T2 IRC Log: 2004-12-19

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--- Log opened Sun Dec 19 00:00:29 2004
00:09 < nullslack> pretty cool description of T2 from the website, no more bashing ;)
00:10 < nullslack> it looks more professional now ;)
00:11 < mnemoc> :D
00:11 < mnemoc> brb
00:13 < nullslack> can the download dir be symlinked?
00:13 < rxr> oehm - I think no IIRC
00:14 < rxr> it it is bind mounted into the sandbox later ...
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01:20 < maddin> gn8
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01:59 < rxr> n8 all
02:04 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr
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02:32 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.exactcode.de/t2
02:32 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Dec 18 15:39:34 2004]
02:32 [Users #t2]
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02:32 < mnemoc> i don't remember what problem did you had, but i know you had a problem with gzip :)
02:33 < jsaw> yes. But I build a bootdisk meanwhile. So I guess I commited it. What fails?
02:34 < mnemoc> i also tryed to crossbuild a generic for amd64 and ppc-g3 and both failed on 1-glibc. the odd part of it is amd64 failed because it tried to execute amd64 code, and g3 failed because of undefines :\
02:34 < mnemoc> creating config.status
02:34 < mnemoc> creating Makefile
02:34 < mnemoc> i386-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc -c -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DVOID_CLOSEDIR=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=int gzip.c
02:35 < mnemoc> make: *** [gzip.o] Error 250
02:35 < mnemoc> :\
02:36 < mnemoc> i'll try boot for pmmx now
02:37 < mnemoc> i have been some hours trying to understand those but it is over me :(
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02:42 < jsaw> hmm.
02:42 < jsaw> Error 250 seems to stem from cmd_wrapper
02:43 < mnemoc> /usr/src/building/t2/sandbox/src.gzip.1103391621.16152.0/gzip-1.2.4a:
02:43 < mnemoc> - i386-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc -c -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DVOID_CLOSEDIR=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=int gzip.c
02:43 < mnemoc> + diet i386-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc -idirafter /usr/src/building/t2/sandbox/build/boot-2.1.0-beta2-x86-i386-32-bootdisk/usr/include -nostdinc -Os -pipe -march=i386 -c -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DVOID_CLOSEDIR=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=int gzip.c -s
02:45 < jsaw> can you try with CMD_WRAPPER_DEBUG=1 ?
02:46 < jsaw> or edit cmd_wrapper.c and replace the 250's with 250,251,252,253,254 ?
02:46 < mnemoc> what do you want to see of it's output?
02:46 < jsaw> where cmd_wrapper failes
02:48 < mnemoc> flooded on query
03:13 < jsaw> bye bye.
03:13 < mnemoc> bye
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10:52 < maddin> moin
11:07 < rxr_> moin
11:07 -!- You're now known as rxr
12:19 < CIA-9> rene * r5140 /trunk/package/base/ (ifplugd/ifplugd.desc libdaemon/libdaemon.desc):
12:19 < CIA-9> * updated libdaemon (0.6 -> 0.7)
12:19 < CIA-9> * updated ifplugd (0.25 -> 0.26)
12:24 < rxr> hi maddin
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13:42 < maddin> hi rxr
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13:51 < maddin> re
14:08 < rxr> hi
15:09 < mnemoc> moin
15:10 < rxr> mon mnemoc
15:12 < rxr> moin even ..
15:13 < mnemoc> moin rxr
15:14 < mnemoc> jsaw: i got the same error buidling bootdisk for pmmx :\
15:15 < rxr> wrapper debug ?
15:17 < mnemoc> diet i386-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc -idirafter /usr/src/building/t2/sandbox/build/boot-2.1.0-beta2-x86-i386-32-bootdisk/usr/inc
15:17 < mnemoc> lude -nostdinc -Os -pipe -march=i386 -c -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DVOID_CLOSEDIR=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=int gzip.c -s
15:17 < mnemoc> that's executed, returning 250
15:17 < mnemoc> 1-gzip
15:21 < mnemoc> question: to run diet -v over that without re-wrapping it, should i replace i386-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc with TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/i386-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/gcc ?
15:21 < mnemoc> any other change to the line?
15:22 < rxr> no - absolute pass will surpass the wrapper ..
15:23 < rxr> you did not GCC_WRAPPER_DEBUG ?
15:24 < mnemoc> yes
15:24 < mnemoc> but i didn't got anything usefull
15:24 < mnemoc> running diet -v says: cc1: /usr/dietlibc/include/dietref.h: No such file or directory
15:24 < rxr> but there should be some output around those lines
15:25 < mnemoc> yes, Copy, Insert, blah blah blah
15:25 < mnemoc> do you want me to paste you that?
15:27 < rxr> ouh
15:27 < rxr> I removed APPEND_PO ...
15:27 < rxr> since I saw no use and it was senseless ...
15:27 < rxr> I grepped for it but overlooked dietlibc ...
