T2 IRC Log: 2005-01-23
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--- Log opened Sun Jan 23 00:00:13 2005
00:25 < rxr> silo does not work reliable when compiled for 64bit .. :-(
00:25 < rxr> just debugge it one hour .
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00:33 < rxr> so - with some hacking the U5 for the uni is up ...
00:39 < CIA-12> rene * r5777 /trunk/package/graphic/xsane/xsane.desc: * updated xsane (0.96 -> 0.97)
00:42 < rxr> so far all on the sparc64 runs smooth - except silo and ping (...)
01:06 < rxr> ok - I can add ps to the list of programs broken on sparc64 ... ;-)
02:01 < CIA-12> rene * r5778 /trunk/package/gnome2/gconf/gconf.desc: * marked gconf NOPARALLEL
02:10 < rxr> http://zapek.com/software/ambient/
02:35 < CIA-12> rene * r5779 /trunk/package/editors/xemacs/xemacs.desc: * marked xemacs NOPARALLEL
02:44 < rxr> hm
02:44 < rxr> on sparc64 svn crashes with illegal instruction when parsing a http:// url ...
02:44 < rxr> svn:// however works ... ?!?
02:48 < rxr> just for reference, in: ne_url_parse () from /opt/.../libsvn_ra_dav-1.so.0
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03:01 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | CIA, don't ever leave us again!
03:01 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Wed Jan 12 03:04:43 2005]
03:01 [Users #t2]
03:01 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ mnemoc] [ Postal ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
03:01 [ CIA-12 ] [ jsaw ] [ nzg ] [ praenti] [ rxr_] [ valentin ]
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03:06 < rxr_> http://dot.kde.org/1106424624/
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03:32 < rxr> http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-9-21216-1
03:38 < rxr> [5] network/xmule [5] e17/efsd
03:38 < rxr> [5] e17/entrance
03:38 < rxr> 1393 builds total, 1058 completed fine, 3 with errors.
04:04 < rxr> 1393 builds total, 1069 completed fine, 3 with errors.
04:31 < rxr> 1393 builds total, 1072 completed fine, 3 with errors.
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05:01 < rxr> so - U30 fully departed and cleaned ...
05:02 < rxr> it had no big dust clouds - only very fine dust ...
05:02 < rxr> cpu fan was mostly dust free ...
05:22 < rxr> ok - the box still beeps and the discs spin up ...
05:28 < CIA-12> rene * r5780 / (9 files in 9 dirs): * marked nine more packages NOPARALLEL
05:38 < rxr> 1393 builds total, 1085 completed fine, 3 with errors.
05:38 < CIA-12> rene * r5781 /trunk/package/x11/wxwidgets/wxwidgets.conf:
05:38 < CIA-12> * enabled compat22 for wxwidgets - helps audacity and xmule sightly
05:38 < CIA-12> and does not break anything
05:51 < rxr> oh -0.3°C outside ...
06:01 < rxr> so let's see how long the cleaned U30 stays up ...
06:31 < _Ragnar_> hi
06:33 < rxr> I wonder if my ISP mangles bt traffic these days ...
06:33 < rxr> hi rxr
06:33 < rxr> _Ragnar_ even
06:35 < rxr> cool
06:35 < rxr> I found out how to get this sparc assembly assembled ..
06:35 < rxr> no idea if the result is still valid though ...
06:37 < _Ragnar_> hi rxr ;)
06:42 < rxr> wow - some assembly files even include the .register annotation I just add in some #ifdef Slowlaris define ...
06:42 < rxr> at least the annotation I come up with should work then ... ;-)
06:44 < _Ragnar_> ;)
06:45 < rxr> .oO(when fixing sparc assembly in X.org is more interesting and time consuming than university exercises ...)
06:46 < _Ragnar_> almost everything is more interesting then university exercises;)
06:47 < rxr> well - the ones we get here at my university (of applied science) are especially dumb ...
06:47 < rxr> but I guess that is what the "applied science" is about ...
06:54 < _Ragnar_> *g*
06:58 < rxr> so - I should have tweaked all sparc assembler occuranced in x.org ...
07:05 < _Ragnar_> and it works?
07:06 < rxr> still building ...
07:06 < rxr> I manually entered the parts where I know it failed before and just built that parts for fixing ...
07:06 < rxr> the rest is till building ...
07:07 < rxr> after all it is just a TI UltraSparc II @ 296Mhz ...
