--- Log opened Sat Jan 31 00:00:44 2009 00:15 -!- Baldzius [n=aldas@89.127.179.94] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:33 -!- Skapare [n=phil@c-24-131-205-87.hsd1.wv.comcast.net] has joined #t2 00:34 < Skapare> I notice that many of the source package files in t2 are the same as in gentoo distfiles, but the dates are different 00:36 < Skapare> there also seem to be a lot of versions of some packages ... example: BitTorrent 01:27 -!- RayMan72 [n=radjis@dhcp-077-250-081-057.chello.nl] has quit ["i've to Leave"] 03:40 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 04:32 < Skapare> "For the price of a cup of coffee, you can get a secure, reliable, high performance, replacement for Windows, along with a free cup of coffee" 05:54 < Skapare> is there ever anyone active on this channel? 06:00 -!- axionix [n=axion@cpe-67-242-94-6.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 07:30 < Skapare> on this page ... http://t2-project.org/documentation/buildintro.html ... in paragraph 2 ... the link "T2 Sources" ... gets a 404 error from web server 10:17 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 10:18 -!- RayMan72 [n=radjis@dhcp-077-250-081-057.chello.nl] has joined #t2 10:57 < rxr> Skapare: sure 10:58 * rxr ususally from 8am to 8++ pm Central European time ... 10:58 < rxr> Skapare: thanks for the docu 404 hint - I'll take a look 11:11 < rxr> Mono 2.2 vs OCaml vs .NET vs LLVM vs JDK 11:11 < rxr> http://flyingfrogblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/mono-22.html 11:14 -!- synchris [n=synchris@athedsl-205495.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:15 -!- synchris [n=synchris@athedsl-203317.home.otenet.gr] has joined #t2 11:17 < CIA-23> rene * r31995 /trunk/package/filesystem/mfs/ (. mfs.cache mfs.desc): 11:17 < CIA-23> Steve : 11:17 < CIA-23> * added mfs (1.5.12) - A unlimited and fault tolerant space for your files 11:27 < CIA-23> rene * r31996 /trunk/package/network/nginx/nginx.desc: * updated nginx (0.6.34 -> 0.6.35) 11:39 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 11:43 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 11:49 -!- Baldzius [n=aldas@89.127.179.94] has joined #t2 11:49 < Baldzius> moin 11:49 < rxr> hey Baldzius 11:52 < Baldzius> hey rxr 11:52 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:53 < Baldzius> rxr: are you ok with the changes for ext[2,3,4] i did yesterday? 12:04 < CIA-23> aldas * r31997 /trunk/package/network/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.desc: 12:04 < CIA-23> * updated ndiswrapper (1.53 -> 1.54) 12:04 < CIA-23> * security update: CVE-2008-4395 12:05 < rxr> Baldzius: I missed them 12:08 < CIA-23> aldas * r31998 /trunk/package/e17/imlib2/imlib2.desc: 12:08 < CIA-23> * updated imlib2 (1.4.1 -> 1.4.2) 12:08 < CIA-23> * security update 12:09 < rxr> looks fine 12:09 < rxr> too bad r31992 was neccessary 12:11 < rxr> I just started an openoffice-org 3.0.1 update test build 12:11 < Baldzius> yeah, otherwise it doesn't work at all 12:11 < rxr> mtr: did you ever take a look what's up with those "language packs" .tar files openoffice creates? 12:26 < rxr> mtr: ok - extracting the .sw named "TAR files" works for the languages 13:02 < CIA-23> rene * r31999 /trunk/misc/share/CVTranslations: * updated sourceforce CV translation 13:31 < CIA-23> rene * r32000 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-pilot-conduits/gnome-pilot-conduits.desc: * updated gnome-pilot-conduits (2.0.16 -> 2.0.17) 14:03 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 14:04 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:04 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 14:12 < CIA-23> rene * r32002 /trunk/package/filesystem/unfs3/unfs3.desc: * updated unfs3 (0.9.21 -> 0.9.22) 14:12 < CIA-23> rene * r32001 /trunk/package/emulators/libvirt/libvirt.desc: * updated libvirt (0.4.2 -> 0.6.0) 14:12 < CIA-23> rene * r32003 /trunk/package/gnome2/galculator/galculator.desc: * updated galculator (1.3.1 -> 1.3.3) 14:32 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:50 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 15:03 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:05 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 15:13 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@217.70.71.135] has joined #t2 15:30 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:33 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 16:00 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@217.70.71.135] has quit [] 17:24 < CIA-23> rene * r32004 /trunk/package/xorg/xcb-util/xcb-util.desc: * updated xcb-util (0.3.2 -> 0.3.3) 17:25 < CIA-23> rene * r32005 /trunk/package/x11/libvncserver/libvncserver.desc: * updated libvncserver (0.9.1 -> 0.9.7) 17:25 < CIA-23> rene * r32006 /trunk/package/graphic/gocr/gocr.desc: * updated gocr (0.45 -> 0.46) 17:25 < CIA-23> rene * r32007 /trunk/package/multimedia/libdc1394/libdc1394.desc: * updated libdc1394 (2.0.2 -> 2.1.0) 17:32 < CIA-23> rene * r32008 /trunk/package/textproc/kile/kile.desc: * updated kile (2.0 -> 2.0.3) 17:35 * Skapare is still trying to figure out what he needs to build T2, based on the online docs 17:37 < rxr> there also is the "huge" handbook 17:37 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/handbook/html/index.html 17:37 < Skapare> I've been looking at that, too ... but I wanted to look at what to download to see what it is so I can understand 17:38 < rxr> you can also download pre-built binary ISOs to get a first impression 17:38 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/download/ 17:38 < Skapare> that won't fit my