T2 IRC Log: 2004-10-12

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--- Log opened Tue Oct 12 00:00:00 2004
00:06 < jsaw> I have another one: binary-ground
00:15 < valentin> jsaw: to much binary in there :/
00:15 < valentin> too much even
00:15 < valentin> m
00:15 * valentin off for some sleep
00:15 < valentin> cannot type anymore ...
00:29 < jsaw> cu valentin
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01:57 < mnemoc> rehi
02:33 -!- sparc-kly [~boxter@65-23-207-1.prtc.net] has joined #t2
02:33 < sparc-kly> hi people
02:35 < mnemoc> hi sparc-kly
02:37 < sparc-kly> you speak spanish ?
02:37 < mnemoc> yep
02:37 < mnemoc> why?
02:38 < sparc-kly> hehehe tu nombre lo dice todo @ mire el whois y decia alejandro
02:38 < sparc-kly> you are from ?
02:38 < mnemoc> chile, and you?
02:38 < sparc-kly> Puerto RIco :D
02:38 < mnemoc> heh
02:38 < mnemoc> like ricky martin
02:39 < sparc-kly> hehehe
02:39 < sparc-kly> ya eligieron nombre para t2?
02:39 < mnemoc> aun no
02:40 < mnemoc> tiene que ser una o más palabras completas, no un acronimo, y que este disponible en .org :D
02:40 < mnemoc> buen desafio
02:40 < sparc-kly> damn no se
02:40 < sparc-kly> pero tiene que decir nombre linux o solo el nombre de la distro ?
02:41 < mnemoc> dado que no es una distribucion, y no se restringe al kernel linux, poner linux en el nombre es una mala idea
02:41 < sparc-kly> espera esto es un distro o que ?
02:41 < sparc-kly> un fork>?
02:42 < mnemoc> es un fork de un kit para crear distribuciones
02:42 < mnemoc> no un fork de una distribucion
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06:12 < rxr> moin
06:13 < rxr> == 10/13/04 01:20:28 =[9]=> Finished building package octave-forge.
06:16 < CIA-7> rene * r4261 /trunk/package/scientific/octave/octave.desc:
06:16 < CIA-7> * updated octave (2.1.58 -> 2.1.59) - 2.1.58 did not compile with gcc
06:16 < CIA-7> >= 3.4.x
06:42 < rxr> ok - shower, breakfast, off ... ;-)
06:55 < rxr> this is a rediculous time to get up ....
08:39 < blindcoder> moin
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10:58 -!- Topic for #t2: T2, a preleminary name. Submit cool naming suggestions (without linux) here ;-)
10:58 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Wed Oct 6 17:56:16 2004]
10:58 [Users #t2]
10:58 [ blindcoder] [ daja77] [ martin_] [ nzg ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
10:58 [ CIA-7 ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc ] [ Ragnar0k_] [ rxr_]
10:58 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
10:58 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
10:58 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
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12:31 < rxr> re
13:09 < rxr> so - these are most probalby the last lines from linux for the next days ;-) /me has to boot into macosx to do some semi-commercial work there (and t2 on macosx on the way)
13:14 < rxr> ok ;-) /me first updating kde (3.3.1 ;-)
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13:58 < rxr> oh damn am I tired
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14:21 < mnemoc> moin
14:24 < Sparc-kly|G4> moin
14:42 < rxr> moin Sparc-kly|G4 mnemoc
14:43 < mnemoc> hi rxr
15:05 < rxr> hi mnemoc
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15:13 < mnemoc> err.. rtsp update breaks mplayer :\
15:16 < CIA-2> rene * r4262 /trunk/package/kde/ (22 files in 22 dirs): * updated kde (3.3.0 -> 3.3.1) - untested
15:16 < rxr> do you compile rtsp in?
15:17 < rxr> (do you really need it?)
15:17 < mnemoc> yes... it's almost done
15:17 < mnemoc> rxr: most client radios use realplayer... and i want music to study :)
15:17 < mnemoc> == 10/13/04 10:18:56 =[9]=> Finished building package mplayer.
