T2 IRC Log: 2009-12-12

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--- Log opened Sat Dec 12 00:00:17 2009
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10:22 < CIA-65> aldas * r35083 /trunk/package/kde/k3b/k3b.desc: * updated k3b (1.68.0alpha3 -> 1.69.0alpha4)
10:56 -!- mpp [n=mpp@2a01:48:251:107:203:dff:fe13:6c9e] has joined #t2
10:56 < mpp> re
10:56 < mpp> so no joy even after rxr latest fixes
10:57 < mpp> anyone who can build from svn a x86_64 target on a x86_64 host 8.0 -rc2 ?
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13:27 < rxr> re
13:27 < rxr> mpp: what is the new eror ?
13:37 < mpp> util-linux i think
13:37 < mpp> i'll paste it here in a moment
13:41 < mpp> Copying file m4/xsize.m4
13:41 < mpp> Copying file po/Makevars.template
13:41 < mpp> Can't locate File/Glob.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /root/trunk/build/default-8.0-trunk-generic-x86-64-linux/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/usr/share/automake-1.10 /usr/lib64/perl5/5.10.1/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu /usr/lib64/perl5/5.10.1 /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib64/perl5/site_perl /opt/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.1/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu /opt/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.1 /opt/lib64/perl5/vendo
13:41 < mpp> r_perl .) at /root/trunk/build/default-8.0-trunk-generic-x86-64-linux/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/bin/aclocal line 1034.
13:41 < mpp> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /root/trunk/build/default-8.0-trunk-generic-x86-64-linux/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/bin/aclocal line 1034.
13:41 < mpp> Due to previous errors, no 1-util-linux.log file!
13:41 < rxr> that is in the -rc2 install?
13:42 < rxr> if so just re-emerge perl into the build host
13:42 < mpp> yes
13:42 < rxr> in the 8.0-rc* perl is incomplele or missing
13:42 < mpp> i'll do
13:42 < rxr> I have to fix this cross build issue with perl :-(
13:42 < rxr> just Emerge-Pkg -deps=none -force perl # ...
13:42 < mpp> building yep
13:43 < mpp> we should rename linux to minesweeper-os :-) LOL
13:44 < mpp> the t2 installe also not working ... but that is lower prio to me
13:49 < rxr> what do you mean with t2 installs also not working ?
13:51 < mpp> the stone installer does not chroot after package installation and simply reboots...
13:51 < mpp> strange thing ..
13:51 < rxr> hm - worked here
13:51 < rxr> my iso or your own build ?
13:52 < mpp> your's - from the dl site
14:01 < rxr> strange I installed them so often in testing, ...
14:15 < mpp> building fine so far
14:15 < mpp> should take a bit on the phenom x4
14:15 < mpp> :-) LOL
14:16 < rxr> which model, GHz ?
14:16 < mpp> ahm ..
14:16 < mpp> AMD Phenom(tm) 9850 Quad-Core Processor
14:16 < mpp> 2,5Ghz
14:17 < mpp> i wiped the ccache dirs also to be sure
14:17 < mpp> so it'll take 1-2 hours
14:17 < mpp> #== 13:12:49 =[1]=> Building base/glibc32 [2.11 8.0-trunk].
14:18 < mpp> personally i am very satisfied with the performance / cost ratio of amd
14:19 < rxr> yeah
14:19 < rxr> especially SVM performance is superb
14:19 < mpp> yep !
14:20 < mpp> some of our customers do user hp proliant dl585g5 for virtualization
14:21 < mpp> they can handle 4 quadcore cpu's and 256Gig RAM
14:21 < mpp> they have decent power to offer
14:24 < mpp> build process looking flawless so far
14:24 < mpp> #== 13:24:08 =[1]=> Building base/binutils [2.20.51.0.3 8.0-trunk].
