T2 IRC Log: 2008-04-24
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--- Log opened Thu Apr 24 00:00:09 2008
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00:08 < rxr> re
00:12 < CIA-4> rene * r28839 /trunk/package/x11/openbox/openbox.desc: * updated openbox (3.4.7.1 -> 3.4.7.2)
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07:40 < magas> hi
07:40 < magas> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3786603 2008-04-23 14:37 vmlinux_2.6.25-dist
07:40 < magas> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1459828 2008-04-23 14:37 vmlinuz_2.6.25-dist
07:40 < magas> why i have 2 kernels in /boot directory ?
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09:39 < mtr> moin
09:41 < rxr> moin
09:43 < mtr> hi rxr
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09:50 < rxr> hey mtr
09:59 < CIA-4> mtr * r28840 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
09:59 < CIA-4> * fixed dhcp package:
09:59 < CIA-4> - install with prefix "/" to make dhclient/dhclient-script work
09:59 < CIA-4> - use standard confopt's to enable cross-builds
09:59 < CIA-4> - added ac_cv_file__dev_random=yes to the default configure cache options
10:01 < rxr> thanks mtr
10:04 < rxr> mtr: any reason you put the ac_cv_file__dev_random into the global cache and not just inject it in the dhcp package ?
10:05 < CIA-4> rene * r28841 /trunk/package/filesystem/sshfs/sshfs.desc: * updated sshfs (1.9 -> 2.0)
10:06 < CIA-4> rene * r28842 /trunk/package/editors/elvis-tiny/elvis-tiny.desc: * updated elvis-tiny (1.4-20 -> 1.4-21)
10:06 < CIA-4> rene * r28843 /trunk/package/network/collectd/collectd.desc: * updated collectd (4.3.2 -> 4.3.3)
10:06 < CIA-4> rene * r28844 /trunk/package/network/libidn/libidn.desc: * updated libidn (1.7 -> 1.8)
10:07 < CIA-4> rene * r28845 /trunk/package/gnome2/gst-plugins-good/gst-plugins-good.desc: * updated gst-plugins-good (0.10.7 -> 0.10.8)
10:16 < mtr> rxr: the global cache already has ac_cv_file___dev_urandom_=yes, so I thought it would best fit there
10:20 < rxr> ah - ok
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12:12 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur ] [ Enqlave] [ markus ] [ tfl0pz ] [ |beowulf|]
12:12 [ __init__] [ dogmeat] [ hwinke1] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ]
12:12 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin]
12:12 [ CIA-4 ] [ elias` ] [ magas ] [ rxr ] [ youshe ]
12:12 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal]
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14:05 < magas> When a Linux kernel is built by the T2 build system the generic initrd is automatically generated
14:05 < magas> ls boot/
14:05 < magas> grub kconfig_2.6.25-dist System.map_2.6.25-dist t2.xpm.gz vmlinux_2.6.25-dist vmlinuz_2.6.25-dist
14:06 < magas> where initrd ?
14:09 < rxr> only if you enable some packages required for the initrd, that is mkinitrd, and usually some more tiny tools used by our default initrd impementation
14:09 < rxr> (pdksh, minised, diskutil)
14:10 < magas> i compiled image (tlx), but cannot but
14:10 < magas> boot
14:11 < magas> Unable to mount root fs
14:11 < magas> my / in /dev/hda1
14:12 < rxr> by default as much as possible is modular in the t2 kernel you proably need to add ext2/3 etc. to your kernel config for the file-system you have your system on
14:13 < magas> i use ext3
14:14 < magas> and compiled ext3 in the kernel
14:24 < rxr> do you specify the correct rootfs device node ?
14:24 < rxr> root= ... ?
14:25 < rxr> is the IDE ? CF ? recognized ?
14:25 < rxr> maybe no matching IDE module built-in `
14:25 < magas> yes , root=/dev/hda1
14:25 < magas> CF card with IDE adapter
14:25 < magas> i need to create /dev/hda1 manualy ? with mknode ?
