--- Log opened Wed Aug 04 00:00:49 2010 00:37 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@HSI-KBW-078-043-206-194.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #t2 00:37 < jsaw> hi 00:37 < jsaw> again too late? 00:37 < jsaw> seems so... 00:40 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@HSI-KBW-078-043-206-194.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:47 -!- Stealth [stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:48 -!- Stealth [stealth@188.138.48.23] has joined #t2 00:48 -!- Stealth [stealth@188.138.48.23] has quit [Changing host] 00:48 -!- Stealth [stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 05:48 -!- dimm_w [~dimm@95-24-155-70.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #t2 09:53 <@rxr> jsaw!! 09:56 < CIA-32> aldas * r37050 /trunk/package/network/squid/squid.desc: * updated squid (3.1.5 -> 3.1.6) 09:56 < CIA-32> aldas * r37051 /trunk/package/network/iptables/iptables.desc: * updated iptables (1.4.8 -> 1.4.9) 10:05 < CIA-32> aldas * r37052 /trunk/package/base/autoconf/ (autoconf.desc hot-fix.patch): * updated autoconf (2.66 -> 2.67) 10:31 -!- Baldzius [~aldas@87-198-133-94.ptr.magnet.ie] has joined #t2 10:31 < Baldzius> moin 10:39 <@rxr> hi Baldzius 10:39 < Baldzius> hey rxr 10:40 < CIA-32> rene * r37054 /trunk/package/network/slsnif/ (. slsnif.cache slsnif.desc): 10:40 < CIA-32> Marian Aldenhoevel 10:40 < CIA-32> * added slsnif (0.4.4) - A serial-line sniffing tool 10:50 < CIA-32> rene * r37055 /trunk/package/develop/smalltalk/smalltalk.desc: * updated smalltalk (3.2.1 -> 3.2.2) 10:54 < Baldzius> rxr: how you think, should I commit ccache update? 10:54 < Baldzius> still cmake doesn't hit cache but overall it works much better for me on VM 10:54 <@rxr> did not test it, but yes 10:54 < Baldzius> super 10:54 <@rxr> guess cmake did not hit before either, ... 10:54 < Baldzius> not sure 10:54 < Baldzius> I think it did long long ago 10:55 < Baldzius> but somehow ccache never worked on my VM 10:55 < Baldzius> only when I got 3.x 10:55 <@rxr> commit, one (I, preferable anyone) can always hunt some case not hitting the cache, ... 10:55 < Baldzius> yeah 10:58 <@rxr> http://www.tomshardware.com/picturestory/550-gold-motherboard-chemistry.html 10:59 < CIA-32> rene * r37056 /trunk/package/xorg/libxi/libxi.desc: * updated libxi (1.3.1 -> 1.3.2) 11:03 < CIA-32> rene * r37053 /trunk/package/network/scope/ (. scope.cache scope.desc): 11:03 < CIA-32> Marian Aldenhoevel : 11:03 < CIA-32> * added scope (0.0.4) - A serial-line eavesdropping tool 11:09 < CIA-32> aldas * r37057 /trunk/package/develop/ccache/ (4 files): * updated ccache (2.4 -> 3.0.1) 11:26 < Baldzius> btw new ccache prints syntax errors running on top of ver 2.x but I don't this is a big deal 11:27 < Baldzius> it goes away until it reaches/finishes ccache compile 11:28 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: rogermason, CIA-32 11:29 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rogermason 11:34 -!- CIA-46 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 11:34 < CIA-46> aldas * r37060 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.34.1 -> 2.6.34.2) 11:44 <@rxr> oh nice 11:45 < CIA-46> rene * r37061 /trunk/package/graphic/dcraw/dcraw.desc: * updated dcraw (9.03 -> 9.04) 11:58 < CIA-46> aldas * r37062 /trunk/package/develop/gcc/gcc.desc: * updated gcc (4.5.0 -> 4.5.1) 12:06 < Baldzius> I have some local update here like pam, shadow, sysvinit 12:06 < Baldzius> will try them on virtualbox before commiting 12:07 <@rxr> if they build just commit to trunk 12:07 < Baldzius> ok 12:07 <@rxr> I can quickly test in trunk and am about to spin a new full tree rebuild, ... 12:09 < CIA-46> aldas * r37063 /trunk/package/base/pam/pam.desc: * updated pam (0.99.9.0 -> 1.1.1) 12:09 < CIA-46> aldas * r37065 /trunk/package/base/sysvinit/sysvinit.desc: * updated sysvinit (2.86 -> 2.88) 12:09 < Baldzius> done 12:09 < CIA-46> aldas * r37064 /trunk/package/base/shadow/ (shadow.desc usreadd_fix-2.patch): * updated shadow (4.0.18.1 -> 4.1.4.2) 12:10 < Baldzius> what about linux kernel 2.6.35? 12:10 < Baldzius> wait till .1? 