T2 IRC Log: 2004-12-28
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--- Log opened Tue Dec 28 00:00:46 2004
00:09 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5256 /trunk/scripts/functions: * implemented helper find_source_file which returns downloaded file form packages using a pattern
00:36 -!- madtux [~mike@200.91.101.102] has joined #t2
00:36 < madtux> tr
00:36 < madtux> re*
00:39 < daja77> hi madtux
00:40 < madtux> hello Dany Boy
00:42 * daja77 running monkey island 2 atm
00:44 < madtux> daja77: BTW... yeah there are pics of me wearing glasses now..
00:44 < madtux> daja77: have a look:
00:44 < madtux> http://mike.hsol.net/gallery/xmas2004/P1010088
00:45 < daja77> hehe, an olympus cam?
00:45 < madtux> can u tell?
00:46 < madtux> daja77: and my wife... http://mike.hsol.net/gallery/xmas2004/P1010043
00:46 < madtux> yeah she likes puppies..
00:48 < daja77> saw that p images from an olympus cam
00:48 < madtux> ah :)
00:49 < madtux> ah well i'm getting used to the glasses... but it stresses me a bit sometiumes
00:49 < daja77> <- has glasses too
00:54 < madtux> yeah you do..
00:54 < madtux> damn nerd..
00:54 < madtux> :P
00:55 < madtux> nah but glasses look good on u
00:55 < daja77> :p
00:58 < jsaw> re
00:58 < rxr> hi all
00:59 < madtux> i still don't get used to it..
00:59 < madtux> wb jsaw
00:59 < madtux> hi rxr
01:00 * jsaw wears -oo- also
01:00 < madtux> ok i don't feel so weird now
01:00 < madtux> :)
01:01 < jsaw> far or near sighted?
01:01 < rxr> http://www.exactcode.de/t2/download.html
01:02 < rxr> binary ISO link ...
01:05 < CIA-10> rene * r5257 /trunk/package/multimedia/avifile/avifile.conf: * removed LD_LIBRARY_PATH hack from avifile
01:05 < jsaw> mnemoc: is the horse yours?
01:05 < jsaw> I meant madtux...
01:06 < jsaw> madtux: is the horse yours?
01:06 < madtux> jsaw: it belongs to my uncle
01:06 < madtux> its been years since i don't own anything bigger than a dog
01:06 < madtux> :)
01:06 < CIA-10> rene * r5258 /trunk/package/gnome2/glib/gnome-2.conf: * removed --rpath, LDFLAGS hack from the gnome packages
01:06 < jsaw> madtux: hehe
01:07 < jsaw> madtux: who's P1010080?
01:08 < madtux> jsaw: my cousin hellen
01:08 < jsaw> "burn your fingers" (I'd add)
01:08 < rxr> seems I should relocate ... with so pretty womans over there ;-)
01:09 < madtux> hehe
01:09 < madtux> rxr: i have asked you to come visit i forgot how many times already... u are the one missing it
01:10 < jsaw> madtux: hope, this guy (who?) is on linux: P1010010.JPG
01:10 < madtux> :)
01:10 < rxr> yeah - no money ... no time ...
01:10 < madtux> jsaw: this is my uncle and yes he's powered by Linux
01:11 < jsaw> *yeah*
01:11 < madtux> pretty much a newbie but he is out of the dark side
01:11 < jsaw> she's got a few stories to tell: P1010067.JPG
01:11 < madtux> rxr: yeah money can be a problem
01:11 < madtux> yup some :)
01:12 < jsaw> there not so many old ppl that have such kind of warm faces (and still look like you could steal horses with them).
01:13 < madtux> hehe
01:13 * rxr does freshmeaet now ..
01:13 < madtux> rxr: und ditrowatch ?
01:13 < jsaw> go rxr go
01:13 < rxr> jsaw: do you wanna do symlink ?
01:13 < rxr> madtux: we are already on it ...
01:13 < madtux> oh ja..
01:13 < rxr> a bit too early even - my binay CD was not yet synced ...
01:14 < madtux> schei...
01:14 < jsaw> rxr: I can do it later when I'm home.
01:14 < rxr> ok
01:15 < madtux> very well gentlemen
01:15 < madtux> here is where i say good night
01:16 < jsaw> buenas noches, madtux
01:17 < madtux> buenas noches "jorge"
01:17 < jsaw> :)
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01:18 < mnemoc> re
01:19 < jsaw> hi mnemoc
01:19 < mnemoc> hi jsaw
01:23 < rxr> http://freshmeat.net/projects/t2/?branch_id=38672&release_id=182859
01:24 < mnemoc> *click*
01:26 < rxr> btw distrowatch is currentl our biggest hit producer
01:27 < rxr> far more than freshmeat - and symlink is far below freshmeat ...
01:28 < mnemoc> rxr: i see nothing about beta2 on freshmeat :)
01:28 < mnemoc> how are ISOs hits?
01:28 < rxr> yep - it takes some hours for their review ...
01:29 < rxr> the iso is only there (after I first rm'ed it) for some minutes ...
01:29 < rxr> so ...
01:30 < mnemoc> what do you think about a t2-announce@exactcode.de to make distrowatch and related site the life easier? :)
01:33 < jsaw> good job: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/holidays/4027215/detail.html
01:34 < rxr> well - I think we should just push the news and keep them cc'ed instead of relying that they keep subscribed ...
01:37 < jsaw> rxr: anything wrong with gmane?
01:37 < mnemoc> we can subscribe them :)
01:38 < rxr> mnemoc: yes, we could subscribe them ;-)
01:39 < rxr> jsaw: wht do you mean?
01:40 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5259 /trunk/package/network/dansguardian/ (dansguardian.conf dansguardian.desc):
01:40 < CIA-10> * updated dansguardian AV (4.2 -> 6.3.6)
01:40 < CIA-10> * improved dansguardian to not need hardcoded AV filename
01:40 < jsaw> rxr: try http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.t2.devel
01:40 < rxr> does not deliver data here ...
01:41 < jsaw> ...
01:41 < rxr> jsaw: have you posted my embedded C++ command line above?
01:41 < rxr> around 20:oo I think
01:41 < mnemoc> gmane subscribes to the list and does gateway
01:41 < jsaw> posted? where should I post them?
01:42 < rxr> have you read this should have read ...
01:43 < jsaw> ah. yes I did.
01:43 < jsaw> I got a bit nervous how much I should have read but did not...
01:45 < rxr> I think even if it coests a few kB we should produce nice to maintain and write C++ code instead of hacky C code to save a few bits ...
01:46 < rxr> Error GMANE-03252: Something is wrong. Perhaps something didn't match a group name. Perhaps something else.
01:46 < jsaw> I'm not yet convinced - but hey, let's do it and let me get convinced when I see it...
01:54 < jsaw> almost falling from my chair... g'night everybody
01:58 < mnemoc> http://news.gmane.org doesn't even answer here
01:59 < rxr> cu jsaw
01:59 * rxr just submitted osnews.com - maybe they pick us this time
02:01 < mnemoc> i hope so
02:02 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5260 /trunk/package/security/clamav/clamav.desc: * updated clamav (0.73 -> 0.80)
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02:08 < mnemoc> rxr: can i move libesmtp to network instead of gnome2?
02:12 < mnemoc> there is any way to push dependencies on priority analyser?
02:13 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5261 /trunk/package/gnome2/libesmtp/libesmtp.desc: * updated libesmtp (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
02:14 < mnemoc> e.g. dansguardian AV adds libesmtp and clamav as dependencies for dansguardian, but reference build will not see this
02:19 < rxr> mnemoc: if it has not gtk+ deps ...
02:20 < mnemoc> it has nothing to do with gtk, but balsa use it
02:21 < mnemoc> opt/gnome2/include/libesmtp.h <--- this is weird for a library that only wraps sendmail binary :)
02:24 < mnemoc> package/network or package/mail ?
02:26 < rxr> mybe even mail
02:26 < rxr> just choose what you see fits ...
02:26 < mnemoc> mail
02:26 < mnemoc> :)
02:28 < rxr> Error logs from default-2.1.0-beta3-x86-pentium-mmx-32-desktop-expert:
02:28 < rxr> [5] base/glibc [5] e17/efsd
02:28 < rxr> [5] e17/entrance [5] kde/kdebindings
02:28 < rxr> 1018 builds total, 573 completed fine, 4 with errors.
02:28 < rxr> ^- head
02:29 < mnemoc> 5# ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg full
02:29 < mnemoc> Error logs from full-2.1.0-beta3-x86-pentiumpro-32-generic-expert:
02:29 < mnemoc> [5] network/dansguardian
02:29 < mnemoc> 1347 builds total, 359 completed fine, 1 with errors.
02:29 < mnemoc> :)
02:37 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5262 /trunk/package/ (8 files in 2 dirs): * moved libesmtp to package/mail
02:42 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.195.155.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
02:42 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.exactcode.de/t2
02:42 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sun Dec 26 02:16:00 2004]
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02:43 < mnemoc> wb rxr :)
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02:45 < CIA-10> rene * r5264 /trunk/package/ (5 files in 5 dirs): * $taropt cleanup work (inspired from ROCK Linux submaster)
03:04 < CIA-10> rene * r5265 /trunk/package/ (8 files in 8 dirs): * even more $taropt fixes (as inspired from ROCK Linux submaster)
03:04 < CIA-10> rene * r5266 /trunk/package/graphic/gqview/gqview.desc: * updated gqview (1.2.2 -> 1.4.5)
03:05 * mnemoc wants to remove as much $archdir calls as possible in pro of `find_source_file`
03:06 < mnemoc> rxr: is [DEP] field of .desc used for anything?
03:06 < mnemoc> # grep -lR '$archdir' package/ | grep -v '.svn' | wc -l
03:06 < mnemoc> 75
03:14 < rxr> I do not like find in the name
03:14 < rxr> maybe match or so is nicer
03:15 < mnemoc> ok
03:15 < mnemoc> i like match_source_file
03:19 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5267 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * renamed function find_source_file to match_source_file
03:19 < mnemoc> rxr: can you please try to download ftp://ftp.itk.ru/pub/clip/patch.tgz for me?
03:20 < rxr> mnemoc: got it ...
03:20 < mnemoc> that easy?
03:20 < mnemoc> can you send it to me? please :(
03:21 < mnemoc> i can't even auth on that server :\
03:21 < rxr> wget grabbed it ...
03:21 < mnemoc> yes?
03:22 < mnemoc> ...
03:22 < mnemoc> Logging in as anonymous ...
03:23 < mnemoc> ...
03:23 < mnemoc> Error in server response, closing control connection.
03:23 < mnemoc> Retrying.
03:24 < rxr> sent it
03:25 < mnemoc> thanks :)
03:33 * mnemoc doesn't have enough machine to run three builds
03:34 < mnemoc> svn up
03:34 < mnemoc> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/t2/trunk'
03:34 < mnemoc> svn: PROPFIND of '/t2/trunk': Could not read status line: connection was closed by server. (http://svn.exactcode.de)
03:34 < mnemoc> uhm
03:35 < mnemoc> second try worked
03:39 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5268 /trunk/package/develop/clip/ (clip.desc getpatch.sh): * updated clip (1.1.13-1 -> 1.1.13-39)
03:46 < rxr> getpatch.sh ?
03:46 < mnemoc> a helper
03:46 < mnemoc> it converts patch.tgz into a versioned clip-patch file
03:47 < mnemoc> using some files inside the tarball
03:49 < rxr> aha
03:50 < rxr> btw. I would like to see a more lightweight match_source_tarball, like done in other packages like xemacs and xorg
03:50 < rxr> like:
03:50 < rxr> `echo $desc_D | tr ' ' '\n' | egrep X.*src-..tgz | \
03:50 < rxr> sed 's/gz/bz2/'`
03:50 < rxr> e.g. not grepping the wohle .desc file ...
03:50 < mnemoc> yes, but that only support package=$pkg
03:51 < mnemoc> but i could use that if no package is specified
03:51 < rxr> erhm
03:52 < rxr> I would not even think about supporting grepping in other packages .desc files
03:52 < mnemoc> and both methods call grep once
03:52 < rxr> this is a very big nodo and should never be done ...