14:26 < rxr> nope, if it the driver is built-in the kernel you do not need to
14:29 < magas> where is default t2 kernel config ?
14:30 < magas> or t2 use vanilla kernel config ?
14:32 < rxr> t2 accumulates the rules from architecture/*/kernel*
14:32 < rxr> there is one for each cpu architecture, and each usually includes a bunch of architecture/shared/... ones
14:33 < rxr> and then we run a "no2modconfig" pass, which switches all not yet enabled to module
14:33 < magas> but i can use my own in the target/../kernel.conf ?
14:33 < rxr> but as you have your own config already? you could just add the ide stuff you need there
14:33 < rxr> of course you can supply your own fixed config
14:34 < rxr> the t2 default is just "built-in what is needed for the arch, and everyhing else possible as module", to have "works everywhere" kernel's for the regular desktop and server builds
14:35 < magas> cat target/iptv/linux.conf | grep EXT3
14:35 < magas> CONFIG_EXT3_FS=y
14:36 < magas> linux.conf or kernel.conf ? :)
14:37 < rxr> you can check your resulting config from build/.../boot/kconfig_$ver ...
14:37 < rxr> kernel.conf
14:39 < magas> thanks, now i see where is the fault
14:44 < CIA-4> aldas * r28846 /trunk/package/network/nessus/ (gcc4.patch.nessus-core nessus.desc): * updated nessus (2.2.9 -> 2.3.1)
14:46 < CIA-4> rene * r28847 /trunk/package/gnome2/evince/evince.desc: * updated evince (2.22.1 -> 2.22.1.1)
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17:52 [Users #t2]
17:52 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-4 ] [ dsoul ] [ magas ] [ Ragnar|away] [ TobiX ]
17:52 [ __init__] [ Dallur ] [ Enqlave] [ markus] [ rxr ] [ youshe ]
17:52 [ axionix ] [ dogmeat] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ tfl0pz ] [ |beowulf|]
17:52 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal]
17:53 < CIA-4> rene * r28848 /trunk/package/gnome2/gedit-plugins/gedit-plugins.desc: * updated gedit-plugins (2.22.1 -> 2.22.2)
18:08 < CIA-4> rene * r28849 /trunk/package/develop/php4/ (. apsx-fix.patch errno.patch php4.cache php4.conf php4.desc): * re-added php4 (4.3.10 -> 4.4.8), copy from r5089, as required in a project
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19:43 < CIA-4> rene * r28850 /trunk/package/develop/ksplice/ (. ksplice.cache ksplice.desc): * added ksplice (0.8.1) - Rebootless Linux kernel security updates
19:47 < CIA-4> rene * r28851 /trunk/package/develop/ksplice/ksplice.desc: * improved Author and added Url tag to ksplice
19:54 < markus> Hello.
19:55 < markus> I used OSK5912 today and tried to install some kind of linux system on it. I have never tried that before.
19:55 < markus> Are you familiar with OSK5912?
19:55 < markus> Just wondering.
19:57 < rxr> nope /me googling
19:57 [Users #t2]
19:57 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur ] [ hwinkel] [ mqueiros ] [ tfl0pz ]
19:57 [ __init__] [ dogmeat] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ]
19:57 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ magas ] [ Ragnar|away] [ youshe ]
19:57 [ CIA-4 ] [ Enqlave] [ markus ] [ rxr ] [ |beowulf|]
19:57 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal]
19:58 < rxr> with the CPU yes, with that specific board, no
19:58 < markus> What hardware have you used then?
19:59 < rxr> in client hw. projects
20:00 < rxr> that's board's price tag is quite ok :-)
20:01 < markus> yes :)
20:02 < markus> it comes with montavista linux
20:31 < rxr> yeah - I can imagine
20:31 < rxr> of course you can use T2 to build your custom flavour
20:43 < markus> Mhmmm, that's a possibility. Dunno if i have time... but maybe i should try it.
