T2 IRC Log: 2007-11-28

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--- Log opened Wed Nov 28 00:00:15 2007
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09:19 < rxr> moin all
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09:34 < rxr> re
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11:59 [Users #t2]
11:59 [@ChanServ] [ crazy ] [ Enqlave ] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ]
11:59 [ axionix ] [ Cyda ] [ Fatal ] [ Negher ] [ valentin]
11:59 [ CIA-44 ] [ Dallur] [ Key_Gena] [ Ragnarin] [ yokoy_ ]
11:59 [ Codex ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ]
11:59 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal]
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13:37 [ CIA-44 ] [ Dallur] [ Key_Gena] [ pennyk_ ] [ valentin]
13:37 [ Codex ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ yokoy_ ]
13:37 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal]
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14:08 < sepp> moin :)
14:12 < rxr> hi sepp
14:12 [Users #t2]
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14:12 [ axionix ] [ Cyda ] [ Fatal ] [ pennyk_ ] [ TobiX ]
14:12 [ CIA-44 ] [ Dallur] [ Key_Gena] [ Ragnarin] [ valentin]
14:12 [ Codex ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ yokoy_ ]
14:12 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal]
14:13 < sepp> hi rxr
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14:47 < Cyda> moin
15:05 < sepp> moin Cyda
15:09 < rxr> hi Cyda
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16:36 < wrap_> hi everyone
16:37 < wrap_> I'm new to T2. Can anyone tell me what the status of the Neo1973 target is ?
16:41 < sepp> hi wrap_
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16:58 < rxr> wrap_: so lala, the hardware quality does not really motivate us to do much on it ...
17:15 < wrap_> is it really so bad ?
17:18 < rxr> bug #666 for the gsm chip and no spec / driver for gps
17:18 < rxr> plus near to no power management ...
17:18 < rxr> we continue our target for the fun of it of course anyway
17:18 < rxr> but we also have lots of other stuff to care about
17:18 < rxr> not to mention a daily job
17:18 < rxr> so it's more a nice to have thing for the free time ..
17:21 < wrap_> ok understood. thanks for the update.
17:23 < rxr> your welcome
17:23 < rxr> patches as well .-)
17:23 < rxr> how did you dount the t2 target?
17:23 < rxr> found even
17:25 < wrap_> I was searching on openmoko, a Google news update, and I came across Rene's web site/blog.
17:25 < rxr> you do not yet have a Neo, hm ?
17:26 < wrap_> I am hoping to buy an openmoko when GTA02 hardware release becomes available.
17:27 < wrap_> I want an open phone device with wifi support for research work.
17:29 < wrap_> Did you guys get a GTA01 version device ?
17:29 < rxr> yes, my company purchased a gta01 for tinkering
17:30 < wrap_> can it make a gsm call ?
17:31 < rxr> with the original OpenMoko / OE firmware most often not
17:31 < rxr> impressive how they keep breaking those basic features constantly
17:31 < rxr> with the last images from the last dates it is more often possible
17:31 < rxr> but you can definetly not use it, even with the current OE software for everyday calling
17:32 < rxr> SMS functionality is as far as I have seen still not functional at all
17:33 < wrap_> So is the T2 Neo1973 web page a set of aspirations (something yet to be developed) rather than a completed T2 target ?
17:35 < wrap_> I have been trying (for the first time) OE and MokoMakefile, just to build a devel-image, but builds are broken.
17:35 < wrap_> Also OE is so slow.
17:37 < rxr> well - it is as complete as OpenMoko, some days it builds and boots, somedays not :-)
17:38 < rxr> but on t2 it's only me working on it on rainy sundays if I have nothing important todo, and not 20 paid fulltime people as on OpenMoko
17:38 < rxr> for my 4 rainy sundays amazingly much is working .-)
17:38 < wrap_> well done ! and thanks for the conversation !
17:39 < rxr> you're welcome
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17:43 [@ChanServ] [ crazy ] [ Enqlave ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ yokoy]
17:43 [ axionix ] [ Cyda ] [ Fatal ] [ Negher ] [ TobiX ]
17:43 [ CIA-47 ] [ Dallur] [ Key_Gena] [ Ragnarin] [ valentin]
17:43 [ Codex ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ wrap_ ]
17:43 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal]
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