03:52 < rxr> e.g. the package might not be downloaded and such
03:53 < rxr> if the package needs externa tarballs it should specify the matching ones in the .desc file - e.g. vnc does download a specifically matching version of xfree
03:53 < rxr> and only exactly the files needed ...
03:53 < rxr> btw. this one is failing:
03:53 < rxr> == 12/28/04 03:12:15 =[9]=> Aborted building package xfce4-mixer.
03:53 < rxr> due to patch not applying ...
03:53 < mnemoc> i'm not so sure if extender would not need to do something with a file downloaded by an extender
03:54 < mnemoc> i haven't tested xfce4 yet :\
03:54 < mnemoc> i had to restart my minimal-xfce4 from zero :(
03:55 < mnemoc> "file downloaded by an extendee..."
03:56 < CIA-10> rene * r5269 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfdesktop/xfdesktop.desc: * fixed xfdesktop priority to build after xfce4-panel
03:56 < mnemoc> do you see performance overhead on match_source_file or just feature overhead?
03:56 < rxr> hm - ok - that is a valid point ...
03:56 < rxr> feature overhead
03:57 < mnemoc> i tend to generalize too much
03:57 < rxr> svn up will fix a package in your xfce build ... ;-)
03:57 < mnemoc> thanks :)
03:57 < rxr> would be cool if you could fix the non-applying patch - removing would be fine with me ...
03:58 < mnemoc> disable it locally until i reach that point :)
04:07 < mnemoc> fixed :)
04:08 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5270 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-mixer/devfs.patch: * fixed xfce4-mixer's devfs.patch
04:19 < rxr> n8 all
04:20 < mnemoc> n8 rxr
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14:17 < mnemoc> moin!
14:23 < rxr> re
14:23 < rxr> moin mnemoc
14:25 < mnemoc> moin rxr
14:27 < rxr> ehm
14:27 < rxr> what is this "akibg wutg" in our freshmeat announcement?
14:27 < mnemoc> uhm?
14:28 < rxr> http://freshmeat.net/projects/t2/?branch_id=38672&release_id=182859
14:28 < rxr> I'm sure this is not from me ...
14:28 < rxr> have you read my text last night?
14:28 < rxr> was it in my version?
14:29 < mnemoc> http://freshmeat.net/releases/182859/
14:29 < mnemoc> "and F FreeType 2.1.7" <-- this is the only typo i see
14:30 < rxr> restructured so that ccache works more reliably, _akibg wutg_ general
14:31 < mnemoc> oh
14:34 < mnemoc> akibg <--- along shifted
14:39 < rxr> hm
14:41 < rxr> interesting
14:41 < rxr> I think it was not in my version ... :-(
14:41 < rxr> cu
14:51 < mnemoc> and wutg is with shifted
14:55 -!- mnemoc changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 2.1.0-beta2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.exactcode.de/t2
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15:27 < madtux> hola.
15:29 < daja77> hola miguel
15:29 < madtux> danny boy. :)
15:54 < mnemoc> moin mike, daja
16:01 < CIA-10> jsaw * r5271 /trunk/package/network/dbus/dbus.conf: * disable gtk-sharp extensions in dbus, ours seem to be too new
16:03 < mnemoc> jsaw: mono-doc and others also fail to build with gtk# 2, i think downgrading gtk# is safer
16:05 < mnemoc> the other exit is to move every gtk# dependent package to their develop branches
16:06 < jsaw> re
16:06 < jsaw> mnemoc: hmmm....
16:07 < mnemoc> or keep both, gtk# and gtk#2
16:09 < mnemoc> gtk-sharp and gtk-sharp2 seems to be the best way
16:10 < mnemoc> jsaw: comments?
16:11 < jsaw> If you think this will not hurt (I mean, the versions will coexits peacefully), then we should take both.
16:12 < mnemoc> if it hurts i drop gtk-sharp2
16:13 < jsaw> but then, don't you have to downgrad mono also?
16:13 < mnemoc> nope, both gtk#s build with mono1.1.
16:14 < mnemoc> that was tested
16:14 < jsaw> okay.
16:15 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5272 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp/gtk-sharp.desc: * downgraded gtk-sharp (1.90 -> 1.0.4)
16:17 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5273 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp2/ (. gtk-sharp.desc): * added gtk-sharp2 as a copy of old gtk-sharp
16:17 < madtux> why?
16:17 < madtux> scrolling back
16:17 < mnemoc> gtk-sharp2 is not backward compatible
16:18 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5274 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp2/ (6 files): * fixed gtk-sharp2 package names
16:19 < mnemoc> err... i should have commited gtk-sharp2 before downgrading gtk-sharp :\ ... now i'll have to update it
16:21 < CIA-10> jsaw * r5275 /trunk/package/network/dbus/dbus.conf: * revert r5271 duet to r5272++
16:31 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5276 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp2/gtk-sharp2.desc: * updated gtk-sharp2 (1.0.4 -> 1.9.1)
16:35 < mnemoc> jsaw: do you have an idea of how to re-introduce catogories to pkgsel?
16:39 < jsaw> eh...
16:40 < jsaw> what do you mean?
16:40 < mnemoc> X desktop/gnome2/core
16:41 < mnemoc> X desktop/gtk
16:41 < jsaw> oh... lemma think
16:41 < mnemoc> recursive of course ;P
16:41 < mnemoc> X desktop
16:41 < mnemoc> X desktop/gnome2
16:42 < jsaw> should work as is
16:42 < mnemoc> foo/* is hardcoded to detect repostories
16:43 < jsaw> did you try?
16:43 < mnemoc> no :p
16:43 < mnemoc> let's see
16:45 < jsaw> you have to use extra/ in front, I guess
16:45 < mnemoc> yes, due to current categorization
16:45 < mnemoc> which i hate :p
16:46 < jsaw> ehm well ... I do not really object...
16:46 < mnemoc> i don't like to have one concept splited in two different trees
16:47 < mnemoc> eg. desktop/gnome2 and extra/desktop/gnome2
16:47 < mnemoc> i would like to:
16:47 < mnemoc> X desktop/ <--- to add the whole desktop thing
16:47 < mnemoc> X desktop/gnome2 <--- to add the while gnome2 thing
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16:55 < mnemoc> re
16:55 < mnemoc> :(
16:55 < mnemoc> what was the last thing i said?
16:56 < madtux> 09:52 < mnemoc> X desktop/gnome2 <--- to add the while gnome2 thing
16:56 < mnemoc> oh
16:56 < mnemoc> X desktop/gtk/core <--- to add minimal gtk stuff
16:56 < mnemoc> X desktop/*/core <--- to add minimal stuff of all desktop enviroments
16:56 < mnemoc> something _usefull_ for package selection
16:56 < mnemoc> current is absolutly useless
16:56 < mnemoc> do you see any target using it?
16:57 < mnemoc> i think stuff like desktop/{x11,gtk.gnome2,kde,xfce}/{base,extra,thirdparty} is far more helpful
16:57 < mnemoc> X extra/desktop/* <--- this is working
16:58 < jsaw> Okay, adding the following to pkgsel_init should do it:
16:58 < jsaw> gsub("base/", "", $8); gsub("extra/", "", $8);
16:58 < jsaw> should do it.
16:58 < jsaw> ups.
16:59 < mnemoc> uhm?
16:59 < jsaw> this removes the "extra/" or "base/" prefix of the category column.
17:00 < jsaw> Then, desktop/... should match
17:00 < mnemoc> i didn't wanted that :\
17:00 < jsaw> then I do not understand you.
17:00 < mnemoc> 1) i want to recategorize
17:01 < mnemoc> 2) i want to improve pkgsel parser to allow recursion and stuff like foo/*/bar/ and foo/ for the whole tree
17:02 < jsaw> okay. 1) is long overdue, I think we all agree.
17:04 < mnemoc> if we can ommit the trailing / much better
17:04 < jsaw> but 2)? I don't exactly get what is not working.... ??? (probably it's too early in the morning for me ...)
17:05 < jsaw> mnemoc: that's not possible unless you add extra logic to identify a category
17:05 < jsaw> I think, that's something that has to wait until reimpl in C++ or so.
17:11 < rxr> re
17:14 < mnemoc> jsaw: foo/* doesn't select foo/bar/blah
17:14 < mnemoc> O -----5---- 147.900 gnome2 libglademm 2.4.1 / extra/desktop/gnome 0 <--- this for extra/*
17:14 * rxr at my parent's k62-500 or so ...
17:14 < jsaw> could you please send me this error in mail, I have to leave fast. I'll be back later.
17:14 < mnemoc> :)
17:14 < mnemoc> rxr: having fun?
17:15 < rxr> yeah
17:15 < rxr> fighting the nvidia binary driver
17:15 < jsaw> cu
17:15 < rxr> cu jsaw
17:15 < rxr> I'll complete replace the nvidia package junk we inherited from rock ...
17:15 < rxr> it is pure crap ...
17:16 < mnemoc> :)
17:17 < rxr> and does not even automate the kernel module buld ...
17:17 < rxr> if you wanna laugh a bit visit package/x11/nvidia ...
17:20 < mnemoc> let' see :)
17:20 < mnemoc> quite simple
17:20 < madtux> rxr: any known bugs on the beta2 isos?
17:21 < rxr> well more or less
17:21 < madtux> ...
17:21 < mnemoc> madtux: any reason to ask?
17:21 < rxr> maybe se roor password setting in stone is broken ...
17:21 < madtux> mnemoc: that will make me decide to either download them for a friend or not
17:21 < rxr> and the kdm session creator did not match to kde's current session stuff
17:22 < rxr> most is fine - only the tiny polishing before a major series we need to do ...
17:22 < madtux> okis
17:31 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5277 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfprint/xfprint.desc: * repriorized xfprint after xfce-mcs-manager
17:32 < madtux> mnemoc: did u actually updated to xfce4 without making a full build before?
17:32 < mnemoc> on trunk, yes
17:32 < mnemoc> xfce is not updated on beta2
17:33 < mnemoc> xfce4 will be updated and running on beta3
17:33 < madtux> very well.
17:34 < madtux> .oO( and _I_ was always screamed at when i submitted untested stuff :(
17:35 < mnemoc> madtux: when?
17:35 < mnemoc> trunk is alive, not frozen as rock's
17:35 < mnemoc> .oO( daja will kill me )o
17:38 < mnemoc> Error logs from mini-xfce-2.1.0-beta3-x86-pentium-mmx-32-generic-expert:
17:38 < mnemoc> 174 builds total, 161 completed fine, 0 with errors.
17:38 < rxr> mnemoc: why will daja kill you?
17:38 < mnemoc> because i /bashed/ rock
17:40 < rxr> *lol*
17:40 < rxr> rock trunk is not really froyen
17:41 < rxr> frozen even ...
17:41 < rxr> ever week some ice crusher is driving thru the frozen see ...
17:41 < mnemoc> :D
17:42 < mnemoc> yes, clifford is fighting hard to keep it navegable
17:42 < rxr> so, let's see if my nvidia postlinux.conf works out ...
17:42 < rxr> navegable, what?
17:43 < mnemoc> the frozen see :)
17:43 < rxr> :-)
17:43 < rxr> me a bit away
17:47 < mnemoc> madtux: i'll have mini-xfce4 (4.2-rc3) in less than an hour if everything goes as now
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18:05 * daja77 not in killing mood
18:08 < mnemoc> :D
18:08 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5278 /trunk/package/xfce4/ (5 files in 3 dirs): * relocated .conf files into their right packages (xfce4-appfinder and xfce4-icon-theme)
18:08 * mnemoc is safe for now then
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18:14 < c4y0> hi
18:15 < mnemoc> hi c4y0
18:16 < mnemoc> Error logs from mini-xfce-2.1.0-beta3-x86-pentium-mmx-32-generic-expert:
18:16 < mnemoc> 174 builds total, 174 completed fine, 0 with errors.
18:16 < mnemoc> nice
18:34 < rxr> yep
18:34 < rxr> do you use that often?
18:34 < rxr> the target I mean
18:35 < rxr> we need some independant t2 based products that have independent releases and user groups and such, to hype t2 ..
