T2 IRC Log: 2010-11-16
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--- Log opened Tue Nov 16 00:00:41 2010
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12:29 < rogermason> morning
12:31 < rogermason> on one of my machines I have 2 versions of perl: 5.8.8 in /usr/local and 5.12.2 in /usr. When I try to install a perl module (perl-libwww) using T2 I get a shared files error against the version in /usr/local. I have taken /usr/local out of roots path but the error persists. Is there a fix?
12:40 < rxr> you do intentionally have a perl in /usr/local? installed it there manually? as t2 is not supposed to place it there
12:50 < rogermason> installed manually for a specific (manually installed app that won't work with 5.12.2).
13:35 < rxr> can you post the shared file error? I do not really see hoe t2 should find collisious with manually installed files
13:54 < rogermason> I pasted the error log here: http://pastebin.ca/1993336
13:55 < rogermason> before attempting to Emerge-Pkg I moved the perl stuff out of /usr/local, ran mine -r perl then Emerged perl again, but the error persists.
14:07 < rxr> but that error is not about shared files, but that the package installed into /usr/local which is not considered a place where a system should place files
14:07 < rxr> there is soms uselocal=1 variable or something like that
14:07 < rxr> but in general that should probably not touched
14:07 < rxr> the problem is more that the packages picks up using the higher priority /usr/local perl, ...
14:11 < rogermason> but now I don't have perl in /usr/local - I moved it away and I took out /usr/local/bin from root's path.
14:14 < rxr> the issue is with perl-libwww, so you do not need to mine -rf perl, but just perl-libwww as it has installed the files in /usr/local
14:17 < rogermason> so, even when Emerge-Pkg ends with an error, files can still be installed?
14:17 < rxr> in these cases yes, the files wher einstalled and the t2 scripts indicate that packages should really not install into /usr/local, ...
14:18 < rogermason> OK. mine -rf fixed it.
14:18 < rogermason> thanks!
14:20 < rogermason> I have another question. Hope you don't mind.
14:23 < rogermason> yesterday I used Build-Target to build an updated kernel, having added support for a wacom tablet in the config file. the build finished but reported this: tar: usr/src/linux26-patches/unionfs-2.5.4_for_2.6.33.diff.bz2: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
14:23 < rogermason> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
14:24 < rxr> guess there is some unionfs glue to update
14:25 < rogermason> can i ignore the error and install on some machine?
14:25 < rxr> probably, unionfs is "only" (mostly) needed for livecd-alike optical media boot setups
14:26 < rogermason> OK. when I use stone to install the new kernel, will the existing kernal remain as a backup?
14:28 < rxr> how do you plan to install that?
14:28 < rxr> you could just install the kernel with mine in a running system
14:28 < rxr> as long as it has another version the 2 versions will co-exist under the package name linux26
14:30 < rogermason> put my usb stick in the target box, run stone on the target, with usb stick as source, and select the kernel, which I presume will show up in base packages. Is there an easier way?
14:31 < rxr> just mine -i the package on the machine and add the kernel to the boot loader menu (either manually by cut'n paste or re-running the stone kernel list generation) and reboot
14:31 < rxr> you could even Emerge-Pkg the kernel update from source
14:33 < rogermason> so, I could scp the tar.bz2 file to the target machine and run mine -i *.tar.bz2?
14:38 < rxr> yep
14:42 < rogermason> OK. will try that.
14:44 < rogermason> by the way, the version gimp (2.6.11) currently in trunk compiles fine but segfaults when an attempt is made to do file -> open. The problem has been reported before with older versions. I obtained yesterday a patch purporting to fix the problem. The patch applies but does not result in a fix.
14:58 < rxr> on ppc64 or x86* ?
14:58 < rogermason> x86 (32)
14:59 < rxr> ok, that should indeed be the most solid "everything works" arch :-), strange thing
15:44 < rogermason> scp then mine -i worked like a charm. Thanks.
