T2 IRC Log: 2009-10-26

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--- Log opened Mon Oct 26 00:00:17 2009
08:56 < CIA-38> aldas * r34686 /trunk/misc/share/PKG-CATEGORIES: * added new extra/desktop/lxde category
08:57 < CIA-38> aldas * r34687 /trunk/package/lxde/ (8 files in 2 dirs): * added lxde-common (0.4.2) - A set of default configuration for LXDE
09:03 < CIA-38> aldas * r34688 /trunk/package/lxde/menu-cache/ (. menu-cache.cache menu-cache.desc): * added menu-cache (0.2.5) - A library creating and utilizing caches to speed up the defined application menus
09:04 < CIA-38> aldas * r34689 /trunk/package/lxde/lxmenu-data/ (. lxmenu-data.cache lxmenu-data.desc): * added lxmenu-data (0.1.1) - A spec-compliant desktop menus for LXDE
09:05 < CIA-38> aldas * r34690 /trunk/package/lxde/lxsession/ (. lxsession.cache lxsession.desc): * added lxsession (0.3.8) - Default session manager of LXDE
09:05 < CIA-38> aldas * r34691 /trunk/package/lxde/lxpanel/ (. lxpanel.cache lxpanel.desc): * added lxpanel (0.5.3) - A lightweight X11 desktop panel
09:13 < CIA-38> aldas * r34692 /trunk/package/security/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * cryptsetup-luks has been renamed to cryptsetup, updated versions (1.0.4 -> 1.1.0-rc2)
09:20 < rxr> moin moin
09:31 < CIA-38> aldas * r34693 /trunk/package/lxde/lxappearance/ (. lxappearance.cache lxappearance.desc): * added lxappearance (0.2.1) - A desktop-independent theme switcher for GTK+
09:36 < CIA-38> aldas * r34694 /trunk/package/lxde/lxtask/ (. lxtask.cache lxtask.desc): * added lxtask (0.1.1) - Lightweight and desktop-independent task manager
09:42 < CIA-38> aldas * r34695 /trunk/package/lxde/lxterminal/ (. lxterminal.cache lxterminal.desc): * added lxterminal (0.1.6) - A VTE-based terminal emulator with support for multiple tabs
09:57 < CIA-38> rene * r34696 /trunk/package/security/opensc/opensc.desc: * updated opensc (0.11.9 -> 0.11.10)
09:57 < CIA-38> rene * r34697 /trunk/package/perl/perl-html-parser/perl-html-parser.desc: * updated perl-html-parser (3.62 -> 3.64)
09:58 < CIA-38> rene * r34698 /trunk/package/network/lighttpd/lighttpd.desc: * updated lighttpd (1.4.23 -> 1.4.24)
09:59 < CIA-38> rene * r34699 /trunk/package/shells/bash/bash.desc: * updated bash (4.0-33 -> 4.0-35)
10:20 < CIA-38> rene * r34700 /trunk/package/perl/perl-carp-clan/perl-carp-clan.desc: * updated perl-carp-clan (6.03 -> 6.04)
10:20 < CIA-38> rene * r34701 /trunk/package/gnome2/brasero/brasero.desc: * updated brasero (2.28.1 -> 2.28.2)
10:21 < CIA-38> rene * r34702 /trunk/package/emulators/wine/wine.desc: * updated wine (1.1.31 -> 1.1.32)
10:26 < CIA-38> rene * r34703 /trunk/package/archiver/lbzip2/lbzip2.desc: * updated lbzip2 (0.16rc1 -> 0.16)
10:26 < CIA-38> rene * r34704 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-forms/gnue-forms.desc: * updated gnue-forms (0.6.1 -> 0.6.2)
10:38 < CIA-38> aldas * r34705 /trunk/package/lxde/lxrandr/ (. lxrandr.cache lxrandr.desc): * added lxrandr (0.1.1) - XRandR GUI tools
11:03 < CIA-38> rene * r34706 /trunk/scripts/Download:
11:03 < CIA-38> * made the svn:// Download parser magnitudes more robust (it was a
11:03 < CIA-38> Url trial'n error jungle before, oh my)
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11:14 < CIA-38> rene * r34707 /trunk/package/develop/llvm/ (4 files):
11:14 < CIA-38> * resurrected clang support in llvm (I simply overlooked it in the
11:14 < CIA-38> first run as the llvm 2.6 release announcement made me think it's
11:14 < CIA-38> included in the default release, now)
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11:18 < Baldzius> moin
11:18 < rxr> hi Baldzius
11:19 < Baldzius> hi rxr
11:19 < rxr> Baldzius: nice commits
11:19 < Baldzius> thanks, spent all evening yesterday :)
11:19 < Baldzius> that lxde looks nice
11:19 < Baldzius> I might try it
11:20 < rxr> :-)
11:20 < Baldzius> I am looking at your 34706 commit
11:20 < Baldzius> there's actually something's wrong with git implementation
