--- Log opened Wed Aug 05 00:00:38 2009 00:49 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@217.70.75.151] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 01:38 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@217.70.75.151] has joined #t2 02:15 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: bitdance-vacatio 02:18 -!- Netsplit over, joins: bitdance-vacatio 08:26 < mjungwirth> moin 08:29 -!- mpp [n=mpp@2a01:48:251:301:21a:6bff:fe35:820a] has joined #t2 08:33 < mpp> moinsen 08:39 < mjungwirth> can i make a 64Bit System without /lib64 dir? 09:10 -!- T-One [n=T-One@62.218.122.66] has joined #t2 09:42 < rxr> moin 09:42 < rxr> mjungwirth: you mean without 32bit libs in /lib ? 09:43 < mjungwirth> yes 09:43 < mjungwirth> right 09:43 < rxr> with some drawbacks, yes 09:43 < rxr> e.g. you could not have grub as boot loader 09:43 < rxr> lilo would work 09:43 < mjungwirth> hmm i use syslinux 09:43 < rxr> and you might have to patch some hardcoded packages 09:43 < rxr> well 09:43 < rxr> it's some config settings but it's possible 09:44 < rxr> some tinkering and trial'n error 09:44 < rxr> I do some simillar tricks for sparc64, e.g. build with a pure 32bit system by default with only very few 64bit binaries 09:44 < rxr> (like the other way round the normal on amd64 09:44 < rxr> ) 09:45 < mjungwirth> ok i use the /lib64 : 09:45 < mjungwirth> ) 09:46 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/dosemu.html 09:46 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/dosbox.html 09:52 < mjungwirth> hmm i build a 64 Bit System. On Stage 1 "gcc package" i get the following error: crti.o: No such file: No such file or directory 09:52 < mjungwirth> any solution? 09:52 < rxr> it's decades since I got something like that 09:52 < rxr> maybe no glibc32 or so ? 09:53 < rxr> you try a pure 64bit build ? 09:53 < rxr> you need to force disable multilib for that case 09:53 < mjungwirth> yes without glibc32 09:53 < rxr> as I said: a pure 64bit build is possible with some trial'n error to touch the right places 09:53 < rxr> is this for some product or so? to minimize space ? 09:54 < mjungwirth> ok i test it with glibc32 10:01 < mjungwirth> yea i received my new server only for t2-system builds (Intel I7, 8GB RAM, 4x256GB SSD Samsung with Adaptec Raid Controler) 10:02 < mjungwirth> what is the best distribution for the t2 project ? 10:02 < rxr> you mean to build t2 ? 10:02 < mjungwirth> yes 10:02 < mjungwirth> i currently use the ubuntu server 10:02 < mjungwirth> LTS 10:02 < rxr> well, I mostly use T2 itself to build T2 :-) 10:02 < mjungwirth> :) 10:03 < rxr> btw. 10:03 < rxr> berliner morgenpost today has a windows 7 article 10:03 < rxr> thes had a photo of a Dell running "windows 7", though ti was KDE 4! 10:03 < rxr> with the sub-line like "die visuallen veränderungen sah man schon seit der ersten beta" :-) 10:03 < mjungwirth> :) 10:04 < rxr> I have the article with me, should scan it :-) 10:04 < mjungwirth> yea send it to me please :) i hang it out on our firm-black-table 10:06 < rxr> ok - should do some work first 10:06 < rxr> will do later 10:07 < mjungwirth> ok thanks 10:07 < rxr> probably have to get a a3 scanner off the shelf 10:08 < mjungwirth> btw. after i add the glibc32 gcc build correctly. Thanks 10:08 < rxr> your're welcoem 10:08 < rxr> if you want a lib(32) less build you can disable the multilib option 10:09 < rxr> it's default is automatically the "sane choice" per architecture 10:09 < rxr> so you can not change it in the UI, and have to overwrite it in a target config 10:09 < rxr> some years ago it worked to build a pure 64bit environment 10:09 < rxr> without the stuff that requires 32bit though 10:09 < rxr> like grub, wine, maybe some dos-emu stuff etc. 10:13 < rxr> (lilo and others work, though) 10:25 -!