--- Log opened Thu Dec 30 00:00:46 2004 00:01 < jsaw> opt/e17/bin/edje_cc 00:02 < rxr> re 00:02 < jsaw> opt/e17/bin/embryo_cc 00:02 < jsaw> one of these... 00:03 < rxr> embryo_cc 00:03 < rxr> edje is s.th. different 00:04 < rxr> link quality: 33/92 00:04 < rxr> ;-) 00:04 < CIA-10> jsaw * r5312 /trunk/package/python/pil/freetype2-fix.patch: * freetype2 header location fix for PIL 00:07 < mnemoc> rxr: when you reach 40% you will be back on berlin 00:07 -!- sparc-kly|AMD [~mubex@66.50.161.111] has quit [Client Quit] 00:08 < mnemoc> jsaw: CC=$root/opt/e17/bin/embryo_cc looks evil 00:09 < rxr> mnemoc: better just remove CC from the make argument list so it picks the one specified in the make file# 00:09 < jsaw> is it a new cvs checkout of entrance? 00:10 < mnemoc> entrance-2004-06-24 00:10 < jsaw> maybe they already found out that it is not very sensible to use CC... 00:11 < jsaw> 1349 builds total, 1279 completed fine, 70 with errors. 00:11 < rxr> mnemoc: or just leave it alone ... 00:11 < rxr> we should pull a complete e17 update soon ... 00:11 < mnemoc> ok 00:12 < mnemoc> var_remove_regex makeopt ' ' 'CC=[^ ]*' reverted 00:12 < rxr> e.g. they announced the first mostly working new e17 window manager in early dec or so 00:12 < mnemoc> ic 00:12 < CIA-10> rene * r5313 /trunk/package/graphic/gimp/gimp.desc: * updated gimp (2.2.0 -> 2.2.1) 00:14 < mnemoc> 1349 builds total, 1279 completed fine, 70 with errors. <-- i have 4 when 752 completed, stuff seems to get dark 00:14 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 25.79% (187 hits, 538 misses) 00:14 < rxr> ^- this is a first pass abiword 00:15 < rxr> (which some abiword built on my book weeks ago of course) 00:15 < rxr> let's see if it get near 100% for a rebuild 00:15 < jsaw> mnemoc: yes, quite some packages fail in later stages. 00:15 -!- Sparc-kly|G4 [~sparc@66.50.161.111] has left #t2 ["Leaving"] 00:15 < rxr> during rebuild? 00:16 < rxr> or just toy packages that fail? 00:16 < rxr> jsaw: to you also get the segfault in ld during inkscape build? 00:16 < jsaw> no 00:17 < jsaw> 5-inkscape.log 00:17 < rxr> oh 00:17 < rxr> interesting 00:17 < rxr> I thought it would be an globbing patch problem 00:17 -!- N0V4K [~N0V4K@246.Red-80-33-149.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #t2 ["Adios"] 00:17 < mnemoc> Error logs from full-2.1.0-beta3-x86-pentiumpro-32-generic-expert: 00:17 < mnemoc> [5] e17/efsd [5] e17/entrance 00:17 < mnemoc> [5] kde/kdebindings [5] contrib/joystick 00:17 < mnemoc> [5] kde/kdeedu 00:17 < mnemoc> 1349 builds total, 755 completed fine, 5 with errors. 00:18 < mnemoc> kdeedu joined the list 00:18 < rxr> we can remove joystick anyways 00:18 < rxr> I accidently pacakged the wrong one 00:18 < rxr> it is obsolete 00:18 < rxr> instead we need some linux input device utility package s.th. 00:18 < rxr> to calibrate joysticks and such 00:19 < jsaw> mnemoc: kdebindings? why does it fail? 00:19 < mnemoc> cc1plus leaks 00:20 < jsaw> 5-kdebindings.log here 00:20 < jsaw> seems I have enough memory... 00:20 < mnemoc> http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/8/24/118 <--- this, but eating 700m 00:20 < rxr> I guess only for some optimizations 00:20 < rxr> I also get the error on a 512MB Athlon optimizing for pentium-mmx 00:20 < mnemoc> i did pmmx 00:21 * rxr too 00:21 < mnemoc> ppro, sorry 00:21 * rxr not 00:21 < mnemoc> mine failed for ppro :) 00:22 < mnemoc> ld: cannot find -lboost_python 00:22 < mnemoc> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 00:22 < mnemoc> make[3]: *** [libkigpart.la] Error 1 00:22 < mnemoc> make[3]: Leaving directory `/TOOLCHAIN/src.kdeedu.1104359761.28646.0/kdeedu-3.3.2/kig' 00:23 < jsaw> MemTotal: 903512 kB 00:23 < jsaw> SwapTotal: 2000052 kB 00:23 < mnemoc> jsaw: you have enough memory :) 00:23 < jsaw> The max usage I've seen was beyound 800Mb 00:23 < jsaw> in kdebindings 00:24 < mnemoc> that's nasty 00:26 < mnemoc> you can't consider ok a package which needs 800Mb and lot of time on 0.0cpu 00:26 < mnemoc> i have 512+1024 and i aborted after 4 hours 00:26 < CIA-10> rene * r5314 /trunk/package/x11/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode.desc: * updated rxvt-unicode (4.6 -> 4.7) 00:27 < rxr> on my big athlon it failed OOM killed IIRC 00:27 < mnemoc> krap :) 00:27 < rxr> and my DVB-T that was streamed to the CRT at the asme time degraded to 6 frames per minute or so ... 00:27 < rxr> and per minute was no typo ... 00:28 < rxr> I was near to hit the reset button ... 