T2 IRC Log: 2008-12-16

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--- Log opened Tue Dec 16 00:00:07 2008
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09:13 < rxr> re
09:28 < mtr> moin rxr
09:37 < rxr> hi mtr
09:51 < CIA-66> rene * r31532 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-doc-utils/gnome-doc-utils.desc: * updated gnome-doc-utils (0.14.0 -> 0.14.1)
09:51 < CIA-66> rene * r31533 /trunk/package/develop/ctalk/ctalk.desc: * updated ctalk (0.0.89a -> 0.0.90a)
09:51 < CIA-66> rene * r31534 /trunk/package/scientific/gsl/gsl.desc: * updated gsl (1.11 -> 1.12)
09:52 < CIA-66> rene * r31535 /trunk/package/base/bison/bison.desc: * updated bison (2.4 -> 2.4.1)
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13:30 < d_oilen> hi
13:31 < d_oilen> rxr r u there?
13:46 < rxr> yeah
13:46 < rxr> h
13:46 < rxr> i
13:52 < d_oilen> remember our chat about blackfin?
13:53 < d_oilen> i want to use it for a small video surveilance app
13:53 < d_oilen> 2 cameras and one ethernet
13:53 < d_oilen> usb cameras
14:02 < rxr> mtr: do you do something special to your xulrunner or so?
14:02 < rxr> mtr: in trunk openoffice-org still fails for me with checking for MOZ_NSS... configure: error: Package requirements (libxul-nss ) were not met:
14:04 < rxr> d_oilen: yeah - sound possible, though I do not remeber from the top of my head if blackfin incldues USB HCI in the SoC in many cases
14:04 < d_oilen> i wanted to use the exact board that is presented on t2
14:04 < d_oilen> ok
14:05 < rxr> aside the project thing I can not disclose much about I used a BF533 STAMP for testing
14:05 < d_oilen> i'll try to investigate further on supplier site
14:05 < d_oilen> tnx
14:05 < rxr> STAMPs are some Analog Devices examples test boards
14:05 < rxr> most electronic suppliers usually list those
14:08 < rxr> mtr: ok - one obvius thing: nss and xulrunner appear to be build order reversed and in a trunk:HEAD build xulrunner comes out without nss support
14:08 * rxr testing
14:14 < d_oilen> rxr did you make the suggest
14:14 < d_oilen> ed modifications to the mkfs commands?
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14:25 < CIA-66> rene * r31536 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
14:25 < CIA-66> * changed nss build priority (153.000 -> 153.500)
14:25 < CIA-66> * changed xulrunner build priority (152.500 -> 152.000)
14:25 < CIA-66> * added xulrunner.cache
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14:47 < mtr> rxr: yes, you're right, nss had higher prio than xulrunner
14:47 < mtr> building xulrunner with system nss won't work
14:52 < mtr> btw., your changeset did not revert the order
14:54 < mtr> nss prio has to be higher than sqlite 120.000, the highest dependency listed in the cache file
14:54 < mtr> and below xul-runner then
14:54 < mtr> openoffice-org update to 3.0.0 is pending on my system
14:55 < mtr> already builds, but throws an excpetion on startup when opening other files than draw documents
14:56 < mtr> (strange thing, after opening a draw document, swriter and scalc work as well ...)
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15:18 < kic-> hello all :D
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15:55 < rxr> hey kic-
15:55 < rxr> how are "things" & life ?
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16:01 < kic-> heh
16:01 < kic-> they're all right
16:02 < kic-> holidays are approaching
16:02 < kic-> so everything is getting busy again
16:02 < kic-> how are things in your part of the world?
16:05 < rxr> oh - great, too (despite the global finanical *crisis*)
16:05 < rxr> nice to see you again
16:05 < kic-> you too
16:05 < kic-> yah, the economy problems are terrible at the moment
16:05 < kic-> sucks
16:05 < rxr> business is doing well?
16:06 < rxr> your's I mean
16:06 < kic-> *shrug* still trying to market and locate some customers..
16:06 < kic-> have a couple of decent sized contracts that i am trying to close deals on
16:06 < kic-> hopefully they will pan out
16:06 < rxr> I cross my fingers for you
16:06 < kic-> thank you
16:06 < kic-> how is yours doing?
16:06 < kic-> any new exciting projects?
16:06 < rxr> good thanks
16:07 < rxr> we also have some neat stuff in the queue we'll come up with soon :-)
16:07 < kic-> cool :d
16:07 < kic-> whatever happened to the openmoko phone UI?
