--- Log opened Sun Jan 04 00:00:59 2009 00:05 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@217.70.71.72] has joined #t2 00:28 -!- DigitalOktay_ot [n=DigitalO@dslb-084-057-241-056.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 01:09 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has joined #t2 03:43 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:56 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has joined #t2 06:48 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:14 -!- Chris67 [n=root@HSI-KBW-082-212-035-181.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #t2 12:23 < rxr> re 12:23 [Users #t2] 12:23 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-22] [ koan] [ mqueiros_] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ] 12:23 [ Chris67 ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ Stealth] [ |beowulf|] 12:23 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal] 12:52 < koan> rxr: are you running T2 on your Acer Aspire One? 12:53 < CIA-22> rene * r31686 /trunk/package/develop/valgrind/valgrind.desc: * updated valgrind (3.3.1 -> 3.4.0) 13:04 < rxr> koan: nope, I was only typing on the one on a christmas day 13:05 < rxr> I'm waiting for a useful Apple sub-notebook (like a thinner 12" PowerBook) for years (yes, the crippled and not so useful formed MacBook Air doesn't count :-) 13:05 < rxr> due to lack of "real quality hardware" I keep my eye on the HP mini 1000 or Lenovo Ideapad 13:05 < rxr> but the mini is still not available in Germany (sigh) and the Ideapad as a strange keyboard layout in Germany ... :-( 13:06 < rxr> so I'm still eying possible devices 13:06 < rxr> for me it must have a > 10" screen 13:06 < rxr> 8.x" is way to small for serious typing 13:11 < koan> I have bought a AA1 and I like it for my occasional trips 13:12 < rxr> linux running already? 13:12 < rxr> I mean there should not be anything in the way to just run T2 13:12 < rxr> koan: did you got the 8" or 1x" flavor ? 13:12 < koan> maybe I'll install T2 on it, I have now Ubuntu on it, but that's too bloated, especially on this sort of machine 13:12 < koan> the 8.9", 512 MB RAM, 8 GB SSD 13:13 < koan> this was the only model I could buy in Belgium without being forced a Windows license :-( 13:14 < koan> btw, if I want to build T2 for it, what optimalisation should I use for the Atom processor? is this i686? 13:15 < rxr> it can even run 64bit code IIRC 13:17 < rxr> so in theory core2 with -Os 13:18 < koan> hm the Diamondville in these netbooks is purely 32 bit, according to Wikipedia 13:18 < rxr> oh - really? 13:18 < rxr> I thought they have 64bit and the VT 13:19 < koan> the desktop ones, yes 13:19 < rxr> I have the dual core Atom 330 in a server, but I do not run y 64bit kernel due to just re-using the old server install ... 13:20 < rxr> Instruction setx86, x86-64 13:20 < koan> http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupId=36331 13:20 < rxr> x86-64 is so far only activated for the Atom 230 and 330 desktop models 13:20 < koan> this one has no VT and no x86-64 13:20 < rxr> oh 13:21 < rxr> I thought all Atoms would include 64bit instructions 13:21 < rxr> what a mess Intel made out of the marketing names yet again 13:21 < koan> indeed 13:21 < koan> so which optimization could I use for this N270 then? 13:22 < rxr> -march=prescott -Os # maybe 13:22 < koan> ok I found this on gentoo: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Safe_Cflags/Intel#Atom_N270 13:23 < rxr> strange Gentoo lists Os for the 330 and O2 for the N270 13:23 < rxr> guess just random thoughts of Gentoo users 13:23 < koan> :-) 13:23 < rxr> in projects I found Os generally preferable for "tiny" / "low-end" CPUs with "not too much cache" 13:25 < rxr> but actually, for some "should run everywhere" project I just use 686 + Os for some auto-updated seed that is intended to theoretically just run on every "reasonable" silicon of the last decades" 13:25 < koan> is the difference noticeable? 13:25 < rxr> this has the benefit to just swap boards / backplanes and to continue to run the software no matter what manufactor it is 13:26 < rxr> I found the difference only notivable in security (encryption), compression and multi media / graphic / audio stuff 13:26 < rxr> because in tight loops massively number crunching it can differ upt o 2-8 times of higher performance 13:27 < rxr> but some of the key packages, such as ffmpeg, have multiple assembly code paths that are run-time selected anyway 13:28 < koan> ok 13:31 < CIA-22> rene * r31687 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: 13:31 < CIA-22> Martin Papadopoulos : 13:31 < CIA-22> * updated git (1.6.0.4 -> 1.6.0.6) 13:36 < CIA-22> rene * r31688 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.sh: * added ext4 to the initrd embedded filesystem kernel modules 13:38 < CIA-22> rene * r31689 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.sh: 13:38 < CIA-22> Martin Papadopoulos : 13:38 < CIA-22> * added kernel modules to the kernel initrd required to boot from to 13:38 < CIA-22> boot hp smartarray and ibm serveraid controllers 13:45 < CIA-22> rene * r31690 /trunk/package/network/ntp/ntpd.init: 13:45 < CIA-22> Martin Papadopoulos : 13:45 < CIA-22> * improved ntpd.init to set the clock to a sane value before daemonizing 13:48 < CIA-22> rene * r31691 /trunk/package/gnome2/gail/: 13:48 < CIA-22> Martin Papadopoulos : 13:48 < CIA-22> * removed gail, obsolete according to http://www.gnome.org/ ... 