T2 IRC Log: 2004-10-15
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--- Log opened Fri Oct 15 00:00:42 2004
00:01 < jsaw> I'm off now seeing the real world for a couple of hours :) cu 2morrow.
00:02 < rxr> cu jsaw
00:17 * rxr relocating me in the living root ...
00:18 < Ragnar0k> you got root?
00:19 < rxr> Ragnar0k: ?
00:19 < mnemoc> Ragnar0k: room
00:20 < rxr> ah - yep - room it should have been ...
00:20 < mnemoc> Ragnar0k: you need to wrap every sense we say :)
00:21 < Ragnar0k> *grins*
00:22 < CIA-9> rene * r4338 /trunk/package/ (base/fuse/ filesystem/fuse/): * moved fuse from base into filesystem
00:24 < daja77> yeah
00:24 < daja77> 00:24 <@CIO> daja invented the wheel! This wondrous godsend has accelerated them 0 days, 08:39:18 towards level 61.
00:25 < Ragnar0k> *grins*
00:28 -!- blindcod1r [~blindcode@dsl-213-023-155-217.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2
00:34 < mnemoc> and idle game of freenode?
00:34 < mnemoc> on*
00:35 < mnemoc> at?
00:35 < mnemoc> on or at?
00:35 < daja77> on ircnet :)
00:35 < CIA-9> rene * r4339 /trunk/package/filesystem/fuse/ (fuse.conf fuse.desc postlinux.conf):
00:35 < CIA-9> * fixed fuse to only build the user-space stuff in the main package
00:35 < CIA-9> (updated the project URL on the way)
00:36 < mnemoc> :(
00:36 < daja77> hm?
00:36 < daja77> i am on that freenode thing too
00:37 < mnemoc> uhm?
00:37 < daja77> you asked me ..
00:40 < rxr> so /me did some more cleanup / infrastructure work and fixed fuse and siefs for now on the way ;-)
00:41 < mnemoc> daja77: i'm confused, are you idling (CIO) on ircnet or on freenode?
00:41 < CIA-9> rene * r4340 /trunk/package/filesystem/ (fuse/fuse.desc siefs/siefs.desc):
00:41 < CIA-9> * updated fuse (1.1 -> 1.4) and siefs (0.2 -> 0.4) - the later includes
00:41 < CIA-9> URL updates
00:41 < daja77> mnemoc: on ircnet, private game with a few players, on freenode the official network game
00:41 < daja77> cio is on ircnet
00:42 < mnemoc> which is the channel on freenode?
00:42 < mnemoc> i'm idling at efnet :) i'm a k3w1 guy :p
00:42 < rxr> hm - fuck
00:42 < rxr> I again have a url that crashes curl ...
00:42 < mnemoc> amen
00:43 < rxr> hm - maybe I just update curl on the server ...
00:43 < mnemoc> oh
00:43 < rxr> 678.2%./scripts/Download: line 791: 2602 Segmentation fault (core dumped) curl -w '\rFinished downloading %{size_download} bytes in %{time_total} seconds (%{speed_download} bytes/sec). \n' -f --progress-bar $resume $curl_options "$url" -o "$gzfile.incomplete"
00:43 < rxr> ERROR: CURL Returned Error 139. Please read the curl manpage.
00:43 < mnemoc> outch
00:43 < rxr> curl 7.10.3 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.10.3 OpenSSL/0.9.7a ipv6 zlib/1.1.4
00:43 < daja77> mnemoc: #idlerpg
00:43 < rxr> I alread had this on some other box in the past ...
00:44 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@dsl-213-023-153-008.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)]
00:48 < rxr> hm - even the T2:HEAD curl does segfault .-(
00:48 < rxr> it downloaded ok on my iBook :-(
00:54 < rxr> jsaw: stange I do not get your ash error here ...
00:55 < rxr> hm - I first continue postlinux stuff - more important
00:55 < rxr> I look into build errors happening on my side first - but for cross reference the files on your server would be a help ....
01:20 < rxr> oh my - the more I dive thru the build code again - the more I'm influenced to write this in a more modular and object oriented way from scratch - sigh
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01:45 < CIA-9> rene * r4341 /trunk/scripts/ (Build-Pkg functions):
01:45 < CIA-9> * factored some code out of Build-Pkg into functions
01:45 < CIA-9> (Needed for the postlinux lightweight sub-package build stuff.
