--- Log opened Sat Oct 20 00:00:49 2007 00:25 < CIA-8> aldas * r26473 /trunk/package/filesystem/siefs/siefs.conf: 00:25 < CIA-8> * merged r26463 from branches/7.0 to trunk: 00:25 < CIA-8> fixed siefs by adding -ldl 01:05 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 09:48 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 10:51 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 11:41 -!- sepp__ [n=sepp@Z4eca.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 11:42 -!- sepp__ [n=sepp@Z4eca.z.pppool.de] has quit [Client Quit] 11:55 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z4eca.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 11:55 < sepp> moin 11:58 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z5829.z.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:23 -!- tri [n=tri@p57AD8939.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 12:23 < tri> moin 12:24 < tri> does it make sense to use runit on my own desktop machine ? 12:24 < tri> and what does SDECFG_X86_OPT_XEN ? 12:28 < rxr> runit can be used for workstations, yes 12:28 < rxr> the Xen optimization avoids certain segment register use that needs to be emulated slowly when run in Xen 12:30 < tri> ah ok is runit compatible with the t2 init scripts 12:30 < rxr> runit is sort of integegrated 12:30 < rxr> it is suppost to yield runit init configuration 12:32 < tri> it speed up the boot process, right ? 12:32 < rxr> I never really used it, the T2 integration was done by others. ... 12:32 < rxr> maybe try it - or read the project overview or so 12:32 < rxr> but I guess it's faster 12:32 < rxr> and also supports auto restart 12:33 < tri> ah ok thx 12:33 < rxr> e.g. on crash of apache, openssh, etc. where sysvinit does not restart anything 12:33 < tri> you always use sysvinit ? 12:33 < rxr> on normal systems right now yes 12:33 < rxr> on embedded we mostly use busybox's init and minit 12:33 < tri> there is a problem with the iwlwifi package - the new version try to load the file iwlwifi-3945-1.ucode but our file is named iwlwifi-3945.ucode maybe we can change this 12:34 < tri> there is also minit 12:34 < rxr> I guess we also just need a newer firmware ? 12:34 < tri> no same firmware 12:35 < tri> i have a talk with the guys from intellinuxwireless and they said they have had a problem about versioning 12:35 < tri> just rename the *.ucode file to *-1.ucode and it is working again 12:35 < rxr> hm 12:45 < tri> runit in t2 is still used ? 12:46 < rxr> probably 12:46 < rxr> I even plan to test it myself soon, inluding updating it 12:46 < rxr> there is a new major version (1.8? or so?) 12:48 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 12:49 < tri> hm but i can build my target with sysvinit and then update to runit later ? 12:50 < rxr> you have to rebuild all then 12:50 < rxr> (at least all packages containing init stuff) 12:51 < tri> hm 12:51 < rxr> but that is not soo much of work with t2 12:51 < rxr> just select the other init and let it rebuild automatically ... 12:52 < tri> there is also minit jinit twsinit cinit... 12:53 < tri> hm to much choise ... 12:54 < CIA-8> rene * r26474 /trunk/package/develop/uncrustify/uncrustify.desc: * updated uncrustify (0.39 -> 0.40) 12:54 < rxr> yeah - many of them are pure crap ... 12:54 < rxr> minit is nice and very tiny, but I would not use it for workstations 12:54 < rxr> for embedded it is fine 12:55 < CIA-8> rene * r26475 /trunk/package/filesystem/nfs-utils/nfs-utils.desc: * updated nfs-utils (1.1.0 -> 1.1.1) 12:55 < CIA-8> rene * r26476 /trunk/package/develop/mercurial/mercurial.desc: * updated mercurial (0.9.4 -> 0.9.5) 12:57 < tri> hm looks interessting 13:03 < CIA-8> rene * r26477 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (6 files in 6 dirs): (log message trimmed) 13:03 < CIA-8> * further gnome 2.20.1 updates, including: 13:03 < CIA-8> * updated gtksourceview (2.0.0 -> 2.0.1) 13:03 < CIA-8> * updated gnome-themes (2.20.0 -> 2.20.1) 13:03 < CIA-8> * updated gconf (2.20.0 -> 2.20.1) 13:03 < CIA-8> * updated gcalctool (5.20.1 -> 5.20.2) 13:03 < CIA-8> * updated gnome-keyring (2.20.0 -> 2.20.1) 13:07 < CIA-8> rene * r26478 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkhtml/gtkhtml.desc: * updated gtkhtml (3.16.0 -> 3.16.1) 13:15 < tri> minit: http://osdir.com/ml/debian.devel.initscripts-ng/2005-08/msg00068.html 13:16 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@86-45-132-246.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net] has joined #t2 13:16 < Baldzius> moin 13:17 < tri> wb Baldzius 13:18 < Baldzius> hi tri 13:18 < tri> is the minit t2 intergration still useable ? 13:19 < rxr> it is minimal 13:19 < rxr> the problem with minit and runit is that they can not be directly configured out of our historic .init templates 13:19 < rxr> that is why those ship their own few init configs for some packages 13:19 < rxr> but we use it on special embedded boxes 13:19 < rxr> in the long term the .init meta format should be redone in T2 13:20 < rxr> so that all, sysvinit, runit, minit, upstart, etc. can be generated out of the description 13:21 < tri> that would be very cool - but you have used minit ? 13:26 < tri> hm the minit params files look simple http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/base/minit/inits/sshd/params 13:30 < rxr> yes I use minit, but I often have a complete custom set of minit config 13:30 < rxr> that is why I do not want to offer the impression that just switching on minit will result in a perfect system 13:34 < tri> minit is still maintained by fefe ? 