T2 IRC Log: 2004-12-27

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--- Log opened Mon Dec 27 00:00:46 2004
00:07 < rxr> no
00:07 < jsaw> http://slashdot.org/articles/04/12/26/181240.shtml?tid=126&tid=1
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00:08 < jsaw> I wonder why a tape is still of interest. I assume they want to release the holographic stuff a couple of years later...
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00:25 < rxr> any release name idea
00:30 < jsaw> your own sweet way
00:31 < jsaw> (song title, The NOtting Hillbillies, Mark Knopfler etal.)
00:33 < jsaw> nice music, btw
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00:40 < jsaw> sending SIGSLEEP to self...
00:40 < jsaw> cu rxr!
00:50 < rxr> cu
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01:40 < CIA-9> rene * r5244 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/kernel26-disable.lst: * no CONFIG_SND_EMU10K1 for linux 2.6 on powerpc (does not compile)
01:40 < CIA-9> rene * r5243 /trunk/scripts/Create-ISO: * increased default ISO size to 650MB
01:54 < rxr> mnemoc: the ld-glob patch does not eem to cause regressions over here ...
01:54 < rxr> my beta3 build is at 3-perl
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02:03 < rxr> hi mnemoc
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02:12 < rxr> hi mnemoc ideal
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02:23 < rxr> jsaw: I removed the gnome and avifile LD hacks now we have ld globbing - let's see if all builds ...
02:29 < mnemoc> hi rxr
02:29 < mnemoc> rxr: you found the problem with ld-globbing?
02:29 * mnemoc shower
02:30 < mnemoc> or however it writes
02:40 < rxr> mnemoc: I had none ...
02:40 < rxr> bulids here ...
02:40 < rxr> so - me bed ...
02:40 < rxr> n8 all
02:40 < rxr> mnemoc: please no freshmeat announcement yet - let's wait until my ISO is on the server again ...
02:40 < rxr> managed to rm it ...
02:42 < mnemoc> ok
02:42 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr
02:46 < rxr> btw. I think we have an bug in the post install password set dialog
02:46 < rxr> I think it fails the first time
02:46 < rxr> due to some "library not found" ldconfig needed reason
02:46 < rxr> the -beta2 might be affected
02:46 < rxr> I saw this with -beta and with -beta2 on my brothers box
02:47 < rxr> Im not sure if it happend on my farthers box since I chrooted into the new system quite quickly and was not able to reproduce it anymore ...
02:47 < rxr> but - I need sleep now ..
03:22 < mnemoc> i could never set password via dialog thing on rock neither
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12:56 < rxr> moin
12:56 < rxr> mnemoc: in the past it worked
13:08 < rxr> here - with normal pentium-mmx builds - the ld globbing does not cause regressions ...
13:13 < rxr> Error logs from install-2.1.0-beta3-x86-bootdisk:
13:13 < rxr> 161 builds total, 161 completed fine, 0 with errors.
13:14 < rxr> hm - ok - strangely enough glibc fails in stage 5 in my desktop build ...
13:14 < rxr> maybe this is due to the globbing patch
13:15 < rxr> /TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1104137178.14667.0/libc/objdir/nss/getent.o(.text+0x513): I
13:15 < rxr> n function `hosts_keys':
13:15 < rxr> getent.c: undefined reference to `gethostbyaddr'
13:15 < rxr> /TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1104137178.14667.0/libc/objdir/nss/getent.o(.text+0x520):ge
13:15 < rxr> tent.c: undefined reference to `gethostbyname2'
13:15 < rxr> /TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1104137178.14667.0/libc/objdir/nss/getent.o(.text+0x530):ge
13:15 < rxr> tent.c: undefined reference to `gethostbyname2'
13:15 < rxr> /TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1104137178.14667.0/libc/objdir/nss/getent.o(.text+0x821): I
13:15 < rxr> n function `networks_keys':
13:15 < rxr> getent.c: undefined reference to `getnetbyaddr'
13:15 < rxr> /TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1104137178.14667.0/libc/objdir/nss/getent.o(.text+0x82a):ge
13:15 < rxr> tent.c: undefined reference to `getnetbyname'
13:15 < rxr> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
13:18 < rxr> oh - we are already on distrowatch.com ;-)
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13:30 < CIA-9> rene * r5246 /trunk/scripts/Download:
13:30 < CIA-9> * only use -z4 instead of -z9 for cvs checkouts as recommended by the
13:30 < CIA-9> KDE project
13:43 < mnemoc> moin!