15:17 < mnemoc> cool
15:18 < rxr> s.th. to commit then?
15:19 < mnemoc> it's on the laptop right now... i commit it to rock-2.0-mnemoc and then merge to t2
15:20 < rxr> .oO
15:20 < rxr> Oct 13 15:21:26 idefix kernel: HFS+-fs warning: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted, running fsck.hfsplus is recommended. mounting read-only.
15:20 < rxr> ^- what the hell did macosx to it's filesystem ... :-()
15:20 < valentin> no, this is a linux kernel bug
15:21 < rxr> and, now?
15:21 < rxr> aside from: go and fix it ;-)
15:21 < valentin> i get it every time after i wrote sth on the mac partition on linux
15:21 < mnemoc> macox is flawless :)
15:21 < valentin> i have a fix but you do not want to know....
15:21 < rxr> I want to copy some music on the thing before I boot into it - oh - wait
15:22 < rxr> shit - it will not play my oggs anyway ...
15:22 < rxr> damn
15:22 * rxr needs to code gsmp for macosx before coding the commericial stuff ...
15:22 < rxr> ;-)
15:23 < mnemoc> :)
15:23 < rxr> oh well - and the coder of the hfsplus linux driver thought to be smarter then the user
15:23 < valentin> google for hfsplus_1.0.4.src.tar.bz2
15:24 < valentin> unpack build
15:24 < rxr> it does not even obey -o rmount,rw ...
15:24 < rxr> Oct 13 15:25:32 idefix kernel: HFS+-fs warning: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted, running fsck.hfsplus is recommended. leaving read-only.
15:24 < valentin> run hpmount
15:24 < valentin> and hpunmount
15:24 < mnemoc> hfs vs. reiser?
15:24 < valentin> and then mount with normal mound
15:25 < rxr> valentin: !why the hell is there no t2 package of hputils then?
15:25 < valentin> because it sucks like hell and does not even work
15:25 < mnemoc> hehe
15:26 < valentin> only that it unsets this stupid bit
15:26 < valentin> it does not even build fully...
15:26 < valentin> but i managed to compile hp*mount "by hand"
15:27 < valentin> we should find out where the kernel message comes from and uncomment this line
15:27 < rxr> ok - I do this
15:28 < rxr> btw it was not linux that wrote the the partition last - the last accessie was macosx itself
15:28 < rxr> I have the feeling that this is caused by the new journaling code for hfsplus in osx ...
15:30 < rxr> ok - rebuilding hfsplus module ...
15:30 < mnemoc> rxr: why you removed /dev/rtc patch from mplayer?
15:35 < rxr> ouhm - yes IIRC it did not apply and I do not like so many patch dependencies for updates ...
15:35 < rxr> either it is good - then it should be pushed into mplayer or ...
15:35 < rxr> why do you need it?
15:35 < rxr> I mean - mplayer runs fine here without it ...
15:36 < mnemoc> without devfsd it screams
15:37 < rxr> was it "just a path modification" patch?
15:37 < mnemoc> another thing i don't understand is that my mplayer selfdetected rtsp and failed to build due a protected method
15:37 < mnemoc> rxr: yes
15:37 < mnemoc> but you have rtsp and mplayer and your mplayer is not broken
15:38 < rxr> hm - but it did not apply anymore IIRC ...
15:38 < rxr> if you really need it you are free to readdd it ..
15:38 < mnemoc> :)
15:38 < rxr> but on the other hand: devfs is fading away - so /dev/rtc is a more permanent name and you might be better off not patching apps any longer ...
15:39 < blindcoder> mplayer now detects devfs
15:39 < mnemoc> uhm?
15:39 < mnemoc> ok, svn add reverted
15:39 < rxr> no - if you really like it I do not mind the patch ...
15:40 < rxr> just commit if you have redone the patch ...
