T2 IRC Log: 2004-10-11

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--- Log opened Mon Oct 11 00:00:46 2004
00:23 < CIA-9> rene * r4249 /trunk/package/scientific/octave-forge/ ( octave-forge.desc): * added octave-forge - untested, still building on the slow G3 ...
00:30 < rxr> running octave* update-test on the athlon ...
00:30 < rxr> my G3 is so slow it already builds octave for 50 minutes ...
00:31 < rxr> or so ...
00:38 < rxr> n8 all, /me -> bed
03:33 < mnemoc> *yawn*
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04:44 * sparc-kly is away: NO WAYYY FOR YOU
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07:57 < blindcoder> ùæ/away
07:57 < blindcoder> moin
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10:21 < rxr> moin
10:36 < CIA-9> rene * r4250 /trunk/package/base/distcc/distcc.desc: * updated distcc (2.17 -> 2.18)
10:58 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.247.150.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
10:58 -!- Topic for #t2: T2, a preleminary name. Submit cool naming suggestions (without linux) here ;-)
10:58 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Wed Oct 6 17:56:16 2004]
10:58 [Users #t2]
10:58 [ blindcoder] [ daja77] [ martin_] [ Ragnar0k_] [ rxr_ ]
10:58 [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw_ ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
10:58 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 10 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal]
10:58 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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11:05 < CIA-9> jsaw * r4251 /trunk/package/dictionary/doxygen/ (doxygen-install.patch doxygen.conf doxygen.desc):
11:05 < CIA-9> * update doxygen to version 1.3.9
11:05 < CIA-9> * remove install patch
11:05 < CIA-9> * build wizard if possible (depends on qt)
11:09 < CIA-9> jsaw * r4252 /trunk/package/ (8 files in 2 dirs): * move doxygen into develop/ directory
11:29 < CIA-9> jsaw * r4253 /trunk/scripts/functions: * add "pkgsel_parse" function
11:34 < CIA-9> rene * r4254 /trunk/package/games/torcs/ (torcs.conf torcs.desc):
11:34 < CIA-9> * updated torcs (1.2.1 -> 1.2.2) and added the the data files
11:34 < CIA-9> (also source extraction cleanups on the way)
13:26 < rxr> this is unblelievable - Microsoft does not even get MacOSX versions right
13:26 < rxr> I now try to install the microsoft media player 4 macosx for 30 minutes or so - without sueccess ...
13:28 < daja77> there is a nice polished mplayer for macosx iirc
13:29 < daja77> the not ms mplayer i mean
13:29 < rxr> I do not need mplayer in macosx - I want to watch one encrypted wmv file nothing but the windows media player supports ...
13:30 < rxr> otherwise I do not boot into this crappy pseudo os thing ...
13:32 < rxr> the only thing it does well is rendering transparent windows - allmost everything else sucks ...
13:33 < daja77> ic
13:36 < rxr> hm ktrace has too much noise ..
13:36 < rxr> ok rm -rf some-video.wmv
13:38 * rxr running a 100MB++ software update of MacOSX ...
13:39 < CIA-9> jsaw * r4255 /trunk/package/develop/doxygen/ (doxygen.conf doxywizard-flex-bug.patch):
13:39 < CIA-9> * actually pass arguments to the ./configure scripts (needed,
13:39 < CIA-9> so that it's installed in $prefix and not in /usr/local)
13:39 < CIA-9> * add a hotfix for some screw-up due to flex and C++ usage
13:40 < rxr> wow - cool update - imporoved reliability of - yeah! the "Address Book" ;-)
13:41 < daja77> lol
13:41 < rxr> haeh?
13:41 * rxr running a 100MB++ software update of
13:41 < rxr> mom
13:42 < rxr> hm - cut'n paste into the macosx termnal sucks, too
13:42 < daja77> yep
13:42 < daja77> <- using the xterm on macosx
13:42 < rxr> oops
13:42 < rxr> shit damn fucking crap here
13:42 < rxr> now the software updater crashed while I selected the text
13:42 < rxr> what unbelivable crap does these compaies ship ...