13:34 < rxr> probably 13:35 < tri> should i give minit a try - i'm just on my way to build my config new ? 13:35 < tri> will it work out of the box for desktop use 13:49 < tri> ? 13:54 < CIA-8> aldas * r26479 /trunk/package/gnome2/gail/gail.desc: * changed gail build priority before libgnomecanvas (144.000 -> 142.500) 13:56 < CIA-8> aldas * r26480 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp2/gtk-sharp2.desc: 13:56 < CIA-8> * merged r26465 from branches/7.0 to trunk: 13:56 < CIA-8> changed gtk-sharp2 build priority before avahi (153.650 -> 142.150) 13:57 < CIA-8> aldas * r26481 /trunk/package/network/dbus-python/dbus-python.desc: 13:57 < CIA-8> * merged r26466 from branches/7.0 to trunk: 13:57 < CIA-8> changed dbus-python build priority before avahi (149.501 -> 142.100) 13:59 < CIA-8> aldas * r26482 /trunk/package/python/pyrexc/pyrexc.desc: 13:59 < CIA-8> * merged r26467 from branches/7.0 to trunk: 13:59 < CIA-8> changed pyrexc build priority before dbus-python (149.400 -> 142.000) 14:12 < rxr> re 14:12 < rxr> tri: I would not use minit on a desktop today 14:12 < rxr> runit is proably better suited for that 14:12 < rxr> minit really is pretty minimalistic 14:13 < rxr> (bu that is great(tm) for my embedded uses .-) 14:14 < rxr> http://chigarden.com/index.php/chibits/comments/tutorial_making_the_ie_voodoo_doll/ 14:18 < CIA-8> rene * r26483 /trunk/package/network/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.desc: * improved dnsmasq Url tag to directly link the HTML file 15:31 < CIA-8> aldas * r26484 /trunk/package/x86/apmd/ (hotfixes.patch skip_xapm.patch): 15:31 < CIA-8> * merged r26470 from branches/7.0 to trunk: 15:31 < CIA-8> rediffed apmd/hotfixes.patch apmd/skip_xapm.patch to make the package build 15:39 < CIA-8> aldas * r26485 /trunk/package/develop/cwiid/cwiid.desc: * changed cwiid build priority after bluez-libs (126.800 -> 146.800) 16:34 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 16:59 < CIA-8> rene * r26486 /trunk/package/ia64/gnu-efi/gnu-efi.desc: * marked gnu-efi NOPARALLEL (for now) 17:28 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 17:34 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@adsl-72-50-27-222.prtc.net] has joined #t2 17:53 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@adsl-64-237-252-31.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:30 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e178111254.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 20:37 < CIA-8> aldas * r26487 /trunk/package/www/seamonkey/seamonkey.desc: * updated seamonkey (1.1.4 -> 1.1.5) 20:37 < CIA-8> aldas * r26488 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtksourceviewmm/gtksourceviewmm.desc: * updated gtksourceviewmm (0.3.1 -> 1.9.3) 20:41 < CIA-8> aldas * r26489 /trunk/package/gnome2/balsa/balsa.desc: * updated balsa (2.3.14 -> 2.3.20) 20:42 < CIA-8> aldas * r26490 /trunk/package/develop/libnotify/libnotify.desc: * changed libnotify build priority before balsa (300.000 -> 154.000) 21:03 < CIA-8> aldas * r26491 /trunk/package/mail/postfix/postfix.desc: * updated postfix (2.4.5 -> 2.4.6) 21:03 < CIA-8> aldas * r26492 /trunk/package/database/postgresql/postgresql.desc: * updated postgresql (8.2.4 -> 8.2.5) 21:04 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@vaio.aixmarseille.com] has joined #t2 21:05 -!- itsu [n=user@i59F5F3AE.versanet.de] has joined #t2 21:59 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.80.189.242] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:09 < CIA-8> aldas * r26493 /trunk/package/kde/kdebindings/kdepy.patch: * removed kdebindings/kdepy.patch - obsolete 22:11 < CIA-8> aldas * r26494 /branches/7.0/package/ia64/gnu-efi/gnu-efi.desc: 22:11 < CIA-8> * merged r26486 from trunk to branches/7.0: 22:11 < CIA-8> marked gnu-efi NOPARALLEL (for now) 22:15 -!- itsu [n=user@i59F5F3AE.versanet.de] has left #t2 [] 22:44 < CIA-8> aldas * r26495 /branches/7.0/package/graphic/gimp/ (end-decls.patch gimp.desc): 22:44 < CIA-8> * merged r25775, r25859, r25951, r26162 from trunk to branches/7.0: 22:44 < CIA-8> updated gimp (2.2.17 -> 2.4.0-rc1 -> 2.4.0-rc2 -> 2.4.0-rc3) 22:44 < CIA-8> imported upstream gimp patch, missing G_END_DECLS 22:50 < CIA-8> aldas * r26496 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-bluetooth/gnome-bluetooth.desc: * updated gnome-bluetooth (0.8 -> 0.9.1) 22:59 -!- TobiX [i=tobias@zoidberg.org] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:00 -!- TobiX [i=tobias@213.133.99.5] has joined #t2 23:09 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z4eca.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 23:16 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e178111254.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:16 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e178111254.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 23:32 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@vaio.aixmarseille.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:38 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z4eca.z.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] --- Log closed Sun Oct 21 00:00:50 2007