00:28 < rxr> I think we should disable the part of kdebindings that neads that much memory to build 00:28 < rxr> it is unnormal 00:28 < jeru> I've to leave now ... have to go to bed ... feel bad because I'm still having fu**ing influenza 00:29 < jsaw> cu jeru , recover! 00:29 < rxr> jsaw: gute besserung ;-) 00:29 < jeru> rxr: when you are back in berlin? 00:29 < jsaw> rxr: jeru, not jsaw... 00:29 < rxr> jeru: I still have no idea - latest is on the 2nd jan ... 00:29 < rxr> jsaw: yes - ... 00:29 < jeru> thank you ... merci ... danke schön ... 00:30 < jeru> bye bye 00:30 -!- jeru [~jeru@pD9516221.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:31 < mnemoc> brb 00:33 < jsaw> After 22 designs, 320 man-years, a 50% staff of Ph.Ds, and $50 million, you end up with a design that works.' 00:33 < jsaw> tststs 00:34 < rxr> where is that from=? 00:35 < rxr> dyson vacum cleaner? 00:35 < jsaw> slashdot: Science: MicroDisplay Claims Progress Toward Elusive LCoS 00:35 < jsaw> http://science.slashdot.org/science/04/12/29/1930229.shtml 00:35 < rxr> jsaw: btw. you once updated nvidia package - have you a card handy to test 00:35 < jsaw> not any more 00:35 < rxr> good for you - bad for me ... :-( 00:36 < rxr> (crappy cars ....) 00:36 < rxr> cards ... 00:36 < jsaw> The respective PC is broken, so, no, it's not good for me... :( 00:37 < rxr> but not any component I hope ... 00:38 < jsaw> CPU, memory, board. One or more did the celcius death... 00:38 < jsaw> died... 00:39 < jsaw> Seems like my error count reported was too high. 00:46 < rxr> hm? 00:47 < jsaw> oh, remember that mnemoc reported about the missing crt1.o? Sometimes strange things happen if a package is rebuild in stage0-1. 00:47 < rxr> .oO 00:47 < jsaw> I removed stage 2 completely now and a few more packages built. 00:47 < rxr> found two bugs in my ld globbing code 00:52 < rxr> our ccache support is quite advanced now 00:52 < rxr> I think I rebuild the mozilla packages over the night to see if they are also better cached now ... 01:00 < jsaw> I have to leave. cu all! 01:00 < rxr> cu jsaw - and good night 01:00 < mnemoc> re 01:01 < jsaw> not yet... my wife's got problem breathing thru the nose and can't take anything due to pregnancy... 01:01 < jsaw> anyway, cu later probably. 01:01 < mnemoc> oh 01:01 < mnemoc> cu jsaw 01:09 < rxr> == 12/30/04 01:09:12 =[5]=> Finished building package inkscape. 01:09 < mnemoc> :) 01:13 < rxr> let's see if this fixes my 5-glibc as well 01:13 < rxr> I'll try to go to bed soon 01:13 < mnemoc> what do think about adding something like basicconfig*.in to packages to allow the to add stuff to non-expert config like ccache? 01:13 < rxr> to wake up before my farther comes back from work ... 01:14 < mnemoc> :) 01:14 < rxr> hm 01:14 < rxr> I think we get too many variants of configs - there are also the config-???.in's ... 01:14 < rxr> maybe we should use the number to encode if it is expert or not ... 01:14 < rxr> <500 is basic or so and > 500 is expert ... 01:15 < mnemoc> ok 01:15 < mnemoc> i'll see what i can do 01:16 < mnemoc> <500 and >=5000 where config.in is.. 750 01:16 < mnemoc> 500* 01:17 < rxr> hm - sound ok 01:19 < CIA-10> rene * r5315 /trunk/package/base/binutils/ld-glob.patch: 01:19 < CIA-10> * fixed a memory corruption, a memory leak and an unnecessary double 01:19 < CIA-10> zero string termination in the binutils/ld-glob.patch (fixes at least 01:19 < CIA-10> 5-inkscape for me - but most probably some other seg-faults) 01:19 < mnemoc> were you segfaulting bash3? 01:20 < rxr> me? 01:20 < rxr> no bash3 is segfaulting itself 01:20 < rxr> I have nothing to do with it ... 01:20 < mnemoc> :) 01:20 < rxr> I should produce a testcase and throw it into redhat bugzilla to let them fix bash ... 01:22 < mnemoc> you should sleep to wake up early :) 01:22 < rxr> yep soon 01:27 < rxr> huh?: http://www-124.ibm.com/developerworks/oss/linux/projects/omni/ 01:27 < rxr> I have missed s.th. 01:31 < mnemoc> *click* 01:32 < mnemoc> lacks of 'screenshots' 01:32 < rxr> hey the code is written in C++ ;-) 01:33 < rxr> hey this are printing drivers ... 01:33 < rxr> printer even 01:34 < mnemoc> yep, but you can screenshot it's usage :) 01:35 < mnemoc> uhm OmniArchitecture0.2 is 5M and 0.3 150k 01:35 < rxr> as a backend of cups it will look like it looks now ... 01:35 < mnemoc> nice 01:36 < mnemoc> i didn't read it was that compatible 01:36 < mnemoc> brb 01:36 < rxr> this are just printer driver interfacing to ghostscript 01:36 < rxr> afai understand this 01:36 < mnemoc> :) 01:36 < rxr> and it seems cups and gnome have direct support for the lib 01:37 < rxr> I need to try it out soon ... 