01:45 < CIA-9> So far tested wiith a few packages - I try to commit tiny change-
01:45 < CIA-9> sets for better review. The next time I'll open an own branch for
01:45 < CIA-9> such work - so better do not svn up in a running build right now ...)
01:51 < CIA-9> rene * r4342 /trunk/scripts/ (Build-Pkg functions): * factored out $archdir population
02:12 * rxr now trying linux26 w/ sub-package build with my clean - non-prototype code ...
02:12 < CIA-9> rene * r4343 /trunk/scripts/functions: * the next build_package code chunk
03:23 < mnemoc> rxr: Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/g/gtk-xfce-engine-2.1.9.tar.bz2.cksum-err (4119904213)
03:26 < rxr> ouhm
03:29 < rxr> Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/g/gtk-xfce-engine-2.1.9.tar.bz2.cksum-err (4119904213)
03:30 * rxr tooo
03:30 < rxr> -o
03:30 < mnemoc> rxr: how can i 'kill' an screen window?
03:33 < mnemoc> :)
03:35 < rxr> what way of killing?
03:35 < rxr> C-k ?
03:37 < mnemoc> thanks
03:48 < mnemoc> rxr: do you think we should start using pkgsel_parse now or wait after 2.1?
03:48 < mnemoc> i think it's ready
03:49 < mnemoc> i would only like to automatize target/$target/pkgsel too
03:51 < rxr> I still have to take a look, when it is ok and works we could start to switch more over ...
03:51 < rxr> so - me bed (3:51 here ...)
03:51 < rxr> n8 all
03:51 < mnemoc> n8 rxr
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05:20 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r4344 /trunk/target/bootdisk/config.in: * fix bootdisk config s/PKG_LINUX_DEFAULT/DEFAULT_KERNEL/ :-)
08:03 < blindcoder> moin
10:55 < rxr> moin
11:00 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.196.90.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
11:00 -!- Topic for #t2: T2, a preleminary name. Submit cool naming suggestions (without linux) here ;-)
11:00 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Wed Oct 6 17:56:16 2004]
11:00 [Users #t2]
11:00 [ _Lewellyn ] [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ Ragnar0k] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin]
11:00 [ blindcoder] [ daja77] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
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11:11 < rxr> http://www.kde.org/stuff/clipart/konqi-magical-rope-video-720x576-divx.avi
11:12 < blindcoder> what's that?
11:12 < rxr> kde promotion video
11:12 < rxr> (what elese ;-)
11:19 < blindcoder> guess i'll make myself a Grog tonight for sleeping :/
11:23 < rxr> :/
11:24 < blindcoder> damn "Grippe"
11:26 < CIA-9> rene * r4345 /trunk/package/xfce4/gtk-xfce-engine2/gtk-xfce-engine2.desc: * injected the new cgtk-xfce-ngine2 checksum
11:28 < rxr> oh :-(
11:32 < blindcoder> heh, funny clip actually :)
11:57 < rxr> hm - not funy what bugs got introduced in 2.1 ...
11:57 < rxr> .oO(I know why I forked ...)
12:08 < rxr> good that my target 2.1 date is end of this month - so we can start the designed from the ground C++ system soon *g*!
12:16 < CIA-9> rene * r4346 /trunk/scripts/functions:
12:16 < CIA-9> * initialize custmain
12:16 < CIA-9> * some more build_package bits (postlinux.conf work)
12:22 < rxr> cool ! Yeah - so this cleaner prototype get's into shape
12:22 * rxr showering and breakfast - and then we should soon have the postlinux thing
13:35 < rxr> hm - not much happening on IRC today :-(
13:35 < blindcoder> yeah
13:36 < blindcoder> even #nethack is more or less idle
13:36 < daja77> perhaps turning into an idlegame
13:37 < blindcoder> hmm
13:37 < blindcoder> yeah, nao has only 5 games running at the moment
14:16 < CIA-9> lars * r4347 /trunk/package/network/iptables/rocknet_iptables.sh:
14:16 < CIA-9> * Fixed a small typo in rocknet_iptables.sh
14:16 < CIA-9> (Now t2 has seven real! commiters :-)
14:17 < rxr> hey cool!
14:30 < rxr> lol
14:41 < rxr> == 10/16/04 14:42:47 =[9]=> Finished building package sysfiles.
