 branch ...
08:11 < rxr> we have 1416 packages ?!?!
08:11 < rxr> oh my godness ...
08:12 < madtux> ah yes..
08:12 < madtux> and growing..
08:19 < rxr> yeah
08:19 < madtux> i feel happy about it
08:19 < madtux> we must keep growing
08:19 < rxr> sure
08:19 < madtux> grow in options, possibilities, alternatives
08:20 < madtux> this will make us different from the rest
08:20 < rxr> it just means I need to shrink the desktop package set significantly ...
08:20 < rxr> it is far too large right now
08:20 < rxr> too long to build and too much to install - to many CDs ...
08:20 < madtux> yeah i know what u mean
08:20 < rxr> well - gentoo and debian have more packages ...
08:21 < madtux> i will try to write down one of this deays some ideas i have as alternative solutions
08:21 < madtux> just need to work them out a bit more in my head first
08:24 < rxr> I run my Psion Revo PDA since yesterday morning - and the battery (only two internal NimH AAA cells) are at 35% charge now ...
08:35 < madtux> those psion's batteries are actually what made psion's so popular
08:48 < rxr> mnemoc_: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 050209
09:05 < rxr> jsaw: http://svn.exactcode.de/hotplug++/
09:05 < rxr> you have write rights
09:05 < rxr> (and I too)
09:06 < madtux> und ich?
09:06 < rxr> if you want to contribute you too ;-(
09:06 < rxr> ,-) even
09:06 < rxr> sorry
09:06 < madtux> yes
09:06 < madtux> i do
09:08 < madtux> ok i'm off we'll talk tomorrow
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09:11 < rxr> and here goes a linux tree:
09:11 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/linux24-psionw/
09:13 < rxr> checking out the linux24-psionw locally over svn://:
09:13 < rxr> 21765 root 15 0 11728 8700 4704 S 50.8 3.4 0:30.92 svn
09:13 < rxr> 21767 http 20 0 18480 12m 4284 R 31.9 4.9 0:22.63 svnserve
09:15 < rxr> real 3m5.255s
09:15 < rxr> user 0m27.264s
09:15 < rxr> sys 0m38.102s
09:16 < rxr> # time svn up
09:17 < rxr> real 0m18.974s
09:17 < rxr> user 0m0.992s
09:17 < rxr> sys 0m0.788s
09:25 < CIA-8> rene * r6241 /branches/kde-3.4/package/kde/ (22 files in 22 dirs): (log message trimmed)
09:25 < CIA-8> * updated kdegames (3.3.91 -> 3.3.92)
09:25 < CIA-8> * updated kdebindings (3.3.91 -> 3.3.92)
09:25 < CIA-8> * updated kde-i18n-es (3.3.91 -> 3.3.92)
09:25 < CIA-8> * updated kde-i18n-it (3.3.91 -> 3.3.92)
09:25 < CIA-8> * updated kdeaddons (3.3.91 -> 3.3.92)
09:25 < CIA-8> * updated kde-i18n-de (3.3.91 -> 3.3.92)
10:43 < rxr> mnemoc_: weee - thanks!
10:43 < rxr> mnemoc_: your strace update seems to have fixed it for sparc !!!
10:43 < rxr> == 02/10/05 10:06:39 =[9]=> Finished building package strace.
10:45 < rxr> although it does not work 100% perfect ...
10:45 < rxr> Process 13572 attached - interrupt to quit--- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) ---syscall: unknown syscall trap 81c3e008 000000000012a660Process 13572 detached
10:53 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2
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11:45 < rxr> unbelievable that I experience the day where an Microsoft applicaton is more standard conforming that another commercial one
11:45 < rxr> in this case batch scanning from withint Microsoft Office for Mac does work - where Photoshop is just too dump ...
11:45 < rxr> well - although Word crashes after the batch scan - though ...
11:46 < rxr> Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
11:46 < rxr> Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000
11:46 < rxr> Thread 0 Crashed:
11:46 < rxr> 0 Camera & Scanner Plug-in 0x05c9edc8 0x5c89000 + 0x15dc8
11:46 < rxr> 1 Camera & Scanner Plug-in 0x05ca2ea0 0x5c89000 + 0x19ea0
11:46 < rxr> 2 Camera & Scanner Plug-in 0x05ca25fc 0x5c89000 + 0x195fc
11:46 < rxr> 3 Camera & Scanner Plug-in 0x05ca0e78 0x5c89000 + 0x17e78
11:46 < rxr> 4 Microsoft Word 0x02755e40 0x2008000 + 0x74de40
11:46 < rxr> ...
