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09:02 < Baldzius> moin
09:45 < CIA-29> aldas * r36850 /branches/8.0/package/base/autoconf/hot-fix.patch: 
09:45 < CIA-29> * merged r36782 from trunk to branches/8.0:
09:45 < CIA-29> fix regression of AC_CHECK_SIZEOF on pointer types for autoconf, kudos to rogermason for pointing to fix
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09:47 < CIA-29> aldas * r36851 /branches/8.0/package/xorg/xf86-input-wacom/xf86-input-wacom.desc: 
09:47 < CIA-29> * merged r36781 from trunk to branches/8.0:
09:47 < CIA-29> updated xf86-input-wacom (0.10.3 -> 0.10.7)
09:49 < CIA-29> aldas * r36852 /branches/8.0/package/gnome2/gthumb/gthumb.conf: 
09:49 < CIA-29> * merged r36796 from trunk to branches/8.0:
09:49 < CIA-29> fixed gthumb for 64bits build
09:49 < CIA-29> aldas * r36853 /branches/8.0/package/office/libical/libical.desc: 
09:49 < CIA-29> * merged r36785 from trunk to branches/8.0:
09:49 < CIA-29> changed libical build priority (150.000 -> 137.100)
09:50 < CIA-29> aldas * r36854 /branches/8.0/package/multimedia/live/live.desc: 
09:50 < CIA-29> * merged r36805 from trunk to branches/8.0:
09:50 < CIA-29> updated live (2010.06.18 -> 2010.07.13)
09:52 < CIA-29> aldas * r36855 /branches/8.0/package/graphic/libgphoto/libgphoto.desc: 
09:52 < CIA-29> * merged r36798 from trunk to branches/8.0:
09:52 < CIA-29> updated libgphoto (2.4.7 -> 2.4.9)
09:53 < CIA-29> aldas * r36856 /branches/8.0/package/graphic/gphoto/gphoto.desc: 
09:53 < CIA-29> * merged r36799 from trunk to branches/8.0:
09:53 < CIA-29> updated gphoto (2.4.5 -> 2.4.9)
09:57 < CIA-29> aldas * r36857 /branches/8.0/package/network/bind/bind.desc: 
09:57 < CIA-29> * merged r36795 from trunk to branches/8.0:
09:57 < CIA-29> updated bind (9.7.1-P1 -> 9.7.1-P2)
10:02 < CIA-29> aldas * r36858 /branches/8.0/package/kde/kvirc/kvirc.desc: 
10:02 < CIA-29> * merged r36819 from trunk to branches/8.0:
10:02 < CIA-29> updated kvirc (4.0rc3 -> 4.0.0)
10:02 < CIA-29> aldas * r36859 /trunk/package/www/seamonkey/seamonkey.desc: * updated seamonkey (2.0.5 -> 2.0.6)
10:02 < CIA-29> aldas * r36860 /trunk/package/gnome2/pidgin/pidgin.desc: * updated pidgin (2.7.1 -> 2.7.2)
10:02 < CIA-29> aldas * r36861 /trunk/package/mail/thunderbird/thunderbird.desc: * updated thunderbird (3.1 -> 3.1.1)
10:26 < CIA-29> aldas * r36862 /trunk/package/multimedia/vlc/ (vlc.conf vlc.desc): * updated vlc (1.0.6 -> 1.1.1)
10:35 < CIA-29> aldas * r36863 /branches/8.0/package/develop/swig/swig.desc: 
10:35 < CIA-29> * merged r36802 from trunk to branches/8.0:
10:35 < CIA-29> changed swig build priority (194.800 -> 184.800)
10:35 < CIA-29> aldas * r36864 /branches/8.0/package/develop/ptlib/ptlib.desc: 
10:35 < CIA-29> * merged r36803 from trunk to branches/8.0:
10:35 < CIA-29> updated ptlib (2.6.7 -> 2.8.1)
10:36 < CIA-29> aldas * r36865 /branches/8.0/package/network/opal/opal.desc: 
10:36 < CIA-29> * merged r36804 from trunk to branches/8.0:
10:36 < CIA-29> updated opal (3.6.8 -> 3.8.1)
10:36 < rxr> re
10:37 < CIA-29> rene * r36866 /trunk/package/python/psycopg2/psycopg2.desc: * updated psycopg2 (2.2.1 -> 2.2.2)
10:38 < CIA-29> rene * r36867 /trunk/package/games/clanlib/clanlib.desc: * updated clanlib (2.1.1 -> 2.1.2)
10:38 < Baldzius> hey rxr
10:38 < Baldzius> seems that package matrix not working again
10:39 < rxr> yes, I still did not put syncing in place
10:39 < rxr> I onlyupdated it once manually
10:39 < Baldzius> ok
10:39 < rxr> anything else?