07:08 < rxr> but I'm very curious what happens when I start that X ...
07:10 < CIA-12> rene * r5782 /trunk/package/security/libgcrypt/sparc64.patch: * fixed libgcrypt sparc assembly for sparc64
07:11 < _Ragnar_> *g*
07:13 < rxr> this is soo cool - I invested so many free "minutes" since I got my first SPARC 2+ years ago to get full 64bit user-space running - seems last week was the week when all the puzzle pieces fit together
07:16 < _Ragnar_> =)
07:17 < rxr> and the 2nd cool thing is that the logic board of the "defect" 500Mhz iMac I bought around Xmas from one in the neighborhood of my family for 20EUR (;-) is ok - it work on a ordenary ATX power supply ...
07:17 < rxr> so I'll have my living room media center *g* T2/PowerPC powered ...
07:20 < rxr> (and I'm lucky the U30 seems to overlived the cleaning procedure this night ...)
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07:21 < rxr> hi mnemoc_ ?
07:24 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
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07:25 < rxr> ,-)
07:29 < rxr> cool - 2.6.11-rc2 also finished ...
07:31 < _Ragnar_> *grr* @ code duplication in pine
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07:34 < _Ragnar_> at least mutt compiles now ;)
07:36 < rxr> my assembly hacked gnupg crashes ...
07:39 < _Ragnar_> :/
07:40 < rxr> I try to disable the asm stuff and use generic C for now ...
07:40 < _Ragnar_> good choice
07:40 < rxr> for sparc64 freebsd and openbsd or so are also marked as "asm does not work ..."
07:40 < _Ragnar_> ;)
07:41 * rxr hoping the sunffb X driver does not bus error ...
07:41 < rxr> gfx is a bit more important than a slightly faster gnupg ...
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07:41 < _Ragnar_> yupp
07:43 < mipe> how do i remove/change --build and --host lines from package build,without them been added automatically
07:44 < rxr> well - ...
07:44 < _Ragnar_> pine duplicates the same ugly code 3 times ... ;p figures
07:44 < rxr> var_remove_regex confopt " " "--build=.*"
07:44 < rxr> or so should do ...
07:44 < rxr> mipe: but are ust the config.guess entries for x86-64 missing ?
07:45 < rxr> then s.th. like this might be better:
07:45 < rxr> [ "$arch" = "x86" -a "$ROCKCFG_X86_BITS" = "64" ] &&
07:45 < rxr> preconf="cp -v $root/usr/share/automake-1.9/config.{sub,guess} ."
07:45 < rxr> e.g.: package/gnome14/gtk+12/gtk+12.conf
07:47 < mipe> rxr:trying to get grub build,manually with just configure and prefix it works but using it like Build-Target adds confopts it doesnt build. trying to figure out what conf opt breaks it
07:51 < rxr> ah - ok - grub might be special indeed ...
07:52 < rxr> then hack the grub.conf to strip the host and build away ...
07:52 < mipe> yeah "trying" to do ,but var_remove_regex doesnt remove anything
07:53 < rxr> var_remove_regex confopt " " "--host.*"
07:53 < rxr> var_remove_regex confopt " " "--target.*"
07:53 < rxr> var_remove_regex confopt " " "--build.*"
07:53 < rxr> does this do s.th. ?
07:53 < mipe> testing
07:54 < rxr> hm - generic C coes bus error gnupg on sparc64, too ...
07:54 < rxr> too bad ...
07:56 < mipe> yeah,that removed them,but doesnt build. have to check this little later. *breakfast*
07:56 < rxr> yeah - should breakfast soon, too ,-)
07:58 < rxr> :q!
08:03 < CIA-12> rene * r5783 /trunk/package/security/ (gnupg/sparc64.patch libgcrypt/sparc64.patch):
08:03 < CIA-12> * fixed gnupg sparc assembly to build for sparc64 (Selfcheck does
08:03 < CIA-12> fail though - but it does with generic C code, too. So the problem
08:03 < CIA-12> is most probably somewhere else ...)
08:06 < rxr> looks like some more NOPARALLEL flags are needed:
08:06 < rxr> 1393 builds total, 1102 completed fine, 33 with errors.
08:07 < _Ragnar_> sure that's just noparallel?
08:07 < rxr> some most probably ...
08:10 < rxr> hm - with 2.6.10 the mach64 framebuffer is broken ...