12:16 < rxr> the new kde beta builds far more smoothly - in fact it builds completely as far as I can see
12:17 < rxr> I do not know if it causes regresisons with non-core kde packages - but do we want to pull it into trunk?
12:17 * rxr shortly away ...
12:40 < jsaw_> re
12:40 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw
12:41 < jsaw> X11 6.8.2 ... have fun rxr ;)
12:44 < rxr> re
12:44 < jsaw> hi rxr
12:44 < rxr> moin jsaw
12:45 < jsaw> rxr: new X server sources... hehe
12:45 < rxr> yeah - pull it in some minutes
12:46 < jsaw> rxr: thanks for the repo
12:46 < rxr> np
12:51 < jsaw> http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/xorg/2004-November/004358.html
12:51 < rxr> I know ...
12:51 < jsaw> nice i'd say
12:51 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0502/36211.html
12:53 < rxr> ,-)
12:53 < jsaw> :)
12:53 < jsaw> damn, you're all over the place ...
12:54 < rxr> hm - heise tells me we should update samba ...
12:54 < rxr> who does it ?
12:54 < jsaw> and mailman...
12:54 < rxr> we have no mailman, have we?
12:54 < rxr> oh - no
12:54 < jsaw> no... :D
12:55 < rxr> we are at samba-3.0.11
12:55 < rxr> great
12:55 < rxr> mnemoc | 2005-02-05 00:46:06 +0100 (Sat, 05 Feb 2005)
12:55 < jsaw> yep
12:56 < jsaw> cia.navi.cx is amazing today
12:56 < rxr> hm ?
12:56 < jsaw> t2/mnemoc
12:56 < rxr> hehe
13:01 < CIA-8> rene * r6242 /trunk/package/graphic/inkscape/inkscape.desc: * updated inkscape (0.40-20050131 -> 0.41)
13:03 < rxr> heise:
13:03 < rxr> Hinzugekommen sind Video-Treiber für ATIs R100-, Radeon-, Rage128-Karten und Intels i810-Grafikchips.
13:03 < rxr> ?!?!?
13:03 < rxr> they are present there for quite some time already ...
13:04 < rxr> Der Quellcode der neuen Version scheint zur Stunde allerdings noch auf keinem der Mirror-Server angekommen zu se
13:04 < rxr> ^- wow
13:04 < rxr> and it is not even reelased on the x list ...
13:04 < rxr> what do those heise poeple think ...
13:05 < jsaw> It's on x.org
13:06 < rxr> I can not conect ...
13:06 < rxr> ftp overloaded ...
13:06 < jsaw> hehe
13:07 < jsaw> work with http
13:07 < jsaw> works
13:08 < rxr> hm - there are only the one file releases ?
13:08 < jsaw> yep
13:08 < jsaw> or a compressed patch (590k)
13:13 < rxr> ok - I wait until it is released properly ...
13:13 * rxr hating news sites posting stuff before it is really released ...
13:32 < CIA-8> rene * r6243 /trunk/package/x11/xcompmgr/xcompmgr.desc: * updated xcompmgr (2004-10-30 -> 1.1.2)
14:58 < mnemoc_> moin!
15:09 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6244 /trunk/package/develop/calltree/calltree.desc: * updated calltree (2.2 -> 2.3)
15:10 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6245 /trunk/package/base/dvd+rwtools/dvd+rwtools.desc: * updated dvd+rwtools (5.17.4.8.6 -> 5.21.4.10.8)
15:11 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r6246 /trunk/package/database/tdb/tdb.desc: * fixed tdb download location
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15:14 < madtux> hello
15:20 < madtux> rxr: PING
15:21 < mnemoc_> hi madtux!
15:22 < madtux> hi mnemoc_
16:00 < rxr> re
16:00 < rxr> yeah
16:00 < rxr> hi
16:00 < rxr> hi madtux
16:00 < madtux> hello rxr
16:01 < mnemoc_> wb rxr
16:01 < madtux> rene can we PLEASE change my svn name to madtux?... miguel is also icaza's nick
16:01 < mnemoc_> rxr: kdebingings acts weird on PARALLEL here, same there?
