T2 IRC Log: 2008-12-01

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--- Log opened Mon Dec 01 00:00:37 2008
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09:36 < mpp> moinse
09:53 < rxr> you will not need gnome-libs14 :-) which package has it still in it's deps ?
09:54 < koan> if I remember correctly, it was pidgin
10:01 < CIA-10> rene * r31412 /trunk/package/archiver/7zip/7zip.desc: * updated 7zip (4.58 -> 4.61)
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16:10 < bri|zor> hey
16:11 < bri|zor> If anyone is around, I was wondering if there's a way for T2 to generate a pxelinux.0 file in order to deploy a built image via TFTP
16:17 < rxr> the syslinux package should install it
16:17 < rxr> usr/lib/syslinux/pxelinux.0
16:17 < rxr> it's just a matter of moving all required files and config into your server's directory
16:19 < bri|zor> hmm okay, i'll take a look, thanks!
16:19 < rxr> don't forget a pxelinux.cfg like:
16:19 < rxr> PROMPT 1
16:19 < rxr> TIMEOUT 50
16:19 < rxr> LABEL linux
16:19 < rxr> KERNEL vmlinuz_2.6.26.2-dist
16:19 < rxr> APPEND initrd=initrd-rescue.img
16:19 < bri|zor> right
16:20 < bri|zor> at build time do you have to define syslinux as a package? or is it defaulted?
16:20 < bri|zor> if now i'll just try to build this again
16:21 < rxr> depends on the target
16:21 < rxr> tiny targets might not select it
16:21 < rxr> some generic targets will buidl it
16:22 < rxr> if in doubt just select it :-) or start a target building exactly what you need
16:22 < bri|zor> yeah i tried to figure out how to manually select the packages through the curses interface, but i didn't understand how to get it done, i'll just keep trying
16:22 < bri|zor> being forced to get back into linux at work ahha
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17:59 < bri|zor> in the configuration menu, how do you select specific packages to include?
17:59 < bri|zor> with a generic embedded profile
17:59 < rxr> hm - generic embedded - /me wonders if the selection works there
18:00 < rxr> hm - but should
18:00 < rxr> well, basically you can (or have to) specifiy the same selection rules sin in target/*/pkgsel
18:00 < rxr> basically:
18:00 < rxr> X pkg # to select
18:00 < rxr> and
18:00 < rxr> O pkg # to un-select
18:00 < rxr> (there is more like repo/* for all packages in a repository and other advanced stuff)
18:01 < rxr> so if you want to just add syslinux: X syslinux
18:01 < bri|zor> oh ok
18:01 < bri|zor> and you have to do that for each package you would want to remove/add potentially?
18:01 < rxr> yes, sorry that the Config is so slow - it's on our TODO :)
18:01 < rxr> but when you added the first package you can edit config/.../pkgsel with your preferred editor
18:02 < rxr> or store all this config state in your custom target/.../
18:02 < bri|zor> yeah, i was just expecting more or less a menu where it would give you the list of EVERY package available and you go through and pick and choose
18:02 < bri|zor> since it's only enabled on the advanced mode
18:02 < bri|zor> otherwise the user would be defaulted to the template set defined by install type
18:03 < rxr> yeah - we should add something like this
18:03 < bri|zor> and there is nothing in the documentation about it which is why i just decided to come to irc :)
18:04 < rxr> that's out trick to get people in here to talk with :-)
18:04 < rxr> s/out/our/
18:04 < bri|zor> haha
18:04 < bri|zor> well it's nice to see that there are people here to talk about it
18:04 < rxr> but patches welcome, e.g. for the easier checkbox package selection, although this might increase monthly new IRC visitors by some margin :-(
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18:05 < bri|zor> yeah
18:05 < bri|zor> there are no good EDK's out there, they've been bought up by larger companies and turned them into commercial products
18:05 < bri|zor> i'm just trying to get into the whole embedded thing
18:06 < rxr> T2 is one of the most flexible, especially as it goes over the usual embedded subset and supports building whole desktop and server systems
18:06 < rxr> so you get used to a "one build system fits it all thing" instead of just learning a single custom solution for just embedded systems
18:07 < bri|zor> yeah i mean i've used linux distros and bsds in the past, but kind of shyed away from it recently since i moved to OS X, but I've been doing a lot with Gentoo again at work so I wanted to take a stab at this
18:08 < rxr> :-)
18:09 < bri|zor> this would be 1000x times easier if the target system had a cd-rom drive, or even a floppy lol
18:09 < rxr> faster?
18:10 < bri|zor> well it's just i'm working with an old machine for the target that has no cd-rom or floppy, so i can't boot the new T2 build via those means
18:10 < bri|zor> which means i'm going to netboot it from a tftp server
18:10 < rxr> 2 hint: 1) I usually test in qemu, near instand edit compile test cycle 2) network ...
18:10 < bri|zor> and then write it to the hdd with dd probably
18:10 < rxr> ok I see you got 2) already :-)
18:10 < bri|zor> so using the network is what needs me to get that pxelinux.0 file and all that good stuff
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19:14 < CIA-10> rene * r31427 /trunk/package/filesystem/ntfs-3g/ntfs-3g.desc: * updated ntfs-3g (1.5012 -> 1.5130)
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