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CIA-12> rene * r26885 /trunk/package/archiver/liblzf/liblzf.desc: * updated liblzf (2.1 -> 3.0) 10:07 -!- Codex [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 10:07 < CIA-12> rene * r26886 /trunk/package/gnustep/gorm/gorm.desc: * updated gorm (1.2.1 -> 1.2.2) 10:08 < CIA-12> rene * r26887 /trunk/package/develop/sparse/sparse.desc: * updated sparse (0.4 -> 0.4.1) 10:08 < CIA-12> rene * r26888 /trunk/package/audio/snd/snd.desc: * updated snd (9.4 -> 9.5) 10:09 < CIA-12> rene * r26889 /trunk/package/audio/libgpod/libgpod.desc: * updated libgpod (0.5.2 -> 0.6.0) 10:09 -!- Codex [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has joined #t2 10:10 < rxr> moin Codex 10:26 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:35 -!- KillerX [n=anant@gentoo/student/KillerX] has joined #t2 10:39 < Codex> moinmoin, rxr 10:56 < CIA-12> rene * r26890 /trunk/package/mail/thunderbird/thunderbird.desc: * updated thunderbird (2.0.0.6 -> 2.0.0.9) 11:09 < rxr> valentin: I now meassued the oversacn, of course the SPEC we got was wrong on that again ... 11:10 < CIA-12> rene * r26891 /trunk/package/base/libiconv/libiconv.desc: * updated libiconv (1.11 -> 1.12) 11:14 -!- KillerX [n=anant@gentoo/student/KillerX] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 11:17 -!- KillerX [n=anant@gentoo/student/KillerX] has joined #t2 11:17 -!- KillerX [n=anant@gentoo/student/KillerX] has left #t2 [] 11:17 -!- KillerX [n=anant@gentoo/student/KillerX] has joined #t2 11:31 -!- Fatal is now known as Knirch 11:37 -!- pennyk_ [i=pennyk_@58.49.218.113] has joined #t2 11:55 -!- Codex [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:09 -!- Codex [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has joined #t2 12:22 < rxr> re 13:06 -!- KillerX [n=anant@gentoo/student/KillerX] has quit [] 13:14 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 13:25 -!- Codex [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 13:25 -!- Codex [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has joined #t2 15:35 [Users #t2] 15:35 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul ] [ Knirch ] [ Negher ] [ TobiX ] 15:35 [ CIA-12 ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ pennyk_ ] [ valentin] 15:35 [ Codex ] [ Enqlave ] [ mqueiros_] [ Ragnarin] [ yokoy_ ] 15:35 [ Cyda ] [ Key_Gena] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] 15:35 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] 15:40 < CIA-12> rene * r26892 /trunk/package/textproc/onig/ (. onig.cache onig.desc): * added onig (5.9.0) - A regular expressions library 16:33 < pennyk_> excert from vim.desc 16:34 < pennyk_> [D] 4276031384 vim-7.1 .tar.bz2 ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unix/ 16:35 < pennyk_> what is this '4276031384' mean? 16:39 < mtr> hi pennyk_ 16:40 < mtr> thats the cksum of the uncompressed archive file 16:41 < pennyk_> mtr: oh. thx 16:41 < pennyk_> why not use MD5 or SHA1? 16:41 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:47 < rxr> pennyk_: because 8 or so years ago the checksum felt quite right 16:48 < rxr> pennyk_: we consider expanding that in the future to use md5/sha1 then 16:48 < mtr> the crc checksum is good enough to detect upstream file changes 16:48 < rxr> maybe I should add this to the roadmap 16:50 < pennyk_> crc32 is good enough for small chunk of data. But for much bigger filesize, it is not strong enough 16:51 < rxr> the syntax would be in the Apache style [D] {SHA}012345 http://url... 16:51 < pennyk_> remember, crc32 is only 32 bit 16:51 < pennyk_> rxr: good idea 16:51 < pennyk_> but, 16:51 < pennyk_> [D] {SHA1}012345 http://url... 16:52 < pennyk_> should be SHA1, I think 16:52 < rxr> apache is just using {SHA} ... 16:52 < pennyk_> there are SHA256/... 16:52 < rxr> the 256 is just the number of bits 16:53 -!- kic- [i=rfoote@208.115.42.143] has joined #t2 16:53 < rxr> the algorithm is SHA1, available in bitdepths of 256, 512, 1024 or so ... 16:53 < kic-> re 16:53 < rxr> the length is deduceable from the bumber following, and probably why apache is just using {SHA} as prefix for any sha summed password 16:53 < rxr> hi kic 16:53 < kic-> hiya 16:53 < rxr> kic-: how's your day ? 16:54 < kic-> looking full, as usual, but hopefully will be a good day today 16:54 < kic-> how about yours? 16:55 < rxr> kic-: yeah - so much on my desk as well, ... 