--- Log opened Tue Oct 12 00:00:00 2004 00:06 < jsaw> I have another one: binary-ground 00:15 < valentin> jsaw: to much binary in there :/ 00:15 < valentin> too much even 00:15 < valentin> m 00:15 * valentin off for some sleep 00:15 < valentin> cannot type anymore ... 00:29 < jsaw> cu valentin 00:51 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@pD95F87E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 01:57 < mnemoc> rehi 02:33 -!- sparc-kly [~boxter@65-23-207-1.prtc.net] has joined #t2 02:33 < sparc-kly> hi people 02:35 < mnemoc> hi sparc-kly 02:37 < sparc-kly> you speak spanish ? 02:37 < mnemoc> yep 02:37 < mnemoc> why? 02:38 < sparc-kly> hehehe tu nombre lo dice todo @ mire el whois y decia alejandro 02:38 < sparc-kly> you are from ? 02:38 < mnemoc> chile, and you? 02:38 < sparc-kly> Puerto RIco :D 02:38 < mnemoc> heh 02:38 < mnemoc> like ricky martin 02:39 < sparc-kly> hehehe 02:39 < sparc-kly> ya eligieron nombre para t2? 02:39 < mnemoc> aun no 02:40 < mnemoc> tiene que ser una o más palabras completas, no un acronimo, y que este disponible en .org :D 02:40 < mnemoc> buen desafio 02:40 < sparc-kly> damn no se 02:40 < sparc-kly> pero tiene que decir nombre linux o solo el nombre de la distro ? 02:41 < mnemoc> dado que no es una distribucion, y no se restringe al kernel linux, poner linux en el nombre es una mala idea 02:41 < sparc-kly> espera esto es un distro o que ? 02:41 < sparc-kly> un fork>? 02:42 < mnemoc> es un fork de un kit para crear distribuciones 02:42 < mnemoc> no un fork de una distribucion 02:54 -!- sparc-kly [~boxter@65-23-207-1.prtc.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:54 -!- sparc-kly [~boxter@65-23-207-1.prtc.net] has joined #t2 04:12 -!- sparc-kly [~boxter@65-23-207-1.prtc.net] has quit ["BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it."] 06:12 < rxr> moin 06:13 < rxr> == 10/13/04 01:20:28 =[9]=> Finished building package octave-forge. 06:16 < CIA-7> rene * r4261 /trunk/package/scientific/octave/octave.desc: 06:16 < CIA-7> * updated octave (2.1.58 -> 2.1.59) - 2.1.58 did not compile with gcc 06:16 < CIA-7> >= 3.4.x 06:42 < rxr> ok - shower, breakfast, off ... ;-) 06:55 < rxr> this is a rediculous time to get up .... 08:39 < blindcoder> moin 10:52 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508EAB2C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 10:58 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.192.172.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 10:58 -!- Topic for #t2: T2, a preleminary name. Submit cool naming suggestions (without linux) here ;-) 10:58 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Wed Oct 6 17:56:16 2004] 10:58 [Users #t2] 10:58 [ blindcoder] [ daja77] [ martin_] [ nzg ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 10:58 [ CIA-7 ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc ] [ Ragnar0k_] [ rxr_] 10:58 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal] 10:58 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 10:58 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 10:58 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 17 secs 11:13 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.247.150.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:31 -!- You're now known as rxr 12:31 < rxr> re 13:09 < rxr> so - these are most probalby the last lines from linux for the next days ;-) /me has to boot into macosx to do some semi-commercial work there (and t2 on macosx on the way) 13:14 < rxr> ok ;-) /me first updating kde (3.3.1 ;-) 13:34 -!- CIA-7 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has quit [Client Quit] 13:45 -!- CIA-2 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has joined #t2 13:58 < rxr> oh damn am I tired 14:05 -!- Sparc-kly|G4 [~sparc@66-50-123-220.prtc.net] has joined #t2 14:21 < mnemoc> moin 14:24 < Sparc-kly|G4> moin 14:42 < rxr> moin Sparc-kly|G4 mnemoc 14:43 < mnemoc> hi rxr 15:05 < rxr> hi mnemoc 15:06 -!