15:27 < mnemoc> flood queried
15:27 < rxr> can you change the ...APPEND_PO in the dietlibc parse-config-9 or so to this:
15:27 < rxr> ...APPEND - so the _PO removed ...
15:28 < rxr> when you see the code you'll notice there was a special case for stage 1 ...
15:28 < jsaw> <- appears for a second:
15:29 < rxr> hi jsaw
15:29 < mnemoc> if [ "$stagelevel" -le 1 ] ; then var_append CC_WRAPPER_APPEND_PO " " "$1"
15:29 < jsaw> if dietref.h is not found, setting DIETHOME appropriately will do it.
15:29 < jsaw> if stagelevel -le 1, DIETHOME=$root/...
15:29 < rxr> mnemoc: ack - remove the trailing _PO
15:29 < jsaw> the APPEND_PO only adds libs
15:30 < rxr> maybe due to the wrapper change some -I order expansion changed ...
15:30 < rxr> but the wrapper fixup was very needed - the old code just did really unusable stuff ...
15:31 < mnemoc> hi DIETHOME rebuilding with _PO fix, but without DIETHOME fi
15:31 < mnemoc> x
15:31 < mnemoc> s/^hi //
15:31 < mnemoc> errr.
15:31 < mnemoc> *headache*
15:31 < mnemoc> rebuilding with _PO fix, but without DIETHOME fix
15:31 < mnemoc> same error
15:31 < rxr> I commit it anyway ...
15:31 < rxr> since _PO is gone ...
15:32 < jsaw> gotta go to the christmas market with my daughter, cu later...
15:32 < mnemoc> cu jsaw
15:32 < mnemoc> updating
15:32 < mnemoc> brb
15:33 < rxr> cu jsaw
15:33 < CIA-9> rene * r5141 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/parse-config-9: * fixed dietlibc to not use the non-existing WRAPPER_APPEND_PO variable
15:35 < rxr> wee - yeah - seems I found another bit the scanner likes to have set ...
15:41 < rxr> hm - strange yellow cloud on the syk ..
15:41 < rxr> if this is normal ...
15:41 < rxr> .oO(maybe should switch on news if there is some accident here in berlin ... )
15:46 < mipe> hmm... from the meteor hitting atmosphere? it happened morning in . dont know if the sky turns color because of it
15:47 < rxr> or is it just some very dark wet snow cloud that is lighted yellow from the sun ... ?
15:47 < mnemoc> uhm?
15:47 < rxr> this thing gets darker and darker ...
15:47 < mipe> probably
15:48 < rxr> hm - at least it is not smelling bruned in the outside ...
15:48 < mipe> you have digi cam. i wanna see it :)
15:48 < rxr> no - my digicam was stolen at last years CCC (chaos communication congress)
15:49 < rxr> and I had no spare money to buy a new one so far ...
15:49 < mnemoc> :\
15:49 < mnemoc> too much chaos
15:49 < mipe> its not even snowing here.... i hope we get "some" snow before xmas
15:49 < rxr> but I already took an analog photo - so in a months or so you can get a 16bit scan from one of the scanners here ... *g*
15:49 < mnemoc> how many scanners do you have there?
15:50 < rxr> my girlfriend said here was some snow in the morning - but I missed it ... since I was too tired from nightly hacking ...
15:50 < rxr> well - not including the two I already have away, let my count ...
15:50 < rxr> 6 i think
15:50 < mnemoc> :)
15:50 < rxr> plusone at my fathers house and one lend to valentin
15:51 < rxr> (I only bougth one of them ...)
15:53 < mnemoc> they are testing for you? :)
15:53 < rxr> no - not really ...
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15:54 < rxr> they should just work - as long as I do not cause regressions ...
15:54 < rxr> which does not happen that often ...
15:54 < mnemoc> hi Minto
15:54 < rxr> my farther just wanted to have a scanner - and I gave one to valentin because I had to scan some papers for him from time to time - and with new scanners from Avisoin my lab got to much filled by scanners ...
15:57 < rxr> oh - my got it dark here ...
16:02 < mipe> its dark in here too. few hours ago when i was at smoke i saw moon and shit. but not anymore. and i's suppose to be clear sky alteast weather report says so
16:03 < rxr> mipe: where are you locatd ?
16:03 < mipe> fin
16:03 < rxr> located even
16:03 < mipe> land
16:03 < rxr> ho cool
16:03 < rxr> welcome over there ;-)
16:03 < mipe> :)
16:04 < mnemoc> people form both edges of the world on the same channel :)
16:05 < mipe> mnemoc i heard you had some troubles cross compiling the amd64 thingie. what was those?
16:05 < mnemoc> 1-glibc tryed to execute amd64 code in here :\
16:05 < mnemoc> segfaulting
16:06 < mipe> yeah. i got lots of segfaults in here too. when i tryed to build it from fc3(64). but currently downloading freebsd(i heard its stable on 64bit) to use as base for t2 64
16:07 < rxr> ouh - that will nor work - yet
16:07 < mipe> ?