13:52 < rxr> moin mnemoc
13:53 < rxr> damn crap:
13:53 < rxr> configure.in:6: error: m4_defn: undefined macro: _m4_divert_diversion
13:53 < rxr> I give up - damn auto* junk
13:54 < mnemoc> =)
13:59 < rxr> the sourceforge mirror thing did nto yet change to a functional state
13:59 < rxr> what do we want to do about it ?
14:00 < mnemoc> we have everything on our mirrors... do we need to change download locations?
14:00 < rxr> no - but I have to get files during the updates I just wanted to perform ..
14:01 < CIA-9> rene * r5247 /trunk/package/network/iptables/iptables.desc: * updated iptables (1.2.9 -> 1.2.11)
14:02 < mnemoc> rxr: ok, what mirror will we use on new updates? unc?
14:02 < rxr> that is the question ...
14:02 < rxr> maybe we should contact sf.net and ask for recommendation
14:03 < mnemoc> ack
14:03 < rxr> e.g. maybe they have some balanving URL ...
14:03 < mnemoc> maybe they have removed intentionally their balancer
14:09 < mnemoc> http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/tortoisecvs/TortoiseCVS-1.8.10.exe <--- this test worked
14:10 < mnemoc> rxr: what about doing this hotfix directly on Download instead of [D]s?
14:10 < mnemoc> it's a dirty² hack but it will keep [D]s clean
14:12 < mnemoc> at least while sf.net fix their problem
14:17 < rxr> let's just teak the urls during updates
14:17 < rxr> and do nothing further
14:17 < mnemoc> ok
14:17 < rxr> I think it is intentinal and I just mailed them ..
14:17 < mnemoc> ok
14:17 < mnemoc> # svn cleanup
14:17 < mnemoc> svn: Can't open directory 'trunk/package/gnome2/gcalctool/.svn/tmp': No such file or directory
14:17 < CIA-9> rene * r5248 /trunk/package/gnome2/abiword/abiword.desc: * updated abiword (2.2.1 -> 2.2.2)
14:17 < mnemoc> how can i properly fix that?
14:18 < mnemoc> mkdir ?
14:18 < CIA-9> rene * r5249 /trunk/package/multimedia/xine-lib/xine-lib.desc: * updated xine-lib (1-rc8 -> 1.0)
14:18 < rxr> if you did not modify the package I would simply
14:18 < rxr> rm -rf package/gnome2/gcalctool
14:18 < rxr> svn up ..
14:19 < mnemoc> ah, ok... let svn recosntruct it :)
14:23 < mnemoc> rxr: what do you think about xfce4.1.99.3 on trunk?
14:30 < rxr> hehe
14:30 < rxr> just wanted to ask about it ...
14:30 < rxr> would be nice if you could commit it ...
14:31 < mnemoc> ok
14:34 < mnemoc> btw, xfce4-themes and xffm-icons seem to be gone
14:40 < mnemoc> xfce4-icon-theme seems to have replaced xffm-icons
14:50 < rxr> ok ;-)
14:50 < rxr> me off to my brothers box and then lunch ..
14:50 < rxr> cu
14:54 < mnemoc> cu rxr
15:05 < CIA-9> rene * r5250 /trunk/package/kde/kdebase/kdm.cron:
15:05 < CIA-9> * fixed kdm session generation for kde 3.3 (only proof of concept
15:05 < CIA-9> tested on another box that has no internet connection right now)
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15:08 < mnemoc> madtux!