14:43 < CIA-9> rene * r4348 /trunk/package/develop/icecream/ (icecream.conf no-cc-links.patch):
14:43 < CIA-9> * patched icecream to not create default cc* links and removed the
14:43 < CIA-9> /opt/icecream defaultl prefix
14:44 < CIA-9> rene * r4349 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/ (mkinitrd.sh sysfiles.conf):
14:44 < CIA-9> * added the mkinitrd to the sysfiles package - previously the "default"
14:44 < CIA-9> kernel installed it - and we do not have this "default" kernel
14:44 < CIA-9> concept any longer
14:47 < CIA-9> rene * r4350 /trunk/package/base/linux24/ (config-500.hlp config-500.in):
14:47 < CIA-9> * removed the obsolete "default" kernel option from the linux* config
14:47 < CIA-9> options
14:51 < rxr> well, this is a particularly cool main from the gcc list:
14:51 < rxr> hi to all,
14:51 < rxr> i am developing cross compiler for arm 10tdmi. but i like to know whether it is already implemented in the latest version or not. same time i need reference manual for arm 10tdmi.
14:51 < rxr> yours truly
14:51 < rxr> aram
14:56 < blindcoder> I'm not sure if I understand that correctly
14:57 < CIA-9> rene * r4351 /trunk/package/powerpc/linux-mol/:
14:57 < CIA-9> * removed linux-mol (postlinux building from the mol package is on the
14:57 < CIA-9> way)
15:24 < mnemoc> moin
15:24 < mnemoc> rxr: have you build bootdisks reciently
15:24 < mnemoc> ?
15:26 < rxr> ouhm - this is already some days in the past, why? Some problem?
15:26 < rxr> moin btw *g*
15:26 < mnemoc> i selected linux26 as default and linux24 failed to build
15:27 < mnemoc> moin rxr :)
15:27 < mnemoc> and btw, linux24 is quite outdated :p
15:29 < rxr> what do you mean with outdated?
15:29 < mnemoc> 28-presomething
15:29 < rxr> btw we do not have some sort of default compiler anymore ...
15:29 < rxr> have I missed a release ...
15:30 < mnemoc> .30
15:30 < rxr> latest is 2.4.28-pre4
15:30 < mnemoc> uhm?
15:30 < mnemoc> o_O
15:30 < mnemoc> ok.... ignore that
15:30 < rxr> we ship -pre3 ...
15:30 < rxr> I can bump the version if this makes you feel better?
15:30 < rxr> *g*
15:30 < mnemoc> bootdisk target asks if default=linux26 to remove lvm
15:31 < rxr> ouhm - what kind of code went in it in rock :-(
15:31 < mnemoc> rxr: somehow i got confused.... don't worry
15:31 < rxr> well when my postlinux.conf stuff all builds (still struggling with it)
15:31 < rxr> I get my hands dirty w/ the bootdisk ...
15:31 < mnemoc> :D
15:32 < rxr> mnemoc: you already read the news that we do not have this "defualt kernel concept" anymore?
15:32 < mnemoc> maybe :)
15:33 < rxr> maybe?
15:33 < rxr> why the hell have I cloop still in extra ...
15:33 < mnemoc> another thing, pkgsel_* stuff is at scripts/functions, shouldn't it be at config.func ?
15:33 < rxr> s.th. messed up there
15:33 < rxr> yes ;-) sure
15:33 < mnemoc> i'll move it them
15:34 < rxr> use a tab aware copy mechanism1
15:35 < rxr> ! ;-)
15:35 < mnemoc> i'm slow today, can you develop that idea?
15:35 < CIA-9> rene * r4352 /: * re-removed cloop (damn svn usability bug)
15:35 < mnemoc> dd :wn p :w ?
15:36 < rxr> mnemoc: ? what ?
15:36 < mnemoc> vi :)
15:36 < rxr> if the tabs stay intact ;-!
15:36 < mnemoc> sure
15:36 < rxr> ;-)
15:37 < rxr> it is really cool that you packaged tla ;-)
15:38 < mnemoc> why?
15:39 < rxr> just that we have it ;-) I did not expected that and was suprised ;-)
15:40 < mnemoc> hehe
15:40 < mnemoc> i use tla in my own development
16:14 < CIA-9> rene * r4353 /trunk/package/graphic/libtiff/libtiff.desc: * updated libtiff (3.7.0beta2 -> 3.7.0) - tested
16:18 < rxr> http://meshcube.org/
16:39 < rxr> so - until 18.oo I think I shoudl be able to comit the basic postlinux stuff ..