- Sparc-kly|G4 [~sparc@66-50-123-220.prtc.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:13 < mnemoc> err.. rtsp update breaks mplayer :\ 15:16 < CIA-2> rene * r4262 /trunk/package/kde/ (22 files in 22 dirs): * updated kde (3.3.0 -> 3.3.1) - untested 15:16 < rxr> do you compile rtsp in? 15:17 < rxr> (do you really need it?) 15:17 < mnemoc> yes... it's almost done 15:17 < mnemoc> rxr: most client radios use realplayer... and i want music to study :) 15:17 < mnemoc> == 10/13/04 10:18:56 =[9]=> Finished building package mplayer. 15:17 < mnemoc> cool 15:18 < rxr> s.th. to commit then? 15:19 < mnemoc> it's on the laptop right now... i commit it to rock-2.0-mnemoc and then merge to t2 15:20 < rxr> .oO 15:20 < rxr> Oct 13 15:21:26 idefix kernel: HFS+-fs warning: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted, running fsck.hfsplus is recommended. mounting read-only. 15:20 < rxr> ^- what the hell did macosx to it's filesystem ... :-() 15:20 < valentin> no, this is a linux kernel bug 15:21 < rxr> and, now? 15:21 < rxr> aside from: go and fix it ;-) 15:21 < valentin> i get it every time after i wrote sth on the mac partition on linux 15:21 < mnemoc> macox is flawless :) 15:21 < valentin> i have a fix but you do not want to know.... 15:21 < rxr> I want to copy some music on the thing before I boot into it - oh - wait 15:22 < rxr> shit - it will not play my oggs anyway ... 15:22 < rxr> damn 15:22 * rxr needs to code gsmp for macosx before coding the commericial stuff ... 15:22 < rxr> ;-) 15:23 < mnemoc> :) 15:23 < rxr> oh well - and the coder of the hfsplus linux driver thought to be smarter then the user 15:23 < valentin> google for hfsplus_1.0.4.src.tar.bz2 15:24 < valentin> unpack build 15:24 < rxr> it does not even obey -o rmount,rw ... 15:24 < rxr> Oct 13 15:25:32 idefix kernel: HFS+-fs warning: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted, running fsck.hfsplus is recommended. leaving read-only. 15:24 < valentin> run hpmount 15:24 < valentin> and hpunmount 15:24 < mnemoc> hfs vs. reiser? 15:24 < valentin> and then mount with normal mound 15:25 < rxr> valentin: !why the hell is there no t2 package of hputils then? 15:25 < valentin> because it sucks like hell and does not even work 15:25 < mnemoc> hehe 15:26 < valentin> only that it unsets this stupid bit 15:26 < valentin> it does not even build fully... 15:26 < valentin> but i managed to compile hp*mount "by hand" 15:27 < valentin> we should find out where the kernel message comes from and uncomment this line 15:27 < rxr> ok - I do this 15:28 < rxr> btw it was not linux that wrote the the partition last - the last accessie was macosx itself 15:28 < rxr> I have the feeling that this is caused by the new journaling code for hfsplus in osx ... 15:30 < rxr> ok - rebuilding hfsplus module ... 15:30 < mnemoc> rxr: why you removed /dev/rtc patch from mplayer? 15:35 < rxr> ouhm - yes IIRC it did not apply and I do not like so many patch dependencies for updates ... 15:35 < rxr> either it is good - then it should be pushed into mplayer or ... 15:35 < rxr> why do you need it? 15:35 < rxr> I mean - mplayer runs fine here without it ... 15:36 < mnemoc> without devfsd it screams 15:37 < rxr> was it "just a path modification" patch? 15:37 < mnemoc> another thing i don't understand is that my mplayer selfdetected rtsp and failed to build due a protected method 15:37 < mnemoc> rxr: yes 15:37 < mnemoc> but you have rtsp and mplayer and your mplayer is not broken 15:38 < rxr> hm - but it did not apply anymore IIRC ... 15:38 < rxr> if you really need it you are free to readdd it .. 15:38 < mnemoc> :) 15:38 < rxr> but on the other hand: devfs is fading away - so /dev/rtc is a more permanent name and you might be better off not patching apps any longer ... 