10:39 < rxr> I transfered the t2 people world map and mirror multiplexer, though :-)
10:39 < Baldzius> it doesn't fetch new files automatically also?
10:40 < rxr> well, anything is hackable, ... which files?
10:40 < rxr> package matrix, download?
10:40 < Baldzius> some packages are missing for 8.0
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10:40 < rxr> in the matrixß
10:40 < Baldzius> ladspa-* and some others
10:40 < Baldzius> as sources
10:40 < rxr> you mean the mirror ?
10:41 < Baldzius> yes
10:41 < rxr> the syncing was still running
10:41 < rxr> but it run out of storage (disk) space in the night
10:41 < rxr> need to resize the VM, ...
10:43 < rxr> Baldzius: btw. yesterday I got sparc64 mostly on par
10:43 < rxr> really sad that jus this freaking boot loader does not build
10:43 < rxr> and I already tried to pin that down in 2 days of work or so some months ago :-(
10:45 < rxr> but I asked Aeroflex Gaisler if they may like to donate one of their shiny, new Mini-ITX sparc(32) development boards: http://www.gaisler.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=339&Itemid= - keeping my fingers crossed, have not yet heared back from them
10:46 < Baldzius> cool
10:48 < rxr> yep
10:48 < rxr> so, will take dl. down for a minute have to resize the filesystem :-)
10:52 < Baldzius> lemme know when it's up
11:03 < rogermason> Hello.  I have 8.0 installed on two machines from the iso.  Thanks rxr for pointing out how to deal with SATA.  I would now like to expand these machines into desktops.  Is it better to use Emerge-Pkg on each to install the required packages, or should I set up a config, build a target and then re-install from that target?
11:04 < Baldzius> you have minimal installed?
11:05 < Baldzius> myself I get everything with Emerge
11:05 < Baldzius> expect lots of deps crashes
11:06 < Baldzius> but it's good experience though
11:06 < Baldzius> so go ahead :)
11:06 < Baldzius> easier is to build desktop target
11:12 < rogermason> Yes, minimal.  Yesterday I tried to Emerge icecream but that pulled in Xorg, qt, kdelibs... (much of which crashed).  I want icecream in order to speed-up building these monster packages.  Is it possible (or recommended) to build a version of icecream without all the GUI dpendencies?  If so, what must I edit?
11:17 < Baldzius> check it's configure script
11:17 < Baldzius> this could be highly possible to disable all gui stuff
11:20 < CIA-29> aldas * r36868 /branches/8.0/package/network/iproute2/ (install-tc.patch iproute2.conf): 
11:20 < CIA-29> * merged r36783 and r36784 from trunk to branches/8.0:
11:20 < CIA-29> corrected some iproute2 installed file paths
11:20 < CIA-29> fixed iproute2 to install tc, ...
11:21 < rxr> rogermason: yes, emerge, I also just do that
11:21 < rxr> I already cleaned up the auto-tracked deps in the past and will continue to do so
11:21 < rxr> I hope we can get updates from minimal to kde/gnome smoother over the next days and weeks
11:30 < rxr> Baldzius: dl up agin
11:30 < rxr> again
11:30 < Baldzius> thanks
11:30 < rxr> but files still syncing
11:30 < rxr> will be for some more days
11:30 < rxr> all the old release mirrors and ISOs, ...
11:55 < CIA-29> rene * r36869 /trunk/package/multimedia/libnice/libnice.desc: * updated libnice (0.0.12 -> 0.0.13)
12:19 < CIA-29> rene * r36870 /trunk/package/xorg/libpciaccess/libpciaccess.desc: * updated libpciaccess (0.11.0 -> 0.12.0)
12:19 < CIA-29> rene * r36871 /trunk/package/develop/diffstat/diffstat.desc: * updated diffstat (1.52 -> 1.53)
12:49 < rogermason> I'm trying to build autoconf-2.66 in 8.0.  I ran svn up to get the patch that fixes the AC_CHECK_SIZEOF error that I ran into last week. However, autoconf will not build.