16:39 < rxr> where cloop builds ... ;-)
16:39 < rxr> (damn trial'n error on the slow iBook)
16:40 < rxr> I'll commit the other work-in-progress postlinux stuff, too (unfunctional) and polish them on my athlon ... - the iBook is just a bit slow for such tasks ...
17:40 * rxr soon back
17:58 < mnemoc> re
17:59 < mnemoc> rxr: if you don't _choose_ a default kernel, what headers will you use to build glibc?
18:06 < rxr> the only one linux-header package we have in t2
18:06 < rxr> that is intended to be as up to date as possible - ours is at 2.6.8.1 or so ..
18:07 < rxr> re
18:09 < mnemoc> oh
18:13 < rxr> a good or a bad oh?
18:16 < mnemoc> i feel strange to have linux26 headers on a linux24-only machine :)
18:30 < rxr> well they just define the ABI and constatns and such, the kernel is intended to be ABI backward compoatible - so it does not make sense to build the kernel with old headers ... - different choices just are maintenance nightmar
18:30 < rxr> e
18:30 < mnemoc> ic
18:49 < rxr> and you can not update them in a running system (shared files conflicts)
18:58 * rxr splaps the cloop folks many tims#
18:58 < rxr> .oO(/me fixing a damn crap peace of code just for the sake or reference implementation proofing my postlinux stuff works out ...)
18:59 < rxr> those poeple seem to have cool drugs, too
19:02 < rxr> and this knopper wanted to argue rock linux sucks when he can not even produce Makefiles ...
19:24 < daja77> did he argue? iirc that i'x guy ws always talking ...
19:43 < rxr> yes, ok the iX guy more ...
19:50 < CIA-9> lars * r4354 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/system.init: * to make system.init create /tmp/.ICE-unix with appropriate permissions
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20:17 < freed> hi all
20:18 < rxr> hi freed
20:18 < freed> sag ma rxr kennst du ein gutes sed howto. jetzt koennte ich sed ma gebrauchen
20:20 < rxr> haha ;-)
20:20 -!- Netsplit tolkien.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: sparc-kly, BoS, _Lewellyn, blindcoder, jsaw, mnemoc
20:20 < rxr> the o'reily sed book is quite good
20:20 < rxr> or man sed ;-)
20:20 < rxr> or google for it ...
20:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: BoS, blindcoder, _Lewellyn, sparc-kly, mnemoc, jsaw
20:21 < freed> o reily is a good idea
20:25 < rxr> I pasted the expression you might want into the query ...
20:27 < freed> thx rxr
20:30 < rxr> freed: #t2 should be a nice regex support channel *g* we use them a lot ...
20:30 < freed> hehe
20:31 < freed> i must learn more about regex
20:32 < freed> i am still too uncertainly in handling with regex
20:35 < rxr> isn't there some "wahl" lecture at our university about regex *g*?
20:38 < freed> mmh i dont know
20:56 < CIA-9> rene * r4355 /trunk/package/kde/ (kdenetwork/kdenetwork.desc kdepim/kdepim.desc):
20:56 < CIA-9> * fixed kdepim and kdenetwork .desc files to correctly document where
20:56 < CIA-9> kmail is included nowadays, as well as some other updates
21:21 < CIA-9> rene * r4356 /trunk/package/network/ppp/ip-up:
21:21 < CIA-9> * fixed the annoying bug that PPP connection initiations fill our
21:21 < CIA-9> /etc/resolv.conf with comment lines - additionally improved the
21:21 < CIA-9> script to mess with automatically added lines, only ...
21:50 < CIA-9> rene * r4357 /trunk/package/network/ppp/ppp.desc: * updated the ppp download URL and added a general URL tag
21:59 < CIA-9> rene * r4358 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg:
21:59 < CIA-9> * added "where" text arguments to two uncommented aborts in Build-Pkg
21:59 < CIA-9> to save hours of tracking what is actually going wrong ;-)
22:20 < CIA-9> rene * r4359 /trunk/scripts/functions:
22:20 < CIA-9> * the first working build_(sub)package implementation ;-)
22:20 < CIA-9> (it does still contain some commented code to be removed later,
22:20 < CIA-9> as well as to be done optimizations left)
22:29 < CIA-9> rene * r4360 /trunk/package/base/linux24/ (kernelversion.sh linux24.conf lx_config.sh mkinitrd.sh):
22:29 < CIA-9> * removed "default" kernel stuff, mkinitrd.sh kernelversion.sh from
22:29 < CIA-9> the linux* packages
22:29 < CIA-9> * implemented (sub)package build for 3rd pary modules (tested with
22:29 < CIA-9> cloop and fuse so far)
22:29 < CIA-9> * cleanups on the way
22:31 < CIA-9> rene * r4361 /trunk/package/filesystem/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * implemented fuse and cloop postlinux kernel build - tested (w/ 2.6)
--- Log closed Sat Oct 16 00:00:56 2004
00:01 < jsaw> I'm off now seeing the real world for a couple of hours :) cu 2morrow.
