--- Log opened Fri Oct 05 00:00:35 2007 00:07 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:54 -!- cgetty [n=elmo@63.168.104.2] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:47 -!- cgetty [n=Clark@pool-71-108-239-203.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #t2 04:04 -!- cgetty [n=Clark@pool-71-108-239-203.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:39 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:39 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 05:38 -!- keinek_ [n=chatzill@201.250.50.219] has joined #t2 05:50 -!- keinek_ [n=chatzill@201.250.50.219] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:52 -!- clark [n=Clark@pool-71-108-239-203.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #t2 06:58 -!- Key_Gena95 [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-653cbabd35efa9eb] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:07 -!- clark is now known as cgetty 07:31 -!- Key_Gena95 [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-5a554c5e901d242d] has joined #t2 08:41 -!- cgetty [n=Clark@pool-71-108-239-203.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:14 < CIA-8> susan * r26209 /trunk/package/network/tcpdump/tcpdump.desc: * updated tcpdump (3.9.7 -> 3.9.8) 09:17 < rxr> re 09:20 < Ragnar|away> hi 09:23 * Ragnar|away yawns 09:23 * Ragnar|away crawls off to bed 09:23 < Ragnar|away> nini rene 09:24 < rxr> have a good night Ragnar|away 09:24 [Users #t2] 09:24 [@ChanServ] [ emte ] [ Key_Gena95] [ pdinoto_ ] [ TobiX ] 09:24 [ CIA-8 ] [ Enqlave ] [ kic- ] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin] 09:24 [ cyda ] [ Fatal ] [ mqueiros_ ] [ rxr ] 09:24 [ Dallur ] [ happycube] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] 09:24 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 09:24 < Ragnar|away> thanks 09:25 < CIA-8> susan * r26210 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * updated firefox (2.0.0.6 -> 2.0.0.7) 09:46 < CIA-8> rene * r26211 /trunk/package/www/uriparser/ (. uriparser.cache uriparser.desc): * added uriparser (0.6.0) - An RFC 3986 URI parsing library 09:47 < CIA-8> rene * r26212 /trunk/package/multimedia/libspiff/ (. libspiff.cache libspiff.desc): * added libspiff (0.8.1) - A library for reading and writing XSPF playlists 10:18 < CIA-8> susan * r26213 /trunk/package/network/gsmd/gsmd.desc: * updated gsmd (r2691 -> r3088) 11:04 < CIA-8> rene * r26214 /trunk/package/base/binutils/ (binutils.desc texinfo-version.patch): * updated binutils (2.18.50.0.1 -> 2.18.50.0.2) 11:20 < CIA-8> rene * r26215 /trunk/package/perl/perl-test-number-delta/ (. perl-test-number-delta.cache perl-test-number-delta.desc): * added perl-test-number-delta (1.03) - Perl module Test-Number-Delta 11:21 < CIA-8> rene * r26216 /trunk/package/perl/perl-cairo/ (perl-cairo.cache perl-cairo.desc): * updated perl-cairo (1.041 -> 1.042) 11:23 < CIA-8> rene * r26217 /trunk/package/network/tor/tor.desc: * updated tor (0.1.2.16 -> 0.1.2.17) 11:24 < CIA-8> rene * r26218 /trunk/package/python/itools/itools.desc: * updated itools (0.16.8 -> 0.16.9) 11:24 < CIA-8> rene * r26219 /trunk/package/network/bittorrent/bittorrent.desc: * updated bittorrent (5.0.8 -> 5.0.9) 12:44 < rxr> re 12:49 < Fatal> rere 13:05 -!- Enqlave|laptop [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 13:05 < rxr> hi Fatal Enqlave|laptop 13:05 [Users #t2] 13:05 [@ChanServ] [ emte ] [ happycube ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] 13:05 [ CIA-8 ] [ Enqlave ] [ Key_Gena95] [ pdinoto_ ] [ TobiX ] 13:05 [ cyda ] [ Enqlave|laptop] [ kic- ] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin] 13:05 [ Dallur ] [ Fatal ] [ mqueiros_ ] [ rxr ] 13:05 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] 13:06 < Enqlave|laptop> hah 13:06 < Enqlave|laptop> hello rxr ;) 13:06 < Enqlave|laptop> good to see you 13:31 < CIA-8> rene * r26220 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.22.7 -> 2.6.22.8) 13:32 < CIA-8> rene * r26221 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.22.8 -> 2.6.22.9) 14:35 -!- Enqlave|laptop [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 15:01 < rxr> dpinfo 15:01 < rxr> "Servernachricht: 15:01 < rxr> Fuer die angegebene Datenbank laeuft kein DB-Server" 15:01 < rxr> wonderful .. 15:38 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z5f77.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 15:42 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 15:43 < LMJ> hi 15:55 -!- Dallur [n=earl@194-144-10-228.du.xdsl.is] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:56 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z62d8.z.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 15:58 -!- Dallur [n=earl@fgfw.basis.is] has joined #t2 16:43 < rxr> hi LMJ 16:43 < LMJ> hi rxr 17:06 < kic-> hola 17:06 < kic-> so like 17:06 < kic-> my target/rootfs/etc 17:08 < kic-> erm, nvm 17:08 < kic-> figured it out 17:13 -!- cgetty [n=Clark@pool-71-108-239-203.