16:55 < rxr> at least we pushed 7.0-rc2 out of the door 16:55 < kic-> nice.. 16:55 < kic-> hows the beryl stability with it? :D~ 16:59 < rxr> good question 17:00 < rxr> I usually run a wild mix of T2 flavours on my workstation I type on 17:00 < rxr> I have a sort of 7.0 beryl on it I guess 17:00 < rxr> (plus a not yet comitted Mesa 7.0.x update and co) 17:00 < kic-> :D 17:00 < rxr> usually it is quite good, just the new inter driver (I already commited) ia a little more touchy 17:01 < rxr> and since some weeks I have some strange beryl bug that affets the min/max, etc. buttons of the windows 17:01 < kic-> i have been messing with my new lappie at home, and will be almost completely satisfied once i can get beryl functioning properly 17:01 < rxr> but maybe that is just my setup and/or related to utf-8 characters in totles ... 17:01 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/releases/ 17:01 < rxr> ^- now lists stronger downlaod tag checksums 17:02 < kic-> actually i've noticed that min/max button issue for some time now 17:03 < kic-> even when i ran it on the 6.0 t2 cd's i had on the other lappie 17:03 < kic-> but starting emerald after that 17:03 < kic-> seemed to fix it 17:05 -!- emte [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:05 < rxr> hm - strange, In the past I never had this problem - on my MacBook it ocurred recently ... 17:05 < rxr> thanks good as hard core low level bit hacker I can life without iwndow titles and buttons :-) and just enjoy the remaining 3D cube 17:07 < kic-> :D 17:07 < rxr> more annoying is that the stable release Intel driver only supports 2048 wide desktops, which conflicts with my home setup where I woudl normally use the inernal display (1280x800) + the external (1280x1024) one, the accumulating 2304 wide dekstop does not work with the Intel driver ... 17:07 < kic-> ah 17:07 < rxr> anyway, with the Apple Cinema display at work that's not the issue as I only use the external display and leave the Macbook near the desk ... 17:07 < rxr> anyway - I should continue some real work ... 17:08 < kic-> hehe 17:08 < kic-> ok 17:08 < kic-> have fun 17:08 < kic-> i'm going to make phone calls now, yay for cold calling, *gag* 17:10 < rxr> cold calling = 17:10 < rxr> ? 17:10 < kic-> erm 17:11 < kic-> cold calling = direct sales calls to people you've never spoken to before, and try to sell them the product 17:11 < rxr> ah - yeah - have fun 17:11 < kic-> heh 17:11 < kic-> indeed 17:12 -!- Key_Gena [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-263f54de325be392] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:21 -!- MyiamotoMusashi [n=Ronin@88.214.163.29] has joined #t2 17:21 -!- MyiamotoMusashi [n=Ronin@88.214.163.29] has quit [Client Quit] 17:22 -!- Negher [n=negher@217.12.176.10] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:29 -!- Key_Gena [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-f62e2659be762fe7] has joined #t2 17:36 < LMJ> huuhuu 17:48 -!- pennyk_ [i=pennyk_@58.49.218.113] has left #t2 [] 17:52 < rxr> hi LMJ 17:52 [Users #t2] 17:52 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ kic- ] [ mqueiros_] [ rxr ] [ yokoy_] 17:52 [ CIA-12 ] [ dsoul ] [ Knirch] [ mtr ] [ TobiX ] 17:52 [ Codex ] [ Key_Gena] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin ] [ valentin] 17:52 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 18:06 < kic-> k, getting bored with windows while i type out these emails, rebooting to T2 18:06 < kic-> brb 18:06 < kic-> :D 18:06 -!- kic- [i=rfoote@208.115.42.143] has quit ["reboot"] 18:11 < Cyda> hi 18:11 < Cyda> somone translate this for me 18:11 < Cyda> Im Leben, im Leben, geht mancher Schuss daneben 18:21 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 18:21 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADC36F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 18:22 < tri> moin 18:22 < tri> is it save to use the "as-needed" option ? 18:28 < CIA-12> rene * r26893 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-ps3/ (64bit.patch segfault.patch xf86-video-ps3.desc): 18:28 < CIA-12> * updated xf86-video-ps3 (2007-11-A11 -> 2007-11-15), and fixed the 18:28 < CIA-12> updated EXA acceleration to crash on uninitialized A8 ops 18:29 < rxr> tri: you will probably get some more build errors 18:29 < rxr> I think it is not much tested 18:30 < Cyda> hey rxr 18:30 < rxr> hey Cyda 19:05 < tri> rxr: the errors i got were therefor all related to the as needed option 19:06 < rxr> oh - yeah - that might very well be ... 19:06 < tri> wireless-tools, parted do build now without problems 19:06 < tri> only lilo and elilo failed with the new kernel headers (till now) 19:07 < CIA-12> rene * r26894 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-ps3/xf86-video-ps3.desc: * fixed xf86-video-ps3 Author tag 21:50 -!- crazy [n=crazy@frugalware/developer/crazy] has joined #t2 21:53 < tri> re 22:07 < crazy> hi guys , I try to compile 7.0-rc2 but wireless-tools won't compile =) 22:08 < crazy> there is what I get : http://frugalware.org/paste/2017 22:47 < tri> crazy: do you use the "as-needed" option ? 22:48 < crazy> tri: yes 22:48 < crazy> should I turn off ? 