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13:07 < Baldzius> rogermason: do you have local changes for it?
13:07 < Baldzius> svn st
13:08 < rogermason> It just built.  Dunno what I did to make it work.  I assume the hot-fix patch was applied.
13:15 < Baldzius> strange, it should built with or without it
13:18 < rxr> re
13:19 < rxr> Baldzius: do you have the DONT_STAT_COMPILER ccache patch rediffed and dare to commit?
13:21 < Baldzius> cmake still doesn't hit ccache
13:21 < Baldzius> I can send you diff offline
13:21 < Baldzius> email for instance
13:22 < rxr> I could try if currently a cmake package hits ccache, ...
13:22 < rxr> which cmake package did you experience this?
13:23 < Baldzius> I think this applies to every single package using cmake
13:23 < rxr> example
13:24 < Baldzius> I think I tested on kdenetwork
13:24 < Baldzius> koffice also
13:25 < Baldzius> send email
13:27 < rogermason> Baldzius: yes, the hot fix was applied.  gnutls was formerly failing without that patch.
13:43 < rxr> wow, BP photosops worse then my amateur skills: http://www.americablog.com/2010/07/bp-photoshops-fake-photo-of-command.html
13:47 < Baldzius> lol :)
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13:48 < rxr> photoshop even
13:48 < rxr> -ETOO_HOT_TO_TYPE
13:52 < Baldzius> :)
13:55 < rxr> btw. a cool change to rsync would be a "transfer sorted by size option", so huge files do not stall the overall transfer so much, and most files (read the smaller ones) will be at the dest quicker, ...
13:58 < rxr> without the OOo, nexuiz, sauerbraten and flightgear files 98% of the files would probably be already on the mirror, ...
13:58 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/sauerbraten.html
13:59 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/nexuiz.html
13:59 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/flightgear-base.html
13:59 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/flightgear.html
13:59 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/openoffice-org.html
14:07 < Baldzius> :)
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14:50 < rogermason> Hello again.  I'm trying to build libprelude, which fails because of a missing perl file: make[5]: Entering directory `/root/t2-8.0/src.libprelude.SDE-CONFIG.20100721.090939.11629.gem/libprelude-0.9.24.1/$
14:50 < rogermason> Can't locate File/Glob.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.12.1/i686-t2-linux-gnu /usr/lib/perl5$.  How should I deal with this? (Sorry to keep bombarding you with questions).
15:28 < Baldzius> that is very strange
15:29 < Baldzius> you really get very strange build errors :)
15:29 < rogermason> Thanks :-)
15:30 < Baldzius> glob.pm as far as I remember is bundled in
15:30 < Baldzius> perl
15:30 < rogermason> Yes, I'm just reading about in on the net.  Bundled since perl 5.6.x.
15:30 < Baldzius> this error makes no sense
15:31 < Baldzius> something's fishy here
15:31 < Baldzius> are you running Emerge?
15:33 < rogermason> Yes: ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -cfg SDE-CONFIG libprelude
15:35 < Baldzius> grep -i glob.pm /var/adm/flist/perl
15:36 < rogermason> perl: usr/lib/perl5/5.12.1/File/DosGlob.pm
15:37 < Baldzius> hm
15:38 < Baldzius> why your INC path is different
15:39 < Baldzius> I can't test myself, my vm is down :/
15:39 < Baldzius> could you try to Emerge perl again
15:39 < Baldzius> I think you'll have to use --force
15:51 < Baldzius> oh
15:51 < Baldzius> that's dosglob
15:51 < Baldzius> you don't have File/Glob.pm
15:52 < Baldzius> how did you get your instalation build?
15:52 < Baldzius> build yourself?
16:10 < rogermason> I installed it from the iso.
16:18 < Baldzius> hm
16:18 < Baldzius> anyway
16:18 < rogermason> Rebuilding perl fixed the problem with libprelude.
16:18 < Baldzius> try reemerging perl
16:19 < Baldzius> super
16:19 < Baldzius> I guess this is cross compile issue
16:19 < Baldzius> skipping some modules
16:19 < rogermason> After I install from an iso, is there some other step I'm supposed to take to mek sure verything is "there"?