00:02 < rxr> cu jsaw
00:17 * rxr relocating me in the living root ...
00:18 < Ragnar0k> you got root?
00:19 < rxr> Ragnar0k: ?
00:19 < mnemoc> Ragnar0k: room
00:20 < rxr> ah - yep - room it should have been ...
00:20 < mnemoc> Ragnar0k: you need to wrap every sense we say :)
00:21 < Ragnar0k> *grins*
00:22 < CIA-9> rene * r4338 /trunk/package/ (base/fuse/ filesystem/fuse/): * moved fuse from base into filesystem
00:24 < daja77> yeah
00:24 < daja77> 00:24 <@CIO> daja invented the wheel! This wondrous godsend has accelerated them 0 days, 08:39:18 towards level 61.
00:25 < Ragnar0k> *grins*
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00:34 < mnemoc> and idle game of freenode?
00:34 < mnemoc> on*
00:35 < mnemoc> at?
00:35 < mnemoc> on or at?
00:35 < daja77> on ircnet :)
00:35 < CIA-9> rene * r4339 /trunk/package/filesystem/fuse/ (fuse.conf fuse.desc postlinux.conf):
00:35 < CIA-9> * fixed fuse to only build the user-space stuff in the main package
00:35 < CIA-9> (updated the project URL on the way)
00:36 < mnemoc> :(
00:36 < daja77> hm?
00:36 < daja77> i am on that freenode thing too
00:37 < mnemoc> uhm?
00:37 < daja77> you asked me ..
00:40 < rxr> so /me did some more cleanup / infrastructure work and fixed fuse and siefs for now on the way ;-)
00:41 < mnemoc> daja77: i'm confused, are you idling (CIO) on ircnet or on freenode?
00:41 < CIA-9> rene * r4340 /trunk/package/filesystem/ (fuse/fuse.desc siefs/siefs.desc):
00:41 < CIA-9> * updated fuse (1.1 -> 1.4) and siefs (0.2 -> 0.4) - the later includes
00:41 < CIA-9> URL updates
00:41 < daja77> mnemoc: on ircnet, private game with a few players, on freenode the official network game
00:41 < daja77> cio is on ircnet
00:42 < mnemoc> which is the channel on freenode?
00:42 < mnemoc> i'm idling at efnet :) i'm a k3w1 guy :p
00:42 < rxr> hm - fuck
00:42 < rxr> I again have a url that crashes curl ...
00:42 < mnemoc> amen
00:43 < rxr> hm - maybe I just update curl on the server ...
00:43 < mnemoc> oh
00:43 < rxr> 678.2%./scripts/Download: line 791: 2602 Segmentation fault (core dumped) curl -w '\rFinished downloading %{size_download} bytes in %{time_total} seconds (%{speed_download} bytes/sec). \n' -f --progress-bar $resume $curl_options "$url" -o "$gzfile.incomplete"
00:43 < rxr> ERROR: CURL Returned Error 139. Please read the curl manpage.
00:43 < mnemoc> outch
00:43 < rxr> curl 7.10.3 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.10.3 OpenSSL/0.9.7a ipv6 zlib/1.1.4
00:43 < daja77> mnemoc: #idlerpg
00:43 < rxr> I alread had this on some other box in the past ...
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00:48 < rxr> hm - even the T2:HEAD curl does segfault .-(
00:48 < rxr> it downloaded ok on my iBook :-(
00:54 < rxr> jsaw: stange I do not get your ash error here ...
00:55 < rxr> hm - I first continue postlinux stuff - more important
00:55 < rxr> I look into build errors happening on my side first - but for cross reference the files on your server would be a help ....
01:20 < rxr> oh my - the more I dive thru the build code again - the more I'm influenced to write this in a more modular and object oriented way from scratch - sigh
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01:45 < CIA-9> rene * r4341 /trunk/scripts/ (Build-Pkg functions):
01:45 < CIA-9> * factored some code out of Build-Pkg into functions
01:45 < CIA-9> (Needed for the postlinux lightweight sub-package build stuff.