14:35 < CIA-65> mika * r35084 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-doc-utils/gnome-doc-utils.desc: * update gnome-doc-utils (0.18.0 -> 0.18.1)
14:41 < mpp> vt and svm -> http://communities.vmware.com/message/432916
14:41 < mpp> nice one
14:43 < CIA-65> mika * r35085 /trunk/package/x11/wxwidgets/strconv.patch: * fixed preprocessor error on wxwidgets (tested on x64)
14:44 < CIA-65> mika * r35086 /trunk/package/security/cyrus-sasl2/cyrus-sasl-2.1.22-gcc44.patch: * gcc 4.4.x patch for cyrus-sasl
14:45 [Users #t2]
14:45 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-65] [ mjungwirth] [ mqueiros_] [ rxr ] [ synchris_]
14:45 [ aloof ] [ koan ] [ mpp ] [ mtr ] [ Stealth] [ TobiX ]
14:45 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
14:45 < rxr> nice
14:59 < mpp> http://imagebin.ca/view/uaZMUqq.html
14:59 < mpp> still doing good with the build process.. i admit i never got that far the last 2 months...
15:00 < rxr> yeah, what I can reproduce I can fix (tm) :-)
15:00 < rxr> t2/trunk all time time looked very good from my angle
15:00 < mpp> i know - no offence
15:00 < rxr> which is why I finally set off to get 8.0-final tagged
15:00 < mpp> yes it does when it is incrementally updated
15:00 < mpp> but i do regular cleann slate building
15:00 < rxr> the new "all cross build" stuff (while still some minor stuff needs to be polished) reduced build time a lot
15:01 < mpp> agreed
15:01 < rxr> instead fo building sparc on a dead old machine, and PPC on a medium fast dual-core at 2GHz I build all on some 8core 8gig RAM VMs, ...
15:01 < mpp> i thought it was more a personal feeling that building now runs faster
15:02 < rxr> this all cross stuff also gets me to finally polish some rough edges of the cross build stuff and thus hopefully attracts more embedded folks
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15:02 < rxr> mpp: the plan is to fully automate weekly ISO builds, and auto-publish successful builds :-)
15:02 < mpp> i was gonna say the same over here
15:03 < mpp> if my custom build env target works
15:03 < mpp> then we are good to go to have more automated builds from scratch
15:03 < mpp> at leas on my side :-)
15:04 < mpp> stage 2 looking good..
15:29 < rxr> yay, another shopstopper bug nailed
15:29 < CIA-65> rene * r35087 /trunk/package/perl/perl/perl.conf:
15:29 < CIA-65> * reverted r22426, evilly hacking perl - just falling back to some
15:29 < CIA-65> arbitrary 32bit build is no solution and actual the cause why most
15:29 < CIA-65> 8.0-rc ISOs are missing perl: the 32bit binary is not flist tracked
15:29 < CIA-65> thru our default shard-library flist wrapper, ... !!!
15:29 < rxr> looking at the crufty code from others spotted in the final 8.0 review I guess I should fall back to reviewing each third party commit more carefully again ...
15:34 < mpp> sorry to hear that
15:34 < mpp> honestly
15:34 < rxr> cool: http://cgi.ebay.de/SGI-Silicon-Graphics-O2-R5K-300-384MB-36GB-CD-StudioO2_W0QQitemZ150395495571QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Servers?hash=item2304452493#ht_3354wt_1110
15:35 < rxr> one of the seldom non R10k MIPSs
15:35 < rxr> r10k has problems under Linux , ...
15:35 * rxr wondering if I can resist ...
15:35 < rxr> the octane is so loud, now on my parrents attic ...
15:36 < rxr> guess the O2 is some magnitutes less noisy :-)
15:36 < mpp> what's the deal with this piece ?
15:36 < rxr> sgi, MIPS64
15:36 < mpp> looks old school to me
15:36 < rxr> it's Art
15:36 < rxr> like the Apple G4 cube :-)
15:36 < mpp> i see
15:37 < mpp> well then - go for it
15:37 < mpp> #== 14:33:08 =[3]=> Building develop/ppl [0.10.2 8.0-trunk].
15:37 < rxr> wish I coudl somehow solder and USB 2 controller into my G4 cube
15:37 < mpp> gee - i might actually get a sane build today - thanx rxr !
15:37 < rxr> the lack of USB 2 is the only thing that is not so great about my cube
15:37 < mpp> tell me about it
15:37 < mpp> 1.1 sucks
15:37 < rxr> it's already heavily "tuned", 1.2 GHz CPU upgrade, ATi Radeon GFX
15:37 < mpp> it is just way toooooooo lameeeee
15:39 < rxr> yeah - storage wise I can live with firewire, but for general peripherals USB1 sucks a little
15:40 < mpp> do i need to emerge your latest perl commit to my running build ?
