--- Log opened Fri Apr 11 00:00:57 2008 00:46 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@62.12.11.105] has joined #t2 01:38 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@62.12.11.105] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:29 -!- jeffdamet1 [n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-062-076.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has left #t2 [] 05:24 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit ["Dont wait to die to find paradise..."] 07:27 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@62.12.11.136] has joined #t2 07:40 < rxr> moin 08:42 < CIA-4> rene * r28671 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgda/libgda.desc: * updated libgda (3.0.3 -> 3.0.4) 08:42 < CIA-4> rene * r28672 /trunk/package/network/dbus/dbus.desc: * updated dbus (1.0.3 -> 1.2.1) 08:46 < CIA-4> rene * r28673 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/lvm2.desc: * updated lvm2 (2.02.33 -> 2.02.34) 08:46 < CIA-4> rene * r28674 /trunk/package/x11/mesa/mesa.desc: * updated mesa (7.0.2 -> 7.0.3) 08:47 < CIA-4> rene * r28675 /trunk/package/x11/mesa-demos/mesa-demos.desc: * updated mesa-demos (7.0.2 -> 7.0.3) 08:47 < CIA-4> rene * r28676 /trunk/package/network/libidn/libidn.desc: * updated libidn (1.6 -> 1.7) 09:19 -!- |beowulf| [i=1014@sourcemage/mage/beowulf] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:20 -!- |beowulf| [i=1014@ente.hawo.stw.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #t2 09:46 < CIA-4> rene * r28677 /trunk/package/security/strongswan/strongswan.desc: * updated strongswan (4.1.11 -> 4.2.0) 09:59 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@62.12.11.136] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:04 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@62.12.12.3] has joined #t2 11:14 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@62.12.12.3] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:58 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: sparc-kly_, LMJ, __init__, hoss10123, Ragnar|away, @ChanServ, dsoul, valentin, TobiX, mqueiros_, (+2 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 11:58 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@81.200.8.213] has joined #t2 11:58 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@81.200.8.213] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:58 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@81.200.8.213] has joined #t2 11:58 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@81.200.8.213] has quit [Client Quit] 11:59 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@81.200.8.213] has joined #t2 11:59 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ChanServ 11:59 -!- bfg [n=bfg@ppp121-45-235-74.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net] has joined #t2 11:59 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mqueiros_, hoss10123, valentin, Ragnar|away, sparc-kly_, Dallur, LMJ, __init__, dogmeat, TobiX (+1 more) 11:59 -!- ServerMode/#t2 [+o ChanServ] by irc.freenode.net 11:59 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@81.200.8.213] has quit [Client Quit] 11:59 -!- CIA-53 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 12:00 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 12:02 < CIA-4> gweis * r28678 /trunk/package/multimedia/ffmpeg/ffmpeg.conf: * fixed configure parameters for xiv, x264, faac and faad 12:03 -!- CIA-4 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 12:31 < |beowulf|> INIT: version 2.86 booting 12:31 < |beowulf|> INIT: Entering runlevel: 2 12:31 < |beowulf|> ** running rc script ** 12:31 < |beowulf|> RC: Previous runlevel: N, new runlevel: 2. 