16:01 < rxr> oehm
16:02 < rxr> would need to take a look later
16:02 < rxr> in the 3.4 branch they build today
16:02 < mnemoc_> is 3.4 released?
16:02 < mnemoc_> will we drop 3.3?
16:02 < mnemoc_> will we wait for them to beta4?
16:02 < rxr> the next will be -rc ..
16:02 < rxr> I consider pulling it into trunk
16:03 < madtux> yupi!!!
16:03 < mnemoc_> additive or replacement?
16:03 < rxr> replacement of course ...
16:04 < madtux> talking about replacements.. rxr?
16:07 < mnemoc_> ?
16:07 < madtux> s/miguel/madtux/ for cia stuff..
16:07 < mnemoc_> :)
16:08 < madtux> i don't want to be some sort of izcaza's shadow
16:09 < rxr> ouhm - I would like to not change the svn account
16:09 < mnemoc_> why?
16:10 < mnemoc_> do you dislike "madtux" or due to technical reasons?
16:11 < madtux> ilike madtux... thats what i want to use
16:12 < madtux> rxr: so why wouldn't u like to change it?
16:20 < rxr> miguel is more professional ...
16:20 < rxr> that is why we have rene and valentin in there, too ...
16:21 < rxr> along martin and lars ...
16:21 < madtux> ok what about mbolanos?
16:21 < madtux> or miguelb
16:21 < rxr> I would rather like to convert the few nick names used ...
16:21 < rxr> that would be fine, too *g*
16:21 < rxr> or miguel^icaza or so ?
16:21 < madtux> i just DON'T want to share my nick
16:21 < rxr> *g*
16:21 < madtux> arrg
16:21 < rxr> s/^/!/ ?
16:22 < rxr> or - what do you want then?
16:23 * mnemoc_ hold his nick tight
16:24 < rxr> mnemoc_: when I'm at it I rename yours to alejandro ?
16:24 < madtux> don-alejandro
16:24 < madtux> rxr: plase miguelb
16:24 < rxr> ok ok ...
16:25 < mnemoc_> rxr: if i shall change my name, do it amery.
16:25 < mnemoc_> .oO( i hate to loose my history )o
16:26 < mnemoc_> there is only one mnemoc in the world, but many alejandro mery-s. even one on chile with a sex shop :|
16:27 < madtux> mnemoc_: no one mentioned anything about changing ur name
16:27 < rxr> (I could some day reimport the repository and sed the names ...)
16:29 < mnemoc_> rxr: i have no problems with keeping both on the repo
16:32 < rxr> madtux: mnemoc: both done
16:33 < mnemoc_> :'(
16:33 * mnemoc_ feels sad about
16:34 < daja77> ?
16:34 < mnemoc_> mnemoc has died
16:34 < madtux> mnemoc_: am update flooder like u will make history very soonanyways
16:34 < madtux> rxr: thanks mate, i really appreciate it
16:57 < mnemoc_> usr/share/texmf-var/ls-R: latex2html tetex
17:00 < CIA-8> amery * r6247 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/system.init:
17:00 < CIA-8> * added hooks to etc/rc.d/init.d/system
17:00 < CIA-8> * INIT_DOES_REBOOTHALT=1 if init will reboot/halt after system stop ends
17:00 < CIA-8> * INIT_WAITS=1 if init waits "system stop" before rebooting or halting.
17:00 < mnemoc_> who is that?
17:01 < mnemoc_> sex shop guy?
17:05 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc
17:07 < rxr> mnemoc: ..oO
17:08 < mnemoc> google for my name
17:09 < mnemoc> one of the first hits is a sex shop of a chilean guy with my name
17:09 < madtux> rxr: mnemoc owns a virtual sexshop
17:09 < madtux> mnemoc: how did u find that stuff mnemoc ?
17:09 < rxr> yeah - I now we know where is money is comming from - sex sells ...
17:09 < mnemoc> madtux: you did
17:10 < mnemoc> rxr: *G*
17:10 < rxr> maybe we need some cute and sexy t2 logo ...
17:10 < rxr> mnemoc: anything ?