- Baldzius [n=aldas@87-198-133-94.ptr.magnet.ie] has joined #t2 10:25 < Baldzius> moin 10:25 < rxr> moin Baldzius 10:25 < Baldzius> hey rxr 10:25 < Baldzius> rxr , you've started a fresh build recently right? 10:26 < rxr> yes 10:26 < rxr> but I had to fsck my volume over night 10:26 < rxr> becuase I could not wipe one build with some magic defect file 10:26 < Baldzius> gettext passes on cross stage for you? 10:26 < rxr> I guess you want to ask about attr ? 10:26 < rxr> oh - gettext, yes 10:26 < rxr> but I have some changes to the package lingering 10:26 < Baldzius> ic 10:27 < Baldzius> as it fails with autoconf-2.64 10:27 < rxr> oh 10:27 < Baldzius> you've updated yesterday I think 10:27 < rxr> I patched to not autoregen 10:27 < rxr> anyway, ages ago 10:27 < Baldzius> not sure 10:27 < Baldzius> hm 10:27 < rxr> because it took too much CPU and broke powerpc 10:27 < rxr> I can commit now 10:27 < Baldzius> just was wondering 10:27 < Baldzius> which autoconf version you have on host? 10:27 < Baldzius> cause this might be a reason 10:27 < rxr> oh no idea 10:28 < rxr> # mine -q autoconf 10:28 < rxr> autoconf 2.59 8.0-trunk 10:28 < rxr> but I can commit this change anyway 10:28 < rxr> as it shoudl fix powerpc and lower cpu useage 10:28 < rxr> by not endlessly rebuilding so much auto* junk 10:28 < Baldzius> so it's not the reason 10:28 < Baldzius> I have 2.61 10:28 < Baldzius> hm 10:28 < Baldzius> if you commit 10:28 < Baldzius> I would test it 10:28 < rxr> done 10:29 < rxr> Committed revision 33780. 10:29 < rxr> CIA-69: ? 10:29 < CIA-69> rene * r33780 /trunk/package/base/gettext/ (gettext-no_long_long.patch gettext.conf gettext.desc): * do not auto-rebuild gettext, unbreaks powerpc, saves CPU cycles 10:29 < Baldzius> thanks 10:29 < Baldzius> will check it 10:29 < rxr> thanks 10:31 < rxr> I intend to commit the next glibc major update later, likewis 10:31 < rxr> e 10:33 < Baldzius> 2.10.1? 10:33 < rxr> yep 10:33 < rxr> * updated glibc (2.9 -> 2.10.1) 10:33 < rxr> * updated glibc32 (2.9 -> 2.10.1) 10:57 < CIA-69> rene * r33781 /trunk/package/archiver/cpio/ (cpio.desc no_rmt.patch): * updated cpio (2.9 -> 2.10) 11:02 < Baldzius> thanks rxr, your commit fixed gettext 11:02 < rxr> nice 11:15 < mjungwirth> rxr: would you like to extend you hardware/server section on the t2-project.org? 11:16 < rxr> sure 11:16 < mjungwirth> hmm i have the hp dl360 and dl380 (g4, g5, g6) servers tested 11:18 < rxr> nice 11:19 < rxr> if you want to write the entries :-) 11:19 < mjungwirth> i send you a mail :) 11:20 < mjungwirth> i get a new hp blade g6 system at 01.10.2009. i think i must test it with t2 :) 11:26 -!- jncneo [n=alex@91.195.10.75] has joined #t2 11:27 < jncneo> hi all! 11:27 -!- _| [n=joeDeuce@pdpc/supporter/student/joeDeuce] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:27 < jncneo> i have a problem building uclibc in embedded configuration. could anyone help me? 11:29 -!