T2 IRC Log: 2004-12-26

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--- Log opened Sun Dec 26 00:00:41 2004
01:42 -!- rene [~rene@port-212-202-170-162.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2
01:42 < rene> hi
01:42 < rxr> oh
01:43 < rxr> got home ..
01:46 < mnemoc> hi rene, hi rxr
01:53 < rene> so
01:54 < mnemoc> brb
01:54 < rene> I now listen to music over a very ols Revox tube amplifier ...
01:54 < rene> and the w-lan signal strength is better here ...
01:54 < mnemoc> a classic :)
01:54 < rene> 27/92 ...
01:54 < mnemoc> almost 30 :p
01:54 < rene> ok - let's see what I can do at this time ...
01:55 < mnemoc> brb
01:55 < rene> the ISOs synced
01:55 < mnemoc> uhm?
01:55 < rene> to the remote server ..
01:55 < rene> I'll fixup some issues and rsync them again ...
01:55 < rene> I guess you had no time for the ld globbing and I "can" review?
01:56 < mnemoc> sure.... i aborted my generic after 98 errors
01:56 < rene> uh - so many errors?
01:56 < rene> all due to the globbing?
01:56 < rene> or other issues as well ?
01:56 < mnemoc> and wife-family isn't happy to have me plugged
01:56 < mnemoc> rene: i had rebuilded binutils
01:56 < rene> sure - relax
01:57 < mnemoc> but, but it doesn't seem to help
01:57 < mnemoc> i restarted a new one some hours ago
01:57 < mnemoc> most of a failures were due to cpp
01:57 < mnemoc> i'll be back
01:57 < rene> hm
01:57 < rene> cu - and relax and have fun ... !
01:58 < mnemoc> =) you too
01:58 < mnemoc> i suppose to be doing a milk to rafella
01:58 < mnemoc> rafaella*
01:58 < mnemoc> cu
02:06 < rene> mnemoc: I think you corrupted the versoin in beta2 tag
02:07 < rene> yep
02:07 < rene> -rockver=2.1.0-beta2
02:09 < mnemoc> re
02:10 < mnemoc> rene: 5220 did it but i fixed it
02:11 < rene> does not seem so ..
02:11 < rene> I fix it right now ..
02:11 < mnemoc> on 5225
02:11 < mnemoc> uhm?
02:11 < mnemoc> sure?
02:11 < rene> yes
02:11 < CIA-9> rene * r5231 /tags/2.1.0-beta2/scripts/parse-config:
02:11 < CIA-9> * fixed version in tag/2.1.0-beta2
02:11 < CIA-9> ssThis line, and those below, will be ignored--
02:11 < CIA-9> M parse-config
02:12 < rene> could you finally rm -rf svk until it is in some alpha state ?
02:12 < rene> or --dry-run --verbose-diff whatever before you trigger it's sync mechanism?
02:12 < mnemoc> svk was removed from my machine
02:13 < rene> good ;-)
02:13 < mnemoc> 5225 was done by plain svn, that was what deleayed it
02:13 < mnemoc> i had to re-checkout everything
02:13 < rene> 5225 does only modify:
02:13 < rene> Modified:
02:13 < rene> tags/2.1.0-beta2/
02:13 < rene> no the scripts/parse-config ...
02:14 < mnemoc> o_O
02:14 < rene> but do not worry - it is fixed ...
02:14 < mnemoc> dammit
02:14 < mnemoc> svn commit -N . scripts/ ignored scripts?
02:14 < mnemoc> or files on dir are considered recursion?
02:15 < mnemoc> G tags/2.1.0-beta2/scripts/parse-config
02:15 < mnemoc> big G, full merge :(
02:15 < mnemoc> i wasn't commited :\
02:15 -!- mnemoc changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 2.1.0-beta RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.exactcode.de/t2
02:16 < mnemoc> OT: what ISOs are you making? (target/arch)
02:21 < rene> desktop-pentium-mmx
02:22 < rene> and soon I start a desktiop-ppc750 build ...
02:22 < rene> but it will be released later - most people run x86 and ppc takes a while on my rs6k to build ...
02:23 < mnemoc> you crossbuild it?
02:23 < rene> what do you think was corssbuitd?
02:23 < mnemoc> i rs6k a ppc?
02:23 < mnemoc> is*
02:23 < rene> nope?
02:23 < rene> why do you think so ?
02:24 < mnemoc> "ppc takes a while on my rs6k to build"
02:24 < rene> yes - because the rs6k is so slow ...