17:10 < mnemoc> rxr: not related
17:10 < madtux> rxr: yes we should have some sexy PR stuff
17:10 < madtux> mnemoc: i did? oh my..
17:11 < madtux> so u are going to blame me for finding www.linuxvirgin.info too?
17:12 < mnemoc> yes! :)
17:12 < mnemoc> you are mr. pr0n here ;)
17:12 < madtux> omg..
17:12 < madtux> i am NOT
17:13 < mnemoc> i can't be because i don't have money, and your 'business' give you lots. so you are on pr0n or drugs :p
17:14 < madtux> i'm poor mnemoc
17:14 < mnemoc> what brand is your car?
17:14 < madtux> arrgg..
17:15 < mnemoc> lada? ;)
17:15 < madtux> one of those with 4 wheels and chairs..
17:15 < mnemoc> cool, i have one of those too
17:15 < madtux> nice :)
17:15 < madtux> ok so yes i just bough a car..
17:15 < madtux> but that was just very hard work
17:16 < madtux> and nothing to do with pr0n
17:16 < madtux> it is YOUR name tht is linked to sex shops not mine
17:16 < madtux> :)
17:16 < mnemoc> i'm sure i saw you on a video once :)
17:16 < madtux> 0_o
17:17 < madtux> so u have a lada?
17:17 < mnemoc> daewoo
17:17 < madtux> oh okis.. family car? :)
17:17 < mnemoc> but it's cheaper than your laptop :p
17:17 < mnemoc> yeah
17:17 < madtux> lol..
17:17 < madtux> nice quote.
17:17 < madtux> it can't be that old..
17:17 < madtux> broken even
17:18 < mnemoc> :)
17:20 < mnemoc> 1998 btw
17:20 < madtux> poser..
17:20 < mnemoc> :p
17:20 < madtux> it can't be cheaper than my laptop
17:20 < madtux> its new enough..
17:21 < mnemoc> less than US$3k
17:21 < madtux> would love to see pics of it
17:21 < madtux> :)
17:21 < mnemoc> i dont' have camara
17:22 < madtux> have u made any improvements on the car urself?
17:22 < madtux> geek improvements i mean
17:22 < madtux> rxr: u got a car?
17:23 < mnemoc> no, i don't even wash it :p
17:23 < madtux> oh my..
17:23 < madtux> i was in love with my previous little car.. but i had to change it because it was only for 2 passengers :(
17:24 < mnemoc> a married guy can't have only a 2 passengers car
17:25 < madtux> i guess i just take very good car of eveything i have because i have worked so hard to have it
17:25 < madtux> mnemoc: i know.. my wife made me change it for that.. plus the fact that she hates me speeding :(
17:26 < mnemoc> hard work when you are single let you have a cool car
17:27 < mnemoc> hard work when you have children let you have cable tv :\
17:27 < madtux> sniff
17:28 < rxr> madtux: I have neither a car nor a driving license ...
17:29 < madtux> rxr: scary
17:29 < madtux> maddog is got an interesting car..
17:29 < mnemoc> who needs driving license? :p
17:29 < madtux> 70something beatle... fully customized
17:29 < madtux> he even has a dvd on it
17:30 < mnemoc> oh
17:30 < mnemoc> one day i'll be as maddog
17:30 < mnemoc> i'll have a big and gray beard
17:31 < madtux> and people will see u in the street and say "hohoho"
17:31 < mnemoc> :D
17:33 < rxr> madtux: why scary
17:33 < madtux> if you knew the stories i have from my trips with maddog :)
17:33 < CIA-8> amery * r6248 /trunk/package/base/runit/rockify.patch:
17:33 < CIA-8> * improved runit to use INIT_DOES_REBOOTHALT
17:33 < CIA-8> * fixed runit to reboot on ctrl-alt-del
17:34 < madtux> rxr: i just had nothing else to say.. i'm kinda sleepy today
17:35 < madtux> i drove around for 6 months beofre i had my license
17:40 < CIA-8> amery * r6249 /trunk/package/base/sudo/sudo.desc: * updated sudo (1.6.8p3 -> 1.6.8p7)
17:40 < madtux> mnemoc: lets make a deal..