- _| [n=joeDeuce@pdpc/supporter/student/joeDeuce] has joined #T2 11:33 < rxr> maybe 11:33 < rxr> mjungwirth: thanks 11:34 < CIA-69> rene * r33782 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-siliconmotion/xf86-video-siliconmotion.desc: * updated xf86-video-siliconmotion (1.7.2 -> 1.7.3) 11:34 < CIA-69> rene * r33783 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-trident/xf86-video-trident.desc: * updated xf86-video-trident (1.3.2 -> 1.3.3) 11:39 < jncneo> here is log: http://jncneo.nm.ru/log 11:41 < CIA-69> rene * r33784 /trunk/package/graphic/gocr/gocr.desc: * updated gocr (0.47 -> 0.48) 11:41 < CIA-69> rene * r33785 /trunk/package/gnome2/gstreamer/gstreamer.desc: * updated gstreamer (0.10.23 -> 0.10.24) 11:43 < CIA-69> rene * r33786 /trunk/package/emulators/dosemu/dosemu.desc: * updated dosemu (1.3.4 -> 1.4.0) 11:48 -!- regomodo [n=kvirc@host86-158-97-148.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #t2 11:53 [Users #t2] 11:53 [@ChanServ ] [ CIA-69] [ mjungwirth] [ oliv` ] [ T-One] 11:53 [ _| ] [ dsoul ] [ mpp ] [ regomodo] [ TobiX] 11:53 [ Baldzius ] [ jncneo] [ mqueiros_ ] [ rxr ] 11:53 [ bitdance-vacatio] [ koan ] [ mtr ] [ Stealth ] 11:53 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 11:53 < CIA-69> rene * r33787 /trunk/package/network/dhcp/dhcp.desc: 11:53 < CIA-69> Mario Jungwirth : 11:53 < CIA-69> * updated dhcp (4.1.0p1 -> 4.1.1b1) 11:55 < CIA-69> rene * r33788 /trunk/package/emulators/dosbox/ (dosbox.desc gcc43.patch): * updated dosbox (0.72 -> 0.73) 11:55 < CIA-69> rene * r33789 /trunk/package/audio/gnupod/gnupod.desc: * updated gnupod (0.99.7 -> 0.99.8) 11:55 < CIA-69> rene * r33790 /trunk/package/network/duplicity/duplicity.desc: * updated duplicity (0.6.02 -> 0.6.04) 12:05 < CIA-69> rene * r33791 /trunk/package/base/ (glibc/glibc.desc glibc32/glibc32.desc): 12:05 < CIA-69> * updated glibc (2.9 -> 2.10.1) 12:05 < CIA-69> * updated glibc32 (2.9 -> 2.10.1) 12:08 < CIA-69> rene * r33792 /trunk/package/python/gst-python/gst-python.desc: * updated gst-python (0.10.15 -> 0.10.16) 12:08 < CIA-69> rene * r33794 /trunk/package/x11/dmenu/dmenu.desc: * updated dmenu (3.6 -> 4.0) 12:09 < CIA-69> rene * r33793 /trunk/package/x11/dwm/dwm.desc: * updated dwm (5.6 -> 5.6.1) 12:10 < CIA-69> aldas * r33795 /trunk/package/base/coreutils/ (4 files): * updated coreutils (7.2 -> 7.4) 12:10 < Baldzius> rxr: could you test coreutils 12:11 < rxr> ouh 12:11 < rxr> yes, will 12:11 < Baldzius> I've removed both cross patches as it compiles fine 12:11 < Baldzius> should be fine I guess 12:12 < rxr> oh I hope too 12:12 < rxr> btw. regarding attr/acl 12:12 < rxr> I vaguely remeber that they once broke with some utils update 12:12 < rxr> like coreutils 12:12 < rxr> maybe you get an error that I don't with those too packages because some basic util update ? 12:12 < Baldzius> I will try that 12:12 < rxr> but I'll see with my all new builds here, too 12:12 < Baldzius> host has now 7.2 and it doesn't help 12:13 < Baldzius> I need to play with it a little bit 12:15 < jncneo> have anyone ever built uclibc from trunk in embedded-minimal configuration? 12:15 < rxr> probably, some weeks ago 12:15 < jncneo> was it ok? 12:16 < rxr> sure, we continously adapt stuff to keep building in regards to upstream changse 12:16 < rxr> I wanted to view your log, but your server did not mark it as content encoding text, so my browser wanted to save 12:16 < rxr> and I was too lazy to save and open an ext. editor when I usually view such stuff directly in my browser ... 