01:45 < rxr> "After starting this tool, it will go into daemon mode and starts to kill randomly random processes... 01:45 < rxr> This will give you real-windows-feeling!" 01:45 < rxr> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=19198 01:51 < CIA-10> rene * r5316 /trunk/package/develop/subversion/ (subversion.desc svn_sm.patch svnperl-leak.patch): 01:51 < CIA-10> * updated subversion (1.1.1 -> 1.1.2) - removed non applying submaster 01:51 < CIA-10> patch ... 01:58 -!- sparc-kly|ZzZzZ| is now known as sparc-kly 02:01 * rxr in bed - cu 02:22 -!- ideal [~idealm@211.100.227.107] has joined #t2 02:34 < mnemoc> great, kernel panic after insmods loading stage2 (after trying to mount 'real-root' init is killed) 02:43 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.196.223.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 02:43 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.exactcode.de/t2 02:43 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue Dec 28 14:55:44 2004] 02:43 [Users #t2] 02:43 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ jsaw ] [ nzg] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin] 02:43 [ CIA-10 ] [ ideal ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr] [ sparc-kly] 02:43 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal] 02:43 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 02:43 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 02:52 < mnemoc> great, kernel panic after insmods loading stage2 (after trying to mount 'real-root' init is killed) 02:52 < mnemoc> rxr: there exist misc/*/noexpertconfig.in, i'll remove this on config-$level.in separation 02:54 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.199.47.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:00 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5317 /trunk/scripts/Config: * fixed Config to be vim-syntax friendly 05:13 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5318 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: 05:13 < CIA-10> * updated imagemagick (6.1.3-7 -> 6.1.7-5) 05:13 < CIA-10> * fixed imagemagick [U] and added [CV-URL] 05:56 -!- N0V4K [~N0V4K@246.Red-80-33-149.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #t2 06:10 -!- N0V4K_ [~N0V4K@246.Red-80-33-149.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #t2 06:10 -!- N0V4K_ [~N0V4K@246.Red-80-33-149.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:08 -!- mipe [~mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 08:52 < CIA-10> jsaw * r5319 /trunk/package/develop/libwbxml2/libwbxml2.desc: * update libwbxml2 (0.8.2 -> 0.9) 08:54 < CIA-10> jsaw * r5320 /trunk/package/develop/gwenhywfar/ (. gwenhywfar.desc): 08:54 < CIA-10> * add package gwenhywfar (1.3) 08:54 < CIA-10> A multi-purpose system abstraction library. 08:55 < CIA-10> jsaw * r5321 /trunk/package/office/aqbanking/ (. aqbanking.desc): 08:55 < CIA-10> * add package aqbanking (0.9.8) 08:55 < CIA-10> A generic interface to online banking. 08:56 < CIA-10> jsaw * r5322 /trunk/package/develop/gcl/gcl.conf: * no need to strip -O* while building gcl 09:55 -!- ideal [~idealm@211.100.227.107] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:05 * N0V4K is away: Estoy ocupado 11:10 < rxr_> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 10.52% (289 hits, 2457 misses) 11:10 < rxr_> ^- mozilla rebuild 11:10 < rxr_> better but still not good ... 11:11 < rxr_> mon 11:11 < rxr_> moin 11:11 -!- You're now known as rxr 11:20 -!- tschmidt_ [~tschmidt@pD95F8F94.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 11:21 < rxr> hi tschmidt_ 11:24 -!- tschmidt__ [~tschmidt@pD95F86B2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 11:24 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508EAE95.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 11:24 -!- tschmidt__ is now known as nzg 11:41 -!- tschmidt_ [~tschmidt@pD95F8F94.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:49 < rxr> hm - ok - icecream rebuld is completely cached: 11:49 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 100.00% (102 hits, 0 misses) 12:54 < mnemoc> moin :) 12:57 < rxr> moin mnemoc 13:03 < mnemoc> i got out of space again :\ 13:14 < mnemoc> i have a patch to move every config's temporal file to $cfgtmpdir=src/$config, ... only a problem on 'edit' left 13:16 < mnemoc> rxr: did you wake up on time? :) 13:17 < rxr> yeah - quite so 13:23 < CIA-10> rene * r5323 /trunk/package/develop/scons/ (. scons.cache scons.desc): * added scons (0.96.1) 13:25 < mipe> hmm. cross built, but that cant be right.... 