08:11 < mipe> in debug.sh: gcc
08:11 < mipe> gcc: : No such file or directory
08:11 < mipe> gcc: no input files
08:12 < mipe> this isnt normal?
08:12 < rxr> huh ?
08:12 < rxr> no
08:17 < _Ragnar_> yay, pine done
08:21 < rxr> ,)
08:21 < mipe> hmm,what variables hold the build dir?
08:21 < rxr> what build dir do you mean?
08:22 < rxr> the src.... ?
08:22 < mipe> yeah. grub source dir
08:22 < mipe> where it runs ./configure
08:23 < rxr> $builddir
08:23 < rxr> is the src.* base ...
08:23 < rxr> the archive dir is it no variable afaics ...
08:23 < rxr> for what do you need this ?
08:24 < mipe> i was in debug.sh, and removed config.guess and did CFLAGS="" ./configure i686-pc-linux-gnu, it passed the c compiler checking,but stopped on binutils checking
08:27 < rxr> hm
08:27 < rxr> interesting - all but xf86cfg does link ...?!?!
08:27 < rxr> why the h*ll dos xf86cfg yield unresolved symbols in the loader ...
08:27 < rxr> hm - anyway
08:28 * rxr hoping the rest runs ...
08:28 < rxr> mipe: for what do you need the builddir now ?
08:32 < mipe> actually i dont need it
08:34 < rxr> ... ;-)
08:34 < rxr> the extracted directory is not stored in some var
08:35 < rxr> one cen preset one into srcdir from inside the .conf
08:35 < rxr> but normally it contains "auto", which then triggers to autodetect it during extracting the archive ...
08:40 * rxr away
08:40 < rxr> cu
08:47 < mipe> now i see the problems,cant find -lgcc
08:47 < mipe> oh cu
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09:12 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
09:13 < _Ragnar_> openldap has a hook_add premake 3 'eval $MAKE depend'
09:13 < _Ragnar_> this breaks the uclibc build
09:14 < _Ragnar_> how do I kill this line?
09:14 < _Ragnar_> from package/base/uclibc that is
10:40 < rxr> re
10:40 < rxr> hm
10:41 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I never needed to revmore a hook
10:41 < rxr> I would nee to read the hook code how this would be done ...
10:41 < rxr> why does depend break the uclibc build?
10:44 < _Ragnar_> depend seems to as a directory to the dependency list
10:46 < _Ragnar_> btw, mnemoc_ told me that if packages/base/uclibc/patches/$pkg.conf is present, packages/*/$pkg/$pkg.conf isn't executed
10:46 < _Ragnar_> that's not the case
10:47 < _Ragnar_> but that's okay
10:53 < rxr> _Ragnar_: whether this patches/$pkg.conf is executeed depends on how uclibc implements this
10:53 < rxr> e.g. this is nto a standard feature of the build system - but a custom feature of the uclibc package ...
10:54 < rxr> (I have not yet looked into it ...)
10:54 < _Ragnar_> yeah
10:54 * rxr asleep ...
10:54 < _Ragnar_> oh okay
10:54 < rxr> cu all later
10:55 < _Ragnar_> cu :) sleep well
10:59 < mipe> damm grub doesnt build
11:03 < _Ragnar_> might need a complete cross build environment for that
11:04 < mipe> it fails on binutils,needs working absolute objcopy
11:05 < _Ragnar_> absolute?
11:05 < mipe> absolute address for objcopy
11:07 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
11:07 < _Ragnar_> if I ever get that uclibc system running, a64 will be my next target
11:15 < _Ragnar_> `goodnight folks
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14:42 < rxr> yeah:
14:42 < rxr> got a 64bit qt on the sparc64:
14:42 < rxr> == 01/23/05 13:31:11 =[5]=> Finished building package qt.
15:13 < mipe> rxr:i just dont get grub to build on x86_64,error i get is:
15:14 < mipe> Error: Incorrect register `%rax' used with `l' suffix
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15:20 < rxr> you said it built manually ?
15:24 < mipe> yeah but no in the chroot env,i compiled it in my gentoo box
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16:46 < rxr> nicely snowing over here ...
16:49 < rxr> hm - at least 2.6.10 and 2.6.11-rc2 do not have a functional ati mach64 framebuffer on SPARC ....
16:49 < rxr> 2.6.1 and I think 2.6.3 did work ...
