T2 IRC Log: 2008-01-14

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--- Log opened Mon Jan 14 07:56:35 2008
08:33 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@86-41-71-147.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net] has joined #t2
08:36 < mtr> moin
08:39 < Baldzius> hi mtr
08:44 < rxr> moin mtr and Baldzius
08:45 < Baldzius> hi rxr
08:54 < mtr> hi rxr and Baldzius
09:10 < CIA-13> aldas * r27518 /trunk/package/security/libassuan/libassuan.desc: * updated libassuan (1.0.3 -> 1.0.4)
09:10 < CIA-13> aldas * r27517 /trunk/package/editors/emacs/emacs.desc: * changed emacs build priority (126.100 -> 128.100) after gtk+
09:10 < rxr> mtr: what do we do with the changes /vc/* names :-) ?
09:10 < rxr> I would love so much to get the former naming back :-(
09:11 < CIA-13> aldas * r27519 /trunk/package/security/gnupg2/gnupg2.desc: * updated gnupg2 (2.0.7 -> 2.0.8)
09:11 < CIA-13> rene * r27520 /trunk/target/generic/pkgsel/00-bootstrap.in: * added a generic bootstrap package selection template
09:12 < CIA-13> aldas * r27521 /trunk/package/base/tcl/tcl.conf: * re-enabled and improved tcl's manual header files instalation making tk compile again
09:16 < CIA-13> aldas * r27522 /trunk/package/x11/mesa-demos/mesa-demos.desc: * updated mesa-demos (6.5.2 -> 7.0.2)
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09:30 < CIA-13> aldas * r27523 /trunk/misc/share/DownloadTranslations: * changed the mirror for postgresql as current one can't be resolved
09:34 < CIA-13> rene * r27524 /trunk/package/network/bridge-utils/bridge-utils.desc: * updated bridge-utils (1.2 -> 1.4)
09:37 < CIA-13> rene * r27525 /trunk/package/perl/perl-cairo/perl-cairo.desc: * updated perl-cairo (1.044 -> 1.045)
09:37 < CIA-13> rene * r27526 /trunk/package/textproc/iso-codes/iso-codes.desc: * updated iso-codes (1.7 -> 1.8)
09:39 < mtr> rxr: my intention was to have the trunk install-cd working again, and I am not categorical voting for the tty naming,
09:40 < mtr> but I really think we should take into account what is "common" and what people are used to
09:40 < CIA-13> rene * r27527 /trunk/package/develop/gengetopt/gengetopt.desc: * updated gengetopt (2.21 -> 2.22)
09:41 < mtr> maybe we could have both names, vc/x and a symlink to ttyx?
09:41 < mtr> but nonetheless this need udev patching
09:46 < CIA-13> rene * r27528 /trunk/package/emulators/wine/wine.desc: * updated wine (0.9.52 -> 0.9.53)
09:46 < CIA-13> rene * r27529 /trunk/package/network/phpldapadmin/phpldapadmin.desc: * updated phpldapadmin (1.1.0.3 -> 1.1.0.4)
09:46 < CIA-13> rene * r27530 /trunk/package/network/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.desc: * updated wpa_supplicant (0.6.1 -> 0.6.2)
09:46 < mtr> the udev packaged rules for tty* entries have the last_rule option set...
09:47 < rxr> so we want to use the new udev built-in rules ? :-)
09:47 < rxr> I hope they keep maintaining them :-)
09:48 < CIA-13> rene * r27531 /trunk/package/gnome2/bakery/bakery.desc: * updated bakery (2.4.3 -> 2.4.4)
09:48 < mtr> hmm, our rules need some maintenance, too :-)
09:49 < CIA-13> rene * r27532 /trunk/package/e16/enlightenment16/enlightenment16.desc: * updated enlightenment16 (0.16.8.10 -> 0.16.8.11)
09:49 < CIA-13> rene * r27533 /trunk/package/base/pcre/pcre.desc: * updated pcre (7.4 -> 7.5)
09:49 < mtr> when I think of lvm, raid and encryption ...
09:50 < rxr> lvm and raid work for me
09:50 < rxr> though those require more work in the boot scripts and the initrd
09:50 < rxr> especially if one wants to boot from lvm| raid | encrypted
09:56 -!- Ragnarin is now known as Ragnar|away
10:02 < rxr> n8 Ragnar|away
10:03 < CIA-13> rene * r27534 /branches/7.0/scripts/Emerge-Pkg:
10:03 < CIA-13> * fixed Emerge-Pkg to pass down the config name to Download,
10:03 < CIA-13> as required if used with non "default" configs to work at
10:03 < CIA-13> all or for overloaded architecture / target packages
10:04 < CIA-13> rene * r27535 /trunk/scripts/Emerge-Pkg: * merged r27534 from branches/7.0: fixed Emerge-Pkg to pass down the config name to Download
10:12 < CIA-13> mtr * r27536 /trunk/package/develop/cvsps/ (. cvsps.cache cvsps.desc): * added cvsps (2.1) - A supplemental tool to CVS that provides patchset information
12:03 < rxr> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/The-last-Concept-Sky-Commuter-aircraft-in-Existence_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26428QQihZ012QQitemZ220188946461QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
12:49 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@port-83-236-211-229.static.qsc.de] has joined #t2
12:49 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 SDE | 7.0-rc released! | trunk heading for 8.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org
12:49 -!- Topic set by H4X [] [Tue Jun 26 17:57:25 2007]
12:49 [Users #t2]
12:49 [@ChanServ] [ Baldzius] [ Dallur ] [ Knirch] [ Ragnar|away] [ TobiX ]
12:49 [ __init__] [ CIA-13 ] [ dsoul ] [ ljp ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
12:49 [ axionix ] [ crazy ] [ Enqlave] [ mtr ] [ rxr_ ]
12:49 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
12:49 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Nov 26 07:44:08 2006
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14:21 < CIA-13> aldas * r27537 /trunk/package/multimedia/gpac/gpac.desc: * changed gpac build priority (800.000 -> 142.100) before x264
14:21 < CIA-13> aldas * r27538 /trunk/package/multimedia/x264/x264.desc: * updated x264 (20071007-2245 -> 20080113-2245)
14:25 < CIA-13> aldas * r27539 /trunk/package/graphic/exiv2/exiv2.desc:
14:25 < CIA-13> * updated exiv2 (0.15 -> 0.16)
14:25 < CIA-13> * security update: CVE-2007-6353
14:41 < CIA-13> aldas * r27540 /trunk/package/develop/uisp/uisp.conf: * fixed uisp by removing -Werror
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15:02 < rxr> re
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16:22 < Baldzius> rxr: do we have any policy on old unmaitained packages which doesn't compile?