13:48 < CIA-22> * as a side effect this fixes shared files with gtk+ et al. 14:08 -!- mpp [n=mpp@i53875693.versanet.de] has joined #t2 14:25 < CIA-22> rene * r31692 /trunk/package/emulators/kvm/ (7 files): * updated kvm (81 -> 82) 14:28 < rxr> hi mpp 14:29 < mpp> moin moin rxr 14:29 < mpp> :-) 14:29 < mpp> i'am excited to see kvm beeing patched 14:29 < mpp> i'll give it a try with trunk 14:29 < mpp> btw. the 2.6.28 breaks with the aufs patch 14:30 < mpp> on the nr_cpus matter i checked the git repo of ther kernel - seems to be some changes for more than 8 cores coming our way 14:30 < rxr> the shared kvm.h is still not addressed .... 14:31 < mpp> :-( 14:31 < rxr> you could easily just ignore it as well :-) 14:31 < mpp> but it's okay for now - virtualbox does work on trunk 14:31 < mpp> ah k 14:31 < rxr> (or I patch the installation fo it away for the time being) 14:32 < mpp> i would say to have it complain about the shared file rather then suppress it 14:32 < mpp> i have discovered another curious thing regarding xorg-server on trunk 14:32 < rxr> well - for an error-less build one occurance has to be suprressed 14:33 < mpp> if you build the repo (besides the xkeyboard-config)there seem to be no shared file - but ... 14:33 < mpp> the font-misc-misc and font-cursor-misc packages need to be rebuild to have the x-server running. 14:34 < mpp> i'll investigate this next week to see why and how . same goes for dbus + dbus-glib + hal 14:34 < mpp> allthoug they all build fine on the target system they need to be recompiled ... 14:34 < mpp> no shared files though... 14:40 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@217.70.71.72] has quit [Client Quit] 15:09 -!- DigitalOktay [n=DigitalO@dslb-084-056-222-000.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 15:22 < mpp> hey rxr 15:23 < mpp> i have a git version of fluxbox on dl2+dl3 15:23 < mpp> fluxbox could use an update - some annoying bugs where fixed 15:23 < mpp> and since t2 has no git checkout i packed the git version to a tarball 15:31 -!- DigitalOktay is now known as digitaloktay 15:43 < koan> rxr: what does "The use of custmain is deprecated, please use hooks instead" mean? 16:16 -!- tri [n=tri@p4FCF4923.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 16:19 < CIA-22> rene * r31693 /trunk/package/emulators/kvm/kvm.conf: * fixed kvm's mactel bios to not be built with optimizations and thus not work 16:24 -!- digitaloktay [n=DigitalO@dslb-084-056-222-000.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 16:38 -!- mpp [n=mpp@i53875693.versanet.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092510]"] 16:43 -!- tri [n=tri@p4FCF4923.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Leaving."] 18:02 -!- tri [n=tri@p4FCF4923.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 18:23 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has joined #t2 18:37 < rxr> koan: that the package is using 'custmain' "main" function 18:37 < rxr> and should be converted to use more fine grained hooks 18:37 < rxr> (it's just a developer reminder, the normal user would not need to care) 18:50 -!- tri [n=tri@p4FCF4923.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #t2 [] 19:11 -!- TobiX [i=tobias@zoidberg.org] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 19:11 -!- TobiX [i=tobias@zoidberg.org] has joined #t2 19:39 < CIA-22> rene * r31694 /trunk/package/emulators/kvm/09-qemu-multiboot.patch: 19:39 < CIA-22> * fixed kvm/09-qemu-multiboot.patch hardcoded memory address 19:39 < CIA-22> assumptions to reflect new option ROM location 20:38 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:53 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: @ChanServ, TobiX, Stealth 20:54 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @ChanServ, TobiX, Stealth 21:26 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has joined #t2 21:33 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:44 -!- kic- [i=rfoote@adsl-074-229-035-019.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #t2 21:59 -!- kic- [i=rfoote@adsl-074-229-035-019.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has quit ["ircN 8.00 for mIRC (20080809) - www.ircN.org"] 22:20 -!- wtracy [n=wtracy@natusers1.stennerglenstudents.com] has joined #t2 22:35 -!- synchris [n=synchris@ppp-94-65-175-154.home.otenet.gr] has joined #t2 23:20 < Chris67> q 23:20 -!- Chris67 [n=root@HSI-KBW-082-212-035-181.hsi.kabelbw.de] has quit ["leaving"] 23:43 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@217.70.71.72] has joined #t2 23:43 -!- gw [n=gw@2001:44b8:62:7f0:21b:63ff:fe01:f18d] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Mon Jan 05 00:00:05 2009