15:40 < mnemoc> ok
15:40 < rxr> after all we need cia events ;-)
15:40 < mnemoc> hehe
15:40 < rxr> damn - I have no compiled kernel source lying around on my iBook - so no direct music copy
15:41 * rxr placing backup on rs6k
15:42 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4263 /trunk/package/multimedia/rtsp/rtsp.desc: * rtsp library updated to 2004.10.11
15:42 < rxr> good that we have no DRM - and I can place a temporary copy on some stange unix server *g*
15:43 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4264 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer/ (devfs_path_fix.patch hotfix_rtsp.patch):
15:43 < CIA-2> * mplayer fixed to support last rtsp library
15:43 < CIA-2> * mplayer recovered it's devfs patch :)
15:44 < CIA-2> rene * r4265 /trunk/package/base/linux26/99-hfsplus.patch:
15:44 < CIA-2> * mount hfsplus volumes read-write even though macosx or s.th. else
15:44 < CIA-2> left the check bit set ...
15:44 * mnemoc need to improve his compare.sh to show diffs :p
15:44 < rxr> ;-)
15:44 < mnemoc> =)
15:45 < rxr> let's chat via commit messages *g*
15:45 < rxr> ouch:
15:45 < CIA-2> rene * r4266 /trunk/package/base/linux26/99-hfsplus.patch: * of course the patch needs to be patch level 1
15:46 < mnemoc> :)
15:46 < mnemoc> commit messages are fun
15:47 < rxr> so - as soon as the scp of music finished (...) I'm off into macosx ...
15:47 < valentin> hello CIA-2, how are you *g*
15:47 < rxr> hehe ;-)
15:47 < rxr> why do I feel so puffed out ... :-(
15:48 < rxr> good that lars and I are not climbing today - so puffed out I'm it would not have been that much success ...
16:12 < rxr> rehi
16:13 < rxr> wow - so much in osx sucks ... - even the mouse movement settings do not please me - dog slow by default - and when set faster it still is slow with some ugly acceleration ...
16:13 < rxr> the terminal is really strangly slow ...
16:14 < blindcoder> maybe it's just the hardware that's slow *runs*
16:14 < valentin> nope - macosx terminal sucks
16:14 < valentin> its quite buggy
16:14 < valentin> and slow
16:15 < valentin> for example type a german 'sz' and see whats happening
16:15 < rxr> hey - I can drag arround transparent windows in realtime without any flicker - it is not the hardware that is slow ...
16:15 < rxr> yep
16:15 < rxr> ßsdfsdf
16:15 < rxr> ^-
16:15 < rxr> hm -
16:15 < blindcoder> o_O
16:15 < rxr> now it is messed up
16:15 < valentin> yep !
16:16 < rxr> ah - ok C^L cured it ...
16:16 < valentin> hit enter and try to edit the history
16:16 < rxr> did you see a sz here?
16:16 < valentin> no
16:16 < blindcoder> no
16:16 < rxr> no I'm in screen - and irssi ...
16:16 < rxr> what did you got after yep?
16:16 < valentin> it does not matter if i have an sz or not, but it does matter if the history / line editing is broken
16:16 < valentin> 16:17 < rxr> Ã_sdfsdf
16:17 < rxr> ok - I get the same ? caro I saw while typing ...
16:17 < rxr> so I still do not know what you see ;-)
16:17 < blindcoder> a capital A with a ~ above it
16:17 < blindcoder> and a white block
16:17 < rxr> anywell I have to try to work with this all broken os
16:17 < blindcoder> then sdfsdf
16:17 < rxr> the first should have been an sz ...
16:18 < rxr> the last was due to I was not seeing anything in the terminal ...
16:18 < rxr> the question is - do I start with it now - or do I install 10.3 first ...
16:19 < blindcoder> start with it
16:19 < blindcoder> 10.3 will have other problems :{
16:19 < blindcoder> :)
16:19 < rxr> valentin: I guess at kerstin's birthday you do not want to get a t2 backup from me today?
16:19 < rxr> blindcoder: the terminal is as broken in 10.3 as it is in 10.2 ...
16:20 < blindcoder> heh, that's what YOU think :)
16:20 < rxr> but I would have stuff like faster booting, expose and xcode
16:20 < rxr> ah damn - yep, i need xcode ;-) that was why I invested into 10.3 ..