11:20 < Baldzius> I have patch here for some time
11:20 < Baldzius> can paste it here
11:22 < Baldzius> Index: scripts/Download
11:22 < Baldzius> ===================================================================
11:22 < Baldzius> --- scripts/Download (revision 34707)
11:22 < Baldzius> +++ scripts/Download (working copy)
11:22 < Baldzius> @@ -686,7 +686,7 @@
11:22 < Baldzius>
11:22 < Baldzius> module="${url##*/}"
11:22 < Baldzius> cmdline="git clone $url $module"
11:22 < Baldzius> - options="${options#* }"
11:22 < Baldzius> + options="${options//${module}/ }"
11:22 < Baldzius> [ -n $options ] && cmdpp="(cd $module; git checkout $options)"
11:22 < Baldzius> ;;
11:22 < Baldzius> *)
11:22 < Baldzius> in options it gets as $module name
11:22 < Baldzius> so it tries to check *itself* again
11:22 < Baldzius> even though it works fine, just throws erorrs
11:23 < Baldzius> or it needs to be rewritten like with _svn_
11:33 < CIA-38> aldas * r34708 /trunk/package/filesystem/disktype/disktype.desc: * updated disktype (9 -> 10_cvs20091020), adds support for ext4 and btrfs
11:42 < rxr> sorry phone
11:42 < rxr> can take a look
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11:42 < Baldzius> no problem
11:43 < csiadmin> morning all
11:44 < Baldzius> hi csiadmin
11:44 < csiadmin> hey Baldzius I hope you are well
11:47 < Baldzius> I am fine, thank you :)
11:47 < Baldzius> how are you?
11:48 < csiadmin> I'm well thx. I've spent the last 3 week trying to get our admin to open up irc ports again...
11:49 < Baldzius> you are admin, no? :)
11:50 < csiadmin> I'm admin in Belfast but our parent in Ottawa looks after firewall - he broke irc after a recent "upgrade"
11:51 < csiadmin> ...then spent the next 2 weeks telling me it was my fault!
11:51 < Baldzius> lovely :)
11:51 < Baldzius> and least he didn't leave ports open like it was in my case
11:52 < Baldzius> and my internal samba server was hacked instantly
11:53 < csiadmin> oh nightmare, lose any work?
11:53 < Baldzius> no, I quit :)
11:53 < Baldzius> that was the last drop for me
11:54 < csiadmin> :)
11:56 < rxr> so, re
12:04 < rxr> bash is also not behaving perfeclty when cross build as in the lat -rc
12:04 < rxr> will adapt the bach config.cache accordingly, and then also fix this pam/cracklib glitch while cross building
12:05 < rxr> and we should have the -rc2, including sparc64 support and improved ppc* support as done in the meantime
12:06 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/disktype.html
12:08 < rxr> Baldzius: which package did you spot the git issue with? so that I can test for review
12:08 < Baldzius> any
12:08 < rxr> oh
12:08 < Baldzius> which uses git
12:08 < Baldzius> there are couple
12:08 < rxr> (actually I'm not that in git, try to avoid it)
12:09 < Baldzius> xf86-video-nouveau
12:09 < Baldzius> I think I was checking on this package
12:09 < Baldzius> but there are couple more
12:10 < Baldzius> and it was the same
12:10 < Baldzius> the patch makes checkout clean
12:10 < Baldzius> can't say if it's perfect
12:11 < rxr> I'll review
12:11 < Baldzius> but it's very unusual that git will use module name in the options
12:11 < Baldzius> it's not like cvs
12:11 < Baldzius> or svn
12:11 < Baldzius> I'd say
12:23 < CIA-38> aldas * r34709 /trunk/package/network/openobex/ (openobex.cache openobex.desc): * updated openobex (1.3 -> 1.5)
12:29 < rxr> Baldzius: you mean this error: pathspec 'xf86-video-nouveau' did not match any file(s) known to git.
12:29 < CIA-38> aldas * r34710 /trunk/package/network/ (10 files in 3 dirs):
12:29 < CIA-38> * updated bluez (3.36 -> 4.56)
12:29 < CIA-38> * droped bluez-libs and bluez-utils as they were merged into bluez
12:29 < Baldzius> rxr: yes
12:29 < Baldzius> it's not an error, it's more like warning
12:29 < Baldzius> as it tries to checkout itself again
12:34 < CIA-38> aldas * r34711 /trunk/package/network/bluez-utils/: * deleted bluez-utils following r34710 update
12:42 < rxr> oh, we don't have so many git checkouts?
