--- Log opened Sat Sep 05 00:00:43 2009 00:35 < CIA-69> aldas * r34149 /trunk/package/develop/php/ (hot-fix.patch php.conf): * enabled pdo_mysql extension for php 03:54 -!- synchris_ [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has joined #t2 03:55 -!- synchris [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 05:23 -!- synchris [n=synchris@adsl10-195.kln.forthnet.gr] has joined #t2 05:38 -!- synchris_ [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)] 06:41 -!- synchris_ [n=synchris@adsl255-94.kln.forthnet.gr] has joined #t2 06:59 -!- synchris [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:12 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 07:12 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 07:17 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit [Client Quit] 07:17 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 07:37 -!- synchris [n=synchris@79.103.8.230] has joined #t2 07:53 -!- synchris_ [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:42 -!- mpp [n=mpp@2a01:48:251:107:203:dff:fe13:6c9e] has joined #t2 09:06 < mpp> moinsen 09:45 -!- synchris_ [n=synchris@adsl249-237.kln.forthnet.gr] has joined #t2 09:53 -!- synchris [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 09:59 -!- synchris [n=synchris@adsl10-194.kln.forthnet.gr] has joined #t2 10:10 < mpp> http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/325/5945/1221 10:10 < mpp> good bye security :-) 10:15 -!- synchris_ [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:21 -!- synchris_ [n=synchris@adsl294-16.kln.forthnet.gr] has joined #t2 10:22 -!- voodoogc [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has joined #t2 10:24 -!- synchris [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:32 < koan> mpp: researchers already have been able to factor 15 with Shor's algorithm for a long time, this is just another hardware implementation 10:33 < koan> and no quantum computer has been able to factor a bigger number than 15, so I think we'll be secure for a long time :) 10:33 < koan> current quantum computers just don't scale well 10:39 -!- synchris_ [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:58 < rxr> re 11:08 < mpp> hey 11:09 < mpp> maybe u can help me a sec with a probl 11:09 < mpp> ruby installs fine under t2 11:10 < mpp> but building extensions - that is ruby is used + make command 11:10 < mpp> even emerging on the build host 11:10 < mpp> the toolchain get's invoked like /TOOLCHAIN/......../make command not found 11:10 < mpp> this should not ever happen right ! 11:10 < mpp> ? 11:11 < mpp> i am not quite sure if the root cause is in the ruby build process in the toolchain itself 11:11 < mpp> when ruby is build by Build-Target ... 11:12 < mpp> any help from anybody is very appreciated 11:12 < mpp> bottom line is that rubygems always breaks thing when the make command is called 11:13 < mpp> breaking all gems no matter what 11:22 -!- synchris [n=synchris@adsl40-15.kln.forthnet.gr] has joined #t2 11:40 -!- voodoogc [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:20 < rxr> re 12:27 < mpp> hey rxr 12:28 < mpp> is there a difference between scripts/Config .... and ./scripts/Config....... 12:28 < mpp> i may have missed it in the past 12:29 < rxr> no, that should be the same 12:32 < koan> rxr: T2 has some X video and input drivers that are deprecated by new ones or not maintained anymore by upstream, what is your policy about this? remove them in T2? 12:32 < rxr> if they don't work anymore probably remove 12:32 < rxr> or patch to conform if they are usable 12:32 < rxr> e.g. the -mouse and -kbd one 12:33 < koan> no it's more about drivers like xf86-video-via that is deprecated by xf86-video-openchrome etc 12:33 < rxr> ah ok :-) 12:33 < rxr> yeah - eventually wipe one 12:33 < rxr> if that dust is more settled 12:34 < koan> and drivers like xf86-video-imstt that has not been ported to the new libpciaccess? most recent release is more than three years old 12:35 < rxr> wait and hope, or port ourselves :-) 12:35 < rxr> pciaccess porting usually is just a few lines ... 12:35 < rxr> I love to keep stuff working 12:35 < rxr> e.g. my G4 Cube at home, or my Sgi Octane etc. 12:35 < rxr> actually all this API/ABI breaking annoys me pretty much ... 