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00:48 < d_oilen> hello
00:49 < d_oilen> can somebody help with autoconf problem in 7.0-rc2?
01:01 < d_oilen> nobody?
01:02 < d_oilen> so it appears as far as i read that perl in T2-7.0rc2 ISO for i486 is incomplete. how to fix tat ?
01:03 < d_oilen> a normal perl source recompilation does not work
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11:47 < Baldzius> moin
11:49 < mpp> moinsen
11:49 < Baldzius> hey mpp
11:51 < mpp> whats up ?
12:07 < Baldzius> nothing major, working :)
12:13 < mpp> k
12:19 < rxr> moin
12:20 < rxr> hm - interesting t-mobile appears to have a lower 3G latency (even on some crappy Sony m600i as "modem") than o2
12:20 < rxr> always thought the m600i proxy modem latency is that bad
12:20 < rxr> well - it's bad, just that o2 adds a little more to it ...
12:21 < rxr> hi all hi Baldzius and mpp
12:21 < rxr> oh - some more people on the t2 page, 137, now
12:21 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/
12:21 < Baldzius> hi rxr
12:21 < mpp> moinmoin
12:21 < mpp> schnee in gütersloh :-)
12:22 < rxr> in berlin not so much, had more snow yesterday
12:22 < mpp> jingle bell jingle bell ...
12:22 < mpp> :-)
12:23 < rxr> :_)
12:25 < CIA-4> mtr * r31326 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/uclibc.desc: * updated uclibc (0.9.30-rc3 -> 0.9.30)
12:25 < CIA-4> mtr * r31325 /trunk/package/lua/luasql/luasql.conf: * improved luasql to build all db backends available
12:26 < CIA-4> rene * r31327 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia/nvidia.desc:
12:26 < CIA-4> * re-un-commented nvidia aRchitecture tag, (accidently?) commented
12:26 < CIA-4> out in r29746
12:26 < rxr> mtr: you're in Lua, now ?
12:27 < mtr> hi rxr
12:27 < mpp> hey rxr - did the dl2 + dl3 offloaded the dl server somehow ?
12:27 < mpp> just curious
12:27 < rxr> I think so
12:28 < rxr> though I noticed just some days ago that the source downloads in Germany / EU still go very much to dl. ...
12:28 < rxr> how much traffic do you get ?
12:28 < mpp> i dunno to be hones
12:28 < mpp> what source downloads ?
12:29 < rxr> our source mirroring
12:29 < mpp> should i mirror the source dirs too
12:29 < mpp> oops
12:29 < mpp> forgot totally
12:29 < mpp> i'll have them synced asap
12:29 < mtr> rxr: I noticed that luasql only builds a single db backend, and doesn't check if other db are available
12:29 < rxr> mtr: have you neough HD space ?
12:30 < rxr> mpp: do you have enough hd space ?
12:30 < rxr> mpp: you use lua ß
12:30 < mpp> lua nope
12:30 < mpp> how much is the source tree ?
12:30 < rxr> err
12:30 < rxr> mtr: even :-)
12:31 < rxr> 3.8G 2.1
12:31 < rxr> 5.3G 6.0
12:31 < rxr> 6.0G 7.0
12:31 < rxr> 12G 8.0
12:31 < rxr> 27G total
12:32 < mpp> hm... okay
12:32 < mpp> is this this the mirror directory ?
12:32 < rxr> yes
12:32 < mpp> k
12:32 < mpp> i would be mirroring the 7.0 and 8.0
12:32 < rxr> but it would be best if we could set it up so that I push it using ssh+rsync as tot he other mirrors
12:33 < mpp> i'll have them synced first
12:33 < mpp> and report back when initial mirroring is done
12:33 < rxr> ok
12:35 < rxr> so - cu later
12:35 < mpp> which one of the existing mirrors is the fastest ?
12:35 < rxr> happy weekend
12:35 < mpp> dito
12:35 < rxr> ./scripts/Download -mirror auto
12:35 < rxr> INFO: Auto-detecting best mirror ...
12:35 < mpp> k
12:35 < mpp> bye
12:35 < rxr> mirror.gdnsinc.com (HTTP)> ... ok 20813.000 B/s
12:36 < rxr> from my 3G point of view :-)
12:36 < mtr> rxr: lua ss?
12:36 < rxr> (which would be faster if not the aging m600i would be the "modem")
12:37 < rxr> mtr: just wanted to know if you use Lua, these days ?
12:37 < mtr> no, not really, the Lua book still sits unread in my shelf ...