12:31 < |beowulf|> RC: Enter runlevel 2 ... 12:31 < |beowulf|> Mounting /dev/shm and /dev/pts. v 12:32 < |beowulf|> mkdir: cannot create directory `/dev/shm': Read-only file system 12:32 < |beowulf|> mount: mount point /dev/shm does not exist 12:32 < |beowulf|> mkdir: cannot create directory `/dev/pts': Read-only file system :-( 12:32 < |beowulf|> Configuring the /dev filesystem ... v 12:32 < |beowulf|> ln: creating symbolic link `mouse': Read-only file system 12:32 < |beowulf|> rm: cannot remove `fd': Read-only file system 12:32 < |beowulf|> ln: creating symbolic link `core': Read-only file system 12:32 < |beowulf|> ln: cannot remove `fd': Read-only file system 12:32 < |beowulf|> ln: creating symbolic link `stdin': Read-only file system 12:32 < |beowulf|> ln: creating symbolic link `stdout': Read-only file system 12:32 < |beowulf|> ln: creating symbolic link `stderr': Read-only file system 12:32 < |beowulf|> is this supposed to happen? 13:31 < tfl0pz> moin 13:31 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit ["Dont wait to die to find paradise..."] 13:35 -!- bfg [n=bfg@ppp121-45-235-74.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net] has quit ["Kopete 0.11.1 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 13:35 < tfl0pz> is t2 using /var/run/sendsigs.omit? 13:43 -!- bfg [n=bfg@ppp121-45-235-74.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net] has joined #t2 15:06 < |beowulf|> rxr: are you there? 16:26 < CIA-53> rene * r28679 /trunk/package/gnome2/tomboy/tomboy.desc: * updated tomboy (0.10.0 -> 0.10.1) 16:26 < CIA-53> rene * r28680 /trunk/package/network/tntnet/tntnet.desc: * updated tntnet (1.6.1.1 -> 1.6.1.3) 16:27 < rxr> re 16:27 < rxr> |beowulf|: I guess you use no initrd ? 16:34 < |beowulf|> no initrd, no 16:34 < |beowulf|> the kernel doesn't even have modules 16:38 < rxr> you either need to have some tmpfs entry for /dev in your fstab for the device notes of udev to be creatable ... 16:38 < rxr> I guess 99% of us right now use initrd populating a /dev tmpfs before the main syste mboots ... 16:44 < |beowulf|> dev /dev tmpfs defaults 0 0 <-- will that line in fstab do? 16:45 < rxr> you had it already? 16:45 < |beowulf|> no, just created it... 16:46 < rxr> I just looked at the system init script 16:46 < rxr> I fear it might not yet work anyway 16:47 < rxr> the udevd start woudl need to be moved on top with an explicit /dev mount ... 16:47 < |beowulf|> any reason why it isn't at the top already? 16:48 < rxr> because the deault initrd sets it up for root device mounting with modular kernels 16:48 < rxr> and we just restart udevd from the system then after the filesystem mount and check 16:48 < rxr> guess noone cared so far due fully modular use with initrd these days 17:29 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@87.198.192.226] has joined #t2 17:29 < Baldzius> moin 17:39 < rxr> h ib 17:41 < rxr> hi Baldzius even 17:41 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 17:42 < Baldzius> hi rxr 19:37 -!- hoss10123 [n=hoss1012@pix-osh-primary.oracular.com] has quit ["peace out"] 19:39 < |beowulf|> rxr: is it sufficient to just call 'mkinitrd 2.6.23-rc3' to build the initrd? 19:48 < rxr> should be 20:11 < |beowulf|> rxr: http://www.hawo.stw.uni-erlangen.de/~siflfran/qube.1.log <-- any idea what's going wrong here? 20:15 < rxr> probably mostly the not setup udev causing tons of trailing issues 20:15 < rxr> you have not yet got the udev thing work arounded, hm ? 20:17 < |beowulf|> I created an initrd and hoped that would solve it -- but I'm not even sure it's being used 20:19 < rxr> you have not specified it in your boot loader thingy ? 