16:50 < rxr> at least it did not freeze again since my cleaning procedure
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17:29 < rxr> btw an iBook likely survives a "tea shower"
17:30 < rxr> at least the one of my girlfriend did - it did not power up for 24 hours - but then, today, it worked just fine again ;-)
17:52 < rxr> http://dot.kde.org/1106477233/
18:41 < rxr> http://primates.ximian.com/~jimmac/blog/Artwork/Inkscape
18:44 < CIA-9> rene * r5784 /trunk/package/gnome2/bluefish/bluefish.desc: * updated bluefish (0.13 -> 1.0)
18:49 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/t2/2005-01-23/
19:21 < CIA-9> rene * r5785 /trunk/package/scientific/qmatplot/qmatplot.conf: * fixed qmatplot (does not like --enable-final)
19:23 < CIA-9> rene * r5786 / (41 files in 41 dirs):
19:23 < CIA-9> * added some more NOPARALLEL flags based on some quick greps in my
19:23 < CIA-9> reference build error logs ...
20:14 < _Ragnar_> hi
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21:22 < rxr> uhm
21:22 < rxr> xemacs ispell is nto utf8 safe ...
21:23 < _Ragnar_> who uses xemacs?:)
21:24 < rxr> i
21:25 < rxr> maybe I should switch to kde's kate - at least it is capable to spellcheck utf8 documents ...
21:27 < _Ragnar_> ;)
21:32 < rxr> .oO(and the latest xft stuff in xemacs is quite imperfect, too)
21:44 < praenti> hi. anybody here with a running dvb card like an haupauge nexus?
21:46 < rxr> yes
21:47 < rxr> but I'm quite out of time right now ...
21:47 < praenti> rxr: ok. than i don't want to disturb you with my problem :-)
21:48 < rxr> well - write it and I might have some seconds to answer ..
21:48 < rxr> but no long howtos today ... :-(
21:49 < praenti> rxr: and thats the point... i need a bigger one :-(
21:49 < rxr> howto ?
21:49 < praenti> perhaps i will send you a mail if i don't get it running. sp you can answer it when you have enough time
21:50 < praenti> perhaps i have a bigger problem with my card...
21:51 < praenti> but thx for your offer :-)
21:51 < praenti> the problem is that when i load dvb-ttpci i have no /dev/dvb/* devices...
21:51 < praenti> firmware is in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware and the driver loads
21:53 < rxr> which kernel ?
21:53 < praenti> 2.6.9
21:55 < rxr> do you get s.th. in the dmesg / var/log/messages about devices recognized and/or firmware loading success or failure ?
21:56 < praenti> interesting:
21:56 < praenti> saa7146: unregister extension 'dvb'.
21:56 < praenti> saa7146: register extension 'dvb'.
21:56 < praenti> ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:0a.0[A] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
21:56 < praenti> saa7146: saa7146_init_one(): request_irq() failed.
21:56 < praenti> looks like the frontend module has a problem
21:57 < praenti> to be exact it is a technotrend premium rev. 1.5
21:58 < praenti> so i don't if the frontend module has s.th. to do with that
21:58 < praenti> wait a minute. perhaps i have found the problem...
22:00 < rxr> what is in the log before?
22:00 < rxr> maybe a simple IRQ sharing conflict ?
22:02 < praenti> that would be strange cause the card is the only on irq 10
22:03 < praenti> i suspected the hotplug, but that also not the problem...
22:03 < praenti> but i don't want to use too much of your time
22:04 < rxr> request_irq failed is quite suspicious ..
22:04 < rxr> IRQ 10 is normally the GFX card in x86 systems ...
22:04 < rxr> try moving it to another PCI slot
22:04 < praenti> ok. thx
22:22 < praenti> rxr: irq 7 works :-)
22:22 < praenti> thx
22:26 < rxr> no problem
23:25 * rxr crawling into bed ...
23:25 < rxr> n8 all
23:26 < _Ragnar_> gn8
23:30 < rxr> ;-) you too
23:32 < rxr> cool
23:32 < rxr> just tested some sparc64 X stuff over ssh -X ...
23:32 < rxr> (no local X yet)
23:32 < rxr> xedit, xclock and even qtconfig work ...
23:33 < rxr> gtk-demo, too
23:37 < _Ragnar_> neat
23:38 < rxr> xemacs, emacs (sort off)
23:44 < Postal> hey all
23:47 < Postal> !> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../ ..
23:47 < Postal> !> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/3.4.3/crtbeginS.o( ..
23:47 < Postal> !> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/3.4.3/crtbeginS.o( ..