12:38 < rxr> ah :-(
12:38 < rxr> so - have a nice weekend to all of you
12:38 < rxr> cu
12:47 < mtr> thanks, the same to you
12:47 < mtr> cu
12:53 < CIA-4> mtr * r31328 /trunk/package/develop/libserial/libserial.conf: * fixed libserial build without python/sip
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14:54 < CIA-4> rene * r31329 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-block.conf.m4:
14:54 < CIA-4> * newer kernel no longser select io schedulers by default,
14:54 < CIA-4> select them explicitly
14:56 < CIA-4> rene * r31330 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/kernel.conf.m4:
14:56 < CIA-4> * newer kernel no longer select I2C_POWERPC support by default,
14:56 < CIA-4> select it to re-enable THERM-al options for fan control
14:56 < CIA-4> * don't select the WINDFARM, although it's buildable it's so far
14:56 < CIA-4> only in use for PowerPC64
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15:44 < bovnet> anyone here
15:47 < mpp> yep
15:50 < bovnet> just a quick Q
15:51 < bovnet> in the pkgsel config X includes what does the O do ?
15:53 < mpp> id deselects it
15:53 < bovnet> thats what i imagined
15:53 < bovnet> thanks
15:54 < mpp> np
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18:45 < koan> attr doesn't build here in trunk
18:45 < koan> looks like a conflict between attr and man-pages
18:45 < koan> btw rxr I've successfully installed your T2 iso on my G5, thanks!
18:46 < koan> I'm now building vim and some other essential tools :-)
18:46 < koan> and trying to configure X for my dual head setup
18:46 < koan> that seems to change with every release of X.Org
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19:03 < rxr> koan: yeah
19:03 < CIA-4> rene * r31331 /trunk/package/graphic/gimp/gimp.desc: * updated gimp (2.6.2 -> 2.6.3)
19:03 < CIA-4> rene * r31332 /trunk/package/develop/ksplice/ksplice.desc: * updated ksplice (0.9.3 -> 0.9.4)
19:03 < CIA-4> rene * r31333 /trunk/package/network/nginx/nginx.desc: * updated nginx (0.6.32 -> 0.6.33)
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20:17 < koan> hm I can't make anything of this build error: http://vervloesem.eu/temp/9-lididl.err
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22:14 < d_oilen> hello
22:16 < d_oilen> i solved the problem with autoconf not building. i wanted to post my findings but ...
22:17 < d_oilen> i could not do that
22:17 < d_oilen> now i have my own t2
22:17 < d_oilen> :)
22:26 < rxr> hi
22:27 < rxr> d_oilen: welcome
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22:27 < d_oilen> tnx
22:29 < d_oilen> how can i post my findings about incomplete perl and autoconf problems in t2-7.0-rc2?
22:29 < d_oilen> i tried subscribing to mail list but i was ranked 6.5 as spammer :))
22:29 < d_oilen> at least my server was ...
22:35 < CIA-4> rene * r31334 /trunk/package/mail/thunderbird/thunderbird.desc: * updated thunderbird (2.0.0.17 -> 2.0.0.18)
22:39 < CIA-4> rene * r31335 /trunk/package/www/dillo/ (dillo.cache dillo.desc fltk2.patch): * updated dillo (0.8.6 -> 2.0)
22:39 < rxr> mybe just drop the notes here
22:39 < rxr> or write me to my gmail address rene . rebe @ gmail . com
22:40 < rxr> and I'll post it
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22:58 < d_oilen> k
22:58 < d_oilen> i'll compile it and send it to you
23:00 < d_oilen> but normally you should update to rc3 because the usage of t2 is compromised without perl packages
23:16 < d_oilen> ok
23:16 < d_oilen> now
23:16 < d_oilen> basically there are three issues with t2 7.0-rc2
23:17 < d_oilen> 1. perl is incompletye in the minimal-486.iso image
23:17 < d_oilen> incomplete
23:18 < d_oilen> basically the Build-Target will stop at building autoconf due to the missing of Carp.pm
23:18 < d_oilen> but htere are also several other *.pm files missing in the default installation
23:19 < d_oilen> what i did is i downloaded perl from cpan and added by hand all the missing files
23:20 < d_oilen> 2. rsync will not build because the t2 7.0-rc2 will look for a version 2-x and mirror and the default url has 3.0x or something
23:21 < d_oilen> you should either fix with 3.0 in rc3 or add at the package description in the url after www.samba.org/ftp/rsync/ the src
23:21 < d_oilen> so the final url will look like this
23:21 < d_oilen> www.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/
23:22 < d_oilen> 3. due to yet unknown reasons the final iso is generated with two tracks T0 with 0 bytes length anf T1 with the actual image of the distribution i built
23:23 < d_oilen> so the default command cdrecord -speed=8 /dev/cdrom mydist-7.0-rc2.iso will burn a wrong disk
23:24 < d_oilen> curiously enough i was able to transfer the image and burn it corecly on a win32 machine with a cd burner software
23:25 < d_oilen> as a miscellanous issue mc is not building corecly on Emerge-pkg meaning that it almost builds it and installs a part of it but the result of the build is an error
23:26 < d_oilen> i will try to put all of these in a small howto for newbies ( like me) and then i will give it to you to post it onto the site
23:26 < d_oilen> thank you anyway for all the T2 big effort
23:27 < d_oilen> i intend to use it in my embedded x86 devices so i will try to post howto's as i go along ( if i am allowed of course)
23:57 < d_oilen> bye
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