T2 IRC Log: 2004-10-23

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--- Log opened Sat Oct 23 00:00:19 2004
00:44 < rxr> re
00:44 < rxr> n8 martin
00:44 < rxr> hi mnemoc
00:46 < rxr> new T2 install method: cloning existing systems ;-)
00:46 < rxr> my brother's iBook is now running t2:HEAD from 1:1 deployed from my iBook ... ;-)
00:51 < CIA-10> rene * r4438 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/etc_rc.d_rc.txt:
00:51 < CIA-10> * fixed /etc/rc.d/rc to warn about missing executable bits instead of
00:51 < CIA-10> ignoring them silently (saves a lot of time tracking defect systems)
00:51 < CIA-10> - untested, please review
00:52 < mnemoc> rxr: stealing /etc/ROCKCONFIG ?
00:52 < rxr> hm, what?
00:53 < mnemoc> i missundertood, install != build
00:53 < mnemoc> or config
00:54 < mnemoc> .oO( why every cool program i found is k* :\ )o
00:54 < rxr> mnemoc: it is late here, and I just dived thru a lot of shitty shell code, I need more complete sentences right now to be able to follow you ;-)
00:55 < mnemoc> i need to sleep before writing more complete sentences
00:55 < rxr> what k* programs did you find?
00:55 < CIA-10> rene * r4439 /trunk/package/base/linux26/disable-broken.lst: * reenabled SBP2 for linux26
00:56 < mnemoc> umbrella and rekall
00:56 < rxr> ah yes ;-)
00:56 < mnemoc> they are both unique, and both missing in ROCK and t2 :)
00:57 < rxr> in general I found so far kde* programs have a much higher quality compared to the g* equivalents ...
00:57 < rxr> umbrella should be in kdesdk AFAK
00:57 < rxr> if we both speak about the kde UML modeller ...
00:57 < mnemoc> gtk >> qt, but k* >> g* :'(
00:57 < mnemoc> yes
00:57 < rxr> gtk >> qt?, no way! Why do you think so?
00:58 < rxr> I just built a linux26 kernel with most disable broken things removed - just to declare the file as looked until tomorrow morning ;-)
00:58 < mnemoc> too messy
00:58 < rxr> yes, gtk+ is too messy ;-)
00:59 < mnemoc> :\
00:59 < rxr> been there, done that - never again
00:59 < mnemoc> you code for qt?
00:59 < rxr> well not active
01:00 < rxr> but I did much gtk+ and especially gtkmm stuff in the past - I know why I hate it ..
01:00 < rxr> althought with the *mm wrappers it is at least usable ....
01:00 < mnemoc> :)
01:00 < rxr> s/usable/not as annoying as the plain C equivalent/
01:01 -!- martin [~martin@brln-d9ba1ddb.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
01:01 < mnemoc> you hate any plain C code :p
01:02 < rxr> nope ;-)
01:02 < CIA-10> rene * r4440 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/startxdm.sh: * improved startxdm to use exec $XDM
01:02 < rxr> not "any" *g*
01:03 < mnemoc> *g*
01:03 < rxr> .oO (ANSI C is a beast of the past, error prone and offering security problems at every corner - it is better avoided where possible)
01:03 < mnemoc> C --> C++ - streaming --> C# :p
01:03 < CIA-10> valentin * r4441 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/etc_rc.d_rc.txt: * bugfix for r4438 (still untested!)
01:03 < mnemoc> i have to go
01:03 < rxr> cu mnemoc
01:03 < rxr> mnemoc: btw, I'm not at home the next days ...
01:04 < rxr> mnemoc: so I'll only be around here every now and then ...
01:04 < rxr> (fathers 50. birthday and linux world expo thereafter ...)
01:21 < rxr> n8 all
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07:09 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | http://www.exactcode.de/oss/t2 | lim (t -> 2.1.0) err (t) = 0 | Have fun!