13:44 < rxr> About the Battery Update
13:44 < rxr> The Battery Update enhances the performance of the battery to ensure that full capacity is available for your PowerBook or iBook.
13:44 < rxr> ...
13:44 < rxr> Note: Once the Battery Update software has been installed, each battery you install in your PowerBook or iBook will be updated automatically.
13:44 < rxr> ?!?!?!
13:45 < rxr> this software updates does s.th. with the smart battery!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
13:45 < rxr> ok - now it wants to reboot - cu
13:45 < daja77> cu
13:48 < rxr> re
13:54 < rxr> quicktime updated - next reboot ...
13:57 < rxr> re
13:57 < rxr> T2 boots soo much faster then this slow osx ;-)
14:14 < rxr> hm - this damn osx can not install the combined updates for 10.2 .. :-( 100MB in size - ok - /me booting into a working linux ...
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14:19 < rxr> re
14:19 * rxr back in linux
14:19 < rxr> puh
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15:35 < mnemoc> moin
15:36 < mnemoc> jsaw! question: am i wrong or your pkgsel parser doesn't support categories?
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17:40 < sparc-kly> hi ppl
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18:52 < martin_> re
18:56 < Ragnar0k_> oin
18:56 < Ragnar0k_> +m
19:13 < rxr> re
19:14 < rxr> hi mnemoc
19:14 < rxr> so /me back to math
19:14 < mnemoc> moin martin_ rxr Ragnar0k_ nzg
19:15 < mnemoc> cu rxr :\
19:15 < nzg> moin mnemoc
19:15 < rxr> no - hanging here in the background - practising math ...
19:15 < rxr> not that away ...
19:16 < rxr> and I try to debug the new octave-forge package in the background ...
19:16 < mnemoc> :)
19:17 < mnemoc> OT: can i pipe out an if/fi ?
19:18 < rxr> what?
19:18 < mnemoc> if true; then true; fi 1>&2
19:19 < mnemoc> or should i ( true ) 1>&2 ?
19:19 < rxr> hm - unsure - test the first variant ...
19:19 < rxr> but I guess it will not work
19:20 < mnemoc> simple example worked... i'll see the complex after finishing the script
19:21 < mnemoc> rxr: comparing two (or more trees) what may i need? version, cache-status, and?
19:22 < mnemoc> diff may be usefull but /me wonders how to remove the copyright header from them.... uhm
19:22 < rxr> to compary the packages in rock-like trees?
19:22 < mnemoc> yes
19:23 < rxr> just use the version
19:23 < mnemoc> that's simple :)
19:23 < rxr> if you want to compare the rest, you would need to squeeze whitespaces and rip out the copyright and such - and diff (or checksum) that
19:24 < rxr> otherwise nearly every package will differ ...
19:32 < martin_> hi rxr
19:36 < rxr> hi mnemoc
19:36 < rxr> martin_: even ;-)
19:37 < mnemoc> :)
19:43 < mnemoc> IFS=';' for x in $SEMICOLONDELIMITED; do ?
19:45 < mnemoc> rxr: is ^^^ valid?
19:46 < rxr> ouhm - look ok ...
19:46 < mnemoc> thanks :)
19:46 < mnemoc> i have never used IFS=
19:46 < rxr> hm - but does not work ...
19:47 < mnemoc> :(
19:47 < mnemoc> s/;/:/g ?
19:47 < rxr> afaics you can not use ; in IFS, right?
19:48 < rxr> hm - I think it does not work in the for statement ...
19:48 < mnemoc> does it work for :? .... i have no easy access to shell right now
19:48 < rxr> mom - me playing with it
19:51 < rxr> hm
19:53 * rxr too stupid right now to get this working :-(
19:53 < mnemoc> :)
19:54 < rxr> ;-?
19:57 < mnemoc> :(
19:59 < rxr> ok - next cool commit running
19:59 < rxr> should I play with IFS a bit more, or do you found out what you need yourself already?