23:47 < Postal> !> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
23:48 < Postal> !> make: *** [libdb_cxx-4.2.la] Error 1
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00:25 < rxr> silo does not work reliable when compiled for 64bit .. :-(
00:25 < rxr> just debugge it one hour .
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00:33 < rxr> so - with some hacking the U5 for the uni is up ...
00:39 < CIA-12> rene * r5777 /trunk/package/graphic/xsane/xsane.desc: * updated xsane (0.96 -> 0.97)
00:42 < rxr> so far all on the sparc64 runs smooth - except silo and ping (...)
01:06 < rxr> ok - I can add ps to the list of programs broken on sparc64 ... ;-)
02:01 < CIA-12> rene * r5778 /trunk/package/gnome2/gconf/gconf.desc: * marked gconf NOPARALLEL
02:10 < rxr> http://zapek.com/software/ambient/
02:35 < CIA-12> rene * r5779 /trunk/package/editors/xemacs/xemacs.desc: * marked xemacs NOPARALLEL
02:44 < rxr> hm
02:44 < rxr> on sparc64 svn crashes with illegal instruction when parsing a http:// url ...
02:44 < rxr> svn:// however works ... ?!?
02:48 < rxr> just for reference, in: ne_url_parse () from /opt/.../libsvn_ra_dav-1.so.0
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03:01 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Wed Jan 12 03:04:43 2005]
03:01 [Users #t2]
03:01 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ mnemoc] [ Postal ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
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03:06 < rxr_> http://dot.kde.org/1106424624/
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03:32 < rxr> http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-9-21216-1
03:38 < rxr> [5] network/xmule [5] e17/efsd
03:38 < rxr> [5] e17/entrance
03:38 < rxr> 1393 builds total, 1058 completed fine, 3 with errors.
04:04 < rxr> 1393 builds total, 1069 completed fine, 3 with errors.
04:31 < rxr> 1393 builds total, 1072 completed fine, 3 with errors.
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05:01 < rxr> so - U30 fully departed and cleaned ...
05:02 < rxr> it had no big dust clouds - only very fine dust ...
05:02 < rxr> cpu fan was mostly dust free ...
05:22 < rxr> ok - the box still beeps and the discs spin up ...
05:28 < CIA-12> rene * r5780 / (9 files in 9 dirs): * marked nine more packages NOPARALLEL
05:38 < rxr> 1393 builds total, 1085 completed fine, 3 with errors.
05:38 < CIA-12> rene * r5781 /trunk/package/x11/wxwidgets/wxwidgets.conf:
05:38 < CIA-12> * enabled compat22 for wxwidgets - helps audacity and xmule sightly
05:38 < CIA-12> and does not break anything
05:51 < rxr> oh -0.3°C outside ...
06:01 < rxr> so let's see how long the cleaned U30 stays up ...
06:31 < _Ragnar_> hi
06:33 < rxr> I wonder if my ISP mangles bt traffic these days ...
06:33 < rxr> hi rxr
06:33 < rxr> _Ragnar_ even
06:35 < rxr> cool
06:35 < rxr> I found out how to get this sparc assembly assembled ..
06:35 < rxr> no idea if the result is still valid though ...
06:37 < _Ragnar_> hi rxr ;)
06:42 < rxr> wow - some assembly files even include the .register annotation I just add in some #ifdef Slowlaris define ...
06:42 < rxr> at least the annotation I come up with should work then ... ;-)
06:44 < _Ragnar_> ;)
06:45 < rxr> .oO(when fixing sparc assembly in X.org is more interesting and time consuming than university exercises ...)
06:46 < _Ragnar_> almost everything is more interesting then university exercises;)
06:47 < rxr> well - the ones we get here at my university (of applied science) are especially dumb ...
06:47 < rxr> but I guess that is what the "applied science" is about ...
06:54 < _Ragnar_> *g*
06:58 < rxr> so - I should have tweaked all sparc assembler occuranced in x.org ...
07:05 < _Ragnar_> and it works?
07:06 < rxr> still building ...
07:06 < rxr> I manually entered the parts where I know it failed before and just built that parts for fixing ...
07:06 < rxr> the rest is till building ...
07:07 < rxr> after all it is just a TI UltraSparc II @ 296Mhz ...
07:08 < rxr> but I'm very curious what happens when I start that X ...