12:16 < jncneo> oh, i'll check it now 12:17 < rxr> but usually breakage is easy to fix / adapt if one has a little source, edit, compile experience 12:17 < jncneo> i have a little experience in other distributions but i'm using T2 first time 12:18 < rxr> yeah - I meant "general experience" :-) 12:19 < jncneo> http://jncneo.nm.ru/log.txt not it's ok in my firefox 12:20 < rxr> ok - that are "just" shared files, installed by glibc and uclibc 12:20 < rxr> which config did you build? 12:21 < jncneo> embedded minimal 12:21 < rxr> with no option in the Config changed ? 12:23 < jncneo> aslo i've checked optimization to AMD Geode LX and "Print Build-Output to terminal while building" 12:23 < rxr> ok - they are unproblematic, but nothing else touched in the "Config" ? 12:24 < jncneo> nothing 12:24 < rxr> ok will testbuild a little later 12:24 < jncneo> thanks, i'll wait 12:27 < rxr> == 08/05/09 12:35:55 =[1]=> Finished building package coreutils. 12:29 < Baldzius> cool 12:30 < rxr> ^- x86 12:30 < rxr> == 08/05/09 12:38:05 =[3]=> Finished building package coreutils. 12:30 < rxr> ^- x86-64 12:31 < rxr> mostly fresh from scratch builds, with only todays updates intermixed 12:33 < rxr> will also start fresh ppc builds before I go for lunch 13:06 < regomodo> When was t2-7.0 released? 13:32 < regomodo> Hi, i'm doing a crosscompile trunk minimal build and I am stuck at apr-utils. The error is "checking for Berkeley DB 4.4 in /usr/include/db4... directory not found" but I have BerkeleyDB installed? 13:37 < rxr> hm 13:37 < rxr> maybe it needs some adaption to cross compile again 13:40 < rxr> Baldzius: so, fully fresh x86-64 build is in stage 5 13:55 < regomodo> rxr: I got rid of the configure error by creating a symlink between /usr/include/4.6 and /usr/include/db4 but that brings up another error 13:57 < regomodo> i686-t2-linux-gnu-gcc: /home/jon/t2sde/t2-trunk/build/current-8.0-trunk-generic-x86-i686-cross/usr/lib64/libapr-1.so: No such file or directory 13:57 < regomodo> make[1]: *** [libaprutil-1.la] Error 1" 14:02 < regomodo> Has anybody got a x-compile to work ever? I can't get one to work in 7.0 or trunk even with the minimal profile/ 14:04 < rxr> regomodo: sure, regularly using it 14:05 < regomodo> Lucky you. I've been thinkng maybe it's the host's toolchain so i've tried Gentoo x86/amd64, Fedora x86, Ubuntu x86 and Debian amd64. I'm about to give up and go back to LFS. 14:08 < rxr> what is your problem? 14:08 < rxr> what do you need aprutil for in a normal build? not really X related ... 14:10 < regomodo> rxr: I've chosen the minimal profile, without X, and it's being pulled in. 14:10 < rxr> aha 14:10 < rxr> so you just want X? 14:10 < rxr> maybe try with the currently cross broken offenders disabled? like this aprutil ? 14:10 < rxr> though soonder or later I'll probably also hit it and fix 14:12 < regomodo> rxr: I don't want X as i've found I can't get that to build (libxcb issues) so I just want something that builds and installs 14:12 < rxr> I forgot, why do you cross build at all? 14:13 < regomodo> I'm on Gentoo amd64 and wan't to build an i686 install 14:13 < rxr> if you build for common and fast silicon you have a magnitutes easier life with a native build 14:13 < rxr> yeah - but still you can native build that 14:13 < rxr> your x86-64 kernel will run the 32 bit binaries 14:13 < regomodo> Really? 