16:20 < blindcoder> anyway, /me going home
16:20 < blindcoder> bye
16:21 < rxr> you mean apple thinks it is the best terminal in the world?
16:25 < rxr> WHAT?!?!?!?!
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16:26 < rxr> this is unbelievable - when you resize a windows the content is not redrawn anymore - atleast not for the download manager thingi - when you release the mouse button to stop resizing the precent bar makes a big junp to the current real value ...
16:27 < rxr> oh my good - s.th. else is f*cked up here
16:28 < rxr> the osx installer for those .pkg files claims it can not install the subversion pkg because:
16:28 < rxr> "Installing the software requiries 16.7MB of disc space.
16:28 < rxr> you cannot install this software on this disk. (null)
16:28 < rxr> where it lists my 8.0GB volume (5.7GB Free) above
16:29 < rxr> what this f*cking crap is this ?!?!?!?!
16:29 < rxr> I WANT TO WORK WITH THIS CRAP - DAMN - GRUMMEL -
16:35 < rxr> oh my - just found another usability bug ...
16:35 < rxr> from today mac people have it even harder to tell me macosx is more userfriednly then linux ...
16:40 < rxr> WHAT!?!?!?!
16:40 < rxr> selecting "Go back" and the continue let me select the macosx volume to install
16:40 < rxr> i do not believe that ....
16:40 < mnemoc> :D
16:42 < rxr> hm - the binary subversion package does not seem to be for my 10.2:
16:42 < rxr> bash-2.05a$ /usr/local/bin/svn
16:42 < rxr> dyld: /usr/local/bin/svn can't open library: /usr/lib/libiconv.2.dylib (No such file or directory, errno = 2)
16:43 < daja77> O_o
16:44 < daja77> hm i built svn on mac myself ..
16:44 * rxr does try this now ...
16:45 < daja77> guess you'll have to build bdb before
16:45 < rxr> oehm - when I do not want the server part ...
16:45 < rxr> it should build without it ...
16:46 < daja77> yep
16:46 < rxr> especially since svn 1.1 has fs-fs backend - so it does not really depend on the bdb for the server anyway
16:46 < daja77> ah yes, haven't had a look at that
16:51 * valentin driving home
16:57 < blindcoder> rehi
16:58 * blindcoder is drowning in coffee beans
17:00 < blindcoder> 750g cafe crema, 500g ordinary tchibo, and 5x50g different beans in test packages
17:01 < mnemoc> there is a clean way to remove copyright from a file?
17:06 < rxr> mnemoc: what copyright?
17:07 < rxr> just wipe all kinds of comments away if you speak about t2 / rock copyrights ...
17:07 < mnemoc> if i wipe out any comment i'll damage file content too
17:07 < rxr> and squeeze subsequent newlines into a single one ...
17:07 < rxr> do you need it for the comparator?
17:07 < mnemoc> yes
17:08 < rxr> well - then used the BEGIN END tags to just wipe the copyright ...
17:08 < rxr> but for human contact review stipping comments would be enough in my opinioun ...
17:08 < mnemoc> my question was technical :) how can i use BEGIN END tags to wipe :p
17:09 < mnemoc> i want to be able to | patch -p1 :p
17:10 < blindcoder> removeme=0 ; while read line ; do [ "${line//BEGIN/}" != "${line}" ] && removeme=1 ; [ ${removeme} -eq 0 ] && echo ${line} ; [ "${line//END/}" != "${line}" ] && removeme=0 ; done 17:12 < mnemoc> is that safe??
17:12 < blindcoder> no, but a good start if you ask me
17:12 < blindcoder> the //BEGIN/ and //END/ have to be a bit longer
17:13 < blindcoder> to cover more of the whole line, but apart from that it will skip the copyright tag
17:13 < blindcoder> //COPYRIGHT-NOTE-BEGIN/ and //COPYRIGHT-NOTE-END/ respectively
17:13 < blindcoder> that should work
17:13 < mnemoc> what about escaping chars on $line?
17:13 < mnemoc> are they preserved?