07:10 < CIA-12> rene * r5782 /trunk/package/security/libgcrypt/sparc64.patch: * fixed libgcrypt sparc assembly for sparc64
07:11 < _Ragnar_> *g*
07:13 < rxr> this is soo cool - I invested so many free "minutes" since I got my first SPARC 2+ years ago to get full 64bit user-space running - seems last week was the week when all the puzzle pieces fit together
07:16 < _Ragnar_> =)
07:17 < rxr> and the 2nd cool thing is that the logic board of the "defect" 500Mhz iMac I bought around Xmas from one in the neighborhood of my family for 20EUR (;-) is ok - it work on a ordenary ATX power supply ...
07:17 < rxr> so I'll have my living room media center *g* T2/PowerPC powered ...
07:20 < rxr> (and I'm lucky the U30 seems to overlived the cleaning procedure this night ...)
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07:21 < rxr> hi mnemoc_ ?
07:24 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
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07:25 < rxr> ,-)
07:29 < rxr> cool - 2.6.11-rc2 also finished ...
07:31 < _Ragnar_> *grr* @ code duplication in pine
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07:34 < _Ragnar_> at least mutt compiles now ;)
07:36 < rxr> my assembly hacked gnupg crashes ...
07:39 < _Ragnar_> :/
07:40 < rxr> I try to disable the asm stuff and use generic C for now ...
07:40 < _Ragnar_> good choice
07:40 < rxr> for sparc64 freebsd and openbsd or so are also marked as "asm does not work ..."
07:40 < _Ragnar_> ;)
07:41 * rxr hoping the sunffb X driver does not bus error ...
07:41 < rxr> gfx is a bit more important than a slightly faster gnupg ...
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07:41 < _Ragnar_> yupp
07:43 < mipe> how do i remove/change --build and --host lines from package build,without them been added automatically
07:44 < rxr> well - ...
07:44 < _Ragnar_> pine duplicates the same ugly code 3 times ... ;p figures
07:44 < rxr> var_remove_regex confopt " " "--build=.*"
07:44 < rxr> or so should do ...
07:44 < rxr> mipe: but are ust the config.guess entries for x86-64 missing ?
07:45 < rxr> then s.th. like this might be better:
07:45 < rxr> [ "$arch" = "x86" -a "$ROCKCFG_X86_BITS" = "64" ] &&
07:45 < rxr> preconf="cp -v $root/usr/share/automake-1.9/config.{sub,guess} ."
07:45 < rxr> e.g.: package/gnome14/gtk+12/gtk+12.conf
07:47 < mipe> rxr:trying to get grub build,manually with just configure and prefix it works but using it like Build-Target adds confopts it doesnt build. trying to figure out what conf opt breaks it
07:51 < rxr> ah - ok - grub might be special indeed ...
07:52 < rxr> then hack the grub.conf to strip the host and build away ...
07:52 < mipe> yeah "trying" to do ,but var_remove_regex doesnt remove anything
07:53 < rxr> var_remove_regex confopt " " "--host.*"
07:53 < rxr> var_remove_regex confopt " " "--target.*"
07:53 < rxr> var_remove_regex confopt " " "--build.*"
07:53 < rxr> does this do s.th. ?
07:53 < mipe> testing
07:54 < rxr> hm - generic C coes bus error gnupg on sparc64, too ...
07:54 < rxr> too bad ...
07:56 < mipe> yeah,that removed them,but doesnt build. have to check this little later. *breakfast*
07:56 < rxr> yeah - should breakfast soon, too ,-)
07:58 < rxr> :q!
08:03 < CIA-12> rene * r5783 /trunk/package/security/ (gnupg/sparc64.patch libgcrypt/sparc64.patch):
08:03 < CIA-12> * fixed gnupg sparc assembly to build for sparc64 (Selfcheck does
08:03 < CIA-12> fail though - but it does with generic C code, too. So the problem
08:03 < CIA-12> is most probably somewhere else ...)
08:06 < rxr> looks like some more NOPARALLEL flags are needed:
08:06 < rxr> 1393 builds total, 1102 completed fine, 33 with errors.
08:07 < _Ragnar_> sure that's just noparallel?
08:07 < rxr> some most probably ...
08:10 < rxr> hm - with 2.6.10 the mach64 framebuffer is broken ...
08:11 < mipe> in debug.sh: gcc
08:11 < mipe> gcc: : No such file or directory
08:11 < mipe> gcc: no input files
08:12 < mipe> this isnt normal?
08:12 < rxr> huh ?
