--- Log opened Tue Oct 30 00:00:00 2007 01:13 -!- emte [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has joined #T2 02:41 -!- unleaded [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has joined #T2 02:42 -!- emte [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:02 -!- unleaded [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:06 -!- emte [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has joined #T2 05:42 -!- Codexx [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has joined #t2 05:44 -!- Codex [n=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:02 -!- Codex [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has joined #t2 06:07 -!- Codexx [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:57 < rxr> re 08:23 < CIA-12> rene * r26627 /trunk/package/develop/gdb/gdb.desc: * updated gdb (6.7 -> 6.7.1) 08:28 < CIA-12> rene * r26628 /trunk/package/filesystem/ntfs-3g/ntfs-3g.desc: * updated ntfs-3g (1.1004 -> 1.1030) 08:29 < CIA-12> rene * r26629 /trunk/package/gnome2/cellwriter/cellwriter.desc: * updated cellwriter (1.2.4 -> 1.3.0) 08:29 < CIA-12> rene * r26630 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-fsguard-plugin/xfce4-fsguard-plugin.desc: * updated xfce4-fsguard-plugin (0.3.99.1 -> 0.4.0) 09:09 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-69-51.bragatel.pt] has quit [] 09:30 -!- Negher [n=negher@217.12.176.10] has joined #T2 10:09 * rxr wonders why this fresh Leopard install fills my log with: 30.10.07 10:07:39 com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.dyld) Throttling respawn: Will start in 60 seconds 10:15 < rxr> juche 10:15 < rxr> after over 16 work hours our damn NSTokenField works under Leopard 10:15 < rxr> probably one of the most expensive bugs to fix 10:16 < rxr> ok - probably after the "our driver causes an immediate kernel freeze on the Intel Macs when they came out ... 10:16 [Users #t2] 10:16 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul] [ Key_Gena84] [ pdinoto_ ] [ TobiX ] 10:16 [ CIA-12 ] [ emte ] [ mtr ] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin] 10:16 [ Codex ] [ Fatal] [ Negher ] [ rxr ] 10:16 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 10:19 < rxr> heh - I think Apple should hand a free iPhone for every developer coding for Mac OS X - that would at least compensate some of the pain 10:26 < Negher> It would be a great idea rxr. 10:28 < rxr> yeah 10:28 < rxr> moin Negher 10:50 < Negher> Hi rxr. 10:50 < Negher> Sorry, was in Datacenter to solve some problems ;). 11:00 < rxr> :-) 11:08 < Negher> What news are there with T2 ? 11:17 < rxr> heh - the news from the Homepage ? 11:17 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/ 11:17 < rxr> we probably should spin a 7.0-rc2 soon and a final in Nov. likewise 11:17 < Negher> News in general abount the project, not necessarly on the homepage. 11:17 < Negher> Good. 11:18 < Negher> I was looking for a source based distribution to use, seems I found something more. 11:18 < Negher> I'm now using Sourcemage. 11:19 < Negher> But it gives me some problems. 11:22 < Negher> I tried Gentoo, but I found it not a "straight forward" distribution for me. 11:22 < Negher> I come from Arch Linux, I'm for simple things. 11:28 < rxr> :-) 11:28 < rxr> yeah - have you gave t2 a try ? 11:29 < Negher> I'm downloading now. 11:29 < Negher> Seemed to me very solid, it gives the impression of having everything under control 11:31 < Negher> I used also the snapshot of the sources, as I hadn't subversion installed. 11:34 < Negher> Downloading takes a bit as I can't find an online mirror near my country. 13:02 -!- Codexx [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has joined #t2 13:04 -!- Codex [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:08 < Negher> Download finished ... let's build ;). 13:22 -!- Codex [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has joined #t2 13:23 -!- Codexx [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:33 < rxr> re 13:35 < Codex> rehi 13:38 < rxr> hi Codex 13:38 < Negher> Hi Codex. 13:51 < rxr> http://tagesanzeiger.ch/dyn/digital/hardware/806024.html 14:01 < Negher> It's building flawlessy as of now. 14:13 < Codex> heya rxr && Negher :) 14:13 < Negher> Hi Codex. 14:14 < Negher> I'm lurking also on the SourceMage channel. 14:15 < Codex> so, Negher 14:15 < Negher> Tell me. 14:16 < Codex> you told you have some probs with smgl, and don't like it 14:16 < Codex> which ones? :> 14:19 < Codex> ghrm 14:20 < Codex> tell you what? 14:21 < Negher> You began the question ... I was saying you could ask me everything you want ;). 14:21 < Negher> I'm haveing many troubles compiling some particular softwares. 14:22 < Codex> @ smgl? huh 14:22 < Negher> *having 14:22 < Codex> which ones? 14:22 < Negher> For example virtualbox, qemu, grdesktop just to name a few. 14:22 < Negher> And in general that was a feeling I got using it. 14:23 < Negher> All of the source based distribution I tried were great. 