16:22 < Baldzius> it drives me crazy on every ref build
16:22 < rxr> re
16:22 < rxr> well, ...
16:23 < rxr> in the 7.0 cycle I did a 3 day fix marathon and fixed about 100 of them ...
16:23 < rxr> is your ref error count for 7.0 or trunk ?
16:23 < Baldzius> both :)
16:23 < rxr> in theory if they are useful they should be fixed
16:23 < rxr> sometimes I move aging stuff to contrib and O' them out
16:23 < rxr> how many ref errors do you have on 7.0 ?
16:24 < rxr> --
16:24 < rxr> on a simillar note I wonder how to handle kde 4.0 migration
16:24 < rxr> should be just edit the kde repository in the trunk to update to 4.ß ?
16:24 < rxr> this will cause quite some colateral damage on third party stuff, though
16:24 < Baldzius> like?
16:25 < rxr> oh - we have quite some stuff is not kde, but third party stuff ...
16:25 < rxr> basket, kalarm etc. pp
16:25 < rxr> every kde repository package not from kde.org ...
16:25 < rxr> plus some more stuff that is in the other repository
16:25 < Baldzius> oh
16:25 < rxr> I guess also the Open Office K file dialog plugin etc ...
16:26 < rxr> I expect around 50 - at least - failures if we just update the kde repository stuff to 4.0
16:26 < rxr> however I also do not have the time to maintain two kde flavours
16:26 < rxr> not to mention that would probably introduce other regressions for stuff that does not pick up the old compat versions
16:26 < rxr> plus this causes massive renaming of package names either now from kde-base and co to kde-base3 and co
16:27 < Baldzius> yeah
16:27 < rxr> or, if we add kde as kde4-base and co in a year or so if we would rename those to kde-base etc.
16:27 < rxr> damn h*ll
16:27 < Baldzius> tough decision :)
16:27 < rxr> maybe we should just take the pill for the pain and update
16:27 < rxr> trunk
16:27 < rxr> hopefully most stuff is fixed upsteam until 8.0 has to be final, like in the coming summer
16:29 < Baldzius> something has to be sacrificed
16:29 < Baldzius> o when you are going to commit those fixes for 7.0?
16:30 < rxr> I meant I did like 8 months ago ... :-)
16:30 < rxr> how many 7.0 errors do you get ?
16:30 < Baldzius> g* :)
16:31 < Baldzius> i have some most annoying like xmule, qcad, qmatplot, epix, gst-editor, metatheme, pixieplus, nvu
16:32 < Baldzius> also exact-audio doesn't compile
16:32 < rxr> yeah - I know it is just the renamed, legacy gsmp thing
16:32 < rxr> we'll soon, however, revamp it to form a general purpose audio framework
16:36 < Baldzius> when i compile the ref i always use a "quit on error" so everytime those packages are the breakage for my build
16:36 < Baldzius> and those packages aren't maintained for a long time
16:37 < rxr> do you have a found?
16:37 < rxr> btw. on ref builds I ususlly let it not stop at all or in stage 9, so I get a overview picture to fix up ...
16:38 < Baldzius> yeah i ussualy do that after 300.000
16:39 < Baldzius> it's really easy to spot the package with wrong build order
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16:53 < kic-> hola
17:29 < CIA-13> rene * r27541 /trunk/package/multimedia/xine-lib/xine-lib.desc: * updated xine-lib (1.1.8 -> 1.1.9)
17:37 < CIA-13> rene * r27542 /trunk/package/multimedia/xine-lib/xine-lib.desc: * updated xine-lib (1.1.9 -> 1.1.9.1)
17:42 < rxr> Baldzius: ^- maybe for 7.0 as some CVE -> SECURITY
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19:03 < Baldzius> rxr: yeah, sure
19:04 < Baldzius> it was on my list anyway
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20:31 < rxr> moin moin Ragnarin
20:31 < Ragnarin> hi rene :) how goes?
21:13 < obsethryl> oh rxr is here!
21:13 < obsethryl> :)
21:13 < obsethryl> at least i think he is...
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21:27 < rxr> Ragnarin: busy^3 or so :_)
21:28 < tri> re
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21:35 < Ragnarin> o_o
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