15:39 < blindcoder> mplayer now detects devfs 15:39 < mnemoc> uhm? 15:39 < mnemoc> ok, svn add reverted 15:39 < rxr> no - if you really like it I do not mind the patch ... 15:40 < rxr> just commit if you have redone the patch ... 15:40 < mnemoc> ok 15:40 < rxr> after all we need cia events ;-) 15:40 < mnemoc> hehe 15:40 < rxr> damn - I have no compiled kernel source lying around on my iBook - so no direct music copy 15:41 * rxr placing backup on rs6k 15:42 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4263 /trunk/package/multimedia/rtsp/rtsp.desc: * rtsp library updated to 2004.10.11 15:42 < rxr> good that we have no DRM - and I can place a temporary copy on some stange unix server *g* 15:43 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4264 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer/ (devfs_path_fix.patch hotfix_rtsp.patch): 15:43 < CIA-2> * mplayer fixed to support last rtsp library 15:43 < CIA-2> * mplayer recovered it's devfs patch :) 15:44 < CIA-2> rene * r4265 /trunk/package/base/linux26/99-hfsplus.patch: 15:44 < CIA-2> * mount hfsplus volumes read-write even though macosx or s.th. else 15:44 < CIA-2> left the check bit set ... 15:44 * mnemoc need to improve his compare.sh to show diffs :p 15:44 < rxr> ;-) 15:44 < mnemoc> =) 15:45 < rxr> let's chat via commit messages *g* 15:45 < rxr> ouch: 15:45 < CIA-2> rene * r4266 /trunk/package/base/linux26/99-hfsplus.patch: * of course the patch needs to be patch level 1 15:46 < mnemoc> :) 15:46 < mnemoc> commit messages are fun 15:47 < rxr> so - as soon as the scp of music finished (...) I'm off into macosx ... 15:47 < valentin> hello CIA-2, how are you *g* 15:47 < rxr> hehe ;-) 15:47 < rxr> why do I feel so puffed out ... :-( 15:48 < rxr> good that lars and I are not climbing today - so puffed out I'm it would not have been that much success ... 16:12 < rxr> rehi 16:13 < rxr> wow - so much in osx sucks ... - even the mouse movement settings do not please me - dog slow by default - and when set faster it still is slow with some ugly acceleration ... 16:13 < rxr> the terminal is really strangly slow ... 16:14 < blindcoder> maybe it's just the hardware that's slow *runs* 16:14 < valentin> nope - macosx terminal sucks 16:14 < valentin> its quite buggy 16:14 < valentin> and slow 16:15 < valentin> for example type a german 'sz' and see whats happening 16:15 < rxr> hey - I can drag arround transparent windows in realtime without any flicker - it is not the hardware that is slow ... 16:15 < rxr> yep 16:15 < rxr> ßsdfsdf 16:15 < rxr> ^- 16:15 < rxr> hm - 16:15 < blindcoder> o_O 16:15 < rxr> now it is messed up 16:15 < valentin> yep ! 16:16 < rxr> ah - ok C^L cured it ... 16:16 < valentin> hit enter and try to edit the history 16:16 < rxr> did you see a sz here? 16:16 < valentin> no 16:16 < blindcoder> no 16:16 < rxr> no I'm in screen - and irssi ... 16:16 < rxr> what did you got after yep? 16:16 < valentin> it does not matter if i have an sz or not, but it does matter if the history / line editing is broken 16:16 < valentin> 16:17 < rxr> Ã_sdfsdf 16:17 < rxr> ok - I get the same ? caro I saw while typing ... 16:17 < rxr> so I still do not know what you see ;-) 16:17 < blindcoder> a capital A with a ~ above it 16:17 < blindcoder> and a white block 16:17 < rxr> anywell I have to try to work with this all broken os 16:17 < blindcoder> then sdfsdf 16:17 < rxr> the first should have been an sz ... 16:18 < rxr> the last was due to I was not seeing anything in the terminal ... 16:18 < rxr> the question is - do I start with it now - or do I install 10.3 first ... 16:19 < blindcoder> start with it 16:19 < blindcoder> 10.3 will have other problems :{ 16:19 < blindcoder> :) 16:19 < rxr> valentin: I guess at kerstin's birthday you do not want to get a t2 backup from me today? 16:19 < rxr> blindcoder: the terminal is as broken in 10.3 as it is in 10.2 ... 