18:37 < mnemoc> distributions "powered by t2"
18:38 < rxr> yep
18:38 < mnemoc> that was a test build, but i want my mnemosyne-desktop office centered using xfce
18:38 < mnemoc> mnemocyne-office can be more ad-hoc
18:38 < mnemoc> mnemosyne*
18:42 < mnemoc> i'll install that mini-xfce right after my bootdisk finishes to build
18:43 < mnemoc> http install because that machine has no cd drive
18:45 < mnemoc> i'm convised that a good categorization which allows tunned pkgsels with a few rules will trigger a lot of sub-distributions
18:46 < mnemoc> tuned*
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19:01 * mnemoc sueña con un pkgsel similar a esto:
19:01 < mnemoc> X base/core
19:01 < mnemoc> X network/base
19:01 < mnemoc> X desktop/x11/base
19:01 < mnemoc> X desktop/gtk/base
19:01 < mnemoc> X desktop/xfce4
19:01 < mnemoc> X apps/office
19:01 < mnemoc> X firefox
19:01 < mnemoc> X thunderbird
19:02 < rxr> apps/office might already include far too much ...
19:02 < mnemoc> apps/office/foo
19:03 < rxr> I think a very good dependency reolver and support will boost t2 ...
19:03 < rxr> feel free to post an in-depth review of a new category scheme to the list
19:03 < mnemoc> but currently we are unable to distinguish strongness of dependensies
19:04 < rxr> yes ...
19:06 < mnemoc> /usr/src/building/t2/test/build/boot-2.1.0-beta3-x86-pentium-mmx-32-bootdisk-expert/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/crosscc/../lib/gcc/i586-unknown-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../i586-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
19:06 < mnemoc> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
19:06 < mnemoc> *** The command 'i586-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c' failed.
19:06 < mnemoc> *** You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler.
19:07 < mnemoc> No 1-binutils.log file.
19:07 < mnemoc> uhm
19:07 < mnemoc> how can i miss crt1.o??!
19:09 < rxr> no idea
19:09 < rxr> what kind of build is that?
19:09 < daja77> what target arch?
19:10 < mnemoc> boot/pmmx
19:10 < rxr> hm
19:10 < rxr> I try, too ...
19:10 < daja77> i saw that in an hppa crossbuild once ...
19:13 < rxr> mnemoc: is this a dietlibc linked package?
19:13 < rxr> hm - no binutils ...
19:13 < mnemoc> 1-bintuils?
19:14 < rxr> hm - let's see what I get
19:14 < mnemoc> i have the verbose output if you see something i missed
19:17 < mnemoc> /usr/src/building/t2/test/build/boot-2.1.0-beta3-x86-pentium-mmx-32-bootdisk-expert/usr/lib/crt1.o
19:17 < mnemoc> /usr/src/building/t2/test/build/boot-2.1.0-beta3-x86-pentium-mmx-32-bootdisk-expert/usr/i586-unknown-linux-gnu/lib/crt1.o
19:18 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/1-binutils.err-v
19:22 < mnemoc> shouldn't i have a crt1.o inside TOOLCHAIN?
19:24 * mnemoc starting a fresh 'boot2' build
19:28 < rxr> no it should not be inside TOOLCHAIN after my last cleenup round IIRC
19:28 < mnemoc> so bintuils is just looking on the wrong place
19:29 < mnemoc> ld*
19:44 -!- rbarnich [~rbarnich@pcp04150125pcs.sanarb01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #t2
19:59 < rxr> hi rbarnich
20:01 [Users #t2]
20:01 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ jsaw ] [ rbarnich] [ sparc-kly]
20:01 [ CIA-10 ] [ ideal ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ valentin ]
20:01 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 10 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal]
20:02 < CIA-10> rene * r5279 /trunk/package/base/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
20:02 < CIA-10> * added the nvidia alias to the two linux module packages (was in some
20:02 < CIA-10> hidden "to be executed by the user install script" previously)
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20:09 < jsaw> re
20:09 < rxr> hi jsaw
20:10 < mnemoc> hi jsaw
20:10 < jsaw> mnemoc: the missing crt1.o usually happens after one or two files from stage 0 or 1 are rebuild. remove all 2-* and it should be fine
20:10 < jsaw> hi rxr, mnemoc
20:10 < mnemoc> jsaw: aha... thanks
20:10 < mnemoc> jsaw: we need a FAQ :)
20:14 < jsaw> dinner came faster than I thought, brb
20:15 < rxr> good point
20:15 < CIA-10> rene * r5280 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia/ (install.sh makeinst-fix.patch nvidia.conf nvidia.desc): (log message trimmed)
20:15 < CIA-10> * redone the nvidia package. Previously it just extracted the flies into
20:15 < CIA-10> /usr/src/nv and relied on the user hacking on it. Now it installs the
20:15 < CIA-10> files that can always be installed, and only places the "alternative"
20:15 < CIA-10> nvidia libGL* and co stuff into /usr/src/nv for later deployment. The
20:16 < CIA-10> postlinux.conf, which will sanely build he kernel module for any
20:16 < CIA-10> kernel, is done - but under testing. To be committed as soon as the
20:16 < rxr> mnemoc: have you som FAQ points? I'm open to inject it into the homepage
20:16 < rxr> cu jsaw
20:16 < mnemoc> rxr: i love wikis :)
20:16 < rxr> yeah - I love CMS - just that it needs time to set one up ...
20:17 < rxr> I love verbose commit messages :-)
20:17 < mnemoc> :)
20:17 < mnemoc> rxr: wikis are fast to set up :)
20:22 < rxr> well, ...
20:22 < rxr> for now a FAQ text would be a nice start
20:23 < rxr> brb
20:23 < mnemoc> Documentation/FAQ ?
20:27 < CIA-10> miguel * r5281 /trunk/package/x86/syslinux/syslinux.desc: * Updated syslinux (2.11 > 2.13)
20:28 < CIA-10> miguel * r5282 /trunk/target/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * Updated syslinux for all the targets (2.11 > 2.13)
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20:29 < madtux> re.
20:29 < mnemoc> madtux: :D
20:30 < madtux> mnemoc: ?
20:30 < madtux> :)
20:30 < mnemoc> agradable verte commiteando
20:31 < madtux> "This is just the begging" :)
20:31 < madtux> beggining*
20:31 < mnemoc> =)
20:31 < mnemoc> madtux: N0VAK debe ser convertido
20:31 < madtux> mnemoc: ... we are at #t2
20:32 < mnemoc> madtux: N0VAK must be converted :p
20:32 < madtux> ok now wtf is him? :)
20:33 < mnemoc> a guy from 'la granja'
20:34 < madtux> oh..
20:34 < madtux> how may i help?
20:34 < madtux> is he worth the try? :)
20:34 < mnemoc> selling t2? :)
20:34 < mnemoc> madtux: he has a compatible /project/, hardware and interest
20:35 < madtux> i see...
20:35 < madtux> i must get to know him and the project better
20:37 -!- N0V4K [~N0V4K@246.Red-80-33-149.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #t2
20:37 < N0V4K> hello
20:38 < mnemoc> hi busy-N0V4K
20:39 < N0V4K> mnemoc, hi
20:39 < N0V4K> sparc-kly, hi :P
20:42 < rxr> hi N0V4K
20:43 < N0V4K> rxr, hi
20:44 < rxr> ouhm the k6 is slow ...
20:44 < rxr> == 17:51:40 =[9]=> Building base/linux26 [2.6.10 2.1.0-beta3].
20:45 < rxr> and now it is 20:53:37 and still building
20:46 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5283 /trunk/package/base/sysvinit/no_init.diff: * fixed sysvinit optional patch to not install init and runlevel
20:53 < madtux> bienvenido N0V4K
20:56 < mnemoc> madtux: do you want to add "subdistribution info" on Config and loaders :) name, url and url for updating binaries?
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21:00 < mipe> found couple of "bugs" after i installed beta2,anyone around?
21:01 < mnemoc> mipe: sure, shoot
21:02 < mipe> default.vcfont and default.keymap has wrong symlink,after install. stone? it was /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386....
21:04 < mipe> it would be correct one. if the /usr/share/kbd/ wasnt there
21:04 < mipe> in front of it
21:05 < mnemoc> yes.... /me looking into it
21:05 < mipe> and i cant get nvidia drivers to get installed
21:06 < mnemoc> mipe: rene just rewrote nvidia package
21:06 < mipe> i get Compiling kernel module ..
21:06 < mipe> Unable to determine kernel version.
21:06 < mipe> make: *** [select_makefile] Error 1
21:07 < mnemoc> mipe: tell /him/ your kernel source is on /usr
21:12 < mipe> tomorrow i'll start that amd64 build. have to go soon. but how can i help you on t2 development other than "heavy" testing? :)
21:12 < madtux> mnemoc: subdist info... on Config? ... what's the sence of it.. tell me more
21:12 < mnemoc> mipe: going into trunk and sending patches :)
21:12 < madtux> mnemoc: do u have any clue of why are we disabling rmt on cpio ?
21:12 < mnemoc> madtux: naming subdistros
21:12 < mnemoc> madtux: nope
21:13 < madtux> the patch is no longer usefull or portable to cpio 2.6..
21:13 < mnemoc> rxr: mnemoc: do u have any clue of why are we disabling rmt on cpio ?
21:14 < mnemoc> madtux: i guess it was broken on some moment of the history :)
21:14 < madtux> cpio builds and works fine without the patch
21:14 < madtux> at least the new version ;)
21:15 < mnemoc> madtux: follow your instincts :)
21:15 < mnemoc> madtux: good patches need a 'reason' on top
21:15 < madtux> did u follow ur instincts when u did the untested-xfce4 thing ?
21:16 < mnemoc> madtux: yes, and the day after the update xfce4.2-rc3 was perfectly building
21:16 < madtux> ok :P
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21:16 < N0V4K> madtux, buenas
21:17 < madtux> N0V4K: como le va?
21:17 < mnemoc> export LANG=en
21:17 < N0V4K> bien a ki que me meto mnemoc y me pico el gusanillo de esto
21:17 < N0V4K> *metio
21:18 < mnemoc> N0V4K: T2 is your road :)
21:21 < mnemoc> mipe: i can't found the problem on default.{vcfont,keymap} generation, i'll have to try on a running machine
21:25 < CIA-10> miguel * r5284 /trunk/package/archiver/cpio/ (cpio.desc no_rmt.patch): * Updated cpio (2.5 > 2.6) and removed no_rmt.patch as no longer needed
21:26 < madtux> mnemoc: ... 14:21 -!- mipe [~mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["tomorrow"]
21:26 < CIA-10> miguel * r5285 /trunk/package/archiver/ucl/ucl.desc: * Updated ucl (1.01 > 1.03)
21:26 < mnemoc> :(
21:28 < madtux> N0V4K: tu hablas ingles?
21:33 < rxr> hm - still building
21:33 < mnemoc> linux26?
21:34 < rxr> yep
21:36 < rxr> mnemoc: I can look into the kbd problem - noticed it on this k6 box, too
21:36 < madtux> mnemoc: now he knows what u used to feel
21:36 < rxr> yes, the nvidia package was a joke ...
21:36 < rxr> in future versions of t2 the linux* packages will include a prebuilt kernel config matching nvidia moduls (for those who need it ...)
21:37 < madtux> rxr, mnemoc what is stoping us to update mine ?
21:38 < mnemoc> madtux: we are waiting you for reviewing the code changes to see if something hardcoded can fail on t2!
21:39 < madtux> grrml.......'\
21:39 < daja77> :D
21:40 < mnemoc> rxr: ok
21:47 < N0V4K> madtux, mas o menos
21:47 < N0V4K> my inglish not beary whell
21:47 < mnemoc> uhm
21:48 < madtux> ph34r.
21:48 < N0V4K> ;)
21:54 < jsaw> re
21:54 < mnemoc> hi jsaw
21:54 < jsaw> hi mnemoc
21:58 < sparc-kly> hi rxr mnemoc madtux jsaw .lol
21:59 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: you will have to translate to N0V4K :)
21:59 < sparc-kly> you are crazy . :P
21:59 < mnemoc> brb
22:00 < sparc-kly> t2 in distrowatch
22:00 < sparc-kly> humm
22:00 < madtux> sparc-kly: hispanic too?
