--- Log opened Tue Sep 16 00:00:31 2008 00:48 -!- Enqlave [i=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 00:50 -!- mpp [n=user@i53876384.versanet.de] has joined #t2 00:55 -!- Wyatt [n=wyatt@adsl-69-208-55-235.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #t2 01:05 < Wyatt> Is there any way for me to specify the kde 3.5 series rather than the 4.1 series from within the curses Config? 01:07 < Ragnarin> no 01:12 < Wyatt> Bugger. I suppose I have to edit the packages file directly, then? 01:29 -!- Enqlave [i=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 01:36 < Ragnarin> you can 01:36 < Ragnarin> or make a kde3 copy of them, in case you want to have the best of both worlds 02:36 -!- mpp [n=user@i53876384.versanet.de] has quit ["good night - good fight"] 08:26 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 08:34 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 08:44 < rxr> re 09:16 -!- dsoul [i=darksoul@insomniac.pl] has joined #t2 09:30 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 09:35 -!- CIA-10 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 09:38 < mtr> moin 09:48 < rxr> hi mtr 09:57 < koan> is there somewhere a list of the minimum tools and header files you have to have on the build host to build t2 successfully? 09:57 < rxr> not really 09:58 < rxr> there is the Check-System script that checks the basic stuff 09:58 < rxr> the minimal tools are like bash, ncurses, binutils, gcc 09:58 < rxr> and the usual unix tools ... 09:58 < rxr> do you run in a new problem ? 09:58 < koan> squashfs-tools needed zlib-dev, it was not installed on Ubuntu 09:59 < koan> but looking at the err file thaught me what to install 09:59 < koan> it was an error like "zlib.h: file not found" 10:00 < rxr> we should update that on the homepage and/or handbook 10:01 < koan> speaking of which, I found some typos on the website, how do you like me to send back corrections? 10:02 < rxr> either by mail listing page paragraph and substitude 10:02 < rxr> or as patch against the source 10:02 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/www-t2/trunk/ 10:02 < koan> ok 10:03 < koan> I'll take a look when I have some time 10:06 -!- mpp [n=user@i53876384.versanet.de] has joined #t2 10:06 [Users #t2] 10:06 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur ] [ koan] [ mqueiros_] [ rxr ] 10:06 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ TobiX] 10:06 [ CIA-10 ] [ Enqlave] [ mpp ] [ Ragnarin ] [ Wyatt] 10:06 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 10:06 < mpp> moin 10:08 < rxr> hi mpp 10:10 < mpp> hey rxr 10:21 -!- CIA-10 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 10:21 < mpp> i think the kde packages cache files need to be updated (e.g kdearts ) 10:21 < mpp> im running an Emerge on clean host a diff the cache files 10:22 < rxr> yes, probably all due qt4 10:22 < mpp> im on it 10:22 < mpp> can i post the updated cache files somewhere 10:22 < mpp> there could be alot of them 10:22 < rxr> I also have decent kde cache files on my laptop - could commit them instantly 10:23 < mpp> that sounds great ! 10:23 < rxr> well - I have most cache files in my "building all of T2" reference builder 10:23 < rxr> I just wanted to write some script that updates them if something useful changed, e.g. to avoid random update just for a tine build time, size or file count change ... 10:24 < mpp> k 10:24 < rxr> and to warn about probably bogus deps, e.g. when some package looked for windows headers and thus depends on wine or so just becauee a header was accidently checked during configure 10:27 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 10:30 < mpp> can you apply http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tytso/ext4-patches/2.6.26-ext4-7 ? 10:30 < rxr> well - t2 is about clean and not so patched sources 10:30 < rxr> it will also be a pain to track for every new kernel release 10:30 < mpp> ah okay 10:30 < rxr> if you need it I suggest applying it in your target 10:30 < mpp> k 11:15 < mpp> is there a scripts within t2 that updates dep files from buil/target ? 11:15 < mpp> they are in build/target/var/adm/... right ? 11:30 < rxr> ot dep files but to update the .cache files 11:31 < mpp> yes thats what i meant - sorry 11:39 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 11:39 < rxr> I think there was some script the past from ROCK times, I do not find it right now, maybe it was so broken that we just removed it ... :-) 11:40 < mpp> it should be easy to make one 11:40 < mpp> the cache filenames are arcondingly to build/target/var/adm/cache/jobnr-package ... 11:40 < rxr> well -t he other script was "easy" 11:41 < mpp> so ... ? 11:41 < rxr> a smart script should check if the changes look sane and avoid random updates when just the build time or files changed marginally etc. 11:41 < rxr> btw. we are unlikly to add Ruby scripts to the t2 scripts 11:41 < rxr> future stuff will be bash, awk, sed, Lua only 11:41 < mpp> aknowledged 11:41 < rxr> we can not afford more dependencies ... 11:42 < rxr> (we already ship a Lua copy, so it's not a dependency, and it is small, ANSI C and fast) 11:45 < mpp> one could use a low footprint db to achieve those scriptings 11:45 < mpp> but anyways 11:46 < mpp> ill leave it this way 11:46 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 11:59 < koan> wget doesn't build if gettext isn't installed (needs msgfmt) 12:17 < koan> damn, I forgot this is a 32 bit Ubuntu, and building a 64 bit T2 on it gives problems with chroot 12:17 < koan> "chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error" 12:18 < rxr> you could copy the so far build system in build/... into an own partition and boot it 12:19 < koan> so it's already bootable? 