16:20 < blindcoder> heh, that's what YOU think :) 16:20 < rxr> but I would have stuff like faster booting, expose and xcode 16:20 < rxr> ah damn - yep, i need xcode ;-) that was why I invested into 10.3 .. 16:20 < blindcoder> anyway, /me going home 16:20 < blindcoder> bye 16:21 < rxr> you mean apple thinks it is the best terminal in the world? 16:25 < rxr> WHAT?!?!?!?! 16:25 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508EAB2C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)] 16:26 < rxr> this is unbelievable - when you resize a windows the content is not redrawn anymore - atleast not for the download manager thingi - when you release the mouse button to stop resizing the precent bar makes a big junp to the current real value ... 16:27 < rxr> oh my good - s.th. else is f*cked up here 16:28 < rxr> the osx installer for those .pkg files claims it can not install the subversion pkg because: 16:28 < rxr> "Installing the software requiries 16.7MB of disc space. 16:28 < rxr> you cannot install this software on this disk. (null) 16:28 < rxr> where it lists my 8.0GB volume (5.7GB Free) above 16:29 < rxr> what this f*cking crap is this ?!?!?!?! 16:29 < rxr> I WANT TO WORK WITH THIS CRAP - DAMN - GRUMMEL - 16:35 < rxr> oh my - just found another usability bug ... 16:35 < rxr> from today mac people have it even harder to tell me macosx is more userfriednly then linux ... 16:40 < rxr> WHAT!?!?!?! 16:40 < rxr> selecting "Go back" and the continue let me select the macosx volume to install 16:40 < rxr> i do not believe that .... 16:40 < mnemoc> :D 16:42 < rxr> hm - the binary subversion package does not seem to be for my 10.2: 16:42 < rxr> bash-2.05a$ /usr/local/bin/svn 16:42 < rxr> dyld: /usr/local/bin/svn can't open library: /usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib (No such file or directory, errno = 2) 16:43 < daja77> O_o 16:44 < daja77> hm i built svn on mac myself .. 16:44 * rxr does try this now ... 16:45 < daja77> guess you'll have to build bdb before 16:45 < rxr> oehm - when I do not want the server part ... 16:45 < rxr> it should build without it ... 16:46 < daja77> yep 16:46 < rxr> especially since svn 1.1 has fs-fs backend - so it does not really depend on the bdb for the server anyway 16:46 < daja77> ah yes, haven't had a look at that 16:51 * valentin driving home 16:57 < blindcoder> rehi 16:58 * blindcoder is drowning in coffee beans 17:00 < blindcoder> 750g cafe crema, 500g ordinary tchibo, and 5x50g different beans in test packages 17:01 < mnemoc> there is a clean way to remove copyright from a file? 17:06 < rxr> mnemoc: what copyright? 17:07 < rxr> just wipe all kinds of comments away if you speak about t2 / rock copyrights ... 17:07 < mnemoc> if i wipe out any comment i'll damage file content too 17:07 < rxr> and squeeze subsequent newlines into a single one ... 17:07 < rxr> do you need it for the comparator? 17:07 < mnemoc> yes 17:08 < rxr> well - then used the BEGIN END tags to just wipe the copyright ... 17:08 < rxr> but for human contact review stipping comments would be enough in my opinioun ... 17:08 < mnemoc> my question was technical :) how can i use BEGIN END tags to wipe :p 17:09 < mnemoc> i want to be able to | patch -p1 :p 17:10 < blindcoder> removeme=0 ; while read line ; do [ "${line//BEGIN/}" != "${line}" ] && removeme=1 ; [ ${removeme} -eq 0 ] && echo ${line} ; [ "${line//END/}" != "${line}" ] && removeme=0 ; done is that safe?? 17:12 < blindcoder> no, but a good start if you ask me 17:12 < blindcoder> the //BEGIN/ and //END/ have to be a bit longer 17:13 < blindcoder> to cover more of the whole line, but apart from that it will skip the copyright tag 17:13 < blindcoder> //COPYRIGHT-NOTE-BEGIN/ and //COPYRIGHT-NOTE-END/ respectively 17:13 < blindcoder> that should work 17:13 < mnemoc> what about escaping chars on $line? 17:13 < mnemoc> are they preserved? 