14:24 < Negher> Do you find it suiting your needs, Codex ? 14:42 -!- Codexx [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has joined #t2 14:43 -!- Codex [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:44 < Codexx> hmm Negher 14:45 < Codexx> i disconnected, cause of my sweet isp :> 14:45 < Codexx> [16:21'21] Negher> All of the source based distribution I tried were great. 14:45 < Codexx> [16:22'43] Negher> Do you find it suiting your needs, Codex ? 14:45 < Codexx> [16:23'39] Codex> hmm 14:45 < Codexx> [16:23'59] Codex> didn't you try to ask the dev-team 'bout it? :) 14:45 < Codexx> [16:24'11] Codex> or maybe don't you want try lunar? :) 14:45 < Codexx> [16:24'25] Codex> it's source-based also. 14:45 < Codexx> [16:25'10] Codex> i like T2 cause it's THE UNIVERSE for the developer to create his OWN os :) 14:45 -!- Codexx is now known as Codex 14:50 < Negher> I like that too. 15:08 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@81.80.156.36] has joined #t2 16:47 < Negher> Just as an information: how many time do I have to compile gcc and glibc ? 17:16 < rxr> for a full native build glibc is build 2 times 17:17 < rxr> gcc 3 times or so 17:17 < rxr> but that are not 3 full builds 17:17 < rxr> if you build gcc manually it builds itself 3 times or so, and the rebuilds in t2 disable this step already 17:17 < rxr> and th first builds are C/C++ compiler only, only the last flavour spends all the time building the C++ stdlibc++, objc and Java ... 17:18 < rxr> so all in all it is the same time as a manual build + the little prebuilding for the clean toolchain bootstrap 17:19 -!- Key_Gena84 [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-0e437be36a3f8447] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:19 < Negher> Thanks for the info. 17:52 < Negher> See you tomorrow. Thanks for all the help and for the moral assistance :P. 17:52 < Negher> Bye bye. 17:52 -!- Negher [n=negher@217.12.176.10] has quit ["Ora che ho perso la vista ... ci vedo di piu' ..."] 18:07 -!- emte [n=emte@66.183.8.167] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:13 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@81.80.156.36] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:32 -!- Ragnar|away is now known as Ragnarin 19:09 < Ragnarin> rxr: who's the (no author) in the commit list? his/her commit descriptions are totally useless 19:11 < rxr> probably deekey or so 19:11 < rxr> need to add it to the ChangeLog parser 19:12 < rxr> with svn log -r you see the real comit auth name 19:14 < Ragnarin> denisk 19:14 < Ragnarin> can you nudge him to write meaningful commit messages? 19:17 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-69-47.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 19:17 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADC2C3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 19:17 < rxr> Ragnarin: maybe you do when he is next here 19:18 < tri> moin 19:18 < rxr> Ragnarin: his irc nick is deekey or so 19:18 < Ragnarin> I'll try :) 19:18 < rxr> Ragnarin: I do not want to be the evil Linus-alike dictator ... 19:18 < rxr> from scrollback I gues you mean the "small change" commits :-) 19:18 < Ragnarin> btw is there a way to get the delta between rx and ry without first checxing out rx? 19:18 < Ragnarin> yes 19:19 < rxr> old style: 19:19 < rxr> svn diff -r : 19:19 < rxr> new style (works only since svn 1.3 or so) 19:19 < rxr> svn diff -c 19:20 < Ragnarin> ah thanks :) grand 19:40 < tri> rxr: how was the systems this year - empty ? 19:46 < rxr> yeah, not as good as I immagined, yes 19:46 < rxr> but for boothes where we do not ahve to pay huge amounts for every visitor knowing T2, now counts :-) 19:49 < tri> i told some of my traines to go to your booth - for some coffee and co :-) 19:50 < rxr> heh 19:51 < tri> but i think they where to shake 20:18 -!- Dallur [n=earl@fgfw.basis.is] has joined #t2 20:23 -!- Codex [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 20:24 -!- Codex [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has joined #t2 21:50 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@dslb-084-058-095-000.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #t2 21:52 < d-marc> rxr: hello 21:55 -!- Codex [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 21:56 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@vaio.aixmarseille.com] has joined #t2 21:59 -!- Codex [i=stealth@unaffiliated/codex] has joined #t2 22:13 < tri> gn8 22:14 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADC2C3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #t2 [] 22:33 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@dslb-084-058-095-000.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/"] 23:17 -!- Key_Gena84 [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-b5e2d6d0b2c76851] has joined #t2 23:21 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@vaio.aixmarseille.com] has quit ["Leaving"] --- Log closed Wed Oct 31 00:00:00 2007