01:45 < CIA-9> So far tested wiith a few packages - I try to commit tiny change-
01:45 < CIA-9> sets for better review. The next time I'll open an own branch for
01:45 < CIA-9> such work - so better do not svn up in a running build right now ...)
01:51 < CIA-9> rene * r4342 /trunk/scripts/ (Build-Pkg functions): * factored out $archdir population
02:12 * rxr now trying linux26 w/ sub-package build with my clean - non-prototype code ...
02:12 < CIA-9> rene * r4343 /trunk/scripts/functions: * the next build_package code chunk
03:23 < mnemoc> rxr: Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/g/gtk-xfce-engine-2.1.9.tar.bz2.cksum-err (4119904213)
03:26 < rxr> ouhm
03:29 < rxr> Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/g/gtk-xfce-engine-2.1.9.tar.bz2.cksum-err (4119904213)
03:30 * rxr tooo
03:30 < rxr> -o
03:30 < mnemoc> rxr: how can i 'kill' an screen window?
03:33 < mnemoc> :)
03:35 < rxr> what way of killing?
03:35 < rxr> C-k ?
03:37 < mnemoc> thanks
03:48 < mnemoc> rxr: do you think we should start using pkgsel_parse now or wait after 2.1?
03:48 < mnemoc> i think it's ready
03:49 < mnemoc> i would only like to automatize target/$target/pkgsel too
03:51 < rxr> I still have to take a look, when it is ok and works we could start to switch more over ...
03:51 < rxr> so - me bed (3:51 here ...)
03:51 < rxr> n8 all
03:51 < mnemoc> n8 rxr
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05:20 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r4344 /trunk/target/bootdisk/config.in: * fix bootdisk config s/PKG_LINUX_DEFAULT/DEFAULT_KERNEL/ :-)
08:03 < blindcoder> moin
10:55 < rxr> moin
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11:00 -!- Topic for #t2: T2, a preleminary name. Submit cool naming suggestions (without linux) here ;-)
11:00 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Wed Oct 6 17:56:16 2004]
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11:11 < rxr> http://www.kde.org/stuff/clipart/konqi-magical-rope-video-720x576-divx.avi
11:12 < blindcoder> what's that?
11:12 < rxr> kde promotion video
11:12 < rxr> (what elese ;-)
11:19 < blindcoder> guess i'll make myself a Grog tonight for sleeping :/
11:23 < rxr> :/
11:24 < blindcoder> damn "Grippe"
11:26 < CIA-9> rene * r4345 /trunk/package/xfce4/gtk-xfce-engine2/gtk-xfce-engine2.desc: * injected the new cgtk-xfce-ngine2 checksum
11:28 < rxr> oh :-(
11:32 < blindcoder> heh, funny clip actually :)
11:57 < rxr> hm - not funy what bugs got introduced in 2.1 ...
11:57 < rxr> .oO(I know why I forked ...)
12:08 < rxr> good that my target 2.1 date is end of this month - so we can start the designed from the ground C++ system soon *g*!
12:16 < CIA-9> rene * r4346 /trunk/scripts/functions:
12:16 < CIA-9> * initialize custmain
12:16 < CIA-9> * some more build_package bits (postlinux.conf work)
12:22 < rxr> cool ! Yeah - so this cleaner prototype get's into shape
12:22 * rxr showering and breakfast - and then we should soon have the postlinux thing
13:35 < rxr> hm - not much happening on IRC today :-(
13:35 < blindcoder> yeah
13:36 < blindcoder> even #nethack is more or less idle
13:36 < daja77> perhaps turning into an idlegame
13:37 < blindcoder> hmm
13:37 < blindcoder> yeah, nao has only 5 games running at the moment
14:16 < CIA-9> lars * r4347 /trunk/package/network/iptables/rocknet_iptables.sh:
14:16 < CIA-9> * Fixed a small typo in rocknet_iptables.sh
14:16 < CIA-9> (Now t2 has seven real! commiters :-)
14:17 < rxr> hey cool!
14:30 < rxr> lol
14:41 < rxr> == 10/16/04 14:42:47 =[9]=> Finished building package sysfiles.