17:14 < blindcoder> hmm
17:14 < blindcoder> damn, no
17:15 < blindcoder> '\' is not preserved
17:15 < mnemoc> i was thinking in a dirty
17:16 < mnemoc> count=`wc -l $file`
17:16 < mnemoc> lineno=`grep -c ...... $file | cut`
17:16 < mnemoc> tail -n $( some_math ) $file
17:16 < blindcoder> hmm... I don't think that will work
17:16 < mnemoc> :(
17:17 < mnemoc> why?
17:17 < blindcoder> because not every file has a copyright header, and the header for .desc files varies from the one for .patch files
17:17 < blindcoder> not just in commenting style but also in length
17:18 < mnemoc> uhm...
17:23 < blindcoder> mnemoc: query
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17:31 < rxr> I thing grep or so can more safe and performance optimal be used to strip those ..
17:32 < rxr> mnemoc: I take a look in some minutes, ok?
17:32 < rxr> work on s.th different the next 20 minutes and you get some code :-)?
17:32 * rxr just started a backup of the iBook in order to wipe the HD and start over with OSX 10.3 ...
17:32 < rxr> thus the delay
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17:42 < blindcoder> rehi
17:44 < mnemoc> http://svn.geeks.cl/rock-2.0-mnemoc/WORK/misc/mnemoc/compare.sh
17:44 < mnemoc> blindcoder: can you give it a try?
17:45 < mnemoc> i _think_ it's complete
17:45 < mnemoc> i may need support for RL2.1's forks but i think that can wait
17:47 < mnemoc> rxr: you are welcome too
17:47 < blindcoder> I only have two rock trunks atm
17:48 < mnemoc> rock vs. t2?
17:48 < daja77> what is compare doin?
17:48 < mnemoc> compare pacakges from different trees
17:48 < mnemoc> rock-2.0 vs rock-trunk, rock-daja vs. rock-trunk
17:49 < mnemoc> with -v it also try to produce a good patch
17:49 < daja77> rock-daja differs in one package ;)
17:49 < mnemoc> :)
17:49 < blindcoder> my two rock tree's are at quite some revisions apart atm
17:49 < blindcoder> ~200
17:50 < mnemoc> compare them :D
17:50 < blindcoder> looooooong output
17:50 < mnemoc> you can give it a list of packages or repositories too
17:50 < blindcoder> honestly, I'm not sure what to look for
17:50 < mnemoc> :(
17:52 * blindcoder falls asleep during a svn up...
17:52 < daja77> hehe
17:52 < blindcoder> oh wait, two files have already been altered!
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17:58 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4267 /trunk/package/mnemoc/tla/tla.desc: * tla updated to 1.2.1 (first use of compare.sh :p)
17:59 < daja77> :)
18:00 < mnemoc> i'll do the same on rock-trunk now
18:00 < rxr> cool :-) so we get some commit storm, soon:-)
18:00 < mnemoc> hehe... i'm just testing
18:01 < rxr> mnemoc: have you solved the copyright removal elegantly?
18:01 < mnemoc> take a look into the script and blindy's solution :p
18:02 * mnemoc thinks he should skip [P] when diffing .desc
18:02 < mnemoc> .... no
18:03 * daja77 kicking cups
18:06 < mnemoc> bbl
18:07 < blindcoder> hmm
18:07 < blindcoder> I should abstain from sweet cocktails... they'll be gone too fast :/
18:51 < rxr> hm - so, I hope I did not forget to back up a file ...
18:53 < blindcoder> you did. You will notice 5 seconds after you killed the filesystem :)
18:53 < rxr> yeah - thanks blindcoder ...
18:53 < blindcoder> Just speaking from multiple experience
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19:43 < rxr> re
19:44 < rxr> damn - only Apple alone knows why such a simple deflate installation procedure can be that slow ...
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20:01 < rxr> 2re
20:14 < rxr> well - yet another combined update ...
20:14 < rxr> let's see if 10.3 managed to integrate that one ...
20:15 < rxr> hm
20:15 < rxr> the new terminal has redrawing bugs ...
20:15 < rxr> damn - Apple should hire me ...