02:24 < rene> 375Mhz or so ..
02:24 < rene> altough 786MB RAM or so ..
02:25 < mnemoc> this climate is damaging my brain
02:25 < rene> interesting that you do not like the hot ...
02:26 * rene does neither btw ...
02:26 < mnemoc> cold has easy solutions, hot doesn't
02:27 < rene> yep - my talking ;-)
02:28 < mnemoc> alergies are a nightmare too, and i can't breath
02:30 < CIA-9> rene * r5232 /tags/2.1.0-beta2/package/develop/swig/swig.desc: * reverted the swig update from r5044 (1.3.22 -> 1.3.21) in 2.1.0-beta2
--- Log closed Sun Dec 26 02:38:22 2004
--- Log opened Sun Dec 26 02:39:30 2004
02:44 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.199.104.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
02:44 -!- You're now known as rxr
02:45 < rxr> so
02:46 < mnemoc> ...
02:48 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5233 /trunk/package/develop/boehm-gc/boehm-gc.desc: * updated boehm-gc (6.3 -> 6.4)
02:49 < mnemoc> 17 minutes to Cleanup my broken generic-pmmx build :\
02:56 < CIA-9> rene * r5234 /tags/2.1.0-beta2/package/base/sysstat/ (linux26.patch prefix.patch sysstat.conf):
02:56 < CIA-9> * fixed sysstat by removing an non-applying patch, fixing it for 2.6
02:56 < CIA-9> headers and passing the config pathes via make command line (instead
02:56 < CIA-9> of patching)
02:56 < rxr> no worry I merge them back into trunk
02:57 < mnemoc> :)
02:58 < rxr> have I mentined that I need a faster subnotebook ...
02:58 < rxr> I hate it when CPU power is limiting me ...
02:58 < mnemoc> OT: if some day i achieve to create an ISO before you, what should i do with it?
02:59 < mnemoc> on my laptop, harddrive speed limits me much more that CPU power
02:59 < rxr> well - the problem with my TFH server is, that the uni pays for incomming traffic - so they will quickly jump on me if I create GB of incomming traffic ...
02:59 < rxr> so we should watch out for some external ISO mirror
03:00 < rxr> we can also schedule the work like I do desktop builds and you minimal ones or so ...
03:00 < rxr> but in the long term we should watch out for external ISO sites to provide the space and bandwidth
03:01 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. is the bash3 also segfaulting on you during ./debug.sh in src.* dirts?
03:01 < rxr> dirs even
03:01 < mnemoc> sometimes
03:01 < rxr> for me it is often
03:01 < rxr> on all arches - x86, ppc and sparc. ..
03:01 < rxr> I should continue to track this - it is annoying ...
03:06 < CIA-9> rene * r5235 /tags/2.1.0-beta2/scripts/Build-Pkg:
03:06 < CIA-9> * improved fixfilediff to be more handy - do not include ./ in the
03:06 < CIA-9> patch filenames ...
03:06 < CIA-9> rene * r5236 /tags/2.1.0-beta2/package/graphic/libsdl_ttf/freetype.patch: * fixed libsdl_ttf for recent freetype versions
03:06 < rxr> 1019 builds total, 985 completed fine, 33 with errors.
03:06 < mnemoc> :D
03:06 < mnemoc> did apache failed there?
03:07 < rxr> hm - no
03:07 < rxr> but jeru might comitted s.th. after it built on my athlon
03:07 < rxr> he did some option tweaking
03:09 < mnemoc> ok, i'll revert my local fixes then
03:09 < rxr> what local fixes?
03:09 < rxr> I meant jeru might have caused regressions ...
03:10 < mnemoc> i know he _did_ commit, but _will_ he commit new tweaks?
03:12 < rxr> no that I know of ..
03:12 < mnemoc> i'll se ic
03:12 < mnemoc> s/´'ll//
03:13 < rxr> I wrote committed ...
03:13 < rxr> if you ahve fixes do not revert but commit ...
03:13 < mnemoc> oh, i didn't see that
03:13 < rxr> 1019 builds total, 985 completed fine, 31 with errors.
03:13 < rxr> 2 have been error due to missing dep
03:13 < mnemoc> ii'll test them on the minimal + pkgsel i'm building now and commit if problems persist
03:15 < CIA-9> rene * r5237 /tags/2.1.0-beta2/package/base/rock-doc/: * removed rock-doc - as even done in rock linux recently IIRC
03:17 < rxr> 1018 builds total, 987 completed fine, 30 with errors.