15:08 < madtux> hello. :)
15:16 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5251 /trunk/package/xfce4/ (xfce4-themes/ xffm-icons/):
15:16 < CIA-9> * removed xffm-icons due to XFCE update
15:16 < CIA-9> * removed xfce4-themes due to XFCE update
15:17 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5252 /trunk/package/xfce4/ (29 files in 23 dirs): (log message trimmed)
15:17 < CIA-9> * added xfce4-appfinder (4.1.99.3)
15:17 < CIA-9> * updated xfce-utils (4.0.6 -> 4.1.99.3)
15:17 < CIA-9> * updated xfce-mcs-plugins (4.0.6 -> 4.1.99.3)
15:17 < CIA-9> * updated xfce4-systray (4.0.6 -> 4.1.99.3)
15:17 < CIA-9> * updated xfwm4-themes (4.0.6 -> 4.1.99.3)
15:17 < CIA-9> * updated xfprint (4.0.6 -> 4.1.99.3)
16:15 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5253 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfcalendar/xfcalendar.desc: * fixed xfcalendar checksum
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20:21 < rxr> re
20:25 < mnemoc> re rxr
20:25 < mnemoc> (nicklist.pl for irssi is very nice)
20:28 < rxr> what does it do ?
20:29 < mnemoc> it adds a vertical column with nick list
20:29 < mnemoc> using screen features
20:30 < mnemoc> very customable
20:30 < rxr> mnemoc: ouhm - I do not think I need it ;~:-)
20:30 * mnemoc feels like an xchat user :)
20:50 < valentin> rehi from the congress network (hopefully...)
20:51 < mnemoc> c3?
20:52 < valentin> yes
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21:20 < daja77> valentin: where are you?
21:21 < valentin> at "your" booth *g*
21:21 < valentin> 3 m behind you
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21:24 < ]Error[> hi
21:24 < ]Error[> any more here?
21:24 < ]Error[> :)
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21:31 -!- ]Error[ is now known as Evir
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21:32 < Evir> hi sprac
21:32 < daja77> ah now trolling here ...
21:32 < Evir> aaa
21:32 < Evir> lol
21:33 < Evir> :D
21:33 < Evir> hhhhhhhhhhh
21:33 < Evir> hehehe
21:33 < Evir> like i sayed
21:33 < Evir> i was in corect chan
21:33 < Evir> when i asked about t2
21:33 < Evir> its look like tea 2
21:33 < Evir> or
21:33 < Evir> tea twice
21:33 < Evir> same thinges like this
21:34 * Evir dreaming of daja77 she is a guy and not girl and her tits gooo
21:34 < Evir> are you happy now
21:34 < Evir> ;P
21:34 < valentin> Evir wants to get kicked ....
21:35 < daja77> looks like that
21:35 < Evir> lol
21:35 < Evir> i have one question only
21:36 < Evir> does T2 is a way to bould new linux destro?
21:36 < valentin> hope it is a serios one
21:36 < Evir> yes
21:36 < Evir> "D
21:36 < Evir> :D
21:36 < valentin> Evir: read the website info
21:36 < Evir> lol
21:36 < Evir> i know it
21:36 < valentin> www.exactcode.de/t2
21:36 < Evir> and its serios
21:36 < Evir> and not fake questi0n like my freind
21:36 < Evir> ;P
21:36 < Evir> ]Error[: you have a question about the kernel?
21:36 < Evir> <]Error[> yes
21:37 < Evir> doo i need kernel with t2?
21:37 < Evir> Any Answer?
21:37 < Evir> :D
21:38 < Evir> and ma really questio is :D
21:38 < valentin> you need a running linux system that includes a running kernel
21:38 < Evir> haa
21:38 < Evir> soo i must get linux firsT?
21:38 < Evir> ;P
21:38 < valentin> you can use any common up to date linux distro you downloaded somewhere
21:39 < Evir> i dont undrtand it
21:39 < Evir> id like to make linux less then 200 MB coz i cant get linux cd
21:39 < Evir> soo whats i need to do
21:39 < Evir> to buld linux?