17:40 < madtux> we want to be able to see new pics of u
17:41 < madtux> i have my old digital cammera laying around.. its broken.. but if u want i can give it to you
17:41 < madtux> so u can fix it
17:41 < madtux> and keep it for yourself
17:41 < mnemoc> define 'fix it'
17:41 < madtux> there is something going on with the flash
17:42 < madtux> since u kinda paly with electronic u should be able to fix it
17:42 < mnemoc> ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/pub/gnu/glibc/glibc-2.3.4.tar.bz2
17:42 < mnemoc> rxr: ^^^
17:44 < madtux> pub/pub .. ?
17:44 < madtux> omg
17:47 < madtux> u should be more than fine with ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/glibc/glibc-2.3.4.tar.bz2
17:48 < mnemoc> :)
17:50 < madtux> .oO( en el bosque.. de la china.. la chinita se perdio.. lalala )
17:50 < mnemoc> o_O
17:51 < madtux> good i finally go ur attention
17:51 < madtux> what are u missing to update?\
17:51 < madtux> can i help?
17:52 < mnemoc> a glibc update needs testing
17:52 < mnemoc> but i'm already downloading it
17:52 < madtux> fine
17:53 < madtux> damn i'mso tired right now
17:54 < mnemoc> how is your dell? idleing?
17:54 < madtux> my dell boxes are not infront of my atm
17:54 < madtux> me
17:55 < mnemoc> you don't need them in front of you to useradd :p
17:59 < madtux> but u need public ip or anything that will routo you to ssh :)
18:00 < madtux> route
18:00 < mnemoc> useradd on a barrier machine and useradd on dells :p
18:00 < mnemoc> pubkey only ofcourse
18:01 < madtux> mnemoc: there is no way that i can provide remote access to this boxes to someone on the net
18:02 < madtux> it has nothing to do with trust.. my home is behindmy isp's nat
18:03 < CIA-8> amery * r6250 /trunk/package/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * updated iproute2 (2.6.10-ss050207 -> 2.6.10-ss050209)
18:03 < mnemoc> madtux: you can stablish a vpn from home to office :)
18:04 < mnemoc> madtux: don't worry, i'm just teasing you
18:05 < madtux> mnemoc: be patient boy..
18:05 < madtux> :)
18:05 < madtux> u will work with me someday (i hope)
18:06 < mnemoc> i was just thinking in testing builds faster :p
18:06 < madtux> unless u decide to join m$ .net research group or so
18:06 < mnemoc> nope
18:06 < madtux> after this saturday i will be available for testing builds and all
18:06 < madtux> i mean for at least 8 - 10 hours a day
18:07 < mnemoc> oh
18:10 < CIA-8> amery * r6251 /trunk/package/develop/wvstreams/wvstreams.desc: * added CV-URL to wvstreams
18:11 < CIA-8> amery * r6252 /trunk/package/emulators/simh/simh.desc: * updated simh (3.2-0 -> 33-1)
18:13 < mnemoc> rxr: have you experienced the problem i told you with distcc? (/root/.distcc/* and fl_wrapper)
18:14 < CIA-8> amery * r6253 /trunk/package/emulators/vice/vice.desc: * updated vice (1.13 -> 1.16)
18:14 < CIA-8> amery * r6254 /trunk/package/gnome2/ggv/ggv.desc: * updated ggv (2.8.1 -> 2.8.3)
18:14 < CIA-8> amery * r6255 /trunk/package/gnome2/glade/glade.desc: * updated glade (2.6.7 -> 2.6.8)
18:16 < rxr> mnemoc: have not tried yet
18:17 < rxr> but my vanished files outside basedir are ignored change it should not matter anymore
18:23 < CIA-8> amery * r6256 /trunk/package/security/nmap/nmap.desc: * updated nmap (3.50 -> 3.81)
19:10 < rxr> valentin's playing with my embedded T2 on thy PDA ;-)
19:11 < madtux> :)
19:18 < _Ragnar_> hi
19:18 < _Ragnar_> =)
19:19 < rxr> hi _Ragnar_
19:22 < _Ragnar_> hi rxr :)
19:53 < madtux> good day _Ragnar_
19:58 < mnemoc> re
19:58 < mnemoc> hi _Ragnar_
20:00 < mnemoc> http://dmx.sourceforge.net/
20:00 < _Ragnar_> hey :)
20:01 < mnemoc> is your uclibc target buildable after all my flooding?