14:43 < CIA-9> rene * r4348 /trunk/package/develop/icecream/ (icecream.conf no-cc-links.patch):
14:43 < CIA-9> * patched icecream to not create default cc* links and removed the
14:43 < CIA-9> /opt/icecream defaultl prefix
14:44 < CIA-9> rene * r4349 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/ (mkinitrd.sh sysfiles.conf):
14:44 < CIA-9> * added the mkinitrd to the sysfiles package - previously the "default"
14:44 < CIA-9> kernel installed it - and we do not have this "default" kernel
14:44 < CIA-9> concept any longer
14:47 < CIA-9> rene * r4350 /trunk/package/base/linux24/ (config-500.hlp config-500.in):
14:47 < CIA-9> * removed the obsolete "default" kernel option from the linux* config
14:47 < CIA-9> options
14:51 < rxr> well, this is a particularly cool main from the gcc list:
14:51 < rxr> hi to all,
14:51 < rxr> i am developing cross compiler for arm 10tdmi. but i like to know whether it is already implemented in the latest version or not. same time i need reference manual for arm 10tdmi.
14:51 < rxr> yours truly
14:51 < rxr> aram
14:56 < blindcoder> I'm not sure if I understand that correctly
14:57 < CIA-9> rene * r4351 /trunk/package/powerpc/linux-mol/:
14:57 < CIA-9> * removed linux-mol (postlinux building from the mol package is on the
14:57 < CIA-9> way)
15:24 < mnemoc> moin
15:24 < mnemoc> rxr: have you build bootdisks reciently
15:24 < mnemoc> ?
15:26 < rxr> ouhm - this is already some days in the past, why? Some problem?
15:26 < rxr> moin btw *g*
15:26 < mnemoc> i selected linux26 as default and linux24 failed to build
15:27 < mnemoc> moin rxr :)
15:27 < mnemoc> and btw, linux24 is quite outdated :p
15:29 < rxr> what do you mean with outdated?
15:29 < mnemoc> 28-presomething
15:29 < rxr> btw we do not have some sort of default compiler anymore ...
15:29 < rxr> have I missed a release ...
15:30 < mnemoc> .30
15:30 < rxr> latest is 2.4.28-pre4
15:30 < mnemoc> uhm?
15:30 < mnemoc> o_O
15:30 < mnemoc> ok.... ignore that
15:30 < rxr> we ship -pre3 ...
15:30 < rxr> I can bump the version if this makes you feel better?
15:30 < rxr> *g*
15:30 < mnemoc> bootdisk target asks if default=linux26 to remove lvm
15:31 < rxr> ouhm - what kind of code went in it in rock :-(
15:31 < mnemoc> rxr: somehow i got confused.... don't worry
15:31 < rxr> well when my postlinux.conf stuff all builds (still struggling with it)
15:31 < rxr> I get my hands dirty w/ the bootdisk ...
15:31 < mnemoc> :D
15:32 < rxr> mnemoc: you already read the news that we do not have this "defualt kernel concept" anymore?
15:32 < mnemoc> maybe :)
15:33 < rxr> maybe?
15:33 < rxr> why the hell have I cloop still in extra ...
15:33 < mnemoc> another thing, pkgsel_* stuff is at scripts/functions, shouldn't it be at config.func ?
15:33 < rxr> s.th. messed up there
15:33 < rxr> yes ;-) sure
15:33 < mnemoc> i'll move it them
15:34 < rxr> use a tab aware copy mechanism1
15:35 < rxr> ! ;-)
15:35 < mnemoc> i'm slow today, can you develop that idea?
15:35 < CIA-9> rene * r4352 /: * re-removed cloop (damn svn usability bug)
15:35 < mnemoc> dd :wn p :w ?
15:36 < rxr> mnemoc: ? what ?
15:36 < mnemoc> vi :)
15:36 < rxr> if the tabs stay intact ;-!
15:36 < mnemoc> sure
15:36 < rxr> ;-)
15:37 < rxr> it is really cool that you packaged tla ;-)
15:38 < mnemoc> why?
15:39 < rxr> just that we have it ;-) I did not expected that and was suprised ;-)
15:40 < mnemoc> hehe
15:40 < mnemoc> i use tla in my own development
16:14 < CIA-9> rene * r4353 /trunk/package/graphic/libtiff/libtiff.desc: * updated libtiff (3.7.0beta2 -> 3.7.0) - tested
16:18 < rxr> http://meshcube.org/
16:39 < rxr> so - until 18.oo I think I shoudl be able to comit the basic postlinux stuff ..
16:39 < rxr> where cloop builds ... ;-)
16:39 < rxr> (damn trial'n error on the slow iBook)
16:40 < rxr> I'll commit the other work-in-progress postlinux stuff, too (unfunctional) and polish them on my athlon ... - the iBook is just a bit slow for such tasks ...