12:19 < rxr> IIRC yes 12:19 < koan> ok 12:19 < koan> I'll try that 12:19 < rxr> t2 can completely cross compile completely useable systems including X and most of gnome etc. 12:20 < rxr> but you need to enable the "This is a cross build" option for this 12:20 < rxr> but IIRC the initially bootstrapped stuff ia already enough to boot 12:20 < rxr> oh - btw. either copy a root passwd hash into the build/.../etc/shadow or boot with init=/bin/bash to set it in the freshly booted 64bit system 12:20 < rxr> otherwise you will not be able to login :-) 12:22 < koan> :-) 12:24 < koan> ok thanks, now time for food :-) 12:25 < mpp> mahlzeit 12:26 < rxr> bon appetite 13:13 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@217.70.71.131] has quit [Client Quit] 13:41 < mpp> hey koan 13:42 < mpp> did you have successfull generic-50 builit ? 13:44 < mpp> there seems to be some regression stuff 13:44 < mpp> apart from kdearts -> qt4 13:44 < koan> I did a 10-minimal-xorg 13:45 < koan> no KDE for me :-) 13:45 < mpp> i see 13:45 < mpp> so the automoc4 is need for some stuff 13:46 < mpp> as i figured 14:19 < rxr> mpp: on my laptop kde4 build, despite some light shared file conflicts 14:19 < rxr> I think mtr updated it and fixed some stuff so it should have build for him, mostly, liekwsie 14:28 < mpp> i see 14:28 < mpp> i wrote a cache file merge / update 14:28 < mpp> i think after that run most dep stuff will be gone 14:29 < mpp> excep some wired x packages 14:30 < mpp> the merge checks if updating the cachefile is necessary 14:30 < mpp> so it will just freshen up the changed ones ( only deps are important ) 15:08 < mtr> the generic/minimal-desktop pkgsel is not kde4-ready 15:09 < mpp> no i know 15:09 < mtr> maybe we should drop the 3 kde packages in generic-minimal, 15:09 < mpp> ah i just stumbeled over cache file updates 15:09 < mtr> and include another wm instead 15:10 < mpp> they are quite different in the build than in the package directory 15:10 < mtr> yes, on trunk this likely happens 15:11 < mpp> so are they mergable ? 15:12 < mpp> i mean this would raise the cache files in the package directory consideralbe 15:12 -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: LMJ, axionix 15:12 -!- Netsplit over, joins: axionix, LMJ 15:36 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54A74F17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 15:36 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54A74F17.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #t2 [] 15:55 < mpp> are the .cache files in the package/.... used for building ? 16:15 < rxr> used for Emerge, yes 16:16 < rxr> targets have the static pkgsel files for various reasons 16:17 < rxr> enjoy: https://lists.launchpad.net/cuneiform/msg00058.html 16:23 < mpp> okay i read the section about the .cache files once agin 16:24 < mpp> with the /etc/SDE-CONFIG/packages one can partition t2-build hosts in terms of dependencies to for a parallel build cluster 16:24 < mpp> i guess.. 16:25 < mpp> this should be doable from stage 2 and upwards 16:26 < mpp> it makes sence when rebuilding a target of reasonable package amounts 16:26 < mpp> is there a tree-transformation script available for that purpose ? 16:27 < mpp> distc sure is fun but native t2 build cluster would kick the lamas a** 16:28 < mpp> sorry meant from stage 5 and upwards :-) 16:32 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54A74F17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 16:45 < koan> rxr: sounds like a nice program! 16:51 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 16:57 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54A74F17.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:44 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54A74F17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 17:48 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 17:58 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@217.70.71.131] has joined #t2 18:07 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54A74F17.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 18:35 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54A74F17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 18:48 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 18:55 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 18:57 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54A74F17.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:25 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54A74F17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 19:26 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@p54A74F17.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:49 -!- mpp_ [n=user@i5387769F.versanet.de] has joined #t2 19:51 -!- mpp [n=user@i53876384.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:53 -!- mpp_ is now known as mpp 20:27 -!- mpp [n=user@i5387769F.versanet.de] has quit ["good night - good fight"] 23:07 -!- axionix [n=axion@cpe-67-242-94-6.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:07 -!- axionix [n=axion@cpe-67-242-94-6.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 23:07 -!- mich1985 [n=mich1985@rtwl-5d8255d7.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #t2 23:08 < mich1985> hi all 23:41 -!- mich1985 [n=mich1985@rtwl-5d8255d7.pool.einsundeins.de] has left #t2 [] 23:57 -!- mpp [n=user@i5387769F.versanet.de] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Wed Sep 17 00:00:36 2008