20:02 < _Ragnar_> shouldn't we be worrying about generic/glibc first? *wonders*
20:02 < mnemoc> native p4 builds perfect here :)
20:02 * madtux clap clap clap
20:03 < _Ragnar_> it does?
20:05 < mnemoc> i have some tiny problems on stage-5 but before that everything builds perfect on generic
20:06 < madtux> you broke the damn thing didn't you?
20:07 < mnemoc> madtux: i have not tested against uclibc, but glibc and dietlibc still as stable as before
20:08 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: when you say "about generic/glibc" you mean that local_storage oddity you were/are getting?
20:10 < _Ragnar_> no, I'm talking about 2-binutils.err: /usr/bin/msgfmt: error while loading shared libraries: libgettextlib-0.11.5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
20:22 < rxr> re
20:22 < rxr> mnemoc: dmx is already in xorg since 6.8.0 ...
20:30 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: o_O
20:31 < mnemoc> rxr: i have to build a new 'desktop' to my laptop :)
20:33 < rxr> so - me work arounding one more photoshop issue in the driver - and then a new release
20:33 < rxr> finally
20:34 < rxr> after too much debugging, testing, tinkering and - well ranting about commerical software just doing random junk instead of following some standard
20:34 < mnemoc> madtux: gettext has not been updated in a long time, and libgettextlib is not on my 2-binutils.log .... this is weird
20:34 < mnemoc> s/madtux/_Ragnar_/
20:35 < madtux> mmm...
20:35 < madtux> let me play for a moment with it
20:35 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe built internally - maybe PARALLEL ?
20:37 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: can you see if [F] NOPARALLEL fixes binutils there?
20:37 < mnemoc> madtux: go go go :)
20:38 < madtux> ok just let me put up a new firewall here.. lets say gimme 15 mins to get on it
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20:38 < CIA-8> amery * r6257 /trunk/package/base/runit/parse-config: * fixed runit to install init-s on $root/$sysconfdir (DESTDIR change)
20:39 * mnemoc starting a new fresh build
20:39 -!- _Ragnar__ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has joined #t2
20:39 -!- _Ragnar_ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)]
20:40 < mnemoc> _Ragnar__: i just started a new build on another machine to see if i get your problem
20:40 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: can you see if [F] NOPARALLEL fixes binutils there?
20:42 < _Ragnar__> okay I'll try
20:54 < CIA-8> amery * r6258 /trunk/package/gnome2/pybliographer/pybliographer.desc: * updated pybliographer (1.2.5 -> 1.2.6)
20:54 < _Ragnar__> mnemoc: still not working
20:54 -!- _Ragnar__ is now known as _Ragnar_
20:55 < CIA-8> amery * r6259 /trunk/package/gnome2/sound-juicer/sound-juicer.desc: * updated is (0.5.15 -> 0.6.0)
20:55 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: and do you have libgettextlib-0.11.5.so in your sandbox?
20:56 < mnemoc> i have usr/lib/libgettextlib-0.14.1.so here
20:57 < mnemoc> why your msgfmt wants such an old library
20:57 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg foo -remove gettext; ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg foo
21:00 < _Ragnar_> running...
21:08 < mnemoc> and?
21:09 < mnemoc> wtf?! /usr/bin/msgfmt: error while loading shared libraries: libgettextlib-0.12.1.so:
21:09 < mnemoc> random version numbers?
21:11 < _Ragnar_> still the same error for me
21:11 < mnemoc> rxr: here? 1-msgfmt is being linked against host libraries
21:11 < mnemoc> rxr: i guess this is due to DESTDIR changes
21:12 < mnemoc> 1-gettext/msgfmt*
21:13 < mnemoc> it passed on my current massive-updates-build machine because i have the same versions than inside chroot
21:15 < rxr> yeah i'm around
21:16 < mnemoc> ideas?
21:16 < rxr> wwould need to take a look myself
21:20 < CIA-8> amery * r6260 /trunk/package/emulators/wine/wine.desc: * updated wine (20041201 -> 20050111)
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21:22 < madtux> re
21:22 < mnemoc> re madtux
21:23 < madtux> :)
21:23 < madtux> ok so firewall/router up and running..