12:10 <@rxr> I usually love to wait for the .1 patch :-) 12:10 <@rxr> -ETOOBROKEN otherwise, ... 12:10 <@rxr> but, well you can also update if you like 12:12 < Baldzius> Greg started releasing stable patches very seldom 12:12 < Baldzius> might take 3-4 weeks for first one 12:13 < Baldzius> he gets them in big chunks now 12:13 <@rxr> I still find the usual .0 major release regressions too heftly, .. 12:13 <@rxr> but I can use slightly older cherry picks anyway 12:14 <@rxr> so if you desperately want to update feel free to 12:14 < Baldzius> ok, I'll see how it goes 12:23 < CIA-46> aldas * r37066 /branches/8.0/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.34.1 -> 2.6.34.2) in branches/8.0 12:24 < CIA-46> aldas * r37067 /branches/8.0/package/graphic/ilmbase/gcc43.patch: 12:24 < CIA-46> * merged r36994 from trunk to branches/8.0: 12:24 < CIA-46> fixed ilmbase for gcc >= 4.3 12:51 < CIA-46> aldas * r37068 /trunk/package/network/nginx/nginx.desc: * updated nginx (0.7.64 -> 0.8.48) 12:59 < CIA-46> aldas * r37069 /branches/8.0/package/network/nginx/nginx.desc: 12:59 < CIA-46> * merged r37068 from trunk to branches/8.0: 12:59 < CIA-46> updated nginx (0.7.64 -> 0.8.48) 13:39 < CIA-46> aldas * r37070 /trunk/package/multimedia/linphone/linphone.desc: * updated linphone (3.2.1 -> 3.3.2) 13:42 < CIA-46> aldas * r37071 /trunk/package/develop/devicekit-power/: * droped devicekit-power, deprecated by upower 13:47 < CIA-46> aldas * r37072 /trunk/package/gnome2/upower/ (. upower.cache upower.conf upower.desc): * added upower (0.9.5) - An abstraction for enumerating power devices 14:10 <@rxr> re 14:14 <@rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/unionfs.html 14:33 <@rxr> unionfs folks are funny: 14:33 <@rxr> -[D] 1135006475 unionfs-2.5.4_for_2.6.33.diff.gz http://download.filesystems.org/unionfs/unionfs-2.x/ 14:33 <@rxr> +[D] 1184096779 unionfs-2.5.4_for_2.6.34-rc0.diff.gz http://download.filesystems.org/unionfs/unionfs-2.x/ 14:33 <@rxr> notice the same checksum, and no, no typo on my side, I double checked, ... 14:33 <@rxr> so they just cp'ed the file saying yeah, still compatible or what???? 15:14 < rogermason> Hello. I just posted on the mailing list a patch to include keychain in T2. 15:15 <@rxr> just some second ago? Because I do not see it, yet, ... 15:18 < rogermason> yes. Maybe you did not see the patch for fvwm-themes-extra I left there yesterday either. 15:18 <@rxr> yep, saw that, will apply soonish 15:19 < rogermason> Maybe electrons are crossing the ocean slowly today. 15:21 < Baldzius> oily ocean :) 15:21 < rogermason> By the way: treat any patches from me with extreme caution, I'm still somewhat in the dark on putting this stuff together. 15:21 <@rxr> maybe some oil leaked into the fibres and cover the photons 15:22 < Baldzius> you left some trailing headers from other package 15:22 < Baldzius> I think rxr will spot it easy 15:23 < rogermason> OK, yes, not electrons any more. Well, maybe clouds intefere as the photons beam into space. 15:23 <@rxr> restaring my Mail app helped :-) 15:23 <@rxr> normally stuff does not go into space, too high latency 15:23 < rogermason> trailing headers? You mean the emacs backup files? 15:23 <@rxr> 63000/300000 210ms 15:24 <@rxr> +# T2 SDE: package/.../sysfiles/sysfiles.conf 15:24 <@rxr> +# Copyright (C) 2004 - 2009 The T2 SDE Project 15:24 <@rxr> +# Copyright (C) 1998 - 2003 ROCK Linux Project 15:24 <@rxr> I got a ping time of time=175.7 ms into the US 15:25 <@rxr> time=130.0 ms 15:25 <@rxr> from an ext. data center server 15:25 <@rxr> this can not be space :-) 15:25 < rogermason> Definately electrons then. 15:26 <@rxr> usually fibre optics 15:27 <@rxr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_communications_cable 15:27 < rogermason> yes, of course. Silly me and I work with lasers too. I'm too old for this modern world. 15:27 * rxr too, got only one friend on facebook 15:28 < rogermason> What is facebook? 