15:40 < rxr> nope
15:40 < mpp> k cool
15:40 < rxr> you fixed it already by emerging it
15:40 < mpp> :-) thumbs up
15:40 < rxr> this fix is just so that the next ISOs come with the cross build perl files in the ISO
15:40 < mpp> !
15:41 < mpp> if we could get distcc upgraded and running again for t2 build
15:41 < mpp> we could spread the load for automated iso builds
15:41 < mpp> it's worth a thougt !
15:41 < rxr> ah - finally, a comic with the sgi o2 in: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080502
15:42 < rxr> you know userfiendly, do you?
15:42 < mpp> LOL
15:42 < mpp> yes great shit over there !
15:43 < mpp> out of cheese error - reboot universe ....
15:45 < mpp> k have a nice we everybody - see you around !
15:46 -!- mpp [n=mpp@2a01:48:251:107:203:dff:fe13:6c9e] has quit ["good night - good fight"]
15:53 < rxr> http://www.exactcode.de/store/productlist/?tx_commerce_pi1%5BshowUid%5D=28&tx_commerce_pi1%5BcatUid%5D=5&cHash=954bfac288
16:48 < CIA-65> rene * r35088 /trunk/architecture/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
16:48 < CIA-65> * factored out common x86, x86-64 Linux kernel config into a shared file
16:48 < CIA-65> * enable most important ACPI options by default
17:04 < rxr> I need some more cores here load average: 16.39, 19.84, 18.00
17:05 < rxr> and best non-Intel ones :-)
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17:26 < CIA-65> rene * r35089 /trunk/package/shells/bash/bash.conf:
17:26 < CIA-65> * fix cross-compiled bash to include job control, yay
17:26 < CIA-65> * minimal (2 lines) white space fixup along the lines
17:27 < rxr> don't ya think - it's time
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17:31 < mpp> building is @ stage 5
17:31 < mpp> :-)
18:01 < rxr> :-)
18:02 < rxr> in the meantime I worked on the other "all-cross", and other showstoppers as you can see above :-)
18:03 < mpp> okay
18:03 < mpp> almost flawless
18:03 < mpp> 00-minimal needs tcl for sqlite3 + svn
18:03 < mpp> cdrkit fails
18:03 < mpp> besides that everything runs smooth so far
18:03 < mpp> installing now
18:04 < rxr> ok - sqlite should be further fixed not to require tcl, ...
18:05 < mpp> installer working now
18:05 < mpp> stone that is from the cd
18:08 < rxr> http://t2-project.org/packages/glusterfs.html
18:10 < mpp> what about it ?
18:10 < rxr> nothing :_)
18:10 < mpp> installation fails on boot
18:10 < mpp> thinks it is an ext4 ....
18:11 < rxr> when I review stuff for my own interest while waiting for test builds to complete I sometimes find good not really knowing about some parts of the T2 package matrix
18:11 < mpp> ah...
18:11 < mpp> i see
18:11 < rxr> so I occasionally post t2 website links here so that google knows it a little better :-)
18:11 < mpp> k
18:11 < CIA-65> rene * r35090 /trunk/package/base/cracklib/cracklib.desc: * changed cracklib build priority (178.600 -> 129.000) to build before pam (in cross builds)
18:12 < mpp> yea ssh login yels that one
18:12 < mpp> no pam_cracklib.so found
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18:12 < rxr> yeah - current 8.0-rc* issues are nearlly all "all-cross" related
18:12 < rxr> well, and the missing perl files was a spuid one, preventing the default shared-object flist tracer to pickup the files, ieeek
18:13 < digitaloktay> hi people
18:13 < rxr> hi digitaloktay, LMJ
18:13 < digitaloktay> hi rxr
18:17 < mpp> k
18:17 < mpp> working now
18:17 < mpp> i'll rebuild my custom build target and report back tomorrow or monday ..
18:17 < mpp> greetz fly out to berlin
18:17 < mpp> ...
18:17 -!- mpp [n=mpp@2a01:48:251:107:203:dff:fe13:6c9e] has quit ["good night - good fight"]
18:18 < digitaloktay> hmm Berlin
18:21 < rxr> yeha ?