07:09 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Tue Oct 19 00:33:31 2004]
07:09 [Users #t2]
07:09 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ CIA-10] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc_] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin]
07:09 [ blindcod2r] [ daja77] [ martin] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
07:09 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
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07:09 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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07:17 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.212.7.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
07:28 -!- blindcod2r is now known as blindcoder
07:28 < blindcoder> moin
10:34 -!- martin [~martin@brln-d9ba0810.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit ["[BX] Occifer, take me drunk, I'm home"]
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10:36 < martin> moin
10:49 < rxr_> mion
10:49 -!- You're now known as rxr
10:51 < CIA-10> rene * r4442 /trunk/package/base/linux26/disable-broken.lst:
10:51 < CIA-10> * removed a lot drivers from linux26/disable-broken.lst, but added
10:51 < CIA-10> CONFIG_FB_RADEON_OLD since it s obsolete and oopses with in-kernel
10:51 < CIA-10> radeon support
10:58 < martin> hi rxr
10:59 < rxr> hi martin
10:59 * rxr off again - cu
16:19 < mnemoc_> moin
18:33 < rxr> re
18:33 < mnemoc_> hi rxr
18:34 < rxr> hi mnemoc_ !
18:34 < rxr> we have quite some good beer left from my fathers birthday here ...
18:35 < rxr> to bad we do not have transporters, yet ...
18:35 < mnemoc_> yeah :(
19:26 < _Ragnar_> moin
19:27 < rxr> moin _Ragnar_
19:27 < _Ragnar_> morsche ... what's new?
19:32 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc
20:10 < martin> gn8
20:11 < rxr> n8 martin
20:11 [Users #t2]
20:11 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ CIA-10] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ sparc-kly]
20:11 [ blindcoder] [ daja77] [ martin] [ rxr ] [ valentin ]
20:11 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 10 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal]
20:53 < CIA-10> rene * r4443 /trunk/package/base/module-init-tools/modprobe.conf.data:
20:53 < CIA-10> * cleaned the default etc/modprobe.conf to load the OSS drivers
20:53 < CIA-10> (the new modprobe does not suppport aliases to aliases ...)
21:02 < CIA-10> rene * r4444 /trunk/package/ (16 files in 4 dirs):
21:02 < CIA-10> * added digikam and it's requirements: libpiki, libkexif and libexif
21:02 < CIA-10> (the digicam package sucks a bit, when the configure detects a
21:02 < CIA-10> missing requirements it is sliently ignored and no error returned
21:02 < CIA-10> ... :-( - we should fix this later)
21:16 < valentin> hey, r4444
21:33 < CIA-10> rene * r4445 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-tools/alsa-tools.conf:
21:33 < CIA-10> * do not build alsa-tools/sb16_csp on powerpc due to compilation
21:33 < CIA-10> errors
22:51 < rxr> moin
22:52 < rxr> yeah - 4444 cool ;-)
22:52 < rxr> we already passed 666m, so ...
22:52 < rxr> so, nothing going on here?, -> off again ...
22:52 < mnemoc> :)
23:54 < rxr> re
23:54 < rxr> valentin: I have a cool fix just done, that speeds up pbbuttonsd by some multiple hundred percent ...
23:57 < valentin> rxr: tell me
23:58 < rxr> Committed revision 4446.
23:58 < mnemoc> bootdisk? :)
23:58 < CIA-10> rene * r4446 /trunk/package/filesystem/devfsd/devfsd.conf.data:
23:58 < CIA-10> * fixed devfs default configuration to not run modprobe on any event,
23:58 < CIA-10> but filter some events often open'd but seldom used to trigger
23:58 < CIA-10> module load (speeds up pbbuttonsd start significantly ;-)
23:58 < rxr> installing t2 on other boxes is such a cool "fix the annoying box motivation"
23:58 < rxr> mnemoc: what was your bootdisk problem?
23:59 < rxr> mnemoc: while waiting for the answer I boot into 2.6.9 ...
23:59 < mnemoc> it's dummy... bdb is not installing it's libraries
--- Log closed Sun Oct 24 00:00:33 2004