17:14 < blindcoder> hmm 17:14 < blindcoder> damn, no 17:15 < blindcoder> '\' is not preserved 17:15 < mnemoc> i was thinking in a dirty 17:16 < mnemoc> count=`wc -l $file` 17:16 < mnemoc> lineno=`grep -c ...... $file | cut` 17:16 < mnemoc> tail -n $( some_math ) $file 17:16 < blindcoder> hmm... I don't think that will work 17:16 < mnemoc> :( 17:17 < mnemoc> why? 17:17 < blindcoder> because not every file has a copyright header, and the header for .desc files varies from the one for .patch files 17:17 < blindcoder> not just in commenting style but also in length 17:18 < mnemoc> uhm... 17:23 < blindcoder> mnemoc: query 17:31 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@dsl-082-082-089-065.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["updating kernel"] 17:31 < rxr> I thing grep or so can more safe and performance optimal be used to strip those .. 17:32 < rxr> mnemoc: I take a look in some minutes, ok? 17:32 < rxr> work on s.th different the next 20 minutes and you get some code :-)? 17:32 * rxr just started a backup of the iBook in order to wipe the HD and start over with OSX 10.3 ... 17:32 < rxr> thus the delay 17:42 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@dsl-082-082-089-065.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 17:42 < blindcoder> rehi 17:44 < mnemoc> http://svn.geeks.cl/rock-2.0-mnemoc/WORK/misc/mnemoc/compare.sh 17:44 < mnemoc> blindcoder: can you give it a try? 17:45 < mnemoc> i _think_ it's complete 17:45 < mnemoc> i may need support for RL2.1's forks but i think that can wait 17:47 < mnemoc> rxr: you are welcome too 17:47 < blindcoder> I only have two rock trunks atm 17:48 < mnemoc> rock vs. t2? 17:48 < daja77> what is compare doin? 17:48 < mnemoc> compare pacakges from different trees 17:48 < mnemoc> rock-2.0 vs rock-trunk, rock-daja vs. rock-trunk 17:49 < mnemoc> with -v it also try to produce a good patch 17:49 < daja77> rock-daja differs in one package ;) 17:49 < mnemoc> :) 17:49 < blindcoder> my two rock tree's are at quite some revisions apart atm 17:49 < blindcoder> ~200 17:50 < mnemoc> compare them :D 17:50 < blindcoder> looooooong output 17:50 < mnemoc> you can give it a list of packages or repositories too 17:50 < blindcoder> honestly, I'm not sure what to look for 17:50 < mnemoc> :( 17:52 * blindcoder falls asleep during a svn up... 17:52 < daja77> hehe 17:52 < blindcoder> oh wait, two files have already been altered! 17:53 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508EAB2C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 17:58 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4267 /trunk/package/mnemoc/tla/tla.desc: * tla updated to 1.2.1 (first use of compare.sh :p) 17:59 < daja77> :) 18:00 < mnemoc> i'll do the same on rock-trunk now 18:00 < rxr> cool :-) so we get some commit storm, soon:-) 18:00 < mnemoc> hehe... i'm just testing 18:01 < rxr> mnemoc: have you solved the copyright removal elegantly? 18:01 < mnemoc> take a look into the script and blindy's solution :p 18:02 * mnemoc thinks he should skip [P] when diffing .desc 18:02 < mnemoc> .... no 18:03 * daja77 kicking cups 18:06 < mnemoc> bbl 18:07 < blindcoder> hmm 18:07 < blindcoder> I should abstain from sweet cocktails... they'll be gone too fast :/ 18:51 < rxr> hm - so, I hope I did not forget to back up a file ... 18:53 < blindcoder> you did. You will notice 5 seconds after you killed the filesystem :) 18:53 < rxr> yeah - thanks blindcoder ... 18:53 < blindcoder> Just speaking from multiple experience 19:06 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@65-23-207-1.prtc.net] has joined #t2 19:43 < rxr> re 19:44 < rxr> damn - only Apple alone knows why such a simple deflate installation procedure can be that slow ... 19:50 -!- Ragnar0k_ is now known as Ragnar0k 20:01 < rxr> 2re 20:14 < rxr> well - yet another combined update ... 20:14 < rxr> let's see if 10.3 managed to integrate that one ... 20:15 < rxr> hm 20:15 < rxr> the new terminal has redrawing bugs ... 20:15 < rxr> damn - Apple should hire me ... 