18:21 < rxr> ah :-)
18:34 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/cracklib.html
18:40 < CIA-65> rene * r35091 /trunk/package/base/cracklib/cracklib.desc: * updated cracklib (2.8.13 -> 2.8.14)
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18:45 < Baldzius> moin
18:45 < rxr> hi Baldzius
18:45 < Baldzius> hey rxr
18:45 < Baldzius> ppl fails for me on stage 0
18:46 < rxr> x86 ?
18:46 < rxr> 32bit?
18:46 < Baldzius> sec
18:46 < Baldzius> yes
18:46 < Baldzius> sais can't find gmp
18:47 < rxr> yeah when you look into it's config.log you'll probably find that __sync_and_add_4 whatever
18:47 < Baldzius> and am doing svn up and restarting the build
18:47 < rxr> your system gcc probably defaulting to i386 optimiaztion
18:47 < Baldzius> removed logs :/
18:47 < rxr> I know fixed the trunk gcc to default to the same optimization as used in the t2 build, ...
18:47 < rxr> you could update your system gcc if you want to fix it ,...
18:48 < rxr> I'm still thinking if we need an workaround in the package, or if we can get away by telling people to update they system gcc :-)
18:48 < Baldzius> oh, ic
18:48 < Baldzius> is it safe?
18:48 < Baldzius> don't want to mess up my system
18:48 < rxr> minor version usually yes
18:48 < rxr> major version so lala (though it usually worked for me in the last years :-)
18:48 < Baldzius> I have 4.3.2
18:49 < rxr> ouh
18:49 < rxr> yeah, well, ...
18:49 < Baldzius> not a big issue
18:49 < Baldzius> at least I know what's wrong
18:49 < rxr> ok - let's add a real workaround for that then, stuff should just work, epspecially when building t2 on t2 :-)
18:50 < Baldzius> that would be nice
18:59 < Baldzius> configure:17017: error: Cannot find GMP version 4.1.3 or higher.
18:59 < Baldzius> GMP is the GNU Multi-Precision library:
18:59 < Baldzius> see http://www.swox.com/gmp/ for more information.
18:59 < Baldzius> When compiling the GMP library, do not forget to enable the C++ interface:
18:59 < Baldzius> add --enable-cxx to the configuration options.
18:59 < rxr> yeah the reall error (is as usual) in the config.log
18:59 < rxr> I bet it's undefined ref to __sync_and_add_4 whatever
19:01 < Baldzius> hm
19:01 < rxr> yeah?
19:01 < Baldzius> conftest.cpp:(.text+0x8c4): undefined reference to `__sync_fetch_and_add_4'
19:02 < rxr> yeah
19:02 < Baldzius> ok that's fine
19:02 < rxr> mtr had an workaround for this, but it was not proper, and broke nearly all other architectures
19:02 < rxr> when building T2:HEAD on T2:HEAD it's fixed, now
19:02 < rxr> i'll add a propper workaround for it later today
19:04 < Baldzius> we need cache files updated before branching
19:04 < Baldzius> they are pretty outdated
19:04 < CIA-65> rene * r35092 /trunk/package/audio/faac/fix.patch:
19:04 < CIA-65> Gerardo Di Iorio :
19:04 < CIA-65> * fixed flac for latest gcc/glibc
19:04 < rxr> Baldzius: please do not monster update them all
19:04 < rxr> Baldzius: thats more evil, usually broken than gradual updates
19:05 < rxr> Baldzius: actually for the cache files what matters is that they help Emerging packages
19:05 < rxr> if they have too many invalid deps they rather harm emerging
19:05 < rxr> which is why I usually update them when I see Emerge failing, doing strange stuff
19:06 < Baldzius> no, I only had thoughts out loud :)
19:06 < rxr> yeah, in general update is good
19:06 < rxr> but with the .cache it can go wrong easily
19:07 < CIA-65> rene * r35093 /trunk/package/multimedia/ffmpeg/ffmpeg.desc:
19:07 < CIA-65> Gerardo Di Iorio :
19:07 < CIA-65> * updated ffmpeg (2009-02-01 -> 0.5)
19:08 < Baldzius> ffmpeg update can be dangerous
19:08 < CIA-65> rene * r35094 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvgrab/dvgrab.desc:
19:08 < CIA-65> Gerardo Di Iorio :
19:08 < CIA-65> * updated dvgrab (3.4 -> 3.5)
19:08 < rxr> yeah, I hope he did test it :-)
19:08 < Baldzius> :)
19:08 < rxr> will start a full rebuild soon
19:08 < rxr> (and trunk has some broken packages due gcc-4.4, ... anyway)
19:10 < CIA-65> rene * r35095 /trunk/package/base/hal/hal.conf: * updated hal configure options and add udec path
19:15 < CIA-65> rene * r35096 /trunk/package/audio/taglib/ (taglib-1.5rc1-multilib.patch taglib-1.6.1-20091103.patch):
19:15 < CIA-65> Gerardo Di Iorio :
19:15 < CIA-65> * fixed taglib for multilib (libdir != .../lib) and fixed some more bugs
19:18 < CIA-65> rene * r35097 /trunk/package/network/cherokee/cherokee.desc: * updated cherokee (0.99.32 -> 0.99.33)
19:18 < CIA-65> rene * r35099 /trunk/package/security/libgcrypt/libgcrypt.desc: * updated libgcrypt (1.4.4 -> 1.4.5)
19:18 < CIA-65> rene * r35098 /trunk/package/network/newsbeuter/newsbeuter.desc: * updated newsbeuter (2.0 -> 2.1)
19:19 < rxr> Baldzius: ok - gotta go home, I already left susan waiting, ...
19:19 < rxr> Baldzius: will add the ppl related host-system-compiler-optimization-workaround after dinner :-)
19:22 < rxr> cu
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19:23 < MattCampbell> I think the topic needs to be updated, since 8.0-rc2 is out now.
19:25 < rxr> yeah
19:25 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 SDE | 7.0-rc released! | trunk heading for 8.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org
19:25 -!- Topic set by H4X [] [Tue Jun 26 17:57:25 2007]
19:26 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 SDE | 7.0-rc released! | trunk heading for 8.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) |
19:26 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 SDE | 8.0-rc2 released! | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/
19:27 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 SDE | 8.0-rc2 released! | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
19:27 < rxr> cya
19:41 < MattCampbell> Why isn't GCC's Stack Smashing Protection enabled by default in the generic target in 8.0?
19:54 -!- MattCampbell [n=matt@ppp-70-130-40-216.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net] has quit ["should really get on the mailing list"]
19:58 < CIA-65> aldas * r35101 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/sysfiles.conf: * create /etc/crypttab in sysfiles for proper cryptsetup support
19:58 < CIA-65> aldas * r35100 /trunk/package/security/cryptsetup/cryptsetup.desc: * updated cryptsetup (1.1.0-rc2 -> 1.1.0-rc3)
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20:56 < rxr> love'm it when people disasspear after asing a questino ,...
20:58 < Baldzius> :)
21:03 < Baldzius> rxr: btw have you already started re build you were talking couple of hours ago
21:04 < Baldzius> there is security issue with coreutils
21:04 < Baldzius> we need updating it to ver 8.2
21:04 < rxr> you mean re == release?
21:04 < Baldzius> ref
21:04 < rxr> ah - ref
21:04 < rxr> no did not
21:05 < rxr> am about to trackle the i386 ppl issue you encounter
21:05 < rxr> regarding coreutils, I'm afraid the new versino might not cross compile out of the box
21:05 < Baldzius> ok, after that I might try look at coreutils myself
21:05 < rxr> at least the last uncommited update still fails when cross buildign with unresolved symbols
21:05 < Baldzius> I remeber Ihad some starnge issues with 9.1
21:06 < Baldzius> sorry 8.1
21:06 < rxr> don't knwo that issue that was
21:06 < rxr> for me it fails with unresolved symbols when cross-built
21:06 < Baldzius> 8.1?