13:25 < mipe> oh and hi all 13:27 < mnemoc> hi mipe 13:27 < mnemoc> brb 13:44 -!- jeru [~jeru@pD95166B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 13:44 < jeru> hello 13:45 < rxr> hi jeru 13:45 < jeru> rxr: do you have experience with linking against zlib 13:45 < jeru> i have a problem with a package i want to commit 13:47 < jeru> it seems that it expects zlib in a different location 13:48 < jeru> it doesn't find the correct path although -lz is specified 13:48 < jeru> gcc -o static.cgi static.o -lz -L../libs/ -lneo_cgi -lneo_cs -lneo_utl 13:49 < jeru> is there a smart way for detecting zlib path within a configure script? 13:50 < jeru> another option that should work is to add an configure option e.g. '--with-zlib=path-to-zlib' 13:52 < rxr> hm 13:52 < rxr> sorry for the delay - was away 13:52 < jeru> ;-) no prob 13:53 < jeru> if i use: 13:53 < jeru> gcc -o static.cgi static.o -lz -L/lib -L../libs/ -lneo_cgi -lneo_cs -lneo_utl 13:53 < rxr> hm 13:53 < jeru> it works 13:53 < rxr> here -lz works just fine 13:54 < jeru> hmm? 13:54 < rxr> what is the error then you leave the -l/lib away? 13:54 < jeru> as I understand with "-lz" it shoud automagicaly detect the correct path 13:54 < rxr> well - where automatically is to look into /etc/ld.so.conf 13:55 < rxr> but yep - it should just work 13:55 < jeru> clearsilver-0.9.12/cgi/cgi.c:1007: undefined reference to `deflate' 13:55 < jeru> clearsilver-0.9.12/cgi/cgi.c:1009: undefined reference to `deflateEnd' 13:55 < rxr> and when you move the -lz to the end of the commandline? 13:55 < jeru> I will try 14:00 < rxr> scos does bypass our gcc wrapper quite elegantly ... :-( 14:06 < jeru> rxr: it works after I moved -lz to then end :) thank you 14:06 < jeru> now I have to modify the configure scripts 14:13 < mnemoc> re 14:18 < mnemoc> rxr: what needed gwenhywfar? 14:22 < rxr> mnemoc: what ? 14:22 < mnemoc> oh, sorry.... it was jsaw 14:23 < mnemoc> gwenhywfar <--- weird name 14:24 < mnemoc> aha, AqBanking 14:33 * rxr still confused 14:35 < mnemoc> two packages jsaw added last night 14:36 < mnemoc> dia fail because it thinks freetype 2.1.7<2.0.9 14:36 < rxr> yes - confirmed 14:52 < mipe> huoh,still dietlibc fails. tryed with cvs build 14:53 < jsaw> re 14:53 < jsaw> gnucash <- aqbanking <- gwenhywfar 14:53 < jsaw> dia is wip 14:54 < mnemoc> jsaw: wip on 0.94 or wip on 0.92.2? 14:54 < jsaw> 0.94 14:54 < mnemoc> re jsaw :) 14:54 < jsaw> hi mnemoc 14:54 < jsaw> rxr: ping 14:56 < jsaw> mipe: What is the problem with dietlibc? 14:57 < mipe> jsaw:doing cross compile for amd64 and i get i386/start.S:10: Error: suffix or operands invalid for errors 14:58 < mnemoc> mipe: the problem might be in that 'i386' there :) 14:58 < jsaw> wrong parameters passed to config... should be x86_64 or ia64.... 14:58 < jsaw> mnemoc was faster... 14:58 < mipe> mnemoc:yeah but how to fix it. mcpu is setted propely, but ARCH=i386,thats the problem 14:58 < mipe> i guess 14:59 < jsaw> I guess you have chosen 64bit support but did not select a specific optimization... 14:59 < mnemoc> then the problem is on t2 config as rene said 14:59 < jsaw> go to ./scripts/Config and check one 14:59 < mipe> i mean the ARCH is setted on dietlibc makefile. 14:59 < mnemoc> aha 15:01 < jsaw> it's actuall dietlibc that does not understand that you can have 64bit support without being too specific on the CPU 15:02 < jsaw> damn. once again something that was lost somewhere in my brain... 15:03 * daja77 running google on jsaw 15:03 < mnemoc> :) 15:04 < rxr> pong 15:06 < jsaw> rxr: see query 15:06 < jsaw> hi daja77 . *good idea* :) 15:12 < mnemoc> any news of valentin from 21c3? 15:14 < jsaw> I just read the "18000 sites hacked" news... 15:14 < jsaw> ... and the upcoming legal problems... 15:14 < mnemoc> uhm? 15:15 < jsaw> obviously a guy found a database and published it... now a few admins are pissed... 15:16 < mnemoc> url? 15:18 < jsaw> it was in german only... maybe it shows up on /. later 15:18 < jsaw> seems like gnucash is installing its files... 15:19 < mnemoc> :D 15:19 < jsaw> AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 15:19 < jsaw> same error like dia, in the last step... 15:20 < mnemoc> export_png.o(.text+0x2b8): In function `export_png_ok': 15:20 < mnemoc> export_png.c: undefined reference to `png_create_write_struct' 15:20 < mnemoc> my dia is failing there 15:20 < jsaw> wrong window, forget it, gnucash is still building... 