21:39 < Evir> with x-window
21:40 < Evir> and suppoting gvv
21:40 < Evir> and suppoting gcc, g+++
21:40 < valentin> why can't you download a linux cd iso ?
21:44 < Evir> i dont have dsl
21:44 < Evir> i have dalup
21:45 < Evir> and my speed is 4kb in a sec
21:45 < Evir> and i dont have any freind have dsl can help me
21:45 < Evir> :\
21:45 < daja77> you can order cds by mail
21:45 < Evir> and isp commpany will support dsl in this area in 2005/06/01 or 08/01
21:45 < Evir> i dont remmber
21:45 < valentin> Evir: if you want to build a system, the sources are usualy much bigger than the compiled binaries
21:46 < Evir> i dont have visa or master card
21:46 < Evir> :\
21:46 < Evir> haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
21:46 < valentin> do you have any *nix system running ?
21:47 < Evir> aaaaa
21:47 < Evir> i have 2 cds 'one 50 mb i downloaded and anther 80 mb"
21:47 < Evir> but the problem they are are booting from cd
21:48 < Evir> noo way to run them from hd
21:48 < Evir> :\
21:49 < Evir> can any one
21:49 < Evir> burn a cd and send it to me by mail?
21:49 < Evir> :D
21:50 < Evir> * meff (~meff@meff.user) has joined #debian
21:50 < Evir> can any one
21:50 < Evir> burn a cd and send it to me by mail?
21:50 < Evir> :D
21:50 < Evir> #debian The channel demigods have stolen your voice
21:50 < Evir> #debian The channel demigods have stolen your voice
21:50 < Evir> #debian The channel demigods have stolen your voice
21:50 < Evir> :\
21:52 < valentin> Evir: what country ?
21:53 < Evir> uae
21:53 < Evir> emirates
21:54 < Evir> [where dubai is ;p]
21:54 < Evir> you know it?
21:54 < valentin> never been there, but i know where it is on the map
21:54 < Evir> goood
21:54 < Evir> midel east :P
21:54 < Evir> ok doo you find any shop selling linux?
21:55 < valentin> i do not know where to order linux in the uae ...
21:55 < Evir> and not linux redhat v6 or v7
21:55 < Evir> eops
21:55 < Evir> ;\
22:03 < mnemoc> rehi
22:05 < valentin> hi mnemoc
22:05 < mnemoc> hi valentin
22:08 < Evir> hi mne
22:08 < Evir> :)
22:09 < mnemoc> hi Evir
22:09 < Evir> sup?
22:09 < mnemoc> sup what?
22:12 < Evir> sup = whats up= wzup = wtsup <<<==== 1
22:12 < mnemoc> =)
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22:41 < mnemoc> rxr: here?
22:42 < valentin> mnemoc: does not seem so ..
22:42 < mnemoc> but you are :)
22:42 < rxr> hi
22:42 < mnemoc> debug-dansguardian:[dansguardian-2.8.0.3]# type -p cpp
22:42 < mnemoc> /usr/bin/cpp
22:42 < mnemoc> debug-dansguardian:[dansguardian-2.8.0.3]# type -p g++
22:42 < mnemoc> /TOOLCHAIN/build/full-2.1.0-beta3-x86-pentiumpro-32-generic-expert/TOOLCHAIN/tools.chroot/wrapper/g++
22:43 < mnemoc> shouldn't cpp be wrapped too?
22:43 < rxr> hm - no idea
22:43 < rxr> it might be not yet ...
22:43 < mnemoc> dansguardian use it
22:44 < mnemoc> cpp -O2 -Wall -c String.cpp
22:44 < mnemoc> cpp: "-c" is not a valid option to the preprocessor
22:44 < mnemoc> and fails :)
22:44 < rxr> hm - maybe patching those evil uses might be better (and send it upstream)
22:44 < rxr> but we could add a cpp wrapper, too
22:45 < mnemoc> it use $(CPP) which points to cpp
22:45 < mnemoc> would it be ok to build it with g++ which is wrapped?