21:07 < rxr> I check
21:07 < rxr> yes 8.1
21:09 < rxr> would be great if you could check that 8.2 update
21:10 < Baldzius> sure, just let me know when ppl fix is ready
21:11 < rxr> 8.1 error:
21:11 < rxr> !> ../lib/libcoreutils.a(gethrxtime.o): In function `gethrxtime':
21:11 < rxr> !> gethrxtime.c:(.text+0x16): undefined reference to `clock_gettime'
21:11 < rxr> !> ../lib/libcoreutils.a(gettime.o): In function `gettime':
21:11 < rxr> !> gettime.c:(.text+0x16): undefined reference to `clock_gettime'
21:11 < rxr> though me might just fill the .cache appropriately .-)
21:12 < Baldzius> I think I had same error
21:15 < rxr> just checked same for 8.2
21:34 < Baldzius> try injecting "-lrt"
21:45 < rxr> you or me ?
21:51 < Baldzius> I am stuck here with wine
21:51 < Baldzius> trying to get adobe suite cs3 running :)
21:51 < rxr> :-)
21:51 < Baldzius> so we could get away from crappy win*
21:51 < rxr> we ?
21:52 < rxr> at work ?
21:52 < Baldzius> at home
21:52 < Baldzius> my GF she needs it
21:52 < Baldzius> so we can get rid of win
21:52 < Baldzius> I've installed her win 7
21:53 < Baldzius> but it still looks ugly on lcd
21:54 < rxr> what looks ugly ?
21:55 < Baldzius> they way it renders fonts
21:55 < Baldzius> looks strange can't explain it
21:55 < rxr> oh
21:55 < Baldzius> ubuntu is fine though
21:56 < Baldzius> even on my sister's cheap laptop
21:56 < Baldzius> and I could look at screen when there was win xp running before
21:56 < Baldzius> couldn't *
21:57 < Baldzius> win 7 overall is not so bad, migh be the same like old *glorious* win xp
21:57 < Baldzius> but it again suffers with drivers support
21:57 < Baldzius> don't se much of things out of box
21:58 < Baldzius> when I have no problems using linux with any of computer at my home
21:58 < Baldzius> everything works out of box
21:58 < Baldzius> so win7 is 2-3 years behind ubuntu 9.10
22:00 < Baldzius> I see no advantages of using Win, only my GF she's forced to use it because of Adobe
22:00 < Baldzius> for studies
22:00 < rxr> can imagine
22:01 < Baldzius> she's fine with gimp/inkscape/scribus but can't use them
22:11 < Baldzius> 8.2 builds fine here
22:11 < Baldzius> can't test cross build
22:11 < Baldzius> should I commit?
22:11 < rxr> well, every standard t2 build is cross build in stage 1
22:12 < rxr> it only fails in stage 1 for me, stage 5 builds
22:12 < Baldzius> oh
22:12 < Baldzius> I thought it fails for stage 5 also
22:12 < rxr> no only 1, ...
22:12 < Baldzius> ic
22:13 < Baldzius> btw , you can branch 8.0 anytime you think it's ready
22:14 < rxr> I wanted to branch when it's really ready
22:14 < Baldzius> I have no *todo* left
22:14 < rxr> to avoid endless merging ...
22:14 < rxr> well, I have smoe :-)
22:15 < Baldzius> I know, mostly I wanted linux 2.6.32
22:15 < Baldzius> in
22:15 < rxr> including fixes cracklib to cross-compile the binary dictinoary file so that our now all-cross-built isos can set user passwords :-)
22:15 < rxr> and then cross compiling the glibc locale and tiemzone files somehow
22:15 < rxr> that are the only major things
22:15 < rxr> then comes only "nice to have polishing"
22:16 < rxr> oh, one more major^666 thing, namely getting silo to build with gcc-4.4
22:17 < Baldzius> next -rc could be announced more broadly (e.g on DW) to get a wider testing spin
22:17 < Baldzius> don't you think?
22:22 < rxr> well, at least cracklib dicts need to be in place then :-)
22:22 < rxr> but yes, I hope we only need to need one more -rc if any
22:27 < CIA-65> aldas * r35102 /trunk/package/network/dhcp/dhcp.desc: * updated dhcp (4.1.1b3 -> 4.1.1rc1)
22:27 < Baldzius> ok, going to bed, internet connection is crappy today
22:27 < Baldzius> anyway
22:28 < Baldzius> cya :)
22:28 -!- Baldzius [n=aldas@89.124.241.36] has quit ["Leaving"]
22:28 < CIA-65> rene * r35103 /trunk/package/base/gcc/parse-config: * work around last years T2 systems's that do default to i386
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