14:13 < rxr> (usually, at least, unless gentoo disabled the COMPAT32 thing in the linux kernel by default) 14:13 < rxr> sure 14:14 < regomodo> wow, i'm off to try that 14:14 < rxr> in the "non cross" case T2 only cross builds the bare minimum toolchain and native builds the rest in the chroot sandbox 14:14 < rxr> as you noticed some stupid upstream changes sometimes break (regress) some of the more advanced packages to cross build 14:14 < regomodo> so i'd use x-compile between x86 and ppc thern? 14:14 < rxr> yep 14:14 < rxr> or arm, sparc etc. 14:15 < regomodo> damn 14:15 < rxr> only if your CPU silicon can not run the resulting binaries 14:18 < regomodo> i'm sure a c2d should be able to run i686 binaries. I just checked my .config and "IA32_EMULATION" is enabled 14:18 < rxr> was that the name? 14:18 < rxr> remebered some with COMPAT 14:18 < rxr> whatever 14:19 < rxr> CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION=y 14:19 < rxr> indeed 14:19 < rxr> strange 14:24 < mjungwirth> rxr: i have found a bug (build by me) in the vsftpd.conf. (Build abort on 64Bit system). i send you the correct vsftpd.conf 14:37 < CIA-69> rene * r33796 /trunk/package/network/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf: 14:37 < CIA-69> Mario Jungwirth : 14:37 < CIA-69> * fixed vsftpd for lib64 builds 14:37 < mjungwirth> thanks 14:38 < jncneo> rxr: have you checked uclibc? I've made few more tries but with no results :( 14:39 < rxr> I will now 14:39 < jncneo> thanks 14:41 < rxr> jncneo: what exactly did you select? 14:41 < rxr> when I select embedded / uclibc then I get no glibc selected 14:43 < jncneo> i've seleced: embedded-minimal, install, x85, geodelx, grub, cross-build, "Continue on package error after stage 4", Keep src dirs on build errors, (1 ) Maximum number of jobs to be executed in parallel,Use ANSI colors for terminal output and Print Build-Output to terminal while building 14:43 < jncneo> there were no checkbox with glibc or uclibc... 14:44 < rxr> ah! embedded-minimal! one second 14:44 < mjungwirth> rxr: can you add my samba fix_samba_mtab patch to the svn? 14:45 < jncneo> ok 14:46 < mjungwirth> i can't build the new samba version 3.4.0! The patchfile "configure.patch.cross" has the incorrect patch-directory for version 3.4.0 14:46 < mjungwirth> i fixed it and send per mail 14:49 -!- Baldzius [n=aldas@87-198-133-94.ptr.magnet.ie] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:50 < rxr> mjungwirth: when? 14:51 < mjungwirth> moment my mail-server is angry :) 14:52 < mjungwirth> ok is out 14:52 -!- Baldzius [n=aldas@87-198-133-94.ptr.magnet.ie] has joined #t2 14:54 < CIA-69> rene * r33797 /trunk/package/network/samba/configure.patch.cross: 14:54 < CIA-69> Mario Jungwirth : 14:54 < CIA-69> * updated samba cross compile patch 14:55 < rxr> mjungwirth: you will get a conflict, I added the proper directory name and version for us humans as reference 14:56 < CIA-69> rene * r33798 /trunk/target/embedded-minimal/ (config.in pkgsel): 14:56 < CIA-69> * fixed embedded-minimal by selecting the system libc with the proper 14:56 < CIA-69> config option to avoid implicitly