20:21 < mnemoc> rehi
20:21 < rxr> hi
20:25 < rxr> hm - scrolling e.g. in safari is quite unsmooth ... :-(
20:26 < mnemoc> flood them with bug reports :p
20:27 < mnemoc> and attach a curriculim :D
20:30 < rxr> hm - why is there no way to "enable s.th. like a status bar in this safari think - so one can see e.g. where a link points to ...
20:31 < rxr> damn - hopefully this vt100 redrawing bug is fixed after this fat combined update ...
20:31 < mnemoc> cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda
20:32 < rxr> nope! I just spend quite some time installint 10.3 ...
20:33 < rxr> I need to do some commercial work on my scanner driver to pay my rental fee ... ;-)
20:33 < rxr> and it is not hda under macosx ;-)
20:33 < rxr> it's /dev/disk0
20:33 < rxr> ;-)
20:33 < rxr> btw, those are mounted:
20:34 < rxr> devfs on /dev (local)
20:34 < rxr> fdesc on /dev (union)
20:34 < mnemoc> fdesc?
20:34 < rxr> I just see them the first time, too ...
20:34 < nzg> what is fdesc?
20:34 < rxr> but the union note indicates s.th. like some virtual write to some file layer
20:35 < rxr> google for it - /me is only a occational mac user ...
20:35 < mnemoc> The fdesc filesystem first appeared in BSD 4.4 . hm...
20:35 < rxr> I bought the iBook to run Linux - mac is less often booted then - hm - then don't known - seldom ..
20:35 < mnemoc> fdesc - file-descriptor file system
20:35 < rxr> whooho - the software update is complete - now the "optimization" is running ...
20:36 * rxr soon rebooting - once more ...
20:37 < rxr> strangely everything not completely open-source tends to like reboots ...
20:37 < rxr> btw. my gsmp.tfh-berlin.de has a cool uptime ;-) > 3xx days ;-)
20:37 < mnemoc> x=0 or x=9?
20:37 < nzg> wow... you should think about participating in "the uptime project"
20:37 < rxr> 371 days
20:39 * mnemoc thinking in how many vulnerabilities may have that machine
20:40 < rxr> hehe - nope openssh was updated ...
20:40 < rxr> but I should do a rebuild some tools round again ;-)
20:40 < nzg> what about kernel/libc vulnerabilities?
20:41 < rxr> s
20:41 < rxr> hm
20:41 < rxr> interesting
20:41 < rxr> I resized the terminal and now the redrawing bug is gone ...
20:41 < mnemoc> rxr ignoring topic :p
20:42 < rxr> okok - I log into the box and update some user-space stuff ;-)
20:42 < mnemoc> =)
20:43 < rxr> optimizing at 96% ;-)
20:43 < rxr> this optimizing stuff include stuff like an prelinking equivalent ...
20:43 < mnemoc> what does suppose to mean?
20:43 < rxr> you do not know prelinking under e.g. linux?
20:44 < rxr> ping?
20:44 < mnemoc> optimizing at 96%
20:45 < rxr> just that it is slow - takes a lot of time - and I reboot now ;-)
20:45 < rxr> do you need to write some prelinking summary?
20:45 < mnemoc> no thanks :|
20:45 < rxr> oki
20:45 * rxr rebooting - back in some minutes :-(
20:45 < mnemoc> again??
20:48 < rxr> re
20:48 < rxr> yep ...
20:48 < rxr> first I installed 10.3
20:49 < rxr> and now I applied the sofftware updates from the internet - > 100MB ...
20:49 < mnemoc> 5% of original size?
20:49 < rxr> hm?
20:50 < mnemoc> 100MB
20:50 < rxr> well - only updates like security stuff ...
20:50 < rxr> I find 100MB quite large ....
20:50 < mnemoc> me too
20:51 < rxr> damn - where is xcode and gcc
20:51 < mnemoc> hehe
20:51 < rxr> I seem to have missed s.th. during the installation
20:52 < rxr> why is this so dificult
20:52 < rxr> my t2 is somehow easier ...