20:00 < CIA-7> rene * r4256 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
20:00 < CIA-7> * updated gsl (1.4 -> 1.5) - needed by octave-forge
20:00 < CIA-7> * updated octave (2.1.57 -> 2.1.58) - tested
20:00 < CIA-7> * updated octave-forge (2004.07.07 -> 2004.09.09) - tested
20:02 < mnemoc> rxr: nope, i get syntax errors :\
20:02 < rxr> do not try to use IFS=; ;-)
20:04 * rxr testing the above commit on the iBook ;-)
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20:11 < rxr> mnemoc: this works:
20:11 < rxr> IFS=':' ; for x in $(echo a:b:c) ; do echo "$x" ; done ; echo
20:12 < rxr> current the bash confuses me - /me better back to math ... ;-) examination tomorrow ...
20:13 < mnemoc_> shouldn't i reset IFS to ' \t\n' ?
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20:19 < rxr> yep - if u use it later - reset it
20:29 < mnemoc> rxr: http://svn.geeks.cl/rock-2.0-mnemoc/WORK/misc/mnemoc/compare.sh
20:33 < mnemoc> rxr: gimp needs libgimpprint which is part of gnome14, then gimp needs gtk+14? :(
20:34 < rxr> nope gimp isd gtk2 only ...
20:35 < rxr> we need to review what's up with gimpprint these days ...
20:35 < rxr> you can build gimp without print support by passing --disable-print or --disable-gimpprint or so ...
20:36 < rxr> maybe we should do this via pkginstalled gimpprint || var_append confopt " " "--disable-print" or so
20:36 < mnemoc> Gimp-Print 4.2.7
20:36 < rxr> gimp-print42 has this in the .cache: glib12 gtk+12
20:36 < mnemoc> there is a 5.x tree
20:36 < mnemoc> on beta
20:37 < rxr> in rock I tried to package 4.3 or so in parallel - but i removed it later because it never matched any gimp release and most often did not even build ...
20:37 < mnemoc> o_O
20:38 < rxr> I give it a try ...
20:43 < CIA-7> rene * r4257 /trunk/package/ (gnome14/gimp-print42/ print/gimp-print42/): * moved gimp-print into print
20:43 < CIA-7> rene * r4258 /trunk/package/print/ (gimp-print/ gimp-print42/): * rename gimp-print42 -> gimp-print part I
20:44 < CIA-7> rene * r4259 /trunk/package/print/gimp-print/ (6 files): * rename gimp-print42 -> gimp-print part II
20:44 < mnemoc> renaming dirs in subversion is flawed :\ .... it should not need commits
20:49 < rxr> yeah - well ...
20:49 < rxr> I should play with it a bit more to find the optimal way to use it ...
20:49 < CIA-7> rene * r4260 /trunk/package/ (4 files in 4 dirs): * manual dependency substitution after the gimp-print rename
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22:36 < jsaw> hi
22:36 < mnemoc> jsaw: hi
22:36 < mnemoc> jsaw: does your pkgsel parser support categories?
22:36 < jsaw> hi mnemoc
22:37 < jsaw> eehhh, categories?
22:37 < jsaw> ah, you mean "X perl/*"
22:37 < mnemoc> that's a repository for your new parser
22:37 < mnemoc> what about categories?
22:38 < jsaw> no, no categories.
22:38 < mnemoc> that's bad :p
22:38 < jsaw> would require parsing the .desc files...
22:38 < jsaw> guess this is left out for C++?
22:38 < mnemoc> categories are on config/$foo/packages
22:38 < mnemoc> and they use to work ,)
22:40 < jsaw> ah, I see.
22:40 < mnemoc> think about it.... i have to go now
22:40 < jsaw> have to correct this.