15:20 < daja77> linpng? 15:20 < daja77> libpng even 15:20 < jsaw> daja77: could you please install google and a some nice system cleanup worm in here? 15:21 < jsaw> in my brain ... even 15:21 < mnemoc> 1.2.8 is there, and configure was happy 15:21 < daja77> O_o 15:21 < daja77> perhaps running ldconfig once more 15:21 < daja77> <.- off 15:21 < jsaw> no, -lpng is missing. 15:22 < jsaw> But the Makefile is correct... 15:23 < mnemoc> uhm 15:25 < jsaw> or somehow the "PNG_LIBS" var is empty... I haven't found the error yet. 15:25 < mnemoc> # ./debug.sh 15:25 < mnemoc> ./debug.sh: line 3: 15886 Segmentation fault 15:25 < mnemoc> i _hate_ this 15:25 < jsaw> me too 15:26 < mnemoc> what about downgrading bash until 3.0.1? 15:26 < rxr> maybe i find this soon 15:27 < rxr> if rock 2.0 ships bash3 now (AFAIR) it should be affected, too 15:27 < mnemoc> good point, daja77? :) 15:30 < CIA-10> jsaw * r5324 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnucash/mixed-decl-fix.patch: * fix a "mixed declaration error" in gnucash 15:31 < mnemoc> jsaw: gnucash built??! 15:33 < jsaw> yes 15:34 < mnemoc> amazing :D 15:34 < jsaw> == 12/30/04 15:31:43 =[5]=> Finished building package gnucash. 15:35 < daja77> no we don't ship bash3 in any branch 15:35 < mnemoc> professor george frankenstein 15:35 < mnemoc> oh 15:35 < jsaw> ? 15:36 -!- madtux [~mike@200.91.101.98] has joined #t2 15:36 < madtux> hi 15:36 < mnemoc> i gave life to a dead monster :) 15:36 < madtux> 0_o 15:36 < madtux> ??! 15:36 < mnemoc> s/i/you/ 15:36 < mnemoc> you=jsaw 15:36 < madtux> ... ?! 15:37 < mnemoc> forget it 15:37 < madtux> NO. tell me :) 15:38 < mnemoc> == 12/30/04 15:31:43 =[5]=> Finished building package gnucash. 15:38 < madtux> oh :) 15:38 < madtux> see that wasn't o hard 15:38 < madtux> so* 15:43 < jsaw> I built before rxr updated it... 15:43 < madtux> mm.. 15:43 < madtux> rebuild with new version? 15:43 < madtux> :) 15:43 -!- jeru [~jeru@pD95166B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:43 < jsaw> yep, 1.8.9 -> 1.8.10 15:44 < jsaw> 1350 builds total, 1289 completed fine, 61 with errors. 15:44 < madtux> oh btw... on my testing this week here are some results: 15:45 < madtux> router target, bootdisk, minimal, and minimal+xorg built flawless.. 15:45 < mnemoc> 1351 builds total, 905 completed fine, 21 with errors. 15:45 < madtux> all of them optimized for: 386, pmmx and p3 15:45 < mnemoc> madtux: i got kernel panic installing mini-xfce 15:45 < jsaw> madtux: oh 15:45 < madtux> mnemoc: i'm not done downloading it.. 15:45 * mnemoc kicks madtux 15:46 < jsaw> I have to leave. cu later! 15:46 < madtux> mnemoc: maybe u can boot from the install cds and chroot on it and make a new kernel image? 15:46 < madtux> cya jsaw 15:46 < madtux> tonight i will be able to see hwo stuff on my ultra 5 15:46 < mnemoc> madtux: bootdisk segfaulted before installing anything 15:46 < mnemoc> nice 15:47 < mnemoc> s/segfauletd/paniced/ 15:48 < madtux> mnemoc: mmm... 15:52 < madtux> mnemoc: interesting. 15:52 < madtux> then i guess this iso is not worth to finish downloading it 15:53 < mnemoc> i don't think so 15:54 * madtux slaps mnemoc 15:54 < mnemoc> bootdisk has never worked fine to me 15:54 < madtux> as in it always brakes? 15:55 < madtux> perhaps its your optimization? 15:55 < mnemoc> no, it seem to be my hardware and libc 16:00 < madtux> hardware on which box? 16:00 < madtux> and if its ur libc why can't u just update ur system? 16:04 < mnemoc> dietlibc has never been friendly to my home machine 16:04 < mnemoc> that's why i wanted you to test it too 16:04 < madtux> ok i will test it. 16:05 < madtux> did u try to boot on the laptop 16:05 < madtux> just to see if kernel panics too 16:05 < mnemoc> i wanted to do it today but i left the disk at home :\ 16:08 < madtux> can't u take the laptop with u ? 16:08 < madtux> ah i guess u can go home at lunch time and bring the cd with you. 16:08 < mnemoc> yep 16:12 < mnemoc> damn... i can't find the bug on my patch to Config (temportal config files at src/$config instead of . and config/$config/) 16:12 < mnemoc> it doesn't keep what i edit 16:12 < madtux> urrgs 16:13 < mnemoc> e.g. pkgsel 16:13 < madtux> mmm... i'm feeling weird with my life atm.. 16:13 < madtux> Coding at night.. watching dvd's after coding... building and updating during the day.. 16:13 < mnemoc> sleeping? 16:14 < madtux> its fun.. but weird 16:14 < madtux> mnemoc: sometimes yes 16:14 < madtux> nah yeah i sleep good 16:14 < madtux> at lest 6 hours a day 16:14 < madtux> least* 16:15 < mnemoc> 6 hours continue? 