22:00 < N0V4K> xD
22:00 < madtux> latin domination! :)
22:00 < N0V4K> sparc-kly, You like se my personal translate
22:00 < N0V4K> xD
22:01 < N0V4K> madtux, YEAH!
22:01 < sparc-kly> madtux you are from ?
22:01 < madtux> sparc-kly: costa rica..
22:01 < N0V4K> wow costa rica
22:01 < sparc-kly> ahh . Puerto rico here
22:01 < N0V4K> sparc-kly, sux :P
22:01 < madtux> N0V4K: ?
22:01 < sparc-kly> ?
22:01 < N0V4K> EStoy de broma
22:01 < madtux> sparc-kly: i used to have a girlfriend in PR
22:02 < madtux> N0V4K: "I'm joking"
22:02 < N0V4K> In the TV look at Starwars 1
22:02 < madtux> Episode III comming soon
22:02 < N0V4K> yes
22:02 < sparc-kly> puertoricans girls :D good tits and perfect ass .
22:02 < N0V4K> sparc-kly, nonono the spanish girls the best
22:02 < madtux> sparc-kly: u obviously have never been to clombia, venezuela or brasil
22:03 < madtux> :)
22:03 < sparc-kly> lol
22:03 < N0V4K> aaaaaa and ITALIAN
22:03 < madtux> :)
22:03 < madtux> spanish folks..
22:03 < N0V4K> :(
22:03 < madtux> :P
22:04 < N0V4K> :_/
22:04 < sparc-kly> germans girls MmmMm
22:04 < madtux> actually spanish girls are sexy too
22:04 < jsaw> ...
22:04 < N0V4K> mmm
22:04 < madtux> german babes are awesome in bed.
22:04 < madtux> :)
22:04 < N0V4K> xD
22:04 < madtux> talking costa rican girls..
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22:05 < madtux> jsaw: i told my cousing u were asking about her
22:05 < N0V4K> sparc-kly|AMD, XD
22:05 < jsaw> madtux: ohoh...
22:05 < madtux> jsaw: she asked for pics and if you were thinking on comming over
22:06 < madtux> :)
22:06 < N0V4K> madtux, do you like BSD?
22:06 < madtux> N0V4K: 1/2 bit.. its been a while since my last contact with it
22:06 < N0V4K> :S
22:07 < madtux> N0V4K: why?
22:11 < madtux> ..
22:18 < jsaw> madtux: I'll hide now...
22:18 < madtux> jsaw: no need to
22:18 < madtux> :)
22:18 < jsaw> :)
22:19 < madtux> ok so i rested enough.. time to go back to building, updating, and fixing selinux and router
22:23 < mnemoc> re
22:24 < madtux> wb
22:25 < rxr> re
22:26 < CIA-10> jsaw * r5286 /trunk/package/x11/freetype/freetype.desc: * update freetype (2.1.7 -> 2.1.9)
22:26 < rxr> madtux: what do you know about german girls in bed?
22:26 < rxr> jsaw: no!
22:26 < rxr> jsaw: please revert
22:26 < jsaw> why?
22:26 < rxr> I did it - it breaks mozill based stuff
22:27 < rxr> .9 is horrible broken ..
22:27 < rxr> consult mozilla bugzilla and others ...
22:27 < rxr> I shoud mark stuff we already reverted in the future
22:27 < jsaw> why is there no note in the .desc file????
22:27 < madtux> rxr: today i will make a crossbuild to then put the stuff on my ultra and see how far i can get building minimal on it
22:27 < mnemoc> jsaw: good question :)
22:28 < madtux> rxr: i've know a few german girls visiting .cr ..
22:29 < rxr> madtux: ahso - ic ... ;-)
22:29 < CIA-10> jsaw * r5287 /trunk/package/x11/freetype/freetype.desc: * revert freetype update and add a note that 2.1.9 is broken
22:29 < rxr> ;-) - thanks
22:29 < madtux> rxr: there was a time when i wasn't a good christian boy :)
22:29 < mnemoc> religion is bad for health :)
22:30 < jsaw> madtux: and now you are?
22:30 < mnemoc> he had to became one to catch his girl :)
22:30 < jsaw> aha
22:32 < madtux> :)
22:33 < madtux> i'm a nice and quite guy now whom just enjoys life coding, and making his own meals.. and reading techy books
22:33 < mnemoc> jsaw: e17/efsd is weird, Makefile.in is not created with autogen=1
22:33 < madtux> and obviously spending time with his lady watching dvd's
22:33 < madtux> :)
22:34 < mnemoc> national geographic and discovery channel DVDs :)
22:34 < jsaw> mnemoc: does it call the accompanied autogen.sh or the builtin
22:34 < madtux> mnemoc: actually she likes the lilo and stitch, finding nemo kind of stuff..
22:34 < mnemoc> jsaw: uhm... i guess broken? accompanied
22:35 < madtux> i'm more into comedy, action, and vampire realted movies
22:35 < mnemoc> madtux: i have those :) but my dvd player is broken so i have to watch barney's vhs-es
22:36 < madtux> mnemoc: fix it!
22:36 * mnemoc imagines madtux watching zombie movies hidden from his girl
22:36 < jsaw> mnemoc: no, the builtin is broken
22:36 < mnemoc> jsaw: oh
22:36 < madtux> mnemoc: she likes then too as long as i don't go away from her side untill she falls asleep
22:36 < madtux> :)
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22:37 < mnemoc> madtux: :D
22:37 < mnemoc> /TOOLCHAIN/src.groff.1104269573.22423.7f0100/groff-1.19.1/src/roff/groff/groff: pic: Signal 11
22:37 < mnemoc> :0: macro error: diversion open while ejecting page (recovering)
22:37 < mnemoc> make[2]: *** [pic.ps] Error 2
22:37 < mnemoc> uhm
22:38 < jsaw> ?
22:38 < madtux> 0_o
22:39 < mnemoc> according to blindy's rockdoc i'm overoptimizing it
22:39 < rxr> *lol*
22:40 < mnemoc> he was my first match on google :)
22:40 < mnemoc> uhm, /me talking to hannes on the second match
22:40 < mnemoc> http://www.rocklinux.net/irclog/rocklinux.log.20041203
22:40 < madtux> can u actually "overoptimize" something?
22:41 < mnemoc> wasn't that due to over-optimizing groff?
22:41 < madtux> 0_o ..
22:41 < mnemoc> you may need to do a .conf hack to disable / reduce opt for a single package
22:41 < madtux> so how do u "under-optimize" it?
22:42 < madtux> i see
22:42 < mnemoc> SteffenP: var_remove GCC3_WRAPPER_INSERT '-march=[^ ]*'
22:42 < mnemoc> o_O
22:42 < mnemoc> this was weird
22:44 < madtux> mnemoc: why do u always get most extrange problems?
22:44 < madtux> strange even
22:44 < jsaw> brb
22:46 < mnemoc> madtux: the weirdest is to find yourself solving the problem on google
22:53 < madtux> lol
22:55 < mnemoc> worked :\
22:55 < madtux> *LOL*
22:55 < mnemoc> rxr: should i commit? do you see evilness on removing -march ?
22:55 < rxr> yes
22:55 < rxr> evil ..
22:55 < rxr> we should really fix it ..
22:57 < mnemoc> do you want the build dir? :)
22:57 < rxr> not really - I already have so much on my todo ..
22:57 < mnemoc> commit with a #FIXME: flag?
22:58 < rxr> ok ok - do so ;-)
22:58 < madtux> Fix it before commit?
22:58 < madtux> :)
22:58 < mnemoc> madtux: i have no idea how to _really_ fix it
22:58 < rxr> .oO(how to convince me to commit hacks: "So you fix it?")
22:58 < rxr> mnemoc: anayze / debug the source
22:58 < mnemoc> :p
22:59 < rxr> mnemoc: it is either a real bug in the source that only shows up under high optmization or a gcc but misoptimizing
22:59 < mnemoc> sure :)
23:03 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5288 /trunk/package/base/groff/groff.conf: * hacked groff to build for p4 (overoptimized??)
23:05 < rxr> btw - hail to binary only rap
23:05 < rxr> crap even
23:05 < rxr> the latest nvidia invarnation does only produce junk on my parents Nvidia TNT card ...
23:05 < mnemoc> outch
23:06 < madtux> hail..
23:06 < madtux> :)
23:11 < jsaw> re
23:11 < mnemoc> hi jsaw
23:17 < CIA-10> rene * r5289 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia/ (nvidia.conf postlinux.conf):
23:17 < CIA-10> * the promissed nvidia/postlinux.conf as well as some normal package
23:17 < CIA-10> build tweaks
23:17 < jsaw> mnemoc: is this your problem: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15617
23:18 < mnemoc> jsaw yes
23:18 < jsaw> so, fall back to pentium3 - I'd suggest
23:18 < madtux> jsaw: hehe i just missread what u said.. nut it seemed funny
23:19 < madtux> "mnemoc is the problem"
23:19 * madtux hides
23:19 < jsaw> :)
23:19 < mnemoc> Not fixed.
23:19 < mnemoc> We still crash at the same position.
23:19 < CIA-10> rene * r5290 /trunk/package/shells/bash/ (17 files):
23:19 < CIA-10> * added the 16 (... !) official bash patches in the hope they fix the
23:19 < CIA-10> seg-fault problems during ./debug.sh ...
23:19 < jsaw> Freudian mis-reading... hm, madtux...
23:19 < mnemoc> :)
23:19 < jsaw> rxr: you are crazy!
23:20 < rxr> jsaw: why?
23:20 < mnemoc> jsaw: fall back the whole build just for pentium3?
23:20 < madtux> jsaw: and u realize of that untill no?
23:20 < madtux> now*
23:20 < jsaw> rxr: adding 16 patches
23:20 < madtux> jsaw: i though u knew rxr for years already
23:20 < mnemoc> jsaw: fall back the whole build just for groff?*
23:20 < jsaw> mnemoc: no, just for groff, s/arch=pentium3/arch=pentium4/
23:20 < rxr> jsaw: I'm not the bash mantainer - if those people can not do proper releases it is not my problem ...
23:21 < mnemoc> jsaw: oh, yes :)
23:21 < jsaw> madtux: actually you are right, I know rxr quite some time...
23:21 < jsaw> rxr: no excuses here, it's crazy. full stop.
23:21 < jsaw> :D
23:23 < madtux> http://www.google.com/press/zeitgeist2004/index.html
23:24 < jsaw> mnemoc: could you please read the full bugzilla page. Maybe the thing with -mpreferred-stack-boundary=128 works. If so, we should enable it globally.
23:24 < jsaw> read and test - I should've said ;)
23:25 < madtux> and fix?
23:25 < madtux> :)
23:29 < mnemoc> madtux: no, just read and test :)
23:29 < madtux> but but! :(
23:29 < rxr> jsaw: what should I do? merge them into one file? or add 16 download URLs_
23:29 < rxr> ? even
23:30 < rxr> me shortly off
23:32 < jsaw> rxr: no, just kick 'em
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23:43 < CIA-10> jeru * r5291 /trunk/package/develop/docutils/docutils.desc: * updated docutils (0.3.5 -> 0.3.7)
23:45 < CIA-10> jeru * r5292 /trunk/package/python/pysqlite/pysqlite.desc: * updated pysqlite (1.1.3 -> 1.1.6)
23:48 < madtux> who is jeru?
23:49 < mnemoc> a friend of rene
23:49 < madtux> is he ever on irc?
23:50 < mnemoc> at least not as jeru
23:50 < madtux> brb
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23:52 < rxr> re
23:52 < rxr> mnemoc: he is not such a close "freind" of me ...
23:53 < rxr> when he joined t2 i did not know him - he just accidently comes out of berlin and we phoned two times so far ...
23:53 < rxr> t2 is not a project for everyone living in berlin or so ... ;-)
23:54 < rxr> jsaw: the patches do not fix the seg-fault problem
23:54 < rxr> I'll build bash with debugging symbols now and try to track it
23:54 < rxr> because the damn seg-faults annoy the hell out of me ...
23:55 < jsaw> rxr: make a new pot of tea, or have some pot, or whatever - but relax before you start debugging...
23:55 < jsaw> ;)
23:56 < rxr> i'm right now ...
23:56 < rxr> and I have a pot of tee on the table ...