08:12 < rxr> no
08:17 < _Ragnar_> yay, pine done
08:21 < rxr> ,)
08:21 < mipe> hmm,what variables hold the build dir?
08:21 < rxr> what build dir do you mean?
08:22 < rxr> the src.... ?
08:22 < mipe> yeah. grub source dir
08:22 < mipe> where it runs ./configure
08:23 < rxr> $builddir
08:23 < rxr> is the src.* base ...
08:23 < rxr> the archive dir is it no variable afaics ...
08:23 < rxr> for what do you need this ?
08:24 < mipe> i was in debug.sh, and removed config.guess and did CFLAGS="" ./configure i686-pc-linux-gnu, it passed the c compiler checking,but stopped on binutils checking
08:27 < rxr> hm
08:27 < rxr> interesting - all but xf86cfg does link ...?!?!
08:27 < rxr> why the h*ll dos xf86cfg yield unresolved symbols in the loader ...
08:27 < rxr> hm - anyway
08:28 * rxr hoping the rest runs ...
08:28 < rxr> mipe: for what do you need the builddir now ?
08:32 < mipe> actually i dont need it
08:34 < rxr> ... ;-)
08:34 < rxr> the extracted directory is not stored in some var
08:35 < rxr> one cen preset one into srcdir from inside the .conf
08:35 < rxr> but normally it contains "auto", which then triggers to autodetect it during extracting the archive ...
08:40 * rxr away
08:40 < rxr> cu
08:47 < mipe> now i see the problems,cant find -lgcc
08:47 < mipe> oh cu
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09:12 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
09:13 < _Ragnar_> openldap has a hook_add premake 3 'eval $MAKE depend'
09:13 < _Ragnar_> this breaks the uclibc build
09:14 < _Ragnar_> how do I kill this line?
09:14 < _Ragnar_> from package/base/uclibc that is
10:40 < rxr> re
10:40 < rxr> hm
10:41 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I never needed to revmore a hook
10:41 < rxr> I would nee to read the hook code how this would be done ...
10:41 < rxr> why does depend break the uclibc build?
10:44 < _Ragnar_> depend seems to as a directory to the dependency list
10:46 < _Ragnar_> btw, mnemoc_ told me that if packages/base/uclibc/patches/$pkg.conf is present, packages/*/$pkg/$pkg.conf isn't executed
10:46 < _Ragnar_> that's not the case
10:47 < _Ragnar_> but that's okay
10:53 < rxr> _Ragnar_: whether this patches/$pkg.conf is executeed depends on how uclibc implements this
10:53 < rxr> e.g. this is nto a standard feature of the build system - but a custom feature of the uclibc package ...
10:54 < rxr> (I have not yet looked into it ...)
10:54 < _Ragnar_> yeah
10:54 * rxr asleep ...
10:54 < _Ragnar_> oh okay
10:54 < rxr> cu all later
10:55 < _Ragnar_> cu :) sleep well
10:59 < mipe> damm grub doesnt build
11:03 < _Ragnar_> might need a complete cross build environment for that
11:04 < mipe> it fails on binutils,needs working absolute objcopy
11:05 < _Ragnar_> absolute?
11:05 < mipe> absolute address for objcopy
11:07 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
11:07 < _Ragnar_> if I ever get that uclibc system running, a64 will be my next target
11:15 < _Ragnar_> `goodnight folks
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14:42 < rxr> yeah:
14:42 < rxr> got a 64bit qt on the sparc64:
14:42 < rxr> == 01/23/05 13:31:11 =[5]=> Finished building package qt.
15:13 < mipe> rxr:i just dont get grub to build on x86_64,error i get is:
15:14 < mipe> Error: Incorrect register `%rax' used with `l' suffix
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15:20 < rxr> you said it built manually ?
15:24 < mipe> yeah but no in the chroot env,i compiled it in my gentoo box
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16:46 < rxr> nicely snowing over here ...
16:49 < rxr> hm - at least 2.6.10 and 2.6.11-rc2 do not have a functional ati mach64 framebuffer on SPARC ....
16:49 < rxr> 2.6.1 and I think 2.6.3 did work ...