20:21 < mnemoc> rehi 20:21 < rxr> hi 20:25 < rxr> hm - scrolling e.g. in safari is quite unsmooth ... :-( 20:26 < mnemoc> flood them with bug reports :p 20:27 < mnemoc> and attach a curriculim :D 20:30 < rxr> hm - why is there no way to "enable s.th. like a status bar in this safari think - so one can see e.g. where a link points to ... 20:31 < rxr> damn - hopefully this vt100 redrawing bug is fixed after this fat combined update ... 20:31 < mnemoc> cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda 20:32 < rxr> nope! I just spend quite some time installint 10.3 ... 20:33 < rxr> I need to do some commercial work on my scanner driver to pay my rental fee ... ;-) 20:33 < rxr> and it is not hda under macosx ;-) 20:33 < rxr> it's /dev/disk0 20:33 < rxr> ;-) 20:33 < rxr> btw, those are mounted: 20:34 < rxr> devfs on /dev (local) 20:34 < rxr> fdesc on /dev (union) 20:34 < mnemoc> fdesc? 20:34 < rxr> I just see them the first time, too ... 20:34 < nzg> what is fdesc? 20:34 < rxr> but the union note indicates s.th. like some virtual write to some file layer 20:35 < rxr> google for it - /me is only a occational mac user ... 20:35 < mnemoc> The fdesc filesystem first appeared in BSD 4.4 . hm... 20:35 < rxr> I bought the iBook to run Linux - mac is less often booted then - hm - then don't known - seldom .. 20:35 < mnemoc> fdesc - file-descriptor file system 20:35 < rxr> whooho - the software update is complete - now the "optimization" is running ... 20:36 * rxr soon rebooting - once more ... 20:37 < rxr> strangely everything not completely open-source tends to like reboots ... 20:37 < rxr> btw. my gsmp.tfh-berlin.de has a cool uptime ;-) > 3xx days ;-) 20:37 < mnemoc> x=0 or x=9? 20:37 < nzg> wow... you should think about participating in "the uptime project" 20:37 < rxr> 371 days 20:39 * mnemoc thinking in how many vulnerabilities may have that machine 20:40 < rxr> hehe - nope openssh was updated ... 20:40 < rxr> but I should do a rebuild some tools round again ;-) 20:40 < nzg> what about kernel/libc vulnerabilities? 20:41 < rxr> s 20:41 < rxr> hm 20:41 < rxr> interesting 20:41 < rxr> I resized the terminal and now the redrawing bug is gone ... 20:41 < mnemoc> rxr ignoring topic :p 20:42 < rxr> okok - I log into the box and update some user-space stuff ;-) 20:42 < mnemoc> =) 20:43 < rxr> optimizing at 96% ;-) 20:43 < rxr> this optimizing stuff include stuff like an prelinking equivalent ... 20:43 < mnemoc> what does suppose to mean? 20:43 < rxr> you do not know prelinking under e.g. linux? 20:44 < rxr> ping? 20:44 < mnemoc> optimizing at 96% 20:45 < rxr> just that it is slow - takes a lot of time - and I reboot now ;-) 20:45 < rxr> do you need to write some prelinking summary? 20:45 < mnemoc> no thanks :| 20:45 < rxr> oki 20:45 * rxr rebooting - back in some minutes :-( 20:45 < mnemoc> again?? 20:48 < rxr> re 20:48 < rxr> yep ... 20:48 < rxr> first I installed 10.3 20:49 < rxr> and now I applied the sofftware updates from the internet - > 100MB ... 20:49 < mnemoc> 5% of original size? 20:49 < rxr> hm? 20:50 < mnemoc> 100MB 20:50 < rxr> well - only updates like security stuff ... 20:50 < rxr> I find 100MB quite large .... 20:50 < mnemoc> me too 20:51 < rxr> damn - where is xcode and gcc 20:51 < mnemoc> hehe 20:51 < rxr> I seem to have missed s.th. during the installation 20:52 < rxr> why is this so dificult 20:52 < rxr> my t2 is somehow easier ... 20:52 < mnemoc> rxr: don't use your brain just click next 20:52 < rxr> I did - and miss gcc and xcode .... 20:52 < rxr> and maybe more ... 20:53 < mnemoc> brain-less people doesn't need gcc and xcode 20:53 -!- martin_ [~martin@brln-d9ba1d4f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:53 < rxr> hehe 20:53 < mnemoc> brb 20:55 -!- blindcod1r [~blindcode@dsl-082-082-097-153.