16:42 < rxr> welcome :-)
16:42 < rxr> sorry for the recent delay, got a bit busy on my desk
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12:29 < rogermason> morning
12:31 < rogermason> on one of my machines I have 2 versions of perl: 5.8.8 in /usr/local and 5.12.2 in /usr. When I try to install a perl module (perl-libwww) using T2 I get a shared files error against the version in /usr/local. I have taken /usr/local out of roots path but the error persists. Is there a fix?
12:40 < rxr> you do intentionally have a perl in /usr/local? installed it there manually? as t2 is not supposed to place it there
12:50 < rogermason> installed manually for a specific (manually installed app that won't work with 5.12.2).
13:35 < rxr> can you post the shared file error? I do not really see hoe t2 should find collisious with manually installed files
13:54 < rogermason> I pasted the error log here: http://pastebin.ca/1993336
13:55 < rogermason> before attempting to Emerge-Pkg I moved the perl stuff out of /usr/local, ran mine -r perl then Emerged perl again, but the error persists.
14:07 < rxr> but that error is not about shared files, but that the package installed into /usr/local which is not considered a place where a system should place files
14:07 < rxr> there is soms uselocal=1 variable or something like that
14:07 < rxr> but in general that should probably not touched
14:07 < rxr> the problem is more that the packages picks up using the higher priority /usr/local perl, ...
14:11 < rogermason> but now I don't have perl in /usr/local - I moved it away and I took out /usr/local/bin from root's path.
14:14 < rxr> the issue is with perl-libwww, so you do not need to mine -rf perl, but just perl-libwww as it has installed the files in /usr/local
14:17 < rogermason> so, even when Emerge-Pkg ends with an error, files can still be installed?
14:17 < rxr> in these cases yes, the files wher einstalled and the t2 scripts indicate that packages should really not install into /usr/local, ...
14:18 < rogermason> OK. mine -rf fixed it.
14:18 < rogermason> thanks!
14:20 < rogermason> I have another question. Hope you don't mind.
14:23 < rogermason> yesterday I used Build-Target to build an updated kernel, having added support for a wacom tablet in the config file. the build finished but reported this: tar: usr/src/linux26-patches/unionfs-2.5.4_for_2.6.33.diff.bz2: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
14:23 < rogermason> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
14:24 < rxr> guess there is some unionfs glue to update
14:25 < rogermason> can i ignore the error and install on some machine?
14:25 < rxr> probably, unionfs is "only" (mostly) needed for livecd-alike optical media boot setups
14:26 < rogermason> OK. when I use stone to install the new kernel, will the existing kernal remain as a backup?
14:28 < rxr> how do you plan to install that?
14:28 < rxr> you could just install the kernel with mine in a running system
14:28 < rxr> as long as it has another version the 2 versions will co-exist under the package name linux26
14:30 < rogermason> put my usb stick in the target box, run stone on the target, with usb stick as source, and select the kernel, which I presume will show up in base packages. Is there an easier way?
14:31 < rxr> just mine -i the package on the machine and add the kernel to the boot loader menu (either manually by cut'n paste or re-running the stone kernel list generation) and reboot
14:31 < rxr> you could even Emerge-Pkg the kernel update from source
14:33 < rogermason> so, I could scp the tar.bz2 file to the target machine and run mine -i *.tar.bz2?
14:38 < rxr> yep
14:42 < rogermason> OK. will try that.
14:44 < rogermason> by the way, the version gimp (2.6.11) currently in trunk compiles fine but segfaults when an attempt is made to do file -> open. The problem has been reported before with older versions. I obtained yesterday a patch purporting to fix the problem. The patch applies but does not result in a fix.
14:58 < rxr> on ppc64 or x86* ?
14:58 < rogermason> x86 (32)
14:59 < rxr> ok, that should indeed be the most solid "everything works" arch :-), strange thing
15:44 < rogermason> scp then mine -i worked like a charm. Thanks.
16:42 < rxr> welcome :-)
16:42 < rxr> sorry for the recent delay, got a bit busy on my desk
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