20:19 < rxr> anyway 20:19 < rxr> just leave that alone then 20:19 < rxr> try that: 20:19 < rxr> http://people.exactcode.de/~rene/t2-no-initrd.patch 20:20 * rxr crossing fingers 20:22 < |beowulf|> hm, I don't think I can specify it in the bootloader 20:22 < |beowulf|> at least not so that it is persistent 20:23 < rxr> ok - then try that patch :-) 20:31 < |beowulf|> rxr: http://www.hawo.stw.uni-erlangen.de/~siflfran/qube.2.log <-- I think /proc isn't mounted yet at that time 20:39 < rxr> is your root on an MD? 20:42 < rxr> ah - sorry the root is mounted at that time 20:42 < |beowulf|> root is an md, yes 20:43 < rxr> the first stray errors are harmless 20:44 < rxr> the proc due to hotplug execution disabling (due using netlink with udev) 20:44 < rxr> and the killall likewise, udevd is not running yet anyway (as oppost to comming form an initrd) 20:44 < rxr> the dev/console stuff is probably just from the logging 20:45 < rxr> can you try to use a device-node identifer for the rootfs in the fstab instead the UUID ? 20:45 < |beowulf|> I'll try... 20:45 < rxr> also a cat /proc/mounts 20:46 < rxr> after the udevd start and the /dev/shm and pts mounts ... 20:46 < |beowulf|> you mean in the system script? 20:46 < rxr> yes 20:53 < |beowulf|> rxr: cat: /proc/mounts: No such file or directory 20:54 < rxr> ah - damn 20:54 < rxr> I guess we uregently should re-improve non initrd support 20:54 < rxr> + mount -n /sys 20:54 < rxr> + mount -n /proc 20:54 < rxr> before mount -n /dev 20:54 < rxr> sorry ... 20:55 < rxr> in the good old days T2 was pure non-initrd (initrd what the heck do we want with that) 20:55 * |beowulf| never used an initrd before today 20:55 < rxr> now that we have fully automatic, and fully modular initrd support we just ignored non-initrd support majorly ... 20:55 < rxr> sorry 20:55 < rxr> I'll fix that in trunk when we got your cube going .-) 20:56 < rxr> btw. /me waiting for my second Apple Cube ... 20:56 < rxr> with replaced CPU (1.2 GHz instead of the original 400-450) and ATi Radeon instead of the original R128 20:57 < rxr> actually I only was seking for a OpenFirmware, Cube compatible Radeon 20:57 < rxr> but as they are that rare, I decided to get a whole cube with it .-) 20:57 < |beowulf|> what do you use it for? 20:57 < rxr> desktop computer 20:57 < rxr> daily work, edit compile it is enough 20:57 < rxr> and for more advanced stuf fI can log into oru central 8-way anyway ... 20:58 < rxr> I just love the cube design ... :-) 20:58 < rxr> (and PPC CPU, too) 20:58 < rxr> but I do not yet ahve the 2nd, "tuned" one, might arrive tomorrow ... 20:59 < |beowulf|> hm, I don't think I have a line that does mount -n /dev 20:59 < rxr> the patch I posted before should had it ,no ? 20:59 < |beowulf|> oh, sorry, wrong system :) 21:00 < |beowulf|> anything else I should add? 21:00 < rxr> maybe another new error reminds me about something missing .-) 21:04 < |beowulf|> http://www.hawo.stw.uni-erlangen.de/~siflfran/qube.3.log 21:06 < rxr> can you add an ls /dev/md* ; ls /dev 21:06 < rxr> to the cat /proc/mounts for debug hints ? 21:10 < rxr> I 21:10 < rxr> m just off for dinner 21:13 < |beowulf|> http://www.hawo.stw.uni-erlangen.de/~siflfran/qube.4.log 22:09 < rxr> can you try (sorry for the try'N error) adding a udevsettle after the udevtrigger ? 22:09 < rxr> btw. you have udev on the box right? 22:09 < rxr> is that some generic build or some custom build ? 22:25 < |beowulf|> it's generic 22:32 < |beowulf|> rxr: http://www.hawo.stw.uni-erlangen.de/~siflfran/qube.5.log 22:33 < rxr> hm - btw. can it be you build your kernel without sysfs support ? 22:33 < rxr> mount: can't find /sys in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab 22:33 < rxr> oh 22:34 < rxr> fstab: 22:34 < rxr> none /sys sysfs rw 0 0 22:37 < |beowulf|> http://www.hawo.stw.uni-erlangen.de/~siflfran/fstab <-- anything else missing? 