22:48 < tri> yes, this does the trick for me 22:48 < tri> it might be a bug 22:48 < crazy> ok I try doing that 22:49 < crazy> well looks like it is some sort bug 22:49 < tri> i have had problems with this option if i try to build the wireless-tools and also if i try to build parted 22:49 < tri> i told to rxr already, he said this function isn't tested that good 22:50 < crazy> tri: ok , thx 22:50 < crazy> I'll try without 22:51 < tri> is frugalware based on t2 ? 22:52 < crazy> no 22:53 < tri> hm i have problems building 2.23.1 with the iwlwifi modules ? 22:53 < crazy> I play a bit with t2 myself :) has nothing to do with Frugalware 22:58 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: dsoul, tri, @ChanServ, LMJ, Codex, Enqlave, Key_Gena, Knirch, Cyda, crazy, (+4 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 23:03 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #t2 23:03 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADC36F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 23:03 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 23:03 -!- Key_Gena [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-f62e2659be762fe7] has joined #t2 23:03 -!- mtr [n=michael@v29762.1blu.de] has joined #t2 23:03 -!- Cyda [n=Cyda@c-76-109-161-41.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #t2 23:03 -!- dsoul [i=darksoul@149.156.65.93] has joined #t2 23:03 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-69-178.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 23:03 -!- TobiX [i=tobias@zoidberg.org] has joined #t2 23:03 -!- Knirch [i=fatal@debian.as] has joined #t2 23:03 -!- valentin [n=valentin@port-212-202-41-74.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2 23:03 -!- ServerMode/#t2 [+o ChanServ] by irc.freenode.net 23:03 -!- crazy [n=crazy@frugalware/developer/crazy] has joined #t2 23:03 -!- Codex [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has joined #t2 23:03 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 23:06 -!- dsoul [i=darksoul@149.156.65.93] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:12 < crazy> tri: worked without as-needed but this is some binutils bug on T2 23:13 < crazy> I can compile using --as-needed on binutils >=2.18 without any problems 23:17 < tri> ah ok you updated your binutils ? 23:20 < crazy> no I have binutils stable ( aka 2.18 ) and a devel version on Frugalware current 23:20 < crazy> and we use same gcc version 23:20 < tri> t2 uses 2.18.50.0.3 23:21 < crazy> maybe in svn :) 23:21 < crazy> 0.7.rc2 has some .17 23:21 < crazy> let me check 23:21 < tri> ah yes i use trunk 23:21 < crazy> =[2]=> Building base/binutils [2.17.50.0.15 7.0-rc2] 23:21 < tri> ah might be good idea to update this to 2.18 23:22 < crazy> yes or any later version :) 23:22 < crazy> or disallow as needed with <2.18 :) 23:22 < tri> :-) 23:23 < tri> if you like to just send a patch file to the mailinglist ? 23:24 < crazy> well I don't know T2's build scripts well yet :) I have to see what file(s) to patch first 23:25 < tri> should be just the desc file 23:25 < tri> i know now why iwlwifi wasn't build for me - i use a version which isn't comatible with my kernel 23:26 < crazy> which iwlwifi version ? 23:26 < tri> i use 2.6.23.1 kernel and iwlwifi version 1.1.17 23:26 < crazy> ach 23:27 < tri> looks like they are not compatible 23:27 < crazy> you need .21 afaik 23:27 < tri> there are already iwlwifi-1.1.21 23:27 < tri> :-) 23:28 < tri> i also play around with updated kernel-headers 23:28 < crazy> .24 has it merged 23:28 < crazy> :) 23:29 < tri> the .24 kernel ? 23:29 < crazy> yes 23:29 < tri> has merged the iwlwifi drivers ? 23:30 < crazy> http://git.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=b481de9ca074528fe8c429604e2777db8b89806a 23:30 < crazy> yes 23:31 < tri> ah cool :-) 23:33 < tri> mac80211 was also merged ? 23:34 < crazy> yes 23:34 < crazy> let me see what else 23:35 < crazy> there are some wireless driver merged in .24 23:35 < tri> och i just need the one for iwl3945 :-) 23:36 < tri> how is your build going 23:36 < crazy> Iwlwifi 23:36 < crazy> rt2x00 23:36 < crazy> p54 23:36 < crazy> adm8211 23:36 < crazy> b43 23:36 < crazy> b43legacy 23:36 < crazy> these are in 2.6.24 already 23:37 < tri> but i still will need the iwl3945 firmware files 23:37 < crazy> yes sure 23:37 < crazy> build is on =[2]=> Building base/gcc [4.2.2 7.0-rc2] 23:37 < tri> but this is still better then the ipw3945 driver where this service was needed 23:38 < tri> ah stage 2 at gcc - will still need some time :-) 23:39 < crazy> I know :) 23:48 < tri> time to sleep now :- 23:48 < tri> gn8 23:48 < crazy> gn8 tri 23:48 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADC36F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #t2 [] --- Log closed Fri Nov 16 00:00:21 2007