23:56 < rxr> but the problem needs a fix
23:56 < rxr> I endure it for several months already and I can not see the bash segfaults anymore ...
23:56 < jsaw> yeah - I know. That's the problem.
23:58 < rxr> jsaw: I do not understand what problem you see ... ? ;-)
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00:09 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5256 /trunk/scripts/functions: * implemented helper find_source_file which returns downloaded file form packages using a pattern
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00:36 < madtux> tr
00:36 < madtux> re*
00:39 < daja77> hi madtux
00:40 < madtux> hello Dany Boy
00:42 * daja77 running monkey island 2 atm
00:44 < madtux> daja77: BTW... yeah there are pics of me wearing glasses now..
00:44 < madtux> daja77: have a look:
00:44 < madtux> http://mike.hsol.net/gallery/xmas2004/P1010088
00:45 < daja77> hehe, an olympus cam?
00:45 < madtux> can u tell?
00:46 < madtux> daja77: and my wife... http://mike.hsol.net/gallery/xmas2004/P1010043
00:46 < madtux> yeah she likes puppies..
00:48 < daja77> saw that p images from an olympus cam
00:48 < madtux> ah :)
00:49 < madtux> ah well i'm getting used to the glasses... but it stresses me a bit sometiumes
00:49 < daja77> <- has glasses too
00:54 < madtux> yeah you do..
00:54 < madtux> damn nerd..
00:54 < madtux> :P
00:55 < madtux> nah but glasses look good on u
00:55 < daja77> :p
00:58 < jsaw> re
00:58 < rxr> hi all
00:59 < madtux> i still don't get used to it..
00:59 < madtux> wb jsaw
00:59 < madtux> hi rxr
01:00 * jsaw wears -oo- also
01:00 < madtux> ok i don't feel so weird now
01:00 < madtux> :)
01:01 < jsaw> far or near sighted?
01:01 < rxr> http://www.exactcode.de/t2/download.html
01:02 < rxr> binary ISO link ...
01:05 < CIA-10> rene * r5257 /trunk/package/multimedia/avifile/avifile.conf: * removed LD_LIBRARY_PATH hack from avifile
01:05 < jsaw> mnemoc: is the horse yours?
01:05 < jsaw> I meant madtux...
01:06 < jsaw> madtux: is the horse yours?
01:06 < madtux> jsaw: it belongs to my uncle
01:06 < madtux> its been years since i don't own anything bigger than a dog
01:06 < madtux> :)
01:06 < CIA-10> rene * r5258 /trunk/package/gnome2/glib/gnome-2.conf: * removed --rpath, LDFLAGS hack from the gnome packages
01:06 < jsaw> madtux: hehe
01:07 < jsaw> madtux: who's P1010080?
01:08 < madtux> jsaw: my cousin hellen
01:08 < jsaw> "burn your fingers" (I'd add)
01:08 < rxr> seems I should relocate ... with so pretty womans over there ;-)
01:09 < madtux> hehe
01:09 < madtux> rxr: i have asked you to come visit i forgot how many times already... u are the one missing it
01:10 < jsaw> madtux: hope, this guy (who?) is on linux: P1010010.JPG
01:10 < madtux> :)
01:10 < rxr> yeah - no money ... no time ...
01:10 < madtux> jsaw: this is my uncle and yes he's powered by Linux
01:11 < jsaw> *yeah*
01:11 < madtux> pretty much a newbie but he is out of the dark side
01:11 < jsaw> she's got a few stories to tell: P1010067.JPG
01:11 < madtux> rxr: yeah money can be a problem
01:11 < madtux> yup some :)
01:12 < jsaw> there not so many old ppl that have such kind of warm faces (and still look like you could steal horses with them).
01:13 < madtux> hehe
01:13 * rxr does freshmeaet now ..
01:13 < madtux> rxr: und ditrowatch ?
01:13 < jsaw> go rxr go
01:13 < rxr> jsaw: do you wanna do symlink ?
01:13 < rxr> madtux: we are already on it ...
01:13 < madtux> oh ja..
01:13 < rxr> a bit too early even - my binay CD was not yet synced ...
01:14 < madtux> schei...
01:14 < jsaw> rxr: I can do it later when I'm home.
01:14 < rxr> ok
01:15 < madtux> very well gentlemen
01:15 < madtux> here is where i say good night
01:16 < jsaw> buenas noches, madtux
01:17 < madtux> buenas noches "jorge"
01:17 < jsaw> :)
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01:18 < mnemoc> re
01:19 < jsaw> hi mnemoc
01:19 < mnemoc> hi jsaw
01:23 < rxr> http://freshmeat.net/projects/t2/?branch_id=38672&release_id=182859
01:24 < mnemoc> *click*
01:26 < rxr> btw distrowatch is currentl our biggest hit producer
01:27 < rxr> far more than freshmeat - and symlink is far below freshmeat ...
01:28 < mnemoc> rxr: i see nothing about beta2 on freshmeat :)
01:28 < mnemoc> how are ISOs hits?
01:28 < rxr> yep - it takes some hours for their review ...
01:29 < rxr> the iso is only there (after I first rm'ed it) for some minutes ...
01:29 < rxr> so ...
01:30 < mnemoc> what do you think about a t2-announce@exactcode.de to make distrowatch and related site the life easier? :)
01:33 < jsaw> good job: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/holidays/4027215/detail.html
01:34 < rxr> well - I think we should just push the news and keep them cc'ed instead of relying that they keep subscribed ...
01:37 < jsaw> rxr: anything wrong with gmane?
01:37 < mnemoc> we can subscribe them :)
01:38 < rxr> mnemoc: yes, we could subscribe them ;-)
01:39 < rxr> jsaw: wht do you mean?
01:40 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5259 /trunk/package/network/dansguardian/ (dansguardian.conf dansguardian.desc):
01:40 < CIA-10> * updated dansguardian AV (4.2 -> 6.3.6)
01:40 < CIA-10> * improved dansguardian to not need hardcoded AV filename
01:40 < jsaw> rxr: try http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.t2.devel
01:40 < rxr> does not deliver data here ...
01:41 < jsaw> ...
01:41 < rxr> jsaw: have you posted my embedded C++ command line above?
01:41 < rxr> around 20:oo I think
01:41 < mnemoc> gmane subscribes to the list and does gateway
01:41 < jsaw> posted? where should I post them?
01:42 < rxr> have you read this should have read ...
01:43 < jsaw> ah. yes I did.
01:43 < jsaw> I got a bit nervous how much I should have read but did not...
01:45 < rxr> I think even if it coests a few kB we should produce nice to maintain and write C++ code instead of hacky C code to save a few bits ...
01:46 < rxr> Error GMANE-03252: Something is wrong. Perhaps something didn't match a group name. Perhaps something else.
01:46 < jsaw> I'm not yet convinced - but hey, let's do it and let me get convinced when I see it...
01:54 < jsaw> almost falling from my chair... g'night everybody
01:58 < mnemoc> http://news.gmane.org doesn't even answer here
01:59 < rxr> cu jsaw
01:59 * rxr just submitted osnews.com - maybe they pick us this time
02:01 < mnemoc> i hope so
02:02 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5260 /trunk/package/security/clamav/clamav.desc: * updated clamav (0.73 -> 0.80)
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02:08 < mnemoc> rxr: can i move libesmtp to network instead of gnome2?
02:12 < mnemoc> there is any way to push dependencies on priority analyser?
02:13 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5261 /trunk/package/gnome2/libesmtp/libesmtp.desc: * updated libesmtp (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
02:14 < mnemoc> e.g. dansguardian AV adds libesmtp and clamav as dependencies for dansguardian, but reference build will not see this
02:19 < rxr> mnemoc: if it has not gtk+ deps ...
02:20 < mnemoc> it has nothing to do with gtk, but balsa use it
02:21 < mnemoc> opt/gnome2/include/libesmtp.h <--- this is weird for a library that only wraps sendmail binary :)
02:24 < mnemoc> package/network or package/mail ?
02:26 < rxr> mybe even mail
02:26 < rxr> just choose what you see fits ...
02:26 < mnemoc> mail
02:26 < mnemoc> :)
02:28 < rxr> Error logs from default-2.1.0-beta3-x86-pentium-mmx-32-desktop-expert:
02:28 < rxr> [5] base/glibc [5] e17/efsd
02:28 < rxr> [5] e17/entrance [5] kde/kdebindings
02:28 < rxr> 1018 builds total, 573 completed fine, 4 with errors.
02:28 < rxr> ^- head
02:29 < mnemoc> 5# ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg full
02:29 < mnemoc> Error logs from full-2.1.0-beta3-x86-pentiumpro-32-generic-expert:
02:29 < mnemoc> [5] network/dansguardian
02:29 < mnemoc> 1347 builds total, 359 completed fine, 1 with errors.
02:29 < mnemoc> :)
02:37 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5262 /trunk/package/ (8 files in 2 dirs): * moved libesmtp to package/mail
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02:43 < mnemoc> wb rxr :)
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02:45 < CIA-10> rene * r5264 /trunk/package/ (5 files in 5 dirs): * $taropt cleanup work (inspired from ROCK Linux submaster)
03:04 < CIA-10> rene * r5265 /trunk/package/ (8 files in 8 dirs): * even more $taropt fixes (as inspired from ROCK Linux submaster)
03:04 < CIA-10> rene * r5266 /trunk/package/graphic/gqview/gqview.desc: * updated gqview (1.2.2 -> 1.4.5)
03:05 * mnemoc wants to remove as much $archdir calls as possible in pro of `find_source_file`
03:06 < mnemoc> rxr: is [DEP] field of .desc used for anything?
03:06 < mnemoc> # grep -lR '$archdir' package/ | grep -v '.svn' | wc -l
03:06 < mnemoc> 75
03:14 < rxr> I do not like find in the name
03:14 < rxr> maybe match or so is nicer
03:15 < mnemoc> ok
03:15 < mnemoc> i like match_source_file
03:19 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5267 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * renamed function find_source_file to match_source_file
03:19 < mnemoc> rxr: can you please try to download ftp://ftp.itk.ru/pub/clip/patch.tgz for me?
03:20 < rxr> mnemoc: got it ...
03:20 < mnemoc> that easy?
03:20 < mnemoc> can you send it to me? please :(
03:21 < mnemoc> i can't even auth on that server :\
03:21 < rxr> wget grabbed it ...
03:21 < mnemoc> yes?
03:22 < mnemoc> ...
03:22 < mnemoc> Logging in as anonymous ...
03:23 < mnemoc> ...
03:23 < mnemoc> Error in server response, closing control connection.
03:23 < mnemoc> Retrying.
03:24 < rxr> sent it
03:25 < mnemoc> thanks :)
03:33 * mnemoc doesn't have enough machine to run three builds
03:34 < mnemoc> svn up
03:34 < mnemoc> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/t2/trunk'
03:34 < mnemoc> svn: PROPFIND of '/t2/trunk': Could not read status line: connection was closed by server. (http://svn.exactcode.de)
03:34 < mnemoc> uhm
03:35 < mnemoc> second try worked
03:39 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5268 /trunk/package/develop/clip/ (clip.desc getpatch.sh): * updated clip (1.1.13-1 -> 1.1.13-39)
03:46 < rxr> getpatch.sh ?
03:46 < mnemoc> a helper
03:46 < mnemoc> it converts patch.tgz into a versioned clip-patch file
03:47 < mnemoc> using some files inside the tarball
03:49 < rxr> aha
03:50 < rxr> btw. I would like to see a more lightweight match_source_tarball, like done in other packages like xemacs and xorg
03:50 < rxr> like:
03:50 < rxr> `echo $desc_D | tr ' ' '\n' | egrep X.*src-..tgz | \
03:50 < rxr> sed 's/gz/bz2/'`
03:50 < rxr> e.g. not grepping the wohle .desc file ...
03:50 < mnemoc> yes, but that only support package=$pkg
03:51 < mnemoc> but i could use that if no package is specified
03:51 < rxr> erhm
03:52 < rxr> I would not even think about supporting grepping in other packages .desc files
03:52 < mnemoc> and both methods call grep once
03:52 < rxr> this is a very big nodo and should never be done ...