03:18 < rxr> so - final CD is beeing created
03:18 < rxr> and then it is rsynced to the server in my slep phase
03:18 < rxr> announce tomorrow early evening
03:19 < mnemoc> 0:)
03:19 < mnemoc> S/o//
03:20 < mnemoc> err... caps lock
03:21 < rxr> for -beta3 my goal is below 15 errors for the desktop target
03:21 < mnemoc> rxr: can you add your commiter to misc/archive/ ?
03:21 < mnemoc> i want crossbuild working :)
03:23 < rxr> done
03:23 < CIA-9> rene * r5238 /tags/2.1.0-beta2/misc/archive/ (Commit.sh Update.sh):
03:23 < CIA-9> * added an Update helper script (Update some-pkg new-ver)
03:23 < CIA-9> * added an Commit helper scripts (Commit package/files...)
03:24 < rxr> they will be in trunk in aprox. 1 minute
03:24 < mnemoc> why Update and not ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdPatch
03:24 < rxr> because Update does call that script + Download + ChkSumPatch
03:25 < rxr> ;-)
03:25 < mnemoc> ic
03:25 < mnemoc> good helper
03:25 < rxr> it got too annoying to type that triplet that ofte n ...
03:26 < rxr> rersyncing
03:29 < CIA-9> rene * r5239 /trunk/ (8 files in 5 dirs): * merged r5232:HEAD fixes and additions from tags/2.1.0-beta2 into trunk
03:32 < CIA-9> rene * r5240 /trunk/package/develop/swig/swig.desc: * merged (forgotten) r5231:5232 (swig downdate) into trunk
03:32 < rxr> so - now all should be well
03:32 < mnemoc> :)
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03:37 < rxr> hi ideal
03:37 < rxr> t2-desktop-2.1.0-beta2_cd1.iso
03:37 < rxr> 607109120 100% 1005.14kB/s 0:09:49 (1, 25.0% of 4)
03:37 * mnemoc to bed... cu
03:37 < mnemoc> :D
03:37 < rxr> cu mnemoc
03:38 < mnemoc> hpow many discs?
03:38 < ideal> hi rxr
03:39 < ideal> finished your travel?
03:39 < rxr> nope - at my parents ...
03:39 < rxr> just doing a bit funny work
03:40 < ideal> :-D
03:41 < ideal> I'll try to download that distribution ASAP:-)
03:46 < CIA-9> rene * r5241 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/kernel26-disable.lst:
03:46 < CIA-9> * added CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AMD74XX to the list of known to not compile
03:46 < CIA-9> (and unneeded) kernel configs on PowerPC (we might strip all
03:46 < CIA-9> x86 IDE driver on PowerPC if we have spare time)
04:32 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/ChangeLog-t2
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04:32 < rxr> mathinc updated ...
04:33 < rxr> matching even
04:33 < rxr> so - n8 all
04:34 < rxr> hm - the new kernel might not compile on all arches
04:34 < rxr> at least on powerpc it fails
04:34 < rxr> sound/pci/emu10k1/emufx.c: In function `snd_emu10k1_fx8010_ioctl':
04:34 < rxr> sound/pci/emu10k1/emufx.c:2055: error: case label does not reduce to an integer constant
04:34 < rxr> sound/pci/emu10k1/emufx.c:2068: error: case label does not reduce to an integer constant
04:34 < rxr> but n8 now ...
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12:23 < jsaw> linux 2.6.10
12:47 < mnemoc> sure, we have it on trunk :)
12:48 < jsaw> hi mnemoc
12:48 < mnemoc> hi jsaw :)
12:49 < mnemoc> i got __stack_smash_handler problem on boot's linuxrc :'(
12:49 < jsaw> I gotta go.
12:49 < jsaw> No, not really.
12:49 < jsaw> :)
12:49 < jsaw> :(
12:49 < jsaw> :)
12:49 < mnemoc> :D
12:50 < jsaw> on linuxrc, how that? It's not linked to a libc, is it?
12:50 < mnemoc> diet iirc
12:50 < jsaw> hmmm.
12:51 < mnemoc> everything gets weirder and weirder
12:51 < jsaw> Will have a look into it tomorrow when I'm back home.
12:51 < mnemoc> sure
12:51 < mnemoc> how was xmas?
12:51 < jsaw> It's still great.
12:51 < mnemoc> :)
12:52 < jsaw> We had a turkey on christmas eve...
12:52 < jsaw> and an uncountable number of gifts, esp. for marlene
12:53 < jsaw> (at my in-laws)
12:54 < jsaw> yesterday we've been at my mom's place, and now we're back at my parents-in-law.