16:07 < kic-> that get finished up? :D
16:08 < rxr> yeah - that is one of the neat things
16:08 < kic-> cool :D
16:08 < rxr> but it's not for the phone, the phone was just a test-bed (hardware and case sucks anyway)
16:08 < kic-> ahh
16:08 < kic-> maybe something for google's new android :D
16:09 < kic-> im in the market for a new cell phone soon
16:09 < kic-> debating either the iPhone, Blackberry Storm, or the G1 google phone
16:09 < rxr> (also not for android :-) - while potentially for cells, more widely useful :-)
16:09 < rxr> more soon on our upcoming homepage refresh
16:10 < kic-> woo, cool, ok, i'll keep my eyes open :D
16:10 < rxr> you mean to sell phone contracts just just need one for yourself ?
16:10 < kic-> lol
16:10 < kic-> yah, i need cell for myself, i sell voIP
16:11 < kic-> for offices
16:11 < kic-> not mobile
16:11 < rxr> ah :-)
16:11 < rxr> well - susan as the US iPhone, now, I got a 3G for myself here in Germany (despite the prizy T-Mobile contract, sigh)
16:12 < rxr> s/as/has/ :-)
16:12 < kic-> hehe
16:12 < kic-> yeah
16:12 < kic-> tmobile..
16:12 < kic-> ugh
16:12 < kic-> thats why don't think i'll get the G1
16:12 < kic-> i hate tmobile =(
16:12 < kic-> atleast here..
16:12 < rxr> despite being a German company T-Mobile is no fun over here
16:12 < kic-> their coverage is not good quality
16:12 < rxr> probably the most expensive ...
16:13 < kic-> yah
16:13 < rxr> coverage in Germany is excellent - just their pricing (and service) - ieek!
16:13 < kic-> hehe
16:13 < kic-> i'm leaning towards the bberry storm right now
16:13 < kic-> i like bberry's anyways :D
16:13 < rxr> I make 3 corsses int the calendar when the 2 year contract pyed of the 3G phone :-)
16:14 < rxr> crosses ...
16:14 < kic-> lol
16:14 < rxr> damn - too less IRC in the last days ...
16:14 < kic-> heh
16:14 < kic-> i need to find an excuse to come visit germany
16:14 < kic-> some business trip or something
16:14 < rxr> :-)
16:14 < rxr> you're welcome
16:15 < kic-> hope susan doing well
16:15 < rxr> btw. got some neat pics from Berlin at night to get you into a warm fuzzy xmas feeling
16:15 < kic-> oh yah?
16:15 < kic-> hehe
16:15 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2008-12-07/berlin-festival-of-lights-2008/
16:15 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/photos/?p=/Berlin/2008/Festival of Lights/
16:15 < kic-> festival of lights!
16:15 < kic-> cool
16:16 < rxr> yeah - some turist attraction thing here in berlin, with the new tripod I got for birthday and my SLR the pictures got really nice
16:16 < kic-> yah, i see
16:16 < kic-> great quality
16:16 < rxr> (some are repeated with under/over exposure to potentially create HDR images if I ever get time for that)
16:17 < kic-> hehe
16:17 < kic-> wow, great pictures
16:18 < rxr> some excuse to visit Germany next year, heh?
16:18 < rxr> (ok - but it's cold over here at that time in October, like below 10°C, if you are unlucky even around the freezing point
16:18 < rxr> )
16:18 < kic-> ouch
16:18 < kic-> chilly
16:18 < kic-> its still 70's (f) here
16:19 < rxr> these days (december) it's usually around freezing and sometimes smowing over here in Germany ...
16:20 < rxr> though right now 6°C in Berlin (42.8 fahrenheit)=
16:20 < rxr> (thanks to the google built-in calculator)
16:20 < kic-> hehe
16:20 < rxr> fahrenheit is not a funny unit ...
16:20 < rxr> irssi should have a bulit-in degree converter for all to get the real-feel (tm) value :-)
16:21 < rxr> greetings from susan
16:21 < kic-> hehe
16:21 < kic-> *waves to susan*
16:21 < rxr> yeah - do - also to your familly
16:21 < rxr> maybe share the photos :-)
16:21 < kic-> will do :)
16:22 < kic-> i have some pics
16:22 < kic-> up
16:22 < kic-> of the children
16:22 < kic-> newer ones
16:22 < kic-> www.avixion.net/children/
16:22 * rxr showing to susan
16:22 < kic-> :)
16:23 < kic-> 3 children.. definately a handfull
16:23 < kic-> :D
16:23 < rxr> susan enjoys them :-)
16:23 < kic-> cool :)
16:24 < rxr> oh - there might still be the tiny possibility that we are in san fran in january
16:24 < kic-> oh yah?