22:39 < rxr> I wonder why my fstab has "rw" for sysfs, strange 22:39 < rxr> I think that could be just "defaults" 22:39 < rxr> I think the fstab should be good now 22:39 < rxr> when I merge that to trunk I'll open code it to explicitly specify the arguemnts to mount anyway, so it will work regardless of missing fstab entires 22:41 < |beowulf|> anything else I should change before I put the harddrive into the qube? :) 22:41 < rxr> maybe I should have locally tested that in Qemu ? 22:52 < |beowulf|> hm, it's in runlevel 3 now but it didn't start a getty on the serial port 22:52 < |beowulf|> and it didn't start networking either 22:53 < rxr> did you enable some serial getty ? 22:53 < |beowulf|> I did 22:54 < rxr> network is configured ? 22:54 < |beowulf|> http://www.hawo.stw.uni-erlangen.de/~siflfran/qube.6.log 22:54 < |beowulf|> I'll take a look at that now 22:55 < rxr> Setting up network devices. v 22:55 < rxr> /sbin/rocknet: line 121: /dev/fd/62: No such file or directory 22:55 < rxr> /sbin/rocknet: line 131: /dev/fd/62: No such file or directory 22:55 < rxr> put this after your custom mount /dev in the init.d/system: 22:55 < rxr> ln -s /proc/self/fd /dev/fd 22:58 < |beowulf|> anything else? 22:58 < rxr> sorry, my last initrd less system was like 5y ago :-( 22:58 < rxr> I wissh I could forsee issues 22:58 < |beowulf|> :) 22:59 < rxr> that should help some scripts liek the netconf ... 22:59 < rxr> but why your serial terminal is not working I did not see ... 22:59 < rxr> you are sure to add it to the /etc/inittab ? 23:01 < |beowulf|> T0:23:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L -f /etc/issue 115200 ttyS0 vt220 23:01 -!- xaw [n=xaw@unaffiliated/xaw] has joined #t2 23:01 [Users #t2] 23:01 [@ChanServ] [ bfg ] [ dsoul ] [ mqueiros_ ] [ sparc-kly_] [ xaw ] 23:01 [ __init__] [ CIA-53 ] [ elias` ] [ mtr ] [ tfl0pz ] [ |beowulf|] 23:01 [ axionix ] [ Dallur ] [ Enqlave] [ Ragnar|away] [ TobiX ] 23:01 [ Baldzius] [ dogmeat] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ valentin ] 23:01 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 22 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal] 23:08 < |beowulf|> rxr: http://www.hawo.stw.uni-erlangen.de/~siflfran/qube.7.log 23:08 < |beowulf|> didn't make much of a difference 23:08 < |beowulf|> except that now there is /dev/fd 23:09 < rxr> mh 23:18 < |beowulf|> why doesn't the prng get seeded? 23:19 < rxr> it should 23:19 < rxr> I would have to review, maybe it is only seeded after the first successful shutdown when some var/seed state is there and you's is lacking it due to a hand install or so 23:24 < |beowulf|> hmmm, the rocknet code looks like a lot of black magic... 23:24 < |beowulf|> no idea what it does with /dev/fd/62 23:26 < rxr> nothing 23:26 < rxr> that is from the shell for job control 23:26 < rxr> job pipe whatever 23:27 < rxr> actually I enver took a closer look 23:27 < rxr> that is what modern linux distributions need this /proc/self -> /dev/fd link for 23:27 < rxr> maybe something is still wrong with the proc mount 23:27 < rxr> or the symlink is not correct ? 23:28 < rxr> Baldzius: I can offer you to help in form of fixing the system init in some VM tomorrow when an article is done I have to finish soonish 23:29 < Baldzius> rxr: huh? 23:31 < rxr> |beowulf|, sorry Baldzius 23:31 < rxr> evil tab completion while looking at another window ... 23:31 < |beowulf|> ok, thank you :) 23:31 < Baldzius> :) 23:49 -!- bfg [n=bfg@ppp121-45-235-74.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net] has left #t2 [] --- Log closed Sat Apr 12 00:00:58 2008