15:28 <@rxr> don't ask me :-9 15:30 < CIA-46> aldas * r37073 /trunk/package/develop/libedit/ (. libedit.cache libedit.desc): * added libedit (20100424-3.0) - BSD replacement for libreadline 15:30 < Baldzius> heh :) 15:31 < CIA-46> aldas * r37074 /trunk/package/filesystem/ceph/ (. ceph.cache ceph.desc): * added ceph (0.21) - Open source distributed file system 15:32 < rogermason> Photons should take about 2.5e-5 seconds. 15:33 <@rxr> from DE to US? or to a geo stationary orbital satelite? 15:34 < rogermason> fibre optic under the Atlantic. It should be around 5000km from here (Newfoundland) to DE. Speed of light in fibre should be around 200000000 km/s. 15:36 <@rxr> ~300000000 m/s 15:38 < rogermason> Damn. Forgot to convert to m. make that 0.025 s. (Refractive index of glass should be around 1.5). 15:39 <@rxr> :-) 15:40 < rogermason> So, 130 ms is not too shabby considering the various switches/hubs and what-not the signal must traverse. 15:59 <@rxr> damn, our trunka nd 8.0 command line fdisk stuff does not 4k align partitions for those new advanced format 4k sector size disk, ... 16:07 * rxr predicted this on day 1: http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/foxit-kills-off-eslick-ebook-reader-focuses-on-licensing-softwa/ 16:12 <@rxr> oh, ok, maybe 8.0 does 4 sector align partitions, did not hat the latest greatest util-linux in that vm :-( 16:13 < Baldzius> Note that the new support for 4K-sector disks is useless in DOS-compatible 16:13 < Baldzius> > mode. The fdisk command prints warning(s) when startup in DOS mode. 16:13 < Baldzius> 2.17.1 16:13 < Baldzius> trunk has 2.18 16:15 < Baldzius> http://lwn.net/Articles/377897/ lots of reading :) 16:19 < CIA-46> aldas * r37075 /trunk/package/office/gnucash/gnucash.desc: * updated gnucash (2.3.12 -> 2.3.14) 16:19 <@rxr> some quick test show copy performance drops by approx 20% here, ... if not aligned 16:30 -!- Baldzius [~aldas@87-198-133-94.ptr.magnet.ie] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:34 -!- ch172 [~chatzilla@213.160.61.86] has joined #t2 16:35 < ch172> I want to compile a new kernel for 12 cpus, how to do? 16:39 <@rxr> add CONFIG_NR_CPUS=12 (or better yet 16 :-) to custom kernel config 16:39 <@rxr> if you have a target: target/.../kernel.conf 16:39 <@rxr> guess it is time to increase that to 32 or so by default t2 kernels for liek x86-64 and ppc64, hm? 16:43 < ch172> Yes, a change to 16 or 32 or so as a default would be fine. I will try it, thank you 16:53 -!- T-One [~T-One@194.183.141.238] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 16:54 <@rxr> ch172: commited, increases for x86-64 and ppc64 16:54 < CIA-46> rene * r37076 /trunk/architecture/ (powerpc64/kernel.conf.m4 x86-64/kernel.conf.sh): 16:54 < CIA-46> * increased default linux kernel supported CPUs from 8 to 32, 16:54 < CIA-46> allows for some 4 physical CPUs x 4 cores or threads, by default 16:54 <@rxr> so the small boxes (x86, ppc32, sparc, arm do not suffer from increased overhead, etc.) 16:56 < CIA-46> rene * r37077 /trunk/architecture/ (powerpc/kernel.conf.m4 powerpc64/kernel.conf.m4): 16:56 < CIA-46> * make SUNGEM NIC support modular, instead built-in, for powerpc, 16:56 < CIA-46> powerpc64 default linux kernel configs 18:29 <@rxr> pff: ld: cannot find -l-lcrypt 19:25 < rogermason> I'm trying to install a _binary_ of ghc. I have this in ghc.conf: 19:25 < rogermason> main_ghc () { 19:25 < rogermason> ./configure 19:25 < rogermason> make install 19:25 < rogermason> } 19:25 < rogermason> custmain="main_ghc" 19:25 < rogermason> autoextract=1 19:26 < rogermason> This is based on the instructions on the ghc web-site. 19:28 < rogermason> The build fails: Making post-install adaptions. 19:28 < rogermason> Found files in /usr/local: 19:28 < rogermason> /usr/local/bin/ghc 19:28 < rogermason> /usr/local/bin/ghc-6.12.3 19:28 < rogermason> 19:28 < rogermason> and many more similar lines. 19:30 < rogermason> The build instruction was: ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg syslinux_minimal -job 5-ghc 19:43 -!- koan [~koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:43 -!- koan [~koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 21:46 -!- dimm_w [~dimm@95-24-155-70.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Ухожу я от вас] --- Log closed Thu Aug 05 00:00:49 2010