12:54 < jsaw> so, effectively three days in row with gifts for Marlene....
12:56 < mnemoc> no pre-gifts for charlotte?
12:56 < jsaw> For us, it was a cheap xmas (cheap as in 'my income is too low currently'). It was/is perfect that were not at home.
12:56 < jsaw> mnemoc: No. The gifts will come anyway then...
12:57 < mnemoc> true :)
12:57 < jsaw> But Steffi got an emergency package for the hospital...
12:57 < jsaw> (nice pyjamas, etc.)
12:57 < jsaw> mnemoc: and you?
12:59 < mnemoc> we went 24's night to my grand-parents' meeting, and yesterday to parents-in-law's.
13:00 < mnemoc> today we will go to do a kind of 'picpic' (meal centered) with my brothers-in-law (is that the word?)
13:00 < mnemoc> lot of presents for my daughters too :p
13:00 < mnemoc> they were very very happy
13:01 < jsaw> first, unpacking was much more interesting than the gifts itself, but a couple of hours later she was happy about the content too... :)
13:03 < mnemoc> unpacking is always the most funny part
13:05 < mnemoc> what was funny in my case was daughters stealing presents from the other daughter :p
13:05 < mnemoc> i have to go :\
13:05 < jsaw> cu mnemoc!
13:06 < mnemoc> see you
13:27 < jsaw> gone also...
16:41 < rxr> re
16:41 < rxr> hi jsaw and mnemoc
16:42 * sparc-kly drunked
19:30 < jsaw> re
19:33 < rxr> hi jsaw
19:35 < jsaw> hi rxr!
19:35 < jsaw> Survived or enjoyed xmas_
19:35 < jsaw> ?
19:35 < rxr> ouhm - I guess both
19:35 < jsaw> hehe
19:37 < jsaw> I read the replies to my email concerning the copyright tag. Besides the fact that the right terms still have to be found, I think I start working on it the next week.
19:38 < rxr> cool
19:40 < rxr> I only review why some packages that are broken are in the package.db and then release beta2
19:41 < jsaw> Another project I'll focus on (well, as far as I have time), is a hardware plugger ala rockplug, but in C, suitable for a ramdisk.
19:41 < rxr> please let's do this in C++ ...
19:42 < rxr> I think the code can be so much cleaner wih nice data abstraction
19:42 < jsaw> Do you really think it will be small?
19:42 < rxr> and I want to experiment with emebdded C++ and dietlibc anyway
19:42 < rxr> yes
19:43 < jsaw> But then a lot has to be re-done so there's not dependency on libstdc++, or?
19:43 < jsaw> s/not/no/
19:44 < rxr> well some tiny std:vector<> or so is quite lightweight
19:45 < jsaw> Well, I know that there should be no problem with template classes which provide the sources anyway, I guess std:vector is one of these cases.
19:45 < rxr> some have some locking which require linkage to stdc++ ... :-(
19:46 < jsaw> so we will have some kind of dietlibstdc++, ...?
19:47 < rxr> no - I donot plan to hack up the libstdc++
19:48 < jsaw> ic
19:49 < jsaw> if you talk about std::vector replacement, you mean something just for the purpose...
19:49 < rxr> I'll review stlport and do s.th. non-locking or so for embedded use
19:49 < rxr> if stlport also depends on some external lib
19:49 < jsaw> I don't think so
19:50 < jsaw> ouhm:
19:50 < jsaw> libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x400e7000)
19:50 < jsaw> libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4018e000)
19:50 < jsaw> libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x401ae000)
19:50 < jsaw> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x401b7000)
19:50 < jsaw> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)
19:50 < jsaw> (ldd /opt/OpenOffice-1.1/program/libstlport_gcc.so)
19:53 < jsaw> dinner. I have to leave, continueing about this later/tomorrow
19:53 < jsaw> cu rxr!
20:25 < rxr> cu jsaw
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22:51 < rxr> aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrgh
22:51 < rxr> just rm -rf'ed t2 ISOs ...
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23:39 < jsaw> re
23:40 < rxr> hi jsaw
23:40 < jsaw> hi rxr.
23:41 < jsaw> everybody went to bed. I'm smoking the last cigar+drinking calvados... how relaxing :)
23:41 < jsaw> (well actually cigarillos)
23:42 < rxr> ouh - smoking - nothing for me ...
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23:58 < jsaw> 100TByte tape drive? Have you read this?
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