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00:08 < rxr> re
00:12 < CIA-4> rene * r28839 /trunk/package/x11/openbox/openbox.desc: * updated openbox (3.4.7.1 -> 3.4.7.2)
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07:40 < magas> hi
07:40 < magas> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3786603 2008-04-23 14:37 vmlinux_2.6.25-dist
07:40 < magas> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1459828 2008-04-23 14:37 vmlinuz_2.6.25-dist
07:40 < magas> why i have 2 kernels in /boot directory ?
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09:39 < mtr> moin
09:41 < rxr> moin
09:43 < mtr> hi rxr
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09:50 < rxr> hey mtr
09:59 < CIA-4> mtr * r28840 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
09:59 < CIA-4> * fixed dhcp package:
09:59 < CIA-4> - install with prefix "/" to make dhclient/dhclient-script work
09:59 < CIA-4> - use standard confopt's to enable cross-builds
09:59 < CIA-4> - added ac_cv_file__dev_random=yes to the default configure cache options
10:01 < rxr> thanks mtr
10:04 < rxr> mtr: any reason you put the ac_cv_file__dev_random into the global cache and not just inject it in the dhcp package ?
10:05 < CIA-4> rene * r28841 /trunk/package/filesystem/sshfs/sshfs.desc: * updated sshfs (1.9 -> 2.0)
10:06 < CIA-4> rene * r28842 /trunk/package/editors/elvis-tiny/elvis-tiny.desc: * updated elvis-tiny (1.4-20 -> 1.4-21)
10:06 < CIA-4> rene * r28843 /trunk/package/network/collectd/collectd.desc: * updated collectd (4.3.2 -> 4.3.3)
10:06 < CIA-4> rene * r28844 /trunk/package/network/libidn/libidn.desc: * updated libidn (1.7 -> 1.8)
10:07 < CIA-4> rene * r28845 /trunk/package/gnome2/gst-plugins-good/gst-plugins-good.desc: * updated gst-plugins-good (0.10.7 -> 0.10.8)
10:16 < mtr> rxr: the global cache already has ac_cv_file___dev_urandom_=yes, so I thought it would best fit there
10:20 < rxr> ah - ok
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12:12 [Users #t2]
12:12 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur ] [ Enqlave] [ markus ] [ tfl0pz ] [ |beowulf|]
12:12 [ __init__] [ dogmeat] [ hwinke1] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ]
12:12 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin]
12:12 [ CIA-4 ] [ elias` ] [ magas ] [ rxr ] [ youshe ]
12:12 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal]
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14:05 < magas> When a Linux kernel is built by the T2 build system the generic initrd is automatically generated
14:05 < magas> ls boot/
14:05 < magas> grub kconfig_2.6.25-dist System.map_2.6.25-dist t2.xpm.gz vmlinux_2.6.25-dist vmlinuz_2.6.25-dist
14:06 < magas> where initrd ?
14:09 < rxr> only if you enable some packages required for the initrd, that is mkinitrd, and usually some more tiny tools used by our default initrd impementation
14:09 < rxr> (pdksh, minised, diskutil)
14:10 < magas> i compiled image (tlx), but cannot but
14:10 < magas> boot
14:11 < magas> Unable to mount root fs
14:11 < magas> my / in /dev/hda1
14:12 < rxr> by default as much as possible is modular in the t2 kernel you proably need to add ext2/3 etc. to your kernel config for the file-system you have your system on
14:13 < magas> i use ext3
14:14 < magas> and compiled ext3 in the kernel
14:24 < rxr> do you specify the correct rootfs device node ?
14:24 < rxr> root= ... ?
14:25 < rxr> is the IDE ? CF ? recognized ?
14:25 < rxr> maybe no matching IDE module built-in `
14:25 < magas> yes , root=/dev/hda1
14:25 < magas> CF card with IDE adapter
14:25 < magas> i need to create /dev/hda1 manualy ? with mknode ?
