T2 IRC Log: 2008-09-12
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--- Log opened Fri Sep 12 00:00:07 2008
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09:29 < mtr> moin
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09:58 < koan> good morning
10:29 < mtr> hi koan
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16:37 < mpp> moin
16:46 < koan> hi mpp
16:46 < mpp> zen !
16:46 < mpp> :-)
16:48 < mtr> hi mpp
16:48 < mpp> hey mtr *
16:48 < mpp> submitted some stuff to the ml
16:49 < mpp> maybe you can check them in + out ;-)
16:56 < mtr> did you test the rescue target with the udev patch? isn't it only the first part to get the md thing working?
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16:56 < Baldzius> moin
16:56 < mtr> hi Baldzius ;-)
16:56 < Baldzius> hey mtr
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16:58 < mpp> moin !
16:59 < mpp> md ?
16:59 < mpp> mtr
16:59 < mpp> the udev is necessary for the rescue target because there is no init/system script
16:59 < mpp> yes the udevd works in the rescue target
17:00 < mpp> i dropped the md stuff for booting a rootfs as rxr pointed out
17:00 < mpp> there are some issues with i
17:00 < mpp> anyways
17:00 < mpp> i test the patches and packages before sending them over to the ml
17:01 < mpp> got 2 vms as t2 building host :-)
17:02 < mpp> hey koan
17:02 < mpp> how did you generic-10 build go ?
17:03 < mpp> i set up a generic-50 build .
17:03 < koan> oh fine
17:03 < mpp> cool
17:03 < koan> I have just one error I'll have to investigate
17:03 < mpp> which one ?
17:03 < koan> http://pastebin.com/m73ecd7c6
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17:03 < mpp> so di i
17:04 < mpp> so do i :-)
17:04 < koan> :-)
17:04 < mpp> this is error is way back at leas a couple of weeks
17:04 < mpp> as always an earlier revision could help investigating
17:04 < mpp> yesterday i messed whit my local repos on 5 machines
17:05 < mpp> dvcs is fancy - and quiet adventerous
17:05 < koan> dvcs?
17:05 < mpp> distributed version control system
17:05 < mpp> do you have a local repo for testing patches
17:05 < koan> ah :-)
17:05 < mpp> i have one on 5 machines
17:06 < mpp> so i learned
17:06 < mpp> :-))
17:06 < koan> I just did a svn co of the t2-trunk on this machine
17:06 < mpp> the lesson of concurrency
17:06 < mpp> yep i merge the svn to my own
17:06 < koan> for the moment I'll keep it to one machine
17:07 < mpp> so i can patch packages and targets without beeing overwritten by svn
17:07 < koan> interesting
17:07 < mpp> yep that way i create packages / patches / targets
17:07 < mpp> the outcome is diff's for the svn which get mailed
17:21 < mpp> looks like python is a dependency which the most x packets need
17:23 < mtr> mpp: ah ok, I thought that udev is necessary to get your raid going
17:25 < mpp> nope its for sata usb devices etc
17:25 < koan> yes, xcb-proto was the first package where I saw it, but there were a lot of others
17:25 < mpp> so small deal
17:25 < mpp> ye i checked the 10-minimal target
17:25 < mpp> python is missing
17:25 < mpp> thats where all the problems origin
17:25 < mpp> i patched an x stuff builds now fine
17:26 < mpp> btw if you like you can have read access to my repo if you wanna try out stuff
17:26 < mpp> for testing etc
17:26 < mtr> hmm, /me wonders how the rescue cd worked before without udev ...
17:27 < mpp> cause at some point i guess rxr switched to minit
17:27 < mpp> after that probably no testing occured
17:27 < mpp> so thats why im here
17:27 < mpp> i will use the rescue target alot
17:27 < mpp> i have already a stripped down version
17:27 < mpp> loads faster
17:28 < mpp> etc.etc.etc
17:30 < mtr> ok, cool
17:31 < mpp> r21755
17:31 < mpp> there you go
17:31 < mtr> if you have something to test...
17:31 < mpp> ?
17:32 < mtr> that was 2007-01-06
17:32 < mpp> yea its bin a while
17:32 < mtr> and rescue target was born in r21730
17:32 < mpp> what do you mean to test ...
17:33 < mtr> your improvements to the resue target
17:33 < mtr> *recue
17:33 < mtr> **rescue
17:33 < mtr> :)
17:33 < mpp> because rxr is limiting the targets i can only offer my repo for testing
17:34 < mpp> so the mainline trunk stays as it is
17:34 < mpp> as i said ill open my dvcs up for read access
17:34 < mtr> do you have a patch against target/rescue?
17:34 < mpp> ahm ...
17:34 < mpp> i need to make the patch diffs still but yes of course
17:35 < mpp> so upstreaming works accurate
17:35 < mpp> ill have to say - that i kicked the x stuff out of the rescue cause they kinda serve another purpose
17:35 < mpp> ;-)
17:36 < mpp> i added german keyboard and dhcpcd - udhcp is broken atm
17:36 < mpp> minor stuff that fits my needs
17:37 < mpp> so when its ready ill drop a node
17:37 < mpp> note ;-)
17:37 < mtr> so you have a different belief what belongs to a "rescue" target, and removed X therefore
17:38 < mtr> rescue = pure and minimalistic ?