12:35 < koan> ok, so the policy is to only remove drivers that have been officially deprecated by other ones? 12:36 < rxr> and is certainly why linux did not gain more momentum and many people still keep sticking to "works more these days(tm)" Windows .. 12:36 < rxr> koan: its more like removing only what does not work anymore and noone wants to take care of in t2 12:36 < rxr> so this is certainly "keeping longer than upstreams thinks people wanna use it" 12:37 < koan> hm ok I'm not up to the task of porting drivers :-) 12:37 < rxr> do you have hardware for the driver? 12:37 < rxr> or just want to clean up ? 12:37 < koan> just cleaning up, I see all those drivers fail to build here 12:39 < rxr> ic 12:39 < koan> my suggestion is then to remove xf86-video-i810 (deprecated by xf86-video-intel), xf86-video-via (deprecated by xf86-video-openchrome) and xf86-video-vga (deprecated by xf86-video-vesa) 12:39 < koan> all three don't build anymore 12:39 < rxr> hm - vga? 12:39 < koan> and have replacements 12:39 < rxr> should port and test in another hour 12:39 < rxr> -vga can do more than -vesa ... 12:40 < rxr> (am I the only one with 386 and 486 boards in the shelf?) 12:40 < koan> :) 12:40 < rxr> anyway, we still do have i810 in trunk?= 12:40 < rxr> thought that was renamed to -intel 12:41 < rxr> no i810 in trunk 12:41 < koan> oh then it was from an old build 12:41 < rxr> for the -via case I'm unbsure 12:41 < rxr> the openchrome does also not develop that quickly 12:41 < rxr> I want to wait some more to see which of the many forks stays alive .. 12:42 < koan> the via one doesn't build here 12:44 < koan> but a more pressing issue for me are cvs and bzip which both fail to build 12:44 < koan> bzip2 12:44 < rxr> cvs with getline? 12:45 < rxr> and bzip whith this strange "some attribute whatever could not be copied?" 12:45 < koan> indeed 12:46 < rxr> should review ASAP 12:46 < rxr> for cvs a patch is on the mailing list 12:46 < koan> I'm building on a T2 7.0 Xen domu 12:46 < rxr> and for bzip2 it should be more a warning as all was built and installed 12:47 < koan> I thought it was a warning, but the binary hasn't been built 12:47 < rxr> hm - btw. in my VM (kvm) trunk built bzip2 without this issue 12:47 < rxr> but it's running on an older 2.6.18 kernel 12:47 < rxr> I thought your bzip2 log was after build and copy 12:47 < rxr> ok - gotta go, hurry to get hair cut 12:47 < rxr> :-) 12:47 < rxr> cu later 12:47 < rxr> btw. I'm in holiday next week ... 12:48 < rxr> so maybe cu much later then ... 12:48 < rxr> by 12:48 < koan> ok 12:48 < koan> bye 12:48 < koan> ok it is built, but just not installed, maybe I can look into it myself today 13:24 -!- synchris_ [n=synchris@adsl71-28.kln.forthnet.gr] has joined #t2 13:26 -!- synchris [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:04 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.57.144] has joined #t2 15:25 -!- mpp [n=mpp@2a01:48:251:107:203:dff:fe13:6c9e] has quit ["Verlassend"] 15:55 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.57.144] has left #t2 [] 16:07 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.57.144] has joined #t2 16:37 -!- synchris [n=synchris@adsl182-48.kln.forthnet.gr] has joined #t2 16:48 -!- voodoogc [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has joined #t2 16:54 -!- synchris_ [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:04 -!- synchris [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:07 -!- voodoogc [n=synchris@pdpc/supporter/professional/synchris] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:20 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.57.144] has left #t2 [] 19:55 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.57.144] has joined #t2 21:06 -!- the_rainbow0 [n=aaa@41.104.57.144] has joined #t2 21:07 -!- the_rainbow [n=aaa@41.104.57.144] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:09 -!- the_rainbow0 [n=aaa@41.104.57.144] has left #t2 [] 21:37 < rxr> re 22:21 -!- synchris [n=synchris@adsl85-166.kln.forthnet.gr] has joined #t2 23:32 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 23:32 -!- koan [n=koan@unaffiliated/koan] has joined #t2 23:46 -!- the_rainbow0 [n=aaa@41.104.57.144] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Sun Sep 06 00:00:43 2009