03:52 < rxr> e.g. the package might not be downloaded and such
03:53 < rxr> if the package needs externa tarballs it should specify the matching ones in the .desc file - e.g. vnc does download a specifically matching version of xfree
03:53 < rxr> and only exactly the files needed ...
03:53 < rxr> btw. this one is failing:
03:53 < rxr> == 12/28/04 03:12:15 =[9]=> Aborted building package xfce4-mixer.
03:53 < rxr> due to patch not applying ...
03:53 < mnemoc> i'm not so sure if extender would not need to do something with a file downloaded by an extender
03:54 < mnemoc> i haven't tested xfce4 yet :\
03:54 < mnemoc> i had to restart my minimal-xfce4 from zero :(
03:55 < mnemoc> "file downloaded by an extendee..."
03:56 < CIA-10> rene * r5269 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfdesktop/xfdesktop.desc: * fixed xfdesktop priority to build after xfce4-panel
03:56 < mnemoc> do you see performance overhead on match_source_file or just feature overhead?
03:56 < rxr> hm - ok - that is a valid point ...
03:56 < rxr> feature overhead
03:57 < mnemoc> i tend to generalize too much
03:57 < rxr> svn up will fix a package in your xfce build ... ;-)
03:57 < mnemoc> thanks :)
03:57 < rxr> would be cool if you could fix the non-applying patch - removing would be fine with me ...
03:58 < mnemoc> disable it locally until i reach that point :)
04:07 < mnemoc> fixed :)
04:08 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5270 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-mixer/devfs.patch: * fixed xfce4-mixer's devfs.patch
04:19 < rxr> n8 all
04:20 < mnemoc> n8 rxr
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14:17 < mnemoc> moin!
14:23 < rxr> re
14:23 < rxr> moin mnemoc
14:25 < mnemoc> moin rxr
14:27 < rxr> ehm
14:27 < rxr> what is this "akibg wutg" in our freshmeat announcement?
14:27 < mnemoc> uhm?
14:28 < rxr> http://freshmeat.net/projects/t2/?branch_id=38672&release_id=182859
14:28 < rxr> I'm sure this is not from me ...
14:28 < rxr> have you read my text last night?
14:28 < rxr> was it in my version?
14:29 < mnemoc> http://freshmeat.net/releases/182859/
14:29 < mnemoc> "and F FreeType 2.1.7" <-- this is the only typo i see
14:30 < rxr> restructured so that ccache works more reliably, _akibg wutg_ general
14:31 < mnemoc> oh
14:34 < mnemoc> akibg <--- along shifted
14:39 < rxr> hm
14:41 < rxr> interesting
14:41 < rxr> I think it was not in my version ... :-(
14:41 < rxr> cu
14:51 < mnemoc> and wutg is with shifted
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15:27 < madtux> hola.
15:29 < daja77> hola miguel
15:29 < madtux> danny boy. :)
15:54 < mnemoc> moin mike, daja
16:01 < CIA-10> jsaw * r5271 /trunk/package/network/dbus/dbus.conf: * disable gtk-sharp extensions in dbus, ours seem to be too new
16:03 < mnemoc> jsaw: mono-doc and others also fail to build with gtk# 2, i think downgrading gtk# is safer
16:05 < mnemoc> the other exit is to move every gtk# dependent package to their develop branches
16:06 < jsaw> re
16:06 < jsaw> mnemoc: hmmm....
16:07 < mnemoc> or keep both, gtk# and gtk#2
16:09 < mnemoc> gtk-sharp and gtk-sharp2 seems to be the best way
16:10 < mnemoc> jsaw: comments?
16:11 < jsaw> If you think this will not hurt (I mean, the versions will coexits peacefully), then we should take both.
16:12 < mnemoc> if it hurts i drop gtk-sharp2
16:13 < jsaw> but then, don't you have to downgrad mono also?
16:13 < mnemoc> nope, both gtk#s build with mono1.1.
16:14 < mnemoc> that was tested
16:14 < jsaw> okay.
16:15 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5272 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp/gtk-sharp.desc: * downgraded gtk-sharp (1.90 -> 1.0.4)
16:17 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5273 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp2/ (. gtk-sharp.desc): * added gtk-sharp2 as a copy of old gtk-sharp
16:17 < madtux> why?
16:17 < madtux> scrolling back
16:17 < mnemoc> gtk-sharp2 is not backward compatible
16:18 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5274 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp2/ (6 files): * fixed gtk-sharp2 package names
16:19 < mnemoc> err... i should have commited gtk-sharp2 before downgrading gtk-sharp :\ ... now i'll have to update it
16:21 < CIA-10> jsaw * r5275 /trunk/package/network/dbus/dbus.conf: * revert r5271 duet to r5272++
16:31 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5276 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp2/gtk-sharp2.desc: * updated gtk-sharp2 (1.0.4 -> 1.9.1)
16:35 < mnemoc> jsaw: do you have an idea of how to re-introduce catogories to pkgsel?
16:39 < jsaw> eh...
16:40 < jsaw> what do you mean?
16:40 < mnemoc> X desktop/gnome2/core
16:41 < mnemoc> X desktop/gtk
16:41 < jsaw> oh... lemma think
16:41 < mnemoc> recursive of course ;P
16:41 < mnemoc> X desktop
16:41 < mnemoc> X desktop/gnome2
16:42 < jsaw> should work as is
16:42 < mnemoc> foo/* is hardcoded to detect repostories
16:43 < jsaw> did you try?
16:43 < mnemoc> no :p
16:43 < mnemoc> let's see
16:45 < jsaw> you have to use extra/ in front, I guess
16:45 < mnemoc> yes, due to current categorization
16:45 < mnemoc> which i hate :p
16:46 < jsaw> ehm well ... I do not really object...
16:46 < mnemoc> i don't like to have one concept splited in two different trees
16:47 < mnemoc> eg. desktop/gnome2 and extra/desktop/gnome2
16:47 < mnemoc> i would like to:
16:47 < mnemoc> X desktop/ <--- to add the whole desktop thing
16:47 < mnemoc> X desktop/gnome2 <--- to add the while gnome2 thing
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16:55 < mnemoc> re
16:55 < mnemoc> :(
16:55 < mnemoc> what was the last thing i said?
16:56 < madtux> 09:52 < mnemoc> X desktop/gnome2 <--- to add the while gnome2 thing
16:56 < mnemoc> oh
16:56 < mnemoc> X desktop/gtk/core <--- to add minimal gtk stuff
16:56 < mnemoc> X desktop/*/core <--- to add minimal stuff of all desktop enviroments
16:56 < mnemoc> something _usefull_ for package selection
16:56 < mnemoc> current is absolutly useless
16:56 < mnemoc> do you see any target using it?
16:57 < mnemoc> i think stuff like desktop/{x11,gtk.gnome2,kde,xfce}/{base,extra,thirdparty} is far more helpful
16:57 < mnemoc> X extra/desktop/* <--- this is working
16:58 < jsaw> Okay, adding the following to pkgsel_init should do it:
16:58 < jsaw> gsub("base/", "", $8); gsub("extra/", "", $8);
16:58 < jsaw> should do it.
16:58 < jsaw> ups.
16:59 < mnemoc> uhm?
16:59 < jsaw> this removes the "extra/" or "base/" prefix of the category column.
17:00 < jsaw> Then, desktop/... should match
17:00 < mnemoc> i didn't wanted that :\
17:00 < jsaw> then I do not understand you.
17:00 < mnemoc> 1) i want to recategorize
17:01 < mnemoc> 2) i want to improve pkgsel parser to allow recursion and stuff like foo/*/bar/ and foo/ for the whole tree
17:02 < jsaw> okay. 1) is long overdue, I think we all agree.
17:04 < mnemoc> if we can ommit the trailing / much better
17:04 < jsaw> but 2)? I don't exactly get what is not working.... ??? (probably it's too early in the morning for me ...)
17:05 < jsaw> mnemoc: that's not possible unless you add extra logic to identify a category
17:05 < jsaw> I think, that's something that has to wait until reimpl in C++ or so.
17:11 < rxr> re
17:14 < mnemoc> jsaw: foo/* doesn't select foo/bar/blah
17:14 < mnemoc> O -----5---- 147.900 gnome2 libglademm 2.4.1 / extra/desktop/gnome 0 <--- this for extra/*
17:14 * rxr at my parent's k62-500 or so ...
17:14 < jsaw> could you please send me this error in mail, I have to leave fast. I'll be back later.
17:14 < mnemoc> :)
17:14 < mnemoc> rxr: having fun?
17:15 < rxr> yeah
17:15 < rxr> fighting the nvidia binary driver
17:15 < jsaw> cu
17:15 < rxr> cu jsaw
17:15 < rxr> I'll complete replace the nvidia package junk we inherited from rock ...
17:15 < rxr> it is pure crap ...
17:16 < mnemoc> :)
17:17 < rxr> and does not even automate the kernel module buld ...
17:17 < rxr> if you wanna laugh a bit visit package/x11/nvidia ...
17:20 < mnemoc> let' see :)
17:20 < mnemoc> quite simple
17:20 < madtux> rxr: any known bugs on the beta2 isos?
17:21 < rxr> well more or less
17:21 < madtux> ...
17:21 < mnemoc> madtux: any reason to ask?
17:21 < rxr> maybe se roor password setting in stone is broken ...
17:21 < madtux> mnemoc: that will make me decide to either download them for a friend or not
17:21 < rxr> and the kdm session creator did not match to kde's current session stuff
17:22 < rxr> most is fine - only the tiny polishing before a major series we need to do ...
17:22 < madtux> okis
17:31 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5277 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfprint/xfprint.desc: * repriorized xfprint after xfce-mcs-manager
17:32 < madtux> mnemoc: did u actually updated to xfce4 without making a full build before?
17:32 < mnemoc> on trunk, yes
17:32 < mnemoc> xfce is not updated on beta2
17:33 < mnemoc> xfce4 will be updated and running on beta3
17:33 < madtux> very well.
17:34 < madtux> .oO( and _I_ was always screamed at when i submitted untested stuff :(
17:35 < mnemoc> madtux: when?
17:35 < mnemoc> trunk is alive, not frozen as rock's
17:35 < mnemoc> .oO( daja will kill me )o
17:38 < mnemoc> Error logs from mini-xfce-2.1.0-beta3-x86-pentium-mmx-32-generic-expert:
17:38 < mnemoc> 174 builds total, 161 completed fine, 0 with errors.
17:38 < rxr> mnemoc: why will daja kill you?
17:38 < mnemoc> because i /bashed/ rock
17:40 < rxr> *lol*
17:40 < rxr> rock trunk is not really froyen
17:41 < rxr> frozen even ...
17:41 < rxr> ever week some ice crusher is driving thru the frozen see ...
17:41 < mnemoc> :D
17:42 < mnemoc> yes, clifford is fighting hard to keep it navegable
17:42 < rxr> so, let's see if my nvidia postlinux.conf works out ...
17:42 < rxr> navegable, what?
17:43 < mnemoc> the frozen see :)
17:43 < rxr> :-)
17:43 < rxr> me a bit away
17:47 < mnemoc> madtux: i'll have mini-xfce4 (4.2-rc3) in less than an hour if everything goes as now
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18:05 * daja77 not in killing mood
18:08 < mnemoc> :D
18:08 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5278 /trunk/package/xfce4/ (5 files in 3 dirs): * relocated .conf files into their right packages (xfce4-appfinder and xfce4-icon-theme)
18:08 * mnemoc is safe for now then
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18:14 < c4y0> hi
18:15 < mnemoc> hi c4y0
18:16 < mnemoc> Error logs from mini-xfce-2.1.0-beta3-x86-pentium-mmx-32-generic-expert:
18:16 < mnemoc> 174 builds total, 174 completed fine, 0 with errors.
18:16 < mnemoc> nice
18:34 < rxr> yep
18:34 < rxr> do you use that often?
18:34 < rxr> the target I mean
18:35 < rxr> we need some independant t2 based products that have independent releases and user groups and such, to hype t2 ..