16:50 < rxr> at least it did not freeze again since my cleaning procedure
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17:29 < rxr> btw an iBook likely survives a "tea shower"
17:30 < rxr> at least the one of my girlfriend did - it did not power up for 24 hours - but then, today, it worked just fine again ;-)
17:52 < rxr> http://dot.kde.org/1106477233/
18:41 < rxr> http://primates.ximian.com/~jimmac/blog/Artwork/Inkscape
18:44 < CIA-9> rene * r5784 /trunk/package/gnome2/bluefish/bluefish.desc: * updated bluefish (0.13 -> 1.0)
18:49 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/t2/2005-01-23/
19:21 < CIA-9> rene * r5785 /trunk/package/scientific/qmatplot/qmatplot.conf: * fixed qmatplot (does not like --enable-final)
19:23 < CIA-9> rene * r5786 / (41 files in 41 dirs):
19:23 < CIA-9> * added some more NOPARALLEL flags based on some quick greps in my
19:23 < CIA-9> reference build error logs ...
20:14 < _Ragnar_> hi
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21:22 < rxr> uhm
21:22 < rxr> xemacs ispell is nto utf8 safe ...
21:23 < _Ragnar_> who uses xemacs?:)
21:24 < rxr> i
21:25 < rxr> maybe I should switch to kde's kate - at least it is capable to spellcheck utf8 documents ...
21:27 < _Ragnar_> ;)
21:32 < rxr> .oO(and the latest xft stuff in xemacs is quite imperfect, too)
21:44 < praenti> hi. anybody here with a running dvb card like an haupauge nexus?
21:46 < rxr> yes
21:47 < rxr> but I'm quite out of time right now ...
21:47 < praenti> rxr: ok. than i don't want to disturb you with my problem :-)
21:48 < rxr> well - write it and I might have some seconds to answer ..
21:48 < rxr> but no long howtos today ... :-(
21:49 < praenti> rxr: and thats the point... i need a bigger one :-(
21:49 < rxr> howto ?
21:49 < praenti> perhaps i will send you a mail if i don't get it running. sp you can answer it when you have enough time
21:50 < praenti> perhaps i have a bigger problem with my card...
21:51 < praenti> but thx for your offer :-)
21:51 < praenti> the problem is that when i load dvb-ttpci i have no /dev/dvb/* devices...
21:51 < praenti> firmware is in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware and the driver loads
21:53 < rxr> which kernel ?
21:53 < praenti> 2.6.9
21:55 < rxr> do you get s.th. in the dmesg / var/log/messages about devices recognized and/or firmware loading success or failure ?
21:56 < praenti> interesting:
21:56 < praenti> saa7146: unregister extension 'dvb'.
21:56 < praenti> saa7146: register extension 'dvb'.
21:56 < praenti> ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:0a.0[A] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
21:56 < praenti> saa7146: saa7146_init_one(): request_irq() failed.
21:56 < praenti> looks like the frontend module has a problem
21:57 < praenti> to be exact it is a technotrend premium rev. 1.5
21:58 < praenti> so i don't if the frontend module has s.th. to do with that
21:58 < praenti> wait a minute. perhaps i have found the problem...
22:00 < rxr> what is in the log before?
22:00 < rxr> maybe a simple IRQ sharing conflict ?
22:02 < praenti> that would be strange cause the card is the only on irq 10
22:03 < praenti> i suspected the hotplug, but that also not the problem...
22:03 < praenti> but i don't want to use too much of your time
22:04 < rxr> request_irq failed is quite suspicious ..
22:04 < rxr> IRQ 10 is normally the GFX card in x86 systems ...
22:04 < rxr> try moving it to another PCI slot
22:04 < praenti> ok. thx
22:22 < praenti> rxr: irq 7 works :-)
22:22 < praenti> thx
22:26 < rxr> no problem
23:25 * rxr crawling into bed ...
23:25 < rxr> n8 all
23:26 < _Ragnar_> gn8
23:30 < rxr> ;-) you too
23:32 < rxr> cool
23:32 < rxr> just tested some sparc64 X stuff over ssh -X ...
23:32 < rxr> (no local X yet)
23:32 < rxr> xedit, xclock and even qtconfig work ...
23:33 < rxr> gtk-demo, too
23:37 < _Ragnar_> neat
23:38 < rxr> xemacs, emacs (sort off)
23:44 < Postal> hey all
23:47 < Postal> !> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../ ..
23:47 < Postal> !> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/3.4.3/crtbeginS.o( ..
23:47 < Postal> !> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/3.4.3/crtbeginS.o( ..
23:47 < Postal> !> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
23:48 < Postal> !> make: *** [libdb_cxx-4.2.la] Error 1
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