selcting another (like glibc) 14:56 < rxr> jncneo: the last commit was for your config case 14:56 < mjungwirth> but the directory has changed from source to source3 14:56 < rxr> mjungwirth: yes, but you had ./ as prefix 14:56 < rxr> I changed the . to the samba-3.4.x/ 14:57 < rxr> to better reflect which version the patch was against 14:57 < jncneo> understood. i'll check right now 14:57 < rxr> so it should all be well, apply and such 14:57 < rxr> the first directory (your . my samba-$ver) will be thrown away by patch -p1 anyway ... 14:57 < rxr> this is just academic information ... 14:57 < mjungwirth> i will remember 14:58 < rxr> (though I also sometimes add ./ patches ... :-) 14:58 < mjungwirth> :) 14:58 < rxr> it's always nicer to have the proper directory prefix 14:58 < mjungwirth> i'm not alone :) 14:58 < rxr> though I'm not linus torvalds and ask for a patch resend with proper signed-off line :-) 14:58 < rxr> I edit in-place and commit :-) 14:59 < rxr> even accept inline, attachment, .zip, .tar, replacement files etc. :-) 15:00 < rxr> jncneo: you need to start a clean build to get rid of the conflicting glibc files 15:00 < rxr> jncneo: my test build is still running though - only verified the resulting .config before the commit 15:01 < jncneo> understood, thanks. i'll also make test and i'll say you if smth wrong 15:33 < rxr> initial builds with the new glibc and trunk:HEAD look fine on ppc, ppc64, likewise 15:33 < koan> maybe I should try T2 again on my G5 15:34 < koan> will you publish a new build soon? 15:57 < rxr> I should :-) 15:58 < rxr> cpu : PPC970MP, altivec supported 15:58 < rxr> clock : 2000.000000MHz 15:58 < rxr> revision : 1.0 (pvr 0044 0100) 15:58 < rxr> model : PowerMac11,2 16:04 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/emacs.html 16:31 -!- mpp [n=mpp@2a01:48:251:301:21a:6bff:fe35:820a] has quit ["Verlassend"] 17:21 < jncneo> rxr: i have one more error during configuring dropbear: 17:21 < jncneo> checking for deflate in -lz... no 17:21 < jncneo> configure: error: *** zlib missing - install first or check config.log *** 17:21 < jncneo> Due to previous errors, no 1-dropbear.log file! 17:22 < jncneo> but i have installed zlib on my system... 17:27 -!- |regomodo| [n=kvirc@host81-159-18-101.range81-159.btcentralplus.com] has joined #t2 17:43 -!- regomodo [n=kvirc@host86-158-97-148.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:54 -!- Baldzius [n=aldas@87-198-133-94.ptr.magnet.ie] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:49 < |regomodo|> Hi, I've finally built a minimal install but when I go to build the iso I get this error: 18:49 < |regomodo|> [19:44:36] Creating iso/current_cd1.iso ... 18:49 < |regomodo|> Bad Option '-q' (error -1 BADFLAG). 18:49 < |regomodo|> 18:52 < |regomodo|> Hmm, I went into the Create-ISO script and got rid of the "-q" flag OPT on line 326 19:31 < |regomodo|> I'm guessing "-q" is for quiet output. Just checked the man pages and that doesn't exist. You have to use "-quiet" 19:40 < koan> jncneo: maybe you need zlib-dev? 19:52 -!- PassingStranger [n=cat@p54BF7B9D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 19:56 < |regomodo|> I've just tried to build a minimal+x install in trunk and although it says it's completed it has skipped around 90 binary packages. 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