objectives ... if ISOs were all that T2 is, it wouldn't be of interest to me 17:39 < rxr> ok - then the 1.4 MB script + package meta-data tarball is for you 17:39 < rxr> the T2 scripts download required open source archives (gcc, linux kernel, etc.) auto-matically as needed 17:39 < Skapare> what I am looking for is something I can build from source inside a chroot (same arch as host) w/o having to reboot or run a vm 17:40 < rxr> yes - either the source tarball or a SVN checkout of T2 is what you are looking for 17:40 < rxr> have to go, get some luch - cu later 17:40 < Skapare> bye 17:40 < rxr> btw. don#t hesitate to ask on the list for a wider, asynchron audience 17:40 < Skapare> can't subscribe right now ... mail server issues 17:42 < Skapare> I just need to see where to download these things ... "1.4 MB script + package meta-data tarball" 18:15 -!- mpp [n=mpp@i538748DB.versanet.de] has joined #t2 18:15 < mpp> moin moin 18:19 < Skapare> hi 18:19 < Skapare> is svn:// down? 18:20 < Skapare> connect(3, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(3690), sin_addr=inet_addr("85.183.32.143")}, 16) = -1 ECONNREFUSED (Connection refused) 18:25 < mpp> not that i kno 18:26 < mpp> what url did u use for svn ? 18:32 -!- mpp_ [n=mpp@i53877D20.versanet.de] has joined #t2 18:48 -!- mpp_ [n=mpp@i53877D20.versanet.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008121621]"] 18:49 -!- mpp [n=mpp@i538748DB.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:54 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: TobiX, digitaloktay 18:54 -!- Netsplit over, joins: digitaloktay 18:56 -!- TobiX [i=tobias@zoidberg.org] has joined #t2 20:08 -!- Baldzius [n=aldas@89.127.179.94] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:20 < rxr> Skapare: yes, use http* 20:20 < rxr> svn.// is no more 20:20 < rxr> should rmeove the web reference 20:41 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/portable/Sony/VGN-P/ 20:41 < rxr> but I only checked it out in the Berlin Sony store 20:42 < rxr> (yes, I boot a fresh trunk build in stores before I buy hardware ... :-) 21:01 < Skapare> so why no more svn:// ? wasn't that faster? 21:06 < Skapare> svn: PROPFIND of '/t2/trunk': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://svn2.exactcode.de:81) 21:08 < Skapare> seems to be an issue with svn2.exactcode.de ... working OK on svn.exactcode.de 21:13 < Skapare> not sure yet what I'm getting, but I'm getting it 21:19 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:19 < Skapare> so, why do "svn co" instead of "svn export"? 21:19 < Skapare> ... for people who are not committers 21:20 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 21:31 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:34 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 21:45 < rxr> Skapare: because we do not want to maintan ACL lists 3 times ... 21:45 -!- digitaloktay [n=debian@dslb-088-064-162-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:46 < rxr> Skapare: svn export does not allow you to get incremental updates 21:46 < rxr> Skapare: with svn co you can get incremental deltas and do not need completely new checkouts 21:51 < Skapare> OK, so I should keep a "local master" copy from "svn co" and I can replicate it sans the .svn subdirectories to make my own tarballs 21:54 < Skapare> so how small of a target can T2 be customized for? Would it be a big task to make a target for a Linksys WRT54GL router? 21:54 < Skapare> task for me to do that is 21:56 -!- tri [n=tri@p4FCF3BD7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 21:59 < Skapare> rxr: oh, and be sure to remove references to svn:// in the handbook PDF ... and how do you create that PDF, with what tool, a "to PDF" converter from HTML? 22:02 < rxr> Skapare: the handbook is XML / Docbook 22:03 < rxr> Skapare: the HTMl and PDF are generated with the Apache project's FOP (I think the tool was named) 22:03 < rxr> yes fop 22:03 < rxr> IMHO the only useful XML Dcbook processing engine 22:04 < rxr> Skapare: the routers are fully in T2 scope, a target was even already started 22:04 < rxr> but is not yet read 22:04 < rxr> y 22:04 < rxr> systems can even be smaller, like < 1MB for cloud sensors etc. 22:08 < Skapare> is there a WYSIWYG editor for the XML / Docbook? 22:08 < Skapare> I see lots of typos in the handbook and would be willing to do some editor, but I hate XML 22:10 < Skapare> I have primarily used OO for writing ... maybe it can import the XML/Docbook and re-export it after changes 22:12 < Skapare> I have a few different targets I might like to use T2 for, including a spare WRT54GL router 22:12 < Skapare> and I might soon have access to some ARM eval boards 22:17 < Skapare> I will, of course, have to learn how to tweak the target configuration specifics :) 22:23 < CIA-23> rene * r32009 /trunk/package/office/openoffice-org/openoffice-org.conf: * improved openoffice-org to extract the created language packs 22:24 < rxr> Skapare: some typos are already fixed in the handbook SVN 22:24 < rxr> we should regenerete the HTML and PDF representation shortly 22:26 < CIA-23> rene * r32010 /trunk/package/office/openoffice-org/openoffice-org.conf: * build french openoffice-org translation by default 22:32 < rxr> good n8 everyone 22:32 [Users #t2] 22:32 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul] [ mtr ] [ Skapare ] [ TobiX ] [ |beowulf|] 22:32 [ CIA-23 ] [ koan ] [ RayMan72] [ Stealth ] [ tri ] 22:32 [ DEac-_ ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ synchris] [ {Brad}] 22:32 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] --- Log closed Sun Feb 01 00:00:50 2009