20:52 < mnemoc> rxr: don't use your brain just click next
20:52 < rxr> I did - and miss gcc and xcode ....
20:52 < rxr> and maybe more ...
20:53 < mnemoc> brain-less people doesn't need gcc and xcode
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20:53 < rxr> hehe
20:53 < mnemoc> brb
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20:55 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4268 /trunk/package/mnemoc/tla/tla.desc: * priority restored to tla (sorry)
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21:22 < rxr> do me on the athlon now - osx sucks too much
21:23 * daja77 grins
21:23 < rxr> does anyone know if irssi has (incremental) search in the scrollback buffer?
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22:28 < rxr> osx is to easy for me ...
22:28 < rxr> I do not get it installed properly ...
22:33 < rxr> wow - even the apple developer member site has grave bugs ...
22:34 < daja77> hehe that site sucks
22:34 < daja77> and their news letter sucks too
22:34 < rxr> hm - I updated my mail address to exactcode.de
22:34 < rxr> (from rocklinux.org)
22:35 < rxr> and I still have to log in using the old ID ?!?!?!
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22:35 < freed> hi all
22:35 < rxr> hi
22:36 < freed> hi rxr
22:36 < freed> so der groesste schaden is behoben
22:37 < rxr> nice ;-)
22:37 < rxr> maybe we could talk about a solution that the gsmp. is more directly conencted to the net - so nexus failures do not have impact on the gsmp. box ...
22:38 < rxr> me is really tooo stupid to find the development incl. xcode packages on the macosx CD
22:38 < rxr> it it would not be an DVD original one could say damn raw-copied
22:39 < rxr> but since it is a shining Apple ressed DVD I really wonder how it is intended to get Xcode on a box using that DVD set ...
22:39 < daja77> you can get xcode from the net no?
22:39 < rxr> me downloading a 350MB Xcode CD image now - let's if I get a developer toolchain from it ...
22:40 < rxr> apple claims 10.3 includes it - I wanted s.th. that fits all well together - s.th. that is garanteed to work ...
22:40 < daja77> ^^
22:47 < rxr> freed: how are you?
22:54 < rxr> btw, in kde-3.3.1 the plastik theme should be much faster ;-)
22:57 < rxr> the download manager thing sucks majorly, too
22:58 < rxr> can not even pause resume downloads - seems to strat from teh beginning
22:58 * rxr notes - never click the stop button ...
22:59 < rxr> ^- psx pf cpirse mpt lde :-)
23:01 < rxr> ic - I'll have _much_ fun under osx ...
23:01 < rxr> hm - I should switch to run it over mol again, at least I would have a linux handy ....
23:01 < rxr> hm - ok - the gui would be a bit sloppy then ... :-(
23:03 < rxr> hm - interesting - under 10.3 the windows media player starts to install ...
23:24 < rxr> so, this is why people watch anke latenight - waiting for macosx becoming usable ...
23:25 < daja77> rofl
23:26 < rxr> well at least some photo morphing was a bit funny right now ...
23:26 < rxr> well - if I would not have tried to pause the xcode download with the "start from zero" it would already be finished :-(
23:27 < daja77> <- ordered dsl today
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23:49 < mnemoc> rehi
23:49 < rxr> rehi mnemoc
23:57 < rxr> (grep -B 100000 -- '--- ROCK-COPYRIGHT-NOTE-BEGIN ---' xine-lib.desc ; grep -A 100000 -- '--- ROCK-COPYRIGHT-NOTE-END ---' xine-lib.desc ) | grep -v ROCK-COPYRIGHT-NOTE
23:57 < rxr> ^- should be more efficient for large files ..
23:57 < rxr> too bad I can not get rid of the 3rd damn grep ...
23:58 < rxr> but maybe you find a variant grep likes ...
23:58 < rxr> btw better just used COPYRIGHT-NOTE without ROCK ...
23:58 < rxr> in T2 we will use an own, more community style copyright ... tagged with T2 ...
23:58 < rxr> autsch
23:59 < rxr> xcode needs 1.2_GB_ of disk space ... ?!?!?!?!
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