17:38 < mpp> kinda
17:38 < mpp> console
17:38 < mpp> btw the rescue cd worked because of ide cdrom
17:38 < mpp> which is loaded from the kernel to dev
17:39 < mpp> so udev is not necessary for the cd to boot and mount
17:39 < mtr> and your booting from usb now?
17:39 < mpp> anyways
17:39 < mpp> yep
17:39 < mpp> usb and pxe
17:39 < mpp> these are the main things i deal with the rescue target
17:40 < mpp> i modified minit fgetty so the first console goes straight to prompt
17:40 < mpp> you know for server provisioning etc.
17:40 < mtr> hmm, ok, for pxe reducing the final image size makes sense
17:40 < mtr> but for usb/cd the some MB's should not matter
17:41 < mpp> well its okay nowadays but who needs the x stuff in it really ?
17:41 < mpp> i mean its rescue -
17:41 < mtr> maybe we could introduce a build option in target/rescue/config.in
17:41 < mpp> now that makes sence
17:41 < mpp> could have thought of it earlier
17:41 < mpp> thanx
17:41 < mtr> sometimes it may be helpful to have X + Browser
17:41 < mpp> sometimes...
17:42 < mpp> all i need is the air that i breathe LOL
17:42 < mtr> :)
17:43 < mpp> for the rescue target very important : dropbear
17:43 < mpp> so i can hook up with my drowned root-server
17:43 < mpp> :-)
17:44 < mtr> yes, I understand - but desktop-rescue has different needs
17:44 < mpp> koan now that i added python to the minimal x - x packest building just fine
17:45 < mpp> so we should adjust the generic option for x
17:45 < mpp> mtr
17:45 < mpp> python is missing and x packets won't build
17:52 < mtr> I have to leave now, cu
18:00 < mpp> okay bye
18:57 < mpp> my minit udev patch breaks udev package build
18:57 < mpp> dropped that change
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21:45 < CIA-8> aldas * r30436 /trunk/package/audio/pulseaudio/pulseaudio.desc: * updated pulseaudio (0.9.11 -> 0.9.12)
21:45 < CIA-8> aldas * r30437 /trunk/package/security/nmap/nmap.desc: * updated nmap (4.68 -> 4.76)
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22:56 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ koan ] [ Ragnarin]
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09:29 < mtr> moin
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09:58 < koan> good morning
10:29 < mtr> hi koan
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16:37 < mpp> moin
16:46 < koan> hi mpp
16:46 < mpp> zen !
16:46 < mpp> :-)
16:48 < mtr> hi mpp
16:48 < mpp> hey mtr *
16:48 < mpp> submitted some stuff to the ml
16:49 < mpp> maybe you can check them in + out ;-)
16:56 < mtr> did you test the rescue target with the udev patch? isn't it only the first part to get the md thing working?
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16:56 < Baldzius> moin
16:56 < mtr> hi Baldzius ;-)
16:56 < Baldzius> hey mtr
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16:58 < mpp> moin !
16:59 < mpp> md ?
16:59 < mpp> mtr
16:59 < mpp> the udev is necessary for the rescue target because there is no init/system script
16:59 < mpp> yes the udevd works in the rescue target
17:00 < mpp> i dropped the md stuff for booting a rootfs as rxr pointed out
17:00 < mpp> there are some issues with i
17:00 < mpp> anyways
17:00 < mpp> i test the patches and packages before sending them over to the ml
17:01 < mpp> got 2 vms as t2 building host :-)
17:02 < mpp> hey koan
17:02 < mpp> how did you generic-10 build go ?
17:03 < mpp> i set up a generic-50 build .
17:03 < koan> oh fine
17:03 < mpp> cool
17:03 < koan> I have just one error I'll have to investigate
17:03 < mpp> which one ?
17:03 < koan> http://pastebin.com/m73ecd7c6
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17:03 < mpp> so di i
17:04 < mpp> so do i :-)
17:04 < koan> :-)
17:04 < mpp> this is error is way back at leas a couple of weeks
17:04 < mpp> as always an earlier revision could help investigating
17:04 < mpp> yesterday i messed whit my local repos on 5 machines
17:05 < mpp> dvcs is fancy - and quiet adventerous
17:05 < koan> dvcs?