16:15 < madtux> sure... 16:15 < madtux> but normaly 7 to 8 hours. 16:16 < madtux> +the time it takes me to get to the office 16:16 < madtux> which can go from 30 - 50 minutes depending on the traffi 16:16 < madtux> c 16:16 < mnemoc> that's great 16:16 < madtux> each way. 16:16 < mnemoc> even if i try i can't sleep more than 4 hours 16:17 < madtux> i could sleep for 3 days if work allowed it. 16:17 < mnemoc> :D 16:17 < madtux> seriously.. i've done it before. 16:35 < madtux> we never continued tha talk about cache files yesterday :( 16:35 < mnemoc> damn, i'm a morron! 16:35 < mnemoc> :D 16:36 < mnemoc> madtux: send an RFC to /dev/null .... i mean t2ml 16:36 < madtux> I've been thinking that we should have additional to the naming feature, the option to choose which kernel is default, and the person actually wants to have both 2.4 and 2.6 respectively, or just wants ONE of the kernels 16:37 < madtux> also do you think we will reach a point of flexible someday where the user can choose the pkg manager for the distro he/she/it is building? ie. mine, dpkg, rpm .. 16:38 < madtux> just silly crazy ideas that come to my mind 16:39 < mnemoc> afaik we will fall back to tbz2 16:40 < mnemoc> with a library extending libtar to add the performance of extracting metadata 16:41 < madtux> well the flexible pkg manager selection is just a foolish thing that came to my mind today somewhere between my bed and the shower 16:41 < madtux> maybe in the future.. i don't know i don't care about that atm 16:41 < mnemoc> having a tgz you can convert it to almost any format 16:42 < madtux> i do care about the kernel selection options 16:44 < mnemoc> pkgsel -linux24? :) 16:45 < madtux> as i said before.. either choose the default kernel and have both.. or select only one 16:45 < madtux> this shouldn't be so hard to do i guess 16:46 < mnemoc> i was done before... that /feature/ was removed on the firsts days of t2 16:46 < mnemoc> it* 16:46 < madtux> mnemoc: no keep in mind that if we pkgsel -linux24 we will also probbly want to do pksel -modutils.. 16:46 < madtux> why? 16:47 < mnemoc> i don't remember if is was considerd harmfull or useless 16:47 < mnemoc> great, src/$config/ patch working 100% :D 16:49 < mnemoc> jsaw: here' 16:49 < mnemoc> jsaw: here? 16:49 < daja77> hm choosing both or one kernel, did that for my builds 16:51 < madtux> hello danny boy... glad to see you 16:51 < jsaw> (more or less) 16:52 < madtux> daja77: have u heard anything from the event people? the sooner i can know if they approved my workshop or not, the better 16:52 < jsaw> mnemoc: ? 16:52 < mnemoc> jsaw: i'll do a commit of a tested patch for Config, it would be great if your can give it a look 16:53 * mnemoc re^n-checking diffs.... 16:53 < madtux> .oO( yeah Mike, you can look from behind...) 16:53 < jsaw> mnemoc: what's it doin? 16:53 < daja77> madtux: deadline is on jan 1st, so no decision will be made until then but i will issue that question again before that 16:53 < mnemoc> madtux: of course 16:54 < madtux> daja77: very well. 16:54 < mnemoc> jsaw: it does all temporal stuff on $cfgtmpdir=src/$config/ 16:54 < madtux> mnemoc: that hurt.. :( 16:54 < jsaw> mnemoc: oh, *great* 16:56 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5325 /trunk/scripts/ (Config config.func config.in): * improved Config to do all it's temporal work on $cfgtmpdir=src/$config/ 16:56 < mnemoc> that 17:08 -!- mipe [~mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11"] 17:10 < mnemoc> madtux: router use to be "ROCK Router Linux" on help, what should i use now? 17:11 < madtux> see target/router/router.txt 17:11 < mnemoc> T2 Router 17:12 < madtux> :) 17:28 < jsaw> mnemoc: works 17:29 < mnemoc> :D 17:29 < mnemoc> comments? 17:30 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5326 /trunk/scripts/ (8 files): * fixed scripts which referenced ROCK Linux stuff 17:32 < jsaw> mnemoc: my comment ... eh... eh... 17:32 < jsaw> mnemoc: It was long overdue... 17:33 < mnemoc> :D 17:34 < mnemoc> as my build is 300 packages behind yours i have to do something :) 17:34 < jsaw> (I messed up my config some time ago when I built and configure multiple configs in parallel) 17:34 < jsaw> shouldn't happen anymore.. :) 17:34 < mnemoc> i hope so :) 17:36 < mnemoc> my next change to Config will be config-$n.in n<500 means no expert 17:36 < mnemoc> config{,-$n}.in n>=500 means expert 17:36 < mnemoc> config.in --> 750 17:36 < mnemoc> with cache 17:36 < jsaw> go for it. 17:37 < mnemoc> thanks for your support 17:40 < jsaw> I have to leave... Marlene's got chicken pox... 17:40 < jsaw> cu later. 