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 20:55 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4268 /trunk/package/mnemoc/tla/tla.desc: * priority restored to tla (sorry) 21:07 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@dsl-082-082-089-065.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:14 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 21:22 < rxr> do me on the athlon now - osx sucks too much 21:23 * daja77 grins 21:23 < rxr> does anyone know if irssi has (incremental) search in the scrollback buffer? 21:39 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@65-23-207-1.prtc.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:13 -!- martin_ [~martin@brln-d9ba246d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 22:28 < rxr> osx is to easy for me ... 22:28 < rxr> I do not get it installed properly ... 22:33 < rxr> wow - even the apple developer member site has grave bugs ... 22:34 < daja77> hehe that site sucks 22:34 < daja77> and their news letter sucks too 22:34 < rxr> hm - I updated my mail address to exactcode.de 22:34 < rxr> (from rocklinux.org) 22:35 < rxr> and I still have to log in using the old ID ?!?!?! 22:35 -!- freed [~bofh@brln-d9ba246d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 22:35 < freed> hi all 22:35 < rxr> hi 22:36 < freed> hi rxr 22:36 < freed> so der groesste schaden is behoben 22:37 < rxr> nice ;-) 22:37 < rxr> maybe we could talk about a solution that the gsmp. is more directly conencted to the net - so nexus failures do not have impact on the gsmp. box ... 22:38 < rxr> me is really tooo stupid to find the development incl. xcode packages on the macosx CD 22:38 < rxr> it it would not be an DVD original one could say damn raw-copied 22:39 < rxr> but since it is a shining Apple ressed DVD I really wonder how it is intended to get Xcode on a box using that DVD set ... 22:39 < daja77> you can get xcode from the net no? 22:39 < rxr> me downloading a 350MB Xcode CD image now - let's if I get a developer toolchain from it ... 22:40 < rxr> apple claims 10.3 includes it - I wanted s.th. that fits all well together - s.th. that is garanteed to work ... 22:40 < daja77> ^^ 22:47 < rxr> freed: how are you? 22:54 < rxr> btw, in kde-3.3.1 the plastik theme should be much faster ;-) 22:57 < rxr> the download manager thing sucks majorly, too 22:58 < rxr> can not even pause resume downloads - seems to strat from teh beginning 22:58 * rxr notes - never click the stop button ... 22:59 < rxr> ^- psx pf cpirse mpt lde :-) 23:01 < rxr> ic - I'll have _much_ fun under osx ... 23:01 < rxr> hm - I should switch to run it over mol again, at least I would have a linux handy .... 23:01 < rxr> hm - ok - the gui would be a bit sloppy then ... :-( 23:03 < rxr> hm - interesting - under 10.3 the windows media player starts to install ... 23:24 < rxr> so, this is why people watch anke latenight - waiting for macosx becoming usable ... 23:25 < daja77> rofl 23:26 < rxr> well at least some photo morphing was a bit funny right now ... 23:26 < rxr> well - if I would not have tried to pause the xcode download with the "start from zero" it would already be finished :-( 23:27 < daja77> <- ordered dsl today 23:32 -!- freed [~bofh@brln-d9ba246d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit ["My damn controlling terminal disappeared!"] 23:49 < mnemoc> rehi 23:49 < rxr> rehi mnemoc 23:57 < rxr> (grep -B 100000 -- '--- ROCK-COPYRIGHT-NOTE-BEGIN ---' xine-lib.desc ; grep -A 100000 -- '--- ROCK-COPYRIGHT-NOTE-END ---' xine-lib.desc ) | grep -v ROCK-COPYRIGHT-NOTE 23:57 < rxr> ^- should be more efficient for large files .. 23:57 < rxr> too bad I can not get rid of the 3rd damn grep ... 23:58 < rxr> but maybe you find a variant grep likes ... 23:58 < rxr> btw better just used COPYRIGHT-NOTE without ROCK ... 23:58 < rxr> in T2 we will use an own, more community style copyright ... tagged with T2 ... 23:58 < rxr> autsch 23:59 < rxr> xcode needs 1.2_GB_ of disk space ... ?!?!?!?! --- Log closed Wed Oct 13 00:00:15 2004