12:42 < rxr> 9 or so?
12:42 < rxr> maybe just 8 in trunk
12:43 < rxr> Baldzius: I think we should remove the extra path from the 5 or so package that have it
12:43 < rxr> I think this is just accidently misuse from early git checkout days
12:43 < rxr> and leave room for create extension of the git:// url scheme if we need it
12:44 < Baldzius> sounds good
12:44 < rxr> I'll do
12:48 < Baldzius> super
12:49 < CIA-38> rene * r34712 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-nouveau/xf86-video-nouveau.desc: * removed extra path spec from xf86-video-nouveau git:// checkout
12:50 < CIA-38> rene * r34713 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-ps3/xf86-video-ps3.desc: * removed extra path spec from xf86-video-ps3 git:// checkout
12:52 < CIA-38> rene * r34714 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-avivo/: * removed obsolete xf86-video-avivo
13:21 < CIA-38> aldas * r34715 /trunk/package/network/obexd/ (. obexd.cache obexd.desc): * added obexd (0.18) - OBEX Server and Client
13:22 < rxr> Baldzius: have you done anthin with aufs ?
13:23 < Baldzius> runtime?
13:23 < rxr> no, fix the broken version 1 in trunk to the new v2 from gheir git?
13:23 < rxr> their git even ...
13:24 < Baldzius> no, haven't touched it at all
13:24 < rxr> ok, good
13:24 < rxr> just for workload savings :-)
13:24 < Baldzius> :)
13:24 < Baldzius> i'll add couple more new packages
13:24 < rxr> will propably commit an non-compiling uptate then, because I losse my time window here and did the figuring out which alien git locations to use know
13:25 < Baldzius> and will work on cryptsetup implementation
13:25 < Baldzius> as I need to encrypt my home dir for work
13:25 < rxr> oh, nice :-)
13:25 < Baldzius> I'll drop some info on ML when done
13:25 < rxr> I'll focus on preparing trunk for 8.0
13:26 < rxr> that is polishing out the cross build defects :-)
13:26 < rxr> like pam and bash
13:26 < rxr> and then we can have weekly all-cross-build isos and focus on other work :-)
13:26 < Baldzius> there are 2 things before branching 8
13:26 < Baldzius> udev 146
13:26 < Baldzius> would be nice as it required fo couple of trunk packages now
13:26 < Baldzius> and orbit2 on stage 0
13:26 < rxr> sparc and ppc support already wastly enhanced while reviewing the first 8.0-rc result
13:27 < rxr> ok - I'll keep that in mind
13:27 < rxr> will spin an -rc2 before that, hopefully before end of this week
13:27 < Baldzius> and the patch for install script to support usb devices
13:27 < Baldzius> I can drop patch on ML
13:27 < rxr> yeah!
13:27 < rxr> livecd groks this already
13:27 < rxr> I have this in my mind and whiteboard, too!
13:28 < Baldzius> so that's all I'd say
13:28 < rxr> would be nice if you drop your wc changes to the list
13:28 < Baldzius> from my side
13:28 < Baldzius> wc?
13:28 < rxr> maybe some .cache regen, especially with the last days (today) bluez unification and other new stuff like this power device kit stuff
13:28 < Baldzius> yeah, I have cache files now
13:28 < rxr> wc == working copy -- working copy changes for the usb install
13:29 < rxr> please don't mass commit
13:29 < Baldzius> but I will have to rerun ref build again
13:29 < rxr> I usually review a little (scrolling over) to not commit too much invalid noise
13:29 < Baldzius> what you mean?
13:29 < rxr> some evil packages still introduce some invalid dep chain
13:29 < rxr> like find over all root fs files and thus depending on anything and the like
13:29 < Baldzius> oh cache files
13:29 < rxr> or pkgconfig over everything
13:29 < rxr> really eveil stuff sometimes
13:30 < Baldzius> ok, I'll kee that in mind
13:30 < Baldzius> but our cache files are very out of sync
13:30 < Baldzius> we need to update chache files before branching
13:30 < Baldzius> also I would like to do some cleanup
13:31 < rxr> you mean removing more old packages ?
13:31 < rxr> (hey, I just removed one as well!)
13:31 < Baldzius> removing obsolete
13:31 < Baldzius> others disabling
13:31 < rxr> yeah, you know I kind like keeping some useful forgotten stuff around
13:31 < rxr> drives people to t2 .-)
13:31 < Baldzius> :)
13:31 < rxr> do not rm too agressively, please"
13:31 < rxr> !