17:40 * rxr soon back
17:58 < mnemoc> re
17:59 < mnemoc> rxr: if you don't _choose_ a default kernel, what headers will you use to build glibc?
18:06 < rxr> the only one linux-header package we have in t2
18:06 < rxr> that is intended to be as up to date as possible - ours is at 2.6.8.1 or so ..
18:07 < rxr> re
18:09 < mnemoc> oh
18:13 < rxr> a good or a bad oh?
18:16 < mnemoc> i feel strange to have linux26 headers on a linux24-only machine :)
18:30 < rxr> well they just define the ABI and constatns and such, the kernel is intended to be ABI backward compoatible - so it does not make sense to build the kernel with old headers ... - different choices just are maintenance nightmar
18:30 < rxr> e
18:30 < mnemoc> ic
18:49 < rxr> and you can not update them in a running system (shared files conflicts)
18:58 * rxr splaps the cloop folks many tims#
18:58 < rxr> .oO(/me fixing a damn crap peace of code just for the sake or reference implementation proofing my postlinux stuff works out ...)
18:59 < rxr> those poeple seem to have cool drugs, too
19:02 < rxr> and this knopper wanted to argue rock linux sucks when he can not even produce Makefiles ...
19:24 < daja77> did he argue? iirc that i'x guy ws always talking ...
19:43 < rxr> yes, ok the iX guy more ...
19:50 < CIA-9> lars * r4354 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/system.init: * to make system.init create /tmp/.ICE-unix with appropriate permissions
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20:17 < freed> hi all
20:18 < rxr> hi freed
20:18 < freed> sag ma rxr kennst du ein gutes sed howto. jetzt koennte ich sed ma gebrauchen
20:20 < rxr> haha ;-)
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20:20 < rxr> the o'reily sed book is quite good
20:20 < rxr> or man sed ;-)
20:20 < rxr> or google for it ...
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20:21 < freed> o reily is a good idea
20:25 < rxr> I pasted the expression you might want into the query ...
20:27 < freed> thx rxr
20:30 < rxr> freed: #t2 should be a nice regex support channel *g* we use them a lot ...
20:30 < freed> hehe
20:31 < freed> i must learn more about regex
20:32 < freed> i am still too uncertainly in handling with regex
20:35 < rxr> isn't there some "wahl" lecture at our university about regex *g*?
20:38 < freed> mmh i dont know
20:56 < CIA-9> rene * r4355 /trunk/package/kde/ (kdenetwork/kdenetwork.desc kdepim/kdepim.desc):
20:56 < CIA-9> * fixed kdepim and kdenetwork .desc files to correctly document where
20:56 < CIA-9> kmail is included nowadays, as well as some other updates
21:21 < CIA-9> rene * r4356 /trunk/package/network/ppp/ip-up:
21:21 < CIA-9> * fixed the annoying bug that PPP connection initiations fill our
21:21 < CIA-9> /etc/resolv.conf with comment lines - additionally improved the
21:21 < CIA-9> script to mess with automatically added lines, only ...
21:50 < CIA-9> rene * r4357 /trunk/package/network/ppp/ppp.desc: * updated the ppp download URL and added a general URL tag
21:59 < CIA-9> rene * r4358 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg:
21:59 < CIA-9> * added "where" text arguments to two uncommented aborts in Build-Pkg
21:59 < CIA-9> to save hours of tracking what is actually going wrong ;-)
22:20 < CIA-9> rene * r4359 /trunk/scripts/functions:
22:20 < CIA-9> * the first working build_(sub)package implementation ;-)
22:20 < CIA-9> (it does still contain some commented code to be removed later,
22:20 < CIA-9> as well as to be done optimizations left)
22:29 < CIA-9> rene * r4360 /trunk/package/base/linux24/ (kernelversion.sh linux24.conf lx_config.sh mkinitrd.sh):
22:29 < CIA-9> * removed "default" kernel stuff, mkinitrd.sh kernelversion.sh from
22:29 < CIA-9> the linux* packages
22:29 < CIA-9> * implemented (sub)package build for 3rd pary modules (tested with
22:29 < CIA-9> cloop and fuse so far)
22:29 < CIA-9> * cleanups on the way
22:31 < CIA-9> rene * r4361 /trunk/package/filesystem/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * implemented fuse and cloop postlinux kernel build - tested (w/ 2.6)
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