21:24 < madtux> getting personal t2 tree for local testing
21:25 < mnemoc> i got _Ragnar_'s problem here too
21:25 < madtux> mnemoc: i will try to replicate
21:25 < mnemoc> it's because 1-gettext is been linked against host libraries
21:25 < madtux> i did not had such problem last night
21:26 < mnemoc> what version of /usr/lib/libgettextlib do you have locally?
21:27 < madtux> /usr/lib/libgettextlib-0.14.1.so
21:27 < mnemoc> no veras el error entonces
21:27 < mnemoc> oops
21:27 < mnemoc> you wont see the error then
21:27 < madtux> pq?
21:27 < mnemoc> because you have the same libraries on host and on sandbox
21:28 < madtux> what do U have?
21:28 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_ has gettext-0.11.5 on host, and i tested with gettext-0.12.1 on host
21:28 < mnemoc> stage2 has 0.14.1
21:28 < madtux> mm..
21:28 < madtux> interesting
21:28 < mnemoc> that's why we didn't see this problem on updated machines
21:29 < madtux> scheisse
21:30 < mnemoc> i fear cross compiling is broken
21:44 < mnemoc> rxr: i'll commit glibc-2.3.4 (release edition) if you aprove it
21:46 < CIA-8> amery * r6261 /trunk/package/gnome2/gaim/gaim.desc: * updated gaim (1.1.0 -> 1.1.2)
21:47 < rxr> mnemoc: oh - sure do - if it builds and all patches apply ...
21:47 < rxr> leave the cvs url commented out - so we know it instantly ...
21:47 < mnemoc> rxr: ok
21:50 < CIA-8> amery * r6262 /trunk/package/base/ (glibc/glibc.desc glibc32/glibc32.desc):
21:50 < CIA-8> * updated glibc (2.3.4-2004-12-24 -> 2.3.4)
21:50 < CIA-8> * updated glibc32 (2.3.4-2004-12-24 -> 2.3.4)
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22:29 < rxr> mnemoc: how are your money earning server installs doing ?
22:30 < mnemoc> bad
22:31 < rxr> ouhm - why
22:31 < rxr> ?
22:33 < mnemoc> i'm not good doing monkey jumps with one hand :\
22:33 < mnemoc> and my build power is low :(
22:34 < mnemoc> i need to add some packages to get this thing working too
22:36 * rxr now running Microsoft Office Word in gdb ...
22:36 < rxr> mnemoc: oh
22:38 < mnemoc> why??
22:38 < rxr> the oh or gdb ?
22:38 < mnemoc> gdb
22:39 < rxr> because it crashes randomly with my scanner driver ...
22:43 < mnemoc> oh
22:43 < rxr> you name it
22:44 < rxr> hm - the usb i/o does not like to be run from within the debugger ...
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22:55 < Postal> hey all
22:57 < Postal> rxr you around?
22:58 < mnemoc> hi Postal
22:59 < Postal> mnemoc, do you know if rxr fixed the glibc32 problem?
22:59 < Postal> i suppsose that I am about to find out but...
23:00 < Postal> thats a no i guess
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23:01 < Postal> mnemoc, how do I change the build level, or remove a package from the build, cause glibc32 can be built after the fact... and I would like to get this build finished...
23:03 < mnemoc> the build is controlled by config/$config/packages
23:03 < mnemoc> to ability to skip errors is configured on Config
23:04 < mnemoc> what do you want, to skip glibc32 or to not build it (ever)
23:04 < Postal> skip for now, an build it after I have build everything else, i will make it a stage 9 build package for now...
23:08 < rxr> ouhm:
23:08 < rxr> Program received signal EXC_BAD_ACCESS, Could not access memory.
23:08 < rxr> 0x069addc8 in unknown_text ()
23:08 < rxr> (gdb)
23:08 < Postal> rxr, that sounds not so good
23:09 < rxr> yeah - it is M$ Office on Mac OSX ...
23:10 < Postal> rxr, I dont suppose you have any ideas on the glibc 32 problem...? I looked around and it seems that debian has already patched, but its a .deb so...
23:10 < rxr> Postal: I had no time for glibc32 so far ..
23:10 < rxr> this scanner driver does render me too busy ...
23:11 < rxr> debugging M$ stuff under OSX is not as much fun as T2 ...