16:07 < rxr> currently you need linux to bootstrap T2 Linux ....
16:07 < mipe> i better cancel that download :)
16:07 < mnemoc> :)
16:08 < rxr> I mean - I even have access to a Amd64 FreeBSD box - and they already ask if I want to test cross building T2 on it ...
16:08 < mipe> hmmm.... then i have to use 32bit edition from somewhere.
16:08 < rxr> but currently I think the count of needed adaptions does not outweight the benefit ...
16:09 < rxr> if all goes well I'll invest into a Amd64 box in the first quater of next year
16:09 < mnemoc> rxr: i guess the addaptions to do full-crossbuilds will be enough
16:09 < rxr> yeah - but they are enough ...
16:09 < rxr> (work)
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17:17 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5142 /trunk/ (. package/network/ktcpvs/ktcpvs.desc): * updated ktcpvs (0.0.15 -> 0.0.18)
17:19 < mnemoc> yahooo!!!! svk finally fixed!
17:19 < rxr> are you sure ?
17:19 < rxr> how do you know with this 50+
17:20 < rxr> dependencies and such ...
17:20 < mnemoc> cpan can install it easily
17:21 < mnemoc> tomorrow clkao will release 0.27
17:21 < mnemoc> that last commit was done by svk
17:21 < mnemoc> fresh depot, fresh branch
17:23 < mnemoc> bbl =)
17:24 < mnemoc> btw, libgsf and gimp has new releases
17:24 < mnemoc> bbl
17:24 < rxr> hehe - cu
17:24 < mnemoc> :)
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19:04 < CIA-9> rene * r5143 /trunk/scripts/Download:
19:04 < CIA-9> * improved scripts/Download to version the cached mirror and so reget
19:04 < CIA-9> the mirror list after T2 version changes. People will benefit from
19:04 < CIA-9> rechecking for new and nearer/faster mirrors, and we get more
19:04 < CIA-9> accurate usage statistics ;-)
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19:30 < rxr> jsut to prevent duplicate work
19:30 < rxr> I'm working on this pacakges:
19:30 < rxr> openh323
19:30 < rxr> pwlib
19:30 < rxr> gnumeric
19:30 < rxr> gnucash
19:30 < rxr> gnomemeeting
19:30 < rxr> glib
19:30 < rxr> gtk+
19:30 < rxr> pangogimp
19:31 < rxr> well:
19:31 < rxr> pango
19:31 < rxr> gimp
19:31 < rxr> damn cut'n paste ..
19:36 < CIA-9> rene * r5144 /trunk/package/base/hddtemp/hddtemp.desc:
19:36 < CIA-9> * updated the hddtemp database (2004-11-29 -> 2004-12-19) in the hope
19:36 < CIA-9> it will be on the mirrors until it is updated again ...
19:49 < CIA-9> rene * r5145 /trunk/scripts/Create-ErrList: * added -dry-run to the Usage text of Create-ErrList
20:03 < rxr> ouhm - I built a whole system build with ccache enabled ...
20:03 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache enabled: 9.33% cache hits so far in ccache.chroot.
20:05 < rxr> ouhm - du over the ccache.* directories "takes some time"
20:06 < jsaw> download/mirror/l/libdaemon-0.7.tar.bz2.incomplete: HTML document text
20:06 < jsaw> ERROR: File type does not match filename (bzip2 compressed data)!
20:07 < jsaw> (nexus)
20:07 < jsaw> ???
20:07 < rxr> I also saw this
20:08 < rxr> I think it is either a bug in the download script (which I do not think that hardly since we did so less modifications) or an bug in recent curls? not doing 404 error handling correctly ?
20:08 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 10.06% (16 hits, 143 misses)
20:09 < rxr> for the fact that the glib-2.6 was not build before, not too bad ... ;-)
20:09 < rxr> but the cache takes rediculous ammounts of disc space - du still running
20:12 < rxr> 108M ccache.cross/
20:14 < rxr> hm - the thousands of directory access inside this cache dirs is a bit slow on my Reiser3.6 Linux 2.6.9 or so box ...
20:14 < rxr> ah
20:14 < rxr> 887M ccache.chroot/
20:14 < rxr> I expected more ....
20:41 < rxr> isn't this reasonable:
20:41 < rxr> - choice ROCKCFG_ABORT_ON_ERROR_STAGE 5 \+ choice ROCKCFG_ABORT_ON_ERROR_STAGE 4 \
20:41 < rxr> ?
20:54 < CIA-9> rene * r5146 /trunk/scripts/Build-Target:
20:54 < CIA-9> * improved line-wrapping for the Build-Target error text for failed
20:54 < CIA-9> binary package creation ...
22:09 < rxr> re
22:24 < maddin> hi rxr
23:20 < maddin> gn8
23:25 < rxr> n8 maddin
23:27 < maddin> n8 rxr
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