14:26 < rxr> nope, if it the driver is built-in the kernel you do not need to
14:29 < magas> where is default t2 kernel config ?
14:30 < magas> or t2 use vanilla kernel config ?
14:32 < rxr> t2 accumulates the rules from architecture/*/kernel*
14:32 < rxr> there is one for each cpu architecture, and each usually includes a bunch of architecture/shared/... ones
14:33 < rxr> and then we run a "no2modconfig" pass, which switches all not yet enabled to module
14:33 < magas> but i can use my own in the target/../kernel.conf ?
14:33 < rxr> but as you have your own config already? you could just add the ide stuff you need there
14:33 < rxr> of course you can supply your own fixed config
14:34 < rxr> the t2 default is just "built-in what is needed for the arch, and everyhing else possible as module", to have "works everywhere" kernel's for the regular desktop and server builds
14:35 < magas> cat target/iptv/linux.conf | grep EXT3
14:35 < magas> CONFIG_EXT3_FS=y
14:36 < magas> linux.conf or kernel.conf ? :)
14:37 < rxr> you can check your resulting config from build/.../boot/kconfig_$ver ...
14:37 < rxr> kernel.conf
14:39 < magas> thanks, now i see where is the fault
14:44 < CIA-4> aldas * r28846 /trunk/package/network/nessus/ (gcc4.patch.nessus-core nessus.desc): * updated nessus (2.2.9 -> 2.3.1)
14:46 < CIA-4> rene * r28847 /trunk/package/gnome2/evince/evince.desc: * updated evince (2.22.1 -> 2.22.1.1)
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17:52 [Users #t2]
17:52 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-4 ] [ dsoul ] [ magas ] [ Ragnar|away] [ TobiX ]
17:52 [ __init__] [ Dallur ] [ Enqlave] [ markus] [ rxr ] [ youshe ]
17:52 [ axionix ] [ dogmeat] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ tfl0pz ] [ |beowulf|]
17:52 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal]
17:53 < CIA-4> rene * r28848 /trunk/package/gnome2/gedit-plugins/gedit-plugins.desc: * updated gedit-plugins (2.22.1 -> 2.22.2)
18:08 < CIA-4> rene * r28849 /trunk/package/develop/php4/ (. apsx-fix.patch errno.patch php4.cache php4.conf php4.desc): * re-added php4 (4.3.10 -> 4.4.8), copy from r5089, as required in a project
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19:43 < CIA-4> rene * r28850 /trunk/package/develop/ksplice/ (. ksplice.cache ksplice.desc): * added ksplice (0.8.1) - Rebootless Linux kernel security updates
19:47 < CIA-4> rene * r28851 /trunk/package/develop/ksplice/ksplice.desc: * improved Author and added Url tag to ksplice
19:54 < markus> Hello.
19:55 < markus> I used OSK5912 today and tried to install some kind of linux system on it. I have never tried that before.
19:55 < markus> Are you familiar with OSK5912?
19:55 < markus> Just wondering.
19:57 < rxr> nope /me googling
19:57 [Users #t2]
19:57 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur ] [ hwinkel] [ mqueiros ] [ tfl0pz ]
19:57 [ __init__] [ dogmeat] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ]
19:57 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ magas ] [ Ragnar|away] [ youshe ]
19:57 [ CIA-4 ] [ Enqlave] [ markus ] [ rxr ] [ |beowulf|]
19:57 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal]
19:58 < rxr> with the CPU yes, with that specific board, no
19:58 < markus> What hardware have you used then?
19:59 < rxr> in client hw. projects
20:00 < rxr> that's board's price tag is quite ok :-)
20:01 < markus> yes :)
20:02 < markus> it comes with montavista linux
20:31 < rxr> yeah - I can imagine
20:31 < rxr> of course you can use T2 to build your custom flavour
20:43 < markus> Mhmmm, that's a possibility. Dunno if i have time... but maybe i should try it.
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