23:11 < Postal> ic, when do you think you will get to it, cause i may just move it to build level 9... and when you fix the problem i will build it..
23:11 < rxr> yes - modify the glibc23.desc locally
23:11 < rxr> to remove all numbers except the 0 from the [P] tag *g*
23:12 < rxr> hi Postal btw ;-)
23:12 < Postal> hey rxr
23:12 < Postal> btw, how do I remove all those numbers?
23:13 < rxr> with your favourite editor ... ;-)
23:14 < Postal> ok
23:16 < Postal> ok, now all being well the build will just "work"
23:17 < mnemoc> we hope so
23:21 < Postal> well I am timing it also, so if it just goes then I will know how long it took
23:22 < rxr> when you do a full desktop or generic build you will get more or less package errors here and there ...
23:23 < CIA-8> amery * r6263 /trunk/package/base/runit/packages/ (3 files): * added runit/nullmailer init script
23:26 < Postal> rxr, this is a full generic build
23:26 < CIA-8> amery * r6264 /trunk/package/gnome2/gkrellm-plugins/gkrellm-plugins.desc:
23:26 < CIA-8> * added gkrellmms, gkrellm-watchmail to gkrellm-plugins
23:26 < CIA-8> * set gkrellm-plugins athors
23:26 < rxr> then you will get some errors (of some toy packages) in stage 5
23:26 < rxr> especially on x86-64
23:26 < rxr> but do anyways
23:26 < rxr> I just wanted to note it along the lines ...
23:28 < _Ragnar_> after stage 3- ncurses:
23:28 < _Ragnar_> cd //lib && (ln -s -f libncurses.so.5.4 libncurses.so.5; ln -s -f libncurses.so.5 libncurses.so; )
23:28 < _Ragnar_> /bin/sh: symbol lookup error: /bin/sh: undefined symbol: __guard
23:28 < mnemoc> uhm
23:35 < CIA-8> amery * r6265 /trunk/package/develop/pwlib/pwlib.desc: * fixed pwlib download location
23:37 < mnemoc> rxr: when do you think you may have time for $libgettex bug?
23:41 < _Ragnar_> building bash with dynamic linking in stage 1 is buggy in itself imho
23:42 < rxr> mnemoc: tomorrow ?
23:42 < rxr> _Ragnar_: no, why ?
23:42 < _Ragnar_> see the lines above
23:43 < rxr> do you think it should not be built dynamic or that there is a bug in the bash package ?
23:43 < mnemoc> rxr: ok :)
23:43 < _Ragnar_> I think bash should be built static in stage 1 (and only there) to prevent such errors from breaking the build system
23:44 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: is 1-bash properly cross-linked there is no problem to it being dynamic
23:44 < _Ragnar_> but it seems it isn't
23:45 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: the problems with ncurses may appear on runtime too, so if we detect and hack^Wfix on stage3-5 much better
23:45 < _Ragnar_> see, bash and ncurses each build fine in 1
23:45 < _Ragnar_> but then ncurses is rebuilt on stage 3 (aparently with different options/different compiler) and that breaks
23:46 < mnemoc> afaik it breaks because our install_wrapper is written in bash
23:46 < mnemoc> so ncurses can't copy the new after deleting the old
23:46 < _Ragnar_> no, look at the error
23:46 < _Ragnar_> it's complaining about a missing stackguard symbol
23:46 < mnemoc> i was talking about the old error
23:47 < mnemoc> not __guard thing
23:47 < _Ragnar_> oh okay
23:47 < mnemoc> i guess __guard gets there due to visibility problems
23:48 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
23:49 < mnemoc> undefined symbol: __guard ... the symbol was there when crossbuilding, but disappeared on native build
23:49 < mnemoc> the same case than before
23:49 < rxr> _Ragnar_: it should and must work
23:49 < rxr> at least we catch errors early on this way ...
23:49 < rxr> instead of hiding them
23:51 < _Ragnar_> yeah that's right
23:52 < _Ragnar_> hmmm lemme insert my visibility patch again and see if that helps
23:53 < mnemoc> .oO( i thought that "yeah that's right" was to rene )o
23:54 < _Ragnar_> no it was about trying to catch errors early
23:54 < mnemoc> :)
23:55 * _Ragnar_ looks slightly confused ;)
23:56 < mnemoc> not just you
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