22:40 < jsaw> cu bye
22:40 < rxr> hi jsaw
22:40 < mnemoc> cu jsaw, rxr
22:40 < jsaw> hi rxr
22:40 < rxr> cu mnemoc
22:41 < mnemoc> rxr: http://svn.geeks.cl/rock-2.0-mnemoc/WORK/misc/mnemoc/compare.sh
22:41 < mnemoc> bye
22:41 < rxr> yes - already saw the link
22:41 < rxr> you want to keep t2 in sync with rock-xy updates? *g*
22:42 < rxr> valentin: you need to get the automatic updated to work ;-)
22:43 < rxr> so we have as many commits as gentoo and freebsd ;-)
22:43 < rxr> http://cia.navi.cx/
22:43 < rxr> ^- visit it the next 17 minuts ,-)
22:49 < valentin> mnemoc: automated rock / t2 comparism ?
22:49 < rxr> oh my does octave build long on ppc ... :-(
22:49 < rxr> == 21:11:34 =[9]=> Building scientific/octave [2.1.59 2.1.0-beta].
22:51 < nzg> rxr: t2 is not listed in the most-active list
22:52 < rxr> valentin: there you hear it - we need the update tracker? ;-)!
22:52 < valentin> yep
22:52 < rxr> nzg: /me doing math for uni ... these days ...
22:53 < rxr> 19 commits per day is not much to get into the active list ;-) there will be weeks where we are in
22:54 < rxr> valentin: but before you waste too much time on it - PR papers are at least equally important ...
22:56 < nzg> don't you need a name for doing pr?
22:57 < rxr> sure - but for the linux world expo t2 must be good enough
22:57 < nzg> why not leave it t2?
22:57 < rxr> and maybe we all get used to the name so it will stay t2? ;-)
22:58 < rxr> laws ...
22:58 < nzg> there is a law against?
22:58 < rxr> telecom and telekoms might get upset - as well as terminator 2 movie makers ...
23:00 < nzg> yes.. right... i once got a letter from Gauss Interprise because a friend and mine where making CMS-Systems and distributing them under the Trademark "UVIP"
23:01 < nzg> and "YouVIP" which is to similar to "VIP"
23:01 < nzg> what about "tech2" that should be ok
23:01 < rxr> valentin already proposed to use technology-two-project or so - and use t2 as inofficial abbreviation ...
23:02 < nzg> that would be bad if you think about CI
23:04 < rxr> CI, what?
23:04 < nzg> Corporate Identity
23:05 < nzg> a consistent branding throughout PR/web/BBS/ML/Chat makes it easier for outsiders to
23:05 < nzg> get a clue about what is up
23:07 < nzg> or eg why i never now if rl .org or .net is the site with the content i want
23:07 < rxr> sure
23:07 < nzg> they don't even look like they're from the same people
23:08 < rxr> ;-) hehe
23:09 < nzg> it'S really confusing ;-)
23:09 < rxr> ok - me a last tiny meal - and then off - sleeping fore the math exam - cu all && n8
23:10 < nzg> n8 and good luck in the exam
23:10 < nzg> cu
23:22 < valentin> gn8 and good luck
23:37 < jsaw> btw, BaseTwo *grin*
23:41 < rxr> hehe - BaseTwo is cool ;-)!
23:42 < valentin> hey rxr, still awake ?
23:44 < jsaw> :( way too many google hits for "basetwo"
23:45 < rxr> cool is the walnut tree here near my flat - cool fresh nuts on my way home and for stuff like sitting around here ;-)
23:46 < jsaw> fresh-nuts
23:46 < valentin> rxr: nice
23:47 < rxr> so - me bed ready - cu tomorrow - either still student or not ;-)
23:47 < jsaw> sleep well
23:48 < rxr> how I love the horse power of this book:
23:48 < rxr> == 10/12/04 23:36:58 =[9]=> Finished building package octave.
23:48 < rxr> ... ...
23:48 < rxr> let's see if I have this in the morning ;-):
23:48 < rxr> == 23:44:02 =[9]=> Building scientific/octave-forge [2004.09.09 2.1.0-beta].
23:48 < rxr> n8
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