17:05 < mpp> distributed version control system
17:05 < mpp> do you have a local repo for testing patches
17:05 < koan> ah :-)
17:05 < mpp> i have one on 5 machines
17:06 < mpp> so i learned
17:06 < mpp> :-))
17:06 < koan> I just did a svn co of the t2-trunk on this machine
17:06 < mpp> the lesson of concurrency
17:06 < mpp> yep i merge the svn to my own
17:06 < koan> for the moment I'll keep it to one machine
17:07 < mpp> so i can patch packages and targets without beeing overwritten by svn
17:07 < koan> interesting
17:07 < mpp> yep that way i create packages / patches / targets
17:07 < mpp> the outcome is diff's for the svn which get mailed
17:21 < mpp> looks like python is a dependency which the most x packets need
17:23 < mtr> mpp: ah ok, I thought that udev is necessary to get your raid going
17:25 < mpp> nope its for sata usb devices etc
17:25 < koan> yes, xcb-proto was the first package where I saw it, but there were a lot of others
17:25 < mpp> so small deal
17:25 < mpp> ye i checked the 10-minimal target
17:25 < mpp> python is missing
17:25 < mpp> thats where all the problems origin
17:25 < mpp> i patched an x stuff builds now fine
17:26 < mpp> btw if you like you can have read access to my repo if you wanna try out stuff
17:26 < mpp> for testing etc
17:26 < mtr> hmm, /me wonders how the rescue cd worked before without udev ...
17:27 < mpp> cause at some point i guess rxr switched to minit
17:27 < mpp> after that probably no testing occured
17:27 < mpp> so thats why im here
17:27 < mpp> i will use the rescue target alot
17:27 < mpp> i have already a stripped down version
17:27 < mpp> loads faster
17:28 < mpp> etc.etc.etc
17:30 < mtr> ok, cool
17:31 < mpp> r21755
17:31 < mpp> there you go
17:31 < mtr> if you have something to test...
17:31 < mpp> ?
17:32 < mtr> that was 2007-01-06
17:32 < mpp> yea its bin a while
17:32 < mtr> and rescue target was born in r21730
17:32 < mpp> what do you mean to test ...
17:33 < mtr> your improvements to the resue target
17:33 < mtr> *recue
17:33 < mtr> **rescue
17:33 < mtr> :)
17:33 < mpp> because rxr is limiting the targets i can only offer my repo for testing
17:34 < mpp> so the mainline trunk stays as it is
17:34 < mpp> as i said ill open my dvcs up for read access
17:34 < mtr> do you have a patch against target/rescue?
17:34 < mpp> ahm ...
17:34 < mpp> i need to make the patch diffs still but yes of course
17:35 < mpp> so upstreaming works accurate
17:35 < mpp> ill have to say - that i kicked the x stuff out of the rescue cause they kinda serve another purpose
17:35 < mpp> ;-)
17:36 < mpp> i added german keyboard and dhcpcd - udhcp is broken atm
17:36 < mpp> minor stuff that fits my needs
17:37 < mpp> so when its ready ill drop a node
17:37 < mpp> note ;-)
17:37 < mtr> so you have a different belief what belongs to a "rescue" target, and removed X therefore
17:38 < mtr> rescue = pure and minimalistic ?
17:38 < mpp> kinda
17:38 < mpp> console
17:38 < mpp> btw the rescue cd worked because of ide cdrom
17:38 < mpp> which is loaded from the kernel to dev
17:39 < mpp> so udev is not necessary for the cd to boot and mount
17:39 < mtr> and your booting from usb now?
17:39 < mpp> anyways
17:39 < mpp> yep
17:39 < mpp> usb and pxe
17:39 < mpp> these are the main things i deal with the rescue target
17:40 < mpp> i modified minit fgetty so the first console goes straight to prompt
17:40 < mpp> you know for server provisioning etc.
17:40 < mtr> hmm, ok, for pxe reducing the final image size makes sense
17:40 < mtr> but for usb/cd the some MB's should not matter
17:41 < mpp> well its okay nowadays but who needs the x stuff in it really ?
17:41 < mpp> i mean its rescue -
17:41 < mtr> maybe we could introduce a build option in target/rescue/config.in
17:41 < mpp> now that makes sence
17:41 < mpp> could have thought of it earlier
17:41 < mpp> thanx
17:41 < mtr> sometimes it may be helpful to have X + Browser
17:41 < mpp> sometimes...
17:42 < mpp> all i need is the air that i breathe LOL
17:42 < mtr> :)
17:43 < mpp> for the rescue target very important : dropbear
17:43 < mpp> so i can hook up with my drowned root-server
17:43 < mpp> :-)
17:44 < mtr> yes, I understand - but desktop-rescue has different needs
17:44 < mpp> koan now that i added python to the minimal x - x packest building just fine
17:45 < mpp> so we should adjust the generic option for x
17:45 < mpp> mtr
17:45 < mpp> python is missing and x packets won't build
17:52 < mtr> I have to leave now, cu
18:00 < mpp> okay bye
18:57 < mpp> my minit udev patch breaks udev package build
18:57 < mpp> dropped that change
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21:45 < CIA-8> aldas * r30436 /trunk/package/audio/pulseaudio/pulseaudio.desc: * updated pulseaudio (0.9.11 -> 0.9.12)
21:45 < CIA-8> aldas * r30437 /trunk/package/security/nmap/nmap.desc: * updated nmap (4.68 -> 4.76)
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22:56 [Users #t2]
22:56 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-8 ] [ felanha] [ mtr ] [ TobiX]
22:56 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ koan ] [ Ragnarin]
22:56 [ Baldzius] [ Enqlave] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ]
22:56 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
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