16:24 < kic-> cool, San francisco is alot of fun
16:25 < rxr> hope so :-) have not been there yet
16:25 < rxr> (susan was, and valentin last year to a conference ...)
16:25 < kic-> ahh, cool
16:25 < rxr> but I somehow get the feeling it's not my turn next january ... :-(
16:25 < kic-> lots of steep suburban hills
16:25 < kic-> all the roads are like roller coasters.. if you drive on them
16:25 < rxr> get's somehow less likely with every passing day ...
16:26 < rxr> well - /me still hope, if not sometime later ...
16:26 < kic-> hehe
16:26 < kic-> eventually
16:26 < kic-> :D
16:26 < rxr> yeah - I know, and saw pictures from valentin
16:26 < kic-> i had a girlfriend in san fran once
16:26 < kic-> before i was married
16:26 < kic-> she was cuban
16:26 < kic-> and hot
16:26 < kic-> :D
16:26 < kic-> hah
16:28 < kic-> my T2 guardian box is still going strong
16:28 < kic-> root@guardian:/home# uptime
16:28 < kic-> 10:18:15 up 173 days, 8:50, 7 users, load average: 0.02, 0.03, 0.05
16:28 < kic-> root@guardian:/home# uname -a
16:28 < kic-> Linux guardian 2.6.25.8-dist #1 SMP Tue Jun 24 12:20:39 EDT 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
16:28 < kic-> root@guardian:/home# cat /etc/VERSION
16:28 < kic-> T2 SDE 8.0-trunk (2007/09/06)
16:28 < kic-> root@guardian:/home#
16:28 < kic-> :D
16:29 < rxr> :-)
16:29 < rxr> (dont forget security updates :-)
16:48 < kic-> right
16:48 < kic-> HEH
17:24 < CIA-66> mtr * r31537 /trunk/package/gnome2/gstreamer/gst-parser-bison.patch: * added gstreamer patch from upstream to fix build with newer bison 2.4.1
17:25 < CIA-66> mtr * r31538 /trunk/package/printing/hal-cups-utils/hal-cups-utils.desc:
17:25 < CIA-66> * updated hal-cups-utils (0.6.16 -> 0.6.18)
17:26 < CIA-66> * changed [D] from svn to release archive
17:36 < rxr> mtr: can you send me the ooo update?
17:36 < rxr> mtr: would like to try working on that one as well
18:04 < mtr> should I just commit the OOo update then?
18:04 < mtr> it once build about two weeks ago ...
18:05 < rxr> normally not
18:06 < rxr> but as I never got the current one to build maybe just do ...
18:06 < rxr> not starting should be better than not configuring .-)
18:06 < rxr> and I need preferable no-go openoffice-org working sometime soon :-)
18:10 < mtr> never tried go-oo, doesn't it work or build?
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18:18 < CIA-66> mtr * r31539 /trunk/package/office/openoffice-org/ (8 files in 2 dirs): * updated openoffice-org (2.4.1 -> 3.0.0)
18:18 < rxr> yes, the go used to build
18:19 < rxr> but I need a new version and rather would like to re-base to the non-big-vendor mungled, more vanilla flavour
18:19 < rxr> (I also hope it saves some minute or hour of build time)
18:21 < mtr> http://nopaste.org/p/a5PAzdN6i
18:22 < mtr> ^-- error log from yesterdays build after updating svn wc
18:23 < mtr> after that I disabled --use-system-boost, but the build is still pending now
18:28 < rxr> ok - let's see how this configure behaves
18:34 < CIA-66> rene * r31540 /trunk/package/ (develop/xulrunner/xulrunner.desc security/nss/nss.desc):
18:34 < CIA-66> * build nss before xulrunner as intended in r31536:
18:34 < CIA-66> * changed nss build priority (153.500 -> 153.000)
18:34 < CIA-66> * changed xulrunner build priority (152.000 -> 153.500)
18:38 < rxr> heh - now it fails due to requiring an newer JDK than my reference build env. has ...
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19:11 < CIA-66> rene * r31541 /trunk/package/xorg/xcb-util/xcb-util.desc: * updated xcb-util (0.3.1 -> 0.3.2)
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20:35 < d_oilen> hi
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