22:45 < rxr> oh - it wasnts to compile C++ with it ?
22:45 < mnemoc> or -c is wide wrong?
22:46 < rxr> depends whether it wants to preprocess for some dependency or so generatrion
22:46 < rxr> or really wants to compile the source ...
22:46 < rxr> for the later I would set CPP to g++ ...
22:46 < rxr> I did this for another package recently, too
22:46 < mnemoc> is it too evil to do it on global parse-config?
22:47 < rxr> audio/ladspa/ladspa.conf:var_append makeopt " " "CPP=$CXX"
22:47 < rxr> no - CPP is C Pre Processor ...
22:47 < rxr> only very strange people use it for C Plus Plus compiler
22:47 < rxr> everyone knows that is CXX ...
22:47 < mnemoc> ic
22:47 < rxr> or CC
22:47 < rxr> erh - no - me confused ... ;-)
22:48 < mnemoc> i'll use your hack
22:48 < mnemoc> CXX
22:48 < valentin> hi rxr
22:48 < rxr> hi valentin
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22:49 < mnemoc> hi CIA!
22:50 < rxr> embedded C++:
22:50 < rxr> diet gcc -O3 -nostdlib --no-rtti --no-rtti -lsupc++ your files ...
22:51 < rxr> if you wanna use exceptions you need:
22:51 < rxr> -lgcc_s
22:51 < mnemoc> supc++?
22:51 < rxr> and err - typo in my first line
22:52 < rxr> diet gcc -O3 -nostdlib --no-rtti --no-exceptions -lsupc++ your files ...
22:52 < rxr> mnemoc: C++ support stuff like new and delete operators
22:53 < mnemoc> aha... the c++ stuff ansi-c people like me use :)
22:53 < valentin> cu later
22:53 < rxr> cu valentin
22:53 < rxr> happy congress
22:57 < CIA-10> mnemoc * r5254 /trunk/package/network/dansguardian/ (dansguardian.conf dansguardian.desc):
22:57 < CIA-10> * updated dansguardian (2.6.1-13 -> 2.8.0.3)
22:57 < CIA-10> * updated dansguardian AV (3.1 -> 4.2)
22:57 < CIA-10> * fixed dansguardian which uses $CPP as c++ compiler
23:11 < mnemoc> http://www.harvest.com.br/asp/afn/dg.nsf <---- what kind of 'improvements' are those??
23:12 < mnemoc> http://www.harvest.com.br/asp/afn/wcfp.nsf/449683f58d33d9bb83256e3e007f50a6/118e6b231f94aba483256f310067f027/$FILE/dansguardian-2.8.0.3-antivirus-6.3.6.tar.gz <--- what kind of download location is that??!!
23:14 < rxr> hm
23:14 < mnemoc> errr
23:15 < mnemoc> lag
23:15 < mnemoc> o_O
23:15 < mnemoc> forget my err
23:16 < mnemoc> screeen is 'confused' with that long line and it mixed my windowes so i thought i had pasted on the wrong channel
23:31 < CIA-10> rene * r5255 /trunk/package/network/apache/apache.conf: * fixed apache's conditional to enable LDAP support
23:32 < mnemoc> /usr/src/building/t2/sandbox/build/minimal-2.1.0-beta3-x86-generic-expert/usr/include/linux/if_fddi.h:110: error: field `gen' has incomplete type
23:32 < mnemoc> make[1]: *** [fddi.o] Error 1
23:32 < mnemoc> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/building/t2/sandbox/src.net-tools.1104186239.4924.0/net-tools-1.60/lib'
23:32 < mnemoc> my first casualty using 2.6.10 headers
23:33 < mnemoc> oops... i forgot to commit that :\
23:33 < rxr> hm
23:34 < mnemoc> hm=apache or hm=net-tools
23:34 < rxr> linux-header regressions
23:35 < mnemoc> "using 2.6.10 headers" <--- on my sandbox tree, not on trunk
--- Log closed Tue Dec 28 00:00:46 2004