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16:33 < Baldzius> no
16:34 < Baldzius> basically there should be no problems with perl
16:34 < Baldzius> we will have to take a look at this
16:34 < Baldzius> rxr might be aware of this already
16:34 < Baldzius> I think there was something with 7.0
16:34 < Baldzius> this shouldn't happen if you get build for yourself (not cross)
16:35 < rxr> re
16:35 < Baldzius> going home
16:35 < Baldzius> later
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16:35 < rxr> yes, cross compiled perl can not build all modules :-(
16:35 < rxr> crufty code
16:36 < rxr> though I thought 8.0 shipped with the Glob module, did you install 8.0?
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17:30 < rogermason> rxr:Yes I installed 8.0.
17:42 < rxr> ok, I will keep an eye on the problem
17:46 < rogermason> Given that the released 8.0 was cross-compiled (for x86) would it be wise to rebuild everything and install on the host?  If so, is there a command that will do things in the correct sequence?
17:55 < rxr> nope
17:55 < rxr> normally it produces 100% the same result
17:55 < rxr> all embedded stuff runs rock solid cross compiled anyway, your AP, smartphone, etc.
17:55 < rxr> this is just spurious crappy packages (like perl and cracklib) having their issues
17:56 < rxr> but that  is no problem, just rebuild perl and it's fine
17:56 < rxr> this will improve in the long term in any case, ...
18:04 < rogermason> Many thanks.
18:10 < rogermason> If I may impose on your patience... I tried to build icecream yesterday (on my newly installed 8.0 system), but it pulled in loads of X windows related dependencies.  As I said to Baldzius this morning, having icecream depend on the kind of monster packages that it could help compile renders it less useful.  I'd like to figure out how to compile icecream in t2 without those dependencies.  Baldzius pointed me to icecream.conf and
18:10 < rogermason> suggested i should pass config options from there.  Unfortunately, the documentation on building icecream is severely lacking, so I've no idea how to turn off the GUI related features.  What happens if I take out the X related packages from icream.cache?
18:10 < rxr> the .cache will not help much
18:10 < rxr> you can try to buidl it without the deps in any case
18:11 < rxr> but if that works depends on the upstream icecream authors
18:11 < rxr> if it simply has the source code full with X/Qt stuff then this will not help at all
18:11 < rxr> our package may also be slightly dated, I remeber I once looked at an update, but there where so many un-nice changes that I remeber to once skip over an update, ...
18:11 < rxr> what are you so in icecream, doesn't distcc cut it for you?
18:13 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/distcc.html
18:14 < rogermason> I have used distcc in the past, but heard that icecream is easier to set up for cross compiling.  My machines are quite heterogeneous so I saw that as an advantage.  However, I have no direct experience with icecream.  Maybe I should revert to distcc as you suggest.
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18:16 < rxr> I only used distcc
18:16 < rxr> and icecream had some serve limitation back in some years when I wanted to use it with t2, ...
18:17 < rxr> yep, with just an older gcc this f*cking silo builds:
18:17 < rxr> == 16:15:38 =[1]=> Building sparc/silo [1.4.14_git 9.0-trunk].
18:17 < rxr> == 07/21/10 16:15:49 =[1]=> Finished building package silo.
18:30 < CIA-29> rene * r36872 /trunk/architecture/sparc64/package/ (. gcc/): 
18:30 < CIA-29> * added r34866 gcc (4.3.4) overlay for sparc64, as newer gcc (4.4, 4.5)
18:30 < CIA-29> do not produce binary objects compatibile with it's binary diffing
18:34 < CIA-29> rene * r36873 /trunk/package/base/freeipmi/freeipmi.desc: * updated freeipmi (0.8.5 -> 0.8.8)
18:34 < CIA-29> rene * r36874 /trunk/package/develop/roundup/roundup.desc: * updated roundup (1.4.14 -> 1.4.15)
18:35 < CIA-29> rene * r36875 /trunk/package/develop/viewvc/viewvc.desc: * updated viewvc (1.1.5 -> 1.1.6)
18:40 < CIA-29> rene * r36876 /trunk/package/kde/yakuake/yakuake.desc: * updated yakuake (2.9.6 -> 2.9.7)
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