18:37 < mnemoc> distributions "powered by t2"
18:38 < rxr> yep
18:38 < mnemoc> that was a test build, but i want my mnemosyne-desktop office centered using xfce
18:38 < mnemoc> mnemocyne-office can be more ad-hoc
18:38 < mnemoc> mnemosyne*
18:42 < mnemoc> i'll install that mini-xfce right after my bootdisk finishes to build
18:43 < mnemoc> http install because that machine has no cd drive
18:45 < mnemoc> i'm convised that a good categorization which allows tunned pkgsels with a few rules will trigger a lot of sub-distributions
18:46 < mnemoc> tuned*
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19:01 * mnemoc sueña con un pkgsel similar a esto:
19:01 < mnemoc> X base/core
19:01 < mnemoc> X network/base
19:01 < mnemoc> X desktop/x11/base
19:01 < mnemoc> X desktop/gtk/base
19:01 < mnemoc> X desktop/xfce4
19:01 < mnemoc> X apps/office
19:01 < mnemoc> X firefox
19:01 < mnemoc> X thunderbird
19:02 < rxr> apps/office might already include far too much ...
19:02 < mnemoc> apps/office/foo
19:03 < rxr> I think a very good dependency reolver and support will boost t2 ...
19:03 < rxr> feel free to post an in-depth review of a new category scheme to the list
19:03 < mnemoc> but currently we are unable to distinguish strongness of dependensies
19:04 < rxr> yes ...
19:06 < mnemoc> /usr/src/building/t2/test/build/boot-2.1.0-beta3-x86-pentium-mmx-32-bootdisk-expert/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/crosscc/../lib/gcc/i586-unknown-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../i586-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
19:06 < mnemoc> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
19:06 < mnemoc> *** The command 'i586-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c' failed.
19:06 < mnemoc> *** You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler.
19:07 < mnemoc> No 1-binutils.log file.
19:07 < mnemoc> uhm
19:07 < mnemoc> how can i miss crt1.o??!
19:09 < rxr> no idea
19:09 < rxr> what kind of build is that?
19:09 < daja77> what target arch?
19:10 < mnemoc> boot/pmmx
19:10 < rxr> hm
19:10 < rxr> I try, too ...
19:10 < daja77> i saw that in an hppa crossbuild once ...
19:13 < rxr> mnemoc: is this a dietlibc linked package?
19:13 < rxr> hm - no binutils ...
19:13 < mnemoc> 1-bintuils?
19:14 < rxr> hm - let's see what I get
19:14 < mnemoc> i have the verbose output if you see something i missed
19:17 < mnemoc> /usr/src/building/t2/test/build/boot-2.1.0-beta3-x86-pentium-mmx-32-bootdisk-expert/usr/lib/crt1.o
19:17 < mnemoc> /usr/src/building/t2/test/build/boot-2.1.0-beta3-x86-pentium-mmx-32-bootdisk-expert/usr/i586-unknown-linux-gnu/lib/crt1.o
19:18 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/1-binutils.err-v
19:22 < mnemoc> shouldn't i have a crt1.o inside TOOLCHAIN?
19:24 * mnemoc starting a fresh 'boot2' build
19:28 < rxr> no it should not be inside TOOLCHAIN after my last cleenup round IIRC
19:28 < mnemoc> so bintuils is just looking on the wrong place
19:29 < mnemoc> ld*
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19:59 < rxr> hi rbarnich
20:01 [Users #t2]
20:01 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ jsaw ] [ rbarnich] [ sparc-kly]
20:01 [ CIA-10 ] [ ideal ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ valentin ]
20:01 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 10 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal]
20:02 < CIA-10> rene * r5279 /trunk/package/base/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
20:02 < CIA-10> * added the nvidia alias to the two linux module packages (was in some
20:02 < CIA-10> hidden "to be executed by the user install script" previously)
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20:09 < jsaw> re
20:09 < rxr> hi jsaw
20:10 < mnemoc> hi jsaw
20:10 < jsaw> mnemoc: the missing crt1.o usually happens after one or two files from stage 0 or 1 are rebuild. remove all 2-* and it should be fine
20:10 < jsaw> hi rxr, mnemoc
20:10 < mnemoc> jsaw: aha... thanks
20:10 < mnemoc> jsaw: we need a FAQ :)
20:14 < jsaw> dinner came faster than I thought, brb
20:15 < rxr> good point
20:15 < CIA-10> rene * r5280 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia/ (install.sh makeinst-fix.patch nvidia.conf nvidia.desc): (log message trimmed)
20:15 < CIA-10> * redone the nvidia package. Previously it just extracted the flies into
20:15 < CIA-10> /usr/src/nv and relied on the user hacking on it. Now it installs the
20:15 < CIA-10> files that can always be installed, and only places the "alternative"
20:15 < CIA-10> nvidia libGL* and co stuff into /usr/src/nv for later deployment. The
20:16 < CIA-10> postlinux.conf, which will sanely build he kernel module for any
20:16 < CIA-10> kernel, is done - but under testing. To be committed as soon as the
20:16 < rxr> mnemoc: have you som FAQ points? I'm open to inject it into the homepage
20:16 < rxr> cu jsaw
20:16 < mnemoc> rxr: i love wikis :)
20:16 < rxr> yeah - I love CMS - just that it needs time to set one up ...
20:17 < rxr> I love verbose commit messages :-)
20:17 < mnemoc> :)
20:17 < mnemoc> rxr: wikis are fast to set up :)
20:22 < rxr> well, ...
20:22 < rxr> for now a FAQ text would be a nice start
20:23 < rxr> brb
20:23 < mnemoc> Documentation/FAQ ?
20:27 < CIA-10> miguel * r5281 /trunk/package/x86/syslinux/syslinux.desc: * Updated syslinux (2.11 > 2.13)
20:28 < CIA-10> miguel * r5282 /trunk/target/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * Updated syslinux for all the targets (2.11 > 2.13)
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20:29 < madtux> re.
20:29 < mnemoc> madtux: :D
20:30 < madtux> mnemoc: ?
20:30 < madtux> :)
20:30 < mnemoc> agradable verte commiteando
20:31 < madtux> "This is just the begging" :)
20:31 < madtux> beggining*
20:31 < mnemoc> =)
20:31 < mnemoc> madtux: N0VAK debe ser convertido
20:31 < madtux> mnemoc: ... we are at #t2
20:32 < mnemoc> madtux: N0VAK must be converted :p
20:32 < madtux> ok now wtf is him? :)
20:33 < mnemoc> a guy from 'la granja'
20:34 < madtux> oh..
20:34 < madtux> how may i help?
20:34 < madtux> is he worth the try? :)
20:34 < mnemoc> selling t2? :)
20:34 < mnemoc> madtux: he has a compatible /project/, hardware and interest
20:35 < madtux> i see...
20:35 < madtux> i must get to know him and the project better
20:37 -!- N0V4K [~N0V4K@246.Red-80-33-149.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #t2
20:37 < N0V4K> hello
20:38 < mnemoc> hi busy-N0V4K
20:39 < N0V4K> mnemoc, hi
20:39 < N0V4K> sparc-kly, hi :P
20:42 < rxr> hi N0V4K
20:43 < N0V4K> rxr, hi
20:44 < rxr> ouhm the k6 is slow ...
20:44 < rxr> == 17:51:40 =[9]=> Building base/linux26 [2.6.10 2.1.0-beta3].
20:45 < rxr> and now it is 20:53:37 and still building
20:46 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5283 /trunk/package/base/sysvinit/no_init.diff: * fixed sysvinit optional patch to not install init and runlevel
20:53 < madtux> bienvenido N0V4K
20:56 < mnemoc> madtux: do you want to add "subdistribution info" on Config and loaders :) name, url and url for updating binaries?
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21:00 < mipe> found couple of "bugs" after i installed beta2,anyone around?
21:01 < mnemoc> mipe: sure, shoot
21:02 < mipe> default.vcfont and default.keymap has wrong symlink,after install. stone? it was /usr/share/kbd/keymaps/usr/share/kbd/keymaps/i386....
21:04 < mipe> it would be correct one. if the /usr/share/kbd/ wasnt there
21:04 < mipe> in front of it
21:05 < mnemoc> yes.... /me looking into it
21:05 < mipe> and i cant get nvidia drivers to get installed
21:06 < mnemoc> mipe: rene just rewrote nvidia package
21:06 < mipe> i get Compiling kernel module ..
21:06 < mipe> Unable to determine kernel version.
21:06 < mipe> make: *** [select_makefile] Error 1
21:07 < mnemoc> mipe: tell /him/ your kernel source is on /usr
21:12 < mipe> tomorrow i'll start that amd64 build. have to go soon. but how can i help you on t2 development other than "heavy" testing? :)
21:12 < madtux> mnemoc: subdist info... on Config? ... what's the sence of it.. tell me more
21:12 < mnemoc> mipe: going into trunk and sending patches :)
21:12 < madtux> mnemoc: do u have any clue of why are we disabling rmt on cpio ?
21:12 < mnemoc> madtux: naming subdistros
21:12 < mnemoc> madtux: nope
21:13 < madtux> the patch is no longer usefull or portable to cpio 2.6..
21:13 < mnemoc> rxr:
21:14 < mnemoc> madtux: i guess it was broken on some moment of the history :)
21:14 < madtux> cpio builds and works fine without the patch
21:14 < madtux> at least the new version ;)
21:15 < mnemoc> madtux: follow your instincts :)
21:15 < mnemoc> madtux: good patches need a 'reason' on top
21:15 < madtux> did u follow ur instincts when u did the untested-xfce4 thing ?
21:16 < mnemoc> madtux: yes, and the day after the update xfce4.2-rc3 was perfectly building
21:16 < madtux> ok :P
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21:16 < N0V4K> madtux, buenas
21:17 < madtux> N0V4K: como le va?
21:17 < mnemoc> export LANG=en
21:17 < N0V4K> bien a ki que me meto mnemoc y me pico el gusanillo de esto
21:17 < N0V4K> *metio
21:18 < mnemoc> N0V4K: T2 is your road :)
21:21 < mnemoc> mipe: i can't found the problem on default.{vcfont,keymap} generation, i'll have to try on a running machine
21:25 < CIA-10> miguel * r5284 /trunk/package/archiver/cpio/ (cpio.desc no_rmt.patch): * Updated cpio (2.5 > 2.6) and removed no_rmt.patch as no longer needed
21:26 < madtux> mnemoc: ... 14:21 -!- mipe [~mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["tomorrow"]
21:26 < CIA-10> miguel * r5285 /trunk/package/archiver/ucl/ucl.desc: * Updated ucl (1.01 > 1.03)
21:26 < mnemoc> :(
21:28 < madtux> N0V4K: tu hablas ingles?
21:33 < rxr> hm - still building
21:33 < mnemoc> linux26?
21:34 < rxr> yep
21:36 < rxr> mnemoc: I can look into the kbd problem - noticed it on this k6 box, too
21:36 < madtux> mnemoc: now he knows what u used to feel
21:36 < rxr> yes, the nvidia package was a joke ...
21:36 < rxr> in future versions of t2 the linux* packages will include a prebuilt kernel config matching nvidia moduls (for those who need it ...)
21:37 < madtux> rxr, mnemoc what is stoping us to update mine ?
21:38 < mnemoc> madtux: we are waiting you for reviewing the code changes to see if something hardcoded can fail on t2!
21:39 < madtux> grrml.......'\
21:39 < daja77> :D
21:40 < mnemoc> rxr: ok
21:47 < N0V4K> madtux, mas o menos
21:47 < N0V4K> my inglish not beary whell
21:47 < mnemoc> uhm
21:48 < madtux> ph34r.
21:48 < N0V4K> ;)
21:54 < jsaw> re
21:54 < mnemoc> hi jsaw
21:54 < jsaw> hi mnemoc
21:58 < sparc-kly> hi rxr mnemoc madtux jsaw .lol
21:59 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: you will have to translate to N0V4K :)
21:59 < sparc-kly> you are crazy . :P
21:59 < mnemoc> brb
22:00 < sparc-kly> t2 in distrowatch
22:00 < sparc-kly> humm
22:00 < madtux> sparc-kly: hispanic too?
22:00 < N0V4K> xD
22:00 < madtux> latin domination! :)
22:00 < N0V4K> sparc-kly, You like se my personal translate
22:00 < N0V4K> xD
22:01 < N0V4K> madtux, YEAH!
22:01 < sparc-kly> madtux you are from ?
22:01 < madtux> sparc-kly: costa rica..