17:43 < mnemoc> chicken pox?? 17:44 < mnemoc> oops... varicella 18:08 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.14] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:11 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.48] has joined #t2 18:36 < rxr> re 18:38 * rxr just departed a Apple iMac 500Mhz 18:38 < rxr> just bought a defect one for 20EUR ... 18:38 < rxr> (from e neighbor) 18:38 < valentin> hi 18:39 < rxr> damn complex thing 18:39 < valentin> we have a 485 mhz gekko g3 now 18:39 < rxr> the power suply is spread over the wohle beast ... 18:39 < rxr> who is we? 18:39 < rxr> you? 18:40 < valentin> i bought K a gamecube 18:40 < valentin> and now i wonder if i am allowed to exchange the ipl :) 18:43 < valentin> this thing has 24mb of 10ns 1T-SRAM 18:44 < valentin> and they say mplayer can play high quality divX videos in linux 18:44 -!- tschmidt_ [~tschmidt@p508EABC7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 18:49 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@pD95F86B2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:59 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:17 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has joined #t2 19:35 < rxr> then you should note hace given it away .. 19:36 < mnemoc> re 20:01 * N0V4K is away: Estoy ocupado 20:09 * madtux returns 20:11 < mnemoc> hi madmax 20:13 -!- tschmidt_ [~tschmidt@p508EABC7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:13 < madtux> hello _always_online_mnemoc_ 20:25 < mnemoc> not always online, my link blinks daily 20:37 < rxr> hi madtux 20:39 < madtux> interesting stuff... i'm getting errors on bootdisks - stage3 screaming that mine is not installed.. and yes it was built on stage 1.. 20:39 < madtux> i will svn up and do this stuff on a clean trunk 20:40 < madtux> and hi rxr :) 20:40 < madtux> mnemoc: madmax?!? wtf 21:13 -!- jonhbruce [~john@host81-157-242-89.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #t2 21:14 < madtux> hello jonhbruce 21:17 < mnemoc> madtux: haven't you seen those movies? 21:17 < jonhbruce> hello, madtux. have attempted to run t2 scripts do not get far. broken alias suggested, but seems fine. Anu suggestions? 21:17 < mnemoc> jonhbruce: alias? 21:18 < madtux> mnemoc: what movies? 21:18 < madtux> broken alias.. 21:18 < madtux> jonhbruce: are u runing the scripts outside or inside the scripts directory ? 21:18 < madtux> :) 21:19 < jonhbruce> outside, getting ls -t is not working check aliases. 21:19 < mnemoc> madtux: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082694 21:19 < madtux> jonhbruce: mmm.... and u get that when u excute what script? 21:20 < mnemoc> jonhbruce: T2's scripts are designed to be run from tree-root by root user only 21:20 < madtux> jonhbruce: to be honest i had never seen the error.. then again let have fun 21:20 < jonhbruce> ./scripts/Build-Target 21:20 < mnemoc> yes 21:21 < madtux> jonhbruce: and u didn't get that when u used Config or Download right? 21:21 < mnemoc> jonhbruce: unalias ls 21:21 < jonhbruce> no. Thanks will try running as root. 21:22 < madtux> jonhbruce: to run Build-Target you MUST be root :) 21:22 < jonhbruce> Thanks chaps, will report bacvk. 21:22 -!- jonhbruce [~john@host81-157-242-89.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:23 < madtux> i like this kind of people.. 21:23 < madtux> They don't have time for bullshit.. and neither do i 21:24 < madtux> :) 21:24 < mnemoc> :) 21:24 < mnemoc> jonhbruce: T2's scripts are designed to be run from tree-root by root user only <--- that's why i started telling this 21:26 < madtux> :) 21:26 < madtux> and yeah i've seen the movie.. 21:26 < madtux> interesting it was made on the year i was born 21:31 < mnemoc> :) 21:32 * rxr back to the imac some more power supply hacking ... 22:22 < mnemoc> uhm? 22:25 < rxr> I invested into a defect 500Mhz iMac today .. 22:27 < jsaw> re 22:27 -!- jonhbruce [~john@host81-157-242-89.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #t2 22:27 < jsaw> hi jonhbruce , does it work? 22:27 < mnemoc> i have not enought disc space to do a generic build .... i have nothing else to delete 22:28 < jsaw> :( 22:28 < mnemoc> i'll go back to my small builds and play with Config :) 22:29 < jonhbruce> sadly no, seems there is a problem with fates/times on files. newly created being older than distributed. 