13:31 < Baldzius> they don't compile for *ages*
13:32 < rxr> yeah -- too broken ones
13:32 < Baldzius> yeah sure
13:32 < rxr> from time to time I also go over them and fix some of them :-)
13:32 < Baldzius> I will send you list before starting rm'ing :)
13:32 < rxr> you already removed "some lovely games" the last week :-(!
13:32 < Baldzius> really?
13:32 < Baldzius> like?
13:32 < Baldzius> oh
13:32 < Baldzius> those
13:32 < Baldzius> heh
13:33 < Baldzius> waste of time
13:33 < rxr> honestly I only saw the scrolling by, have not looked up how "great" they where :-)
13:33 < Baldzius> one of them vanished
13:33 < rxr> yeah, it's ok
13:33 < Baldzius> other one was a huge headache
13:34 < rxr> just wanted to underline that I really like haveing t2 as place in the web for people to discover us by searching for otherwise vanished stuff
13:34 < Baldzius> but those were games :)
13:34 < rxr> yeah I can imagine, this always sucks, udev is my newest friend in that gang
13:34 < Baldzius> at least there's development going on
13:35 < Baldzius> so there's even hope
13:35 < rxr> yeah, but in case of udev it's not development, it's craplement, just like X.org, :-(((
13:35 < Baldzius> ok gotta go for lunch
13:35 < Baldzius> will be back later
13:35 < rxr> cu then, have fun
13:40 < CIA-38> rene * r34716 /trunk/package/filesystem/aufs/aufs.desc:
13:40 < CIA-38> * updated aufs (2009-05-22 -> 2009-10-09), cvs to new git location
13:40 < CIA-38> migration, still needs some more adaptions
14:47 < Baldzius> rxr: is it possible to add runtime dependency somehow?
14:47 < Baldzius> lxde dopesn't have it's own wm so it relies on openbox
14:47 < Baldzius> this needs to be pointed somehow
14:49 < rxr> you could use the E tag to add a static dependency to some of their core packages for now
14:49 < rxr> my plan is to extend the E tag syntax an allow marks like "just runtime" or "just builttime" so a future installer and Emerge can take it into account more inteligently
14:50 < Baldzius> super
14:50 < Baldzius> never used that tag before
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14:53 < Baldzius> hm
14:53 < Baldzius> rxr: how that tag works?
14:53 < rxr> currently it only filters (del) or adds to the .cache
14:53 < Baldzius> so I need to rebuild the package after adding [E] ?
14:54 < rxr> we need to add this runtime tweak to make Emerge and installation more pleasant
14:54 < rxr> currently it's a .cache "tuner"
14:54 < rxr> yes
14:54 < Baldzius> thanks, will do
14:54 < rxr> for it to have effect on the .cache file
14:54 < Baldzius> that's what I was looking for
14:54 < Baldzius> lovely
15:03 < CIA-38> aldas * r34717 /trunk/package/lxde/lxde-common/ (lxde-common.cache lxde-common.desc): * added openbox as runtime dependency for lxde-common
15:07 < rxr> btw. E is the short of DEP, DEPENCENCY
15:07 < Baldzius> will remember now
15:07 < rxr> it's quite a "joke" that we suport the long forms of the tags, though 99.999% of the .desc files use the shorted, one char tag name :-)
15:08 < rxr> I recently thought about it and consider this good, having such long tag names would be as annoying as using XML for the .descs :-)
15:14 < Baldzius> btw we should definently implement something to stop packages installing if it's enabled in package list
15:15 < Baldzius> especially those which set the pkgprefix path
15:15 < Baldzius> that was my first mistake I made
15:15 < Baldzius> and I think there are a lot of people out there who make the same mistake
15:15 < Baldzius> we should adress this somehow
15:43 < rxr> sorry, what case do you mean ?
16:05 < Baldzius> you know packages like kdelibs which set core pkgprefix as /opt/kde
16:05 < Baldzius> so people might try to compile kdelibs even it's not selected
16:05 < Baldzius> or it's not the case anymore?
16:27 < rxr> ah - you mean pkgprefix stuff resuting in /PKGPREFIXERROR or so directories or something like that ?
16:30 < rxr> ok - gotta go for now - cu later
16:34 < Baldzius> yes
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19:54 < CIA-38> rene * r34718 /trunk/package/lua/lpeg/lpeg.conf: * also install the lpeg's "re" module, HTML documentation, likewise
19:55 < CIA-38> rene * r34719 /trunk/package/lua/lpeg/ver-hotfix.patch: * hotfix lpeg's version imprint, just while spotting it :-)
--- Log closed Tue Oct 27 00:00:17 2009