22:01 < N0V4K> wow costa rica
22:01 < sparc-kly> ahh . Puerto rico here
22:01 < N0V4K> sparc-kly, sux :P
22:01 < madtux> N0V4K: ?
22:01 < sparc-kly> ?
22:01 < N0V4K> EStoy de broma
22:01 < madtux> sparc-kly: i used to have a girlfriend in PR
22:02 < madtux> N0V4K: "I'm joking"
22:02 < N0V4K> In the TV look at Starwars 1
22:02 < madtux> Episode III comming soon
22:02 < N0V4K> yes
22:02 < sparc-kly> puertoricans girls :D good tits and perfect ass .
22:02 < N0V4K> sparc-kly, nonono the spanish girls the best
22:02 < madtux> sparc-kly: u obviously have never been to clombia, venezuela or brasil
22:03 < madtux> :)
22:03 < sparc-kly> lol
22:03 < N0V4K> aaaaaa and ITALIAN
22:03 < madtux> :)
22:03 < madtux> spanish folks..
22:03 < N0V4K> :(
22:03 < madtux> :P
22:04 < N0V4K> :_/
22:04 < sparc-kly> germans girls MmmMm
22:04 < madtux> actually spanish girls are sexy too
22:04 < jsaw> ...
22:04 < N0V4K> mmm
22:04 < madtux> german babes are awesome in bed.
22:04 < madtux> :)
22:04 < N0V4K> xD
22:04 < madtux> talking costa rican girls..
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22:05 < madtux> jsaw: i told my cousing u were asking about her
22:05 < N0V4K> sparc-kly|AMD, XD
22:05 < jsaw> madtux: ohoh...
22:05 < madtux> jsaw: she asked for pics and if you were thinking on comming over
22:06 < madtux> :)
22:06 < N0V4K> madtux, do you like BSD?
22:06 < madtux> N0V4K: 1/2 bit.. its been a while since my last contact with it
22:06 < N0V4K> :S
22:07 < madtux> N0V4K: why?
22:11 < madtux> ..
22:18 < jsaw> madtux: I'll hide now...
22:18 < madtux> jsaw: no need to
22:18 < madtux> :)
22:18 < jsaw> :)
22:19 < madtux> ok so i rested enough.. time to go back to building, updating, and fixing selinux and router
22:23 < mnemoc> re
22:24 < madtux> wb
22:25 < rxr> re
22:26 < CIA-10> jsaw * r5286 /trunk/package/x11/freetype/freetype.desc: * update freetype (2.1.7 -> 2.1.9)
22:26 < rxr> madtux: what do you know about german girls in bed?
22:26 < rxr> jsaw: no!
22:26 < rxr> jsaw: please revert
22:26 < jsaw> why?
22:26 < rxr> I did it - it breaks mozill based stuff
22:27 < rxr> .9 is horrible broken ..
22:27 < rxr> consult mozilla bugzilla and others ...
22:27 < rxr> I shoud mark stuff we already reverted in the future
22:27 < jsaw> why is there no note in the .desc file????
22:27 < madtux> rxr: today i will make a crossbuild to then put the stuff on my ultra and see how far i can get building minimal on it
22:27 < mnemoc> jsaw: good question :)
22:28 < madtux> rxr: i've know a few german girls visiting .cr ..
22:29 < rxr> madtux: ahso - ic ... ;-)
22:29 < CIA-10> jsaw * r5287 /trunk/package/x11/freetype/freetype.desc: * revert freetype update and add a note that 2.1.9 is broken
22:29 < rxr> ;-) - thanks
22:29 < madtux> rxr: there was a time when i wasn't a good christian boy :)
22:29 < mnemoc> religion is bad for health :)
22:30 < jsaw> madtux: and now you are?
22:30 < mnemoc> he had to became one to catch his girl :)
22:30 < jsaw> aha
22:32 < madtux> :)
22:33 < madtux> i'm a nice and quite guy now whom just enjoys life coding, and making his own meals.. and reading techy books
22:33 < mnemoc> jsaw: e17/efsd is weird, Makefile.in is not created with autogen=1
22:33 < madtux> and obviously spending time with his lady watching dvd's
22:33 < madtux> :)
22:34 < mnemoc> national geographic and discovery channel DVDs :)
22:34 < jsaw> mnemoc: does it call the accompanied autogen.sh or the builtin
22:34 < madtux> mnemoc: actually she likes the lilo and stitch, finding nemo kind of stuff..
22:34 < mnemoc> jsaw: uhm... i guess broken? accompanied
22:35 < madtux> i'm more into comedy, action, and vampire realted movies
22:35 < mnemoc> madtux: i have those :) but my dvd player is broken so i have to watch barney's vhs-es
22:36 < madtux> mnemoc: fix it!
22:36 * mnemoc imagines madtux watching zombie movies hidden from his girl
22:36 < jsaw> mnemoc: no, the builtin is broken
22:36 < mnemoc> jsaw: oh
22:36 < madtux> mnemoc: she likes then too as long as i don't go away from her side untill she falls asleep
22:36 < madtux> :)
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22:37 < mnemoc> madtux: :D
22:37 < mnemoc> /TOOLCHAIN/src.groff.1104269573.22423.7f0100/groff-1.19.1/src/roff/groff/groff: pic: Signal 11
22:37 < mnemoc> :0: macro error: diversion open while ejecting page (recovering)
22:37 < mnemoc> make[2]: *** [pic.ps] Error 2
22:37 < mnemoc> uhm
22:38 < jsaw> ?
22:38 < madtux> 0_o
22:39 < mnemoc> according to blindy's rockdoc i'm overoptimizing it
22:39 < rxr> *lol*
22:40 < mnemoc> he was my first match on google :)
22:40 < mnemoc> uhm, /me talking to hannes on the second match
22:40 < mnemoc> http://www.rocklinux.net/irclog/rocklinux.log.20041203
22:40 < madtux> can u actually "overoptimize" something?
22:41 < mnemoc>
22:41 < madtux> 0_o ..
22:41 < mnemoc>
22:41 < madtux> so how do u "under-optimize" it?
22:42 < madtux> i see
22:42 < mnemoc>
22:42 < mnemoc> o_O
22:42 < mnemoc> this was weird
22:44 < madtux> mnemoc: why do u always get most extrange problems?
22:44 < madtux> strange even
22:44 < jsaw> brb
22:46 < mnemoc> madtux: the weirdest is to find yourself solving the problem on google
22:53 < madtux> lol
22:55 < mnemoc> worked :\
22:55 < madtux> *LOL*
22:55 < mnemoc> rxr: should i commit? do you see evilness on removing -march ?
22:55 < rxr> yes
22:55 < rxr> evil ..
22:55 < rxr> we should really fix it ..
22:57 < mnemoc> do you want the build dir? :)
22:57 < rxr> not really - I already have so much on my todo ..
22:57 < mnemoc> commit with a #FIXME: flag?
22:58 < rxr> ok ok - do so ;-)
22:58 < madtux> Fix it before commit?
22:58 < madtux> :)
22:58 < mnemoc> madtux: i have no idea how to _really_ fix it
22:58 < rxr> .oO(how to convince me to commit hacks: "So you fix it?")
22:58 < rxr> mnemoc: anayze / debug the source
22:58 < mnemoc> :p
22:59 < rxr> mnemoc: it is either a real bug in the source that only shows up under high optmization or a gcc but misoptimizing
22:59 < mnemoc> sure :)
23:03 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5288 /trunk/package/base/groff/groff.conf: * hacked groff to build for p4 (overoptimized??)
23:05 < rxr> btw - hail to binary only rap
23:05 < rxr> crap even
23:05 < rxr> the latest nvidia invarnation does only produce junk on my parents Nvidia TNT card ...
23:05 < mnemoc> outch
23:06 < madtux> hail..
23:06 < madtux> :)
23:11 < jsaw> re
23:11 < mnemoc> hi jsaw
23:17 < CIA-10> rene * r5289 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia/ (nvidia.conf postlinux.conf):
23:17 < CIA-10> * the promissed nvidia/postlinux.conf as well as some normal package
23:17 < CIA-10> build tweaks
23:17 < jsaw> mnemoc: is this your problem: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15617
23:18 < mnemoc> jsaw yes
23:18 < jsaw> so, fall back to pentium3 - I'd suggest
23:18 < madtux> jsaw: hehe i just missread what u said.. nut it seemed funny
23:19 < madtux> "mnemoc is the problem"
23:19 * madtux hides
23:19 < jsaw> :)
23:19 < mnemoc> Not fixed.
23:19 < mnemoc> We still crash at the same position.
23:19 < CIA-10> rene * r5290 /trunk/package/shells/bash/ (17 files):
23:19 < CIA-10> * added the 16 (... !) official bash patches in the hope they fix the
23:19 < CIA-10> seg-fault problems during ./debug.sh ...
23:19 < jsaw> Freudian mis-reading... hm, madtux...
23:19 < mnemoc> :)
23:19 < jsaw> rxr: you are crazy!
23:20 < rxr> jsaw: why?
23:20 < mnemoc> jsaw: fall back the whole build just for pentium3?
23:20 < madtux> jsaw: and u realize of that untill no?
23:20 < madtux> now*
23:20 < jsaw> rxr: adding 16 patches
23:20 < madtux> jsaw: i though u knew rxr for years already
23:20 < mnemoc> jsaw: fall back the whole build just for groff?*
23:20 < jsaw> mnemoc: no, just for groff, s/arch=pentium3/arch=pentium4/
23:20 < rxr> jsaw: I'm not the bash mantainer - if those people can not do proper releases it is not my problem ...
23:21 < mnemoc> jsaw: oh, yes :)
23:21 < jsaw> madtux: actually you are right, I know rxr quite some time...
23:21 < jsaw> rxr: no excuses here, it's crazy. full stop.
23:21 < jsaw> :D
23:23 < madtux> http://www.google.com/press/zeitgeist2004/index.html
23:24 < jsaw> mnemoc: could you please read the full bugzilla page. Maybe the thing with -mpreferred-stack-boundary=128 works. If so, we should enable it globally.
23:24 < jsaw> read and test - I should've said ;)
23:25 < madtux> and fix?
23:25 < madtux> :)
23:29 < mnemoc> madtux: no, just read and test :)
23:29 < madtux> but but! :(
23:29 < rxr> jsaw: what should I do? merge them into one file? or add 16 download URLs_
23:29 < rxr> ? even
23:30 < rxr> me shortly off
23:32 < jsaw> rxr: no, just kick 'em
23:38 -!- rbarnich [~rbarnich@pcp04150125pcs.sanarb01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #t2
23:43 < CIA-10> jeru * r5291 /trunk/package/develop/docutils/docutils.desc: * updated docutils (0.3.5 -> 0.3.7)
23:45 < CIA-10> jeru * r5292 /trunk/package/python/pysqlite/pysqlite.desc: * updated pysqlite (1.1.3 -> 1.1.6)
23:48 < madtux> who is jeru?
23:49 < mnemoc> a friend of rene
23:49 < madtux> is he ever on irc?
23:50 < mnemoc> at least not as jeru
23:50 < madtux> brb
23:50 -!- madtux [~mike@200.91.101.102] has quit ["leaving"]
23:52 < rxr> re
23:52 < rxr> mnemoc: he is not such a close "freind" of me ...
23:53 < rxr> when he joined t2 i did not know him - he just accidently comes out of berlin and we phoned two times so far ...
23:53 < rxr> t2 is not a project for everyone living in berlin or so ... ;-)
23:54 < rxr> jsaw: the patches do not fix the seg-fault problem
23:54 < rxr> I'll build bash with debugging symbols now and try to track it
23:54 < rxr> because the damn seg-faults annoy the hell out of me ...
23:55 < jsaw> rxr: make a new pot of tea, or have some pot, or whatever - but relax before you start debugging...
23:55 < jsaw> ;)
23:56 < rxr> i'm right now ...
23:56 < rxr> and I have a pot of tee on the table ...
23:56 < rxr> but the problem needs a fix
23:56 < rxr> I endure it for several months already and I can not see the bash segfaults anymore ...
23:56 < jsaw> yeah - I know. That's the problem.
23:58 < rxr> jsaw: I do not understand what problem you see ... ? ;-)
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