22:30 < jonhbruce> have checked system time (and battery) unaliased ls and moved time on by 1 month. to no avail. 22:30 < jsaw> oh 22:31 < jsaw> jonhbruce: what system are currently on (OS/CPU)? 22:31 < jsaw> +dist? 22:32 < jonhbruce> have newly installed FC3 running on athlon-xp 22:33 < jsaw> at what point does this error show up? 22:36 < jonhbruce> during initial checks 22:36 < jsaw> can u post the error? 22:47 * rxr back to the lab ... 22:48 < jsaw> hehe 22:55 < rxr> hm 22:55 < rxr> the power supply chaos confues me .. 22:55 < rxr> damn iMac integration 22:56 < mnemoc> is it a lamp? 22:56 < mnemoc> or the big egg? 22:57 < rxr> the big egg 22:57 < rxr> CRT %00Mhz 22:57 < rxr> 500 even .. 22:57 < mnemoc> slow egg :) 22:57 < rxr> if anyone knows the "imac down converter board's input voltage" 22:57 < rxr> I would be happy 22:58 < rxr> 500 or 0 ? 22:58 < mnemoc> 500 22:58 < mnemoc> rxr: there is 'on line user guide'? 22:58 < rxr> well - 500Mhz is fast enought 22:59 < mnemoc> not for building :) 22:59 < rxr> there are colorful dau user guides 22:59 < rxr> no real techincal detail specs 22:59 < mnemoc> :\ 22:59 < rxr> even the service manual deeply hidden on private sites - does not list such details 22:59 < mnemoc> 800-fancymac 23:02 -!- madtux [~mike@200.91.101.98] has quit ["leaving"] 23:14 < rxr> too bad the apple service manuals are a bit joky ... 23:15 < rxr> defect headphone jack -> replace (the w 23:15 < rxr> hole) logic board 23:16 < rxr> woe ... - good that this is cost insensitive 23:18 < rxr> hehe - it includes recycle information ... 23:19 < mnemoc> :) 23:19 < rxr> me relocating the iBook and taking a final look into the iMac until I'm into bed ... 23:20 < jonhbruce> " ***glibc detected***free(): invalid pointer : 0xf6fef698 " appears in the Building base/... output before the scipt dies. 23:21 < mnemoc> jonhbruce: can you add -x on the first line and run the script again ? 23:21 < mnemoc> is it Build-Target right? 23:27 < jonhbruce> yes Build-Target, only additional info is " make :*** [ configure-bfd] error 1 23:28 < mnemoc> configure-bfd?? 23:29 < jonhbruce> trying to run it again 23:30 < mnemoc> rxr: isn't that part of binutils? 23:31 < jsaw> I think gcc has it also. 23:37 < jsaw> what's the fastest way to check if a number is of type 2^n? 23:38 < daja77> should only have 1 bit set to one 23:38 < jsaw> yep, and how to check this? 23:38 < jsaw> I mean fast - not just looping through the bits... 23:38 < mnemoc> shitfing? 23:39 < mnemoc> :) 23:50 < jsaw> /scratch/src/t2/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 1: /bin/cat: Argument list too long 23:50 < jsaw> *g* 23:52 < mnemoc> :\ 23:52 < mnemoc> bash -x :) 23:52 < jsaw> done < <( cat $root/var/adm/flists/* | sed "s,^$xpkg:,.," | \ 23:52 < rxr> jsaw: you are in electronics, too 23:53 < jsaw> rxr: a bit 23:53 < rxr> when you have some intergrated computer device (this iMac) 23:53 < rxr> you have no detailed specs and it is dead 23:53 < rxr> it consists of this parts: 23:53 < rxr> analoge/video board (including some power siwthcin supply 23:54 < rxr> some main logic board - which routes some wires from the analoge / video board 23:54 < rxr> and a "downconverter board" which is only connected to the logic board 23:55 < rxr> I would expect the downconverted board (which is labeled as such) to convert some higher AC voltage to the normal 3.3 5 and 12 V levels 23:55 < rxr> from some bare info from the net and printons I know it has the 3.3. 5 and 12 V output pins to the log board 23:56 < rxr> (the voltages are there but too low (e.g. 2.x 4.2 and 11.x V which are not even enough to power up an HD 23:56 < rxr> ) 23:56 < rxr> this ominous downconverter board as 2 input pins on the PCB they are even labelled as AC- and AV+ 23:57 < rxr> AC+ even 23:57 < rxr> but when the device is "poweredup" they only contain 0.7V AC 23:57 < rxr> this is really strange .... 23:57 < rxr> especially as the output col 23:57 < jsaw> where do the AC connections come from? 23:57 < rxr> voltages are at least in the range ... 23:58 < rxr> I can not trace them accurate since I have not departed the two main pcb's 23:58 < rxr> there is soo much stuff connected like the CRT cube and such 23:58 < jsaw> do you have an oscilloscope 23:58 < jsaw> ? 23:58 < rxr> well - my parents just relocated my osc. to berlin the last time they visited ... .-( 23:59 < rxr> to me in berlin ... 23:59 < jsaw> my guess is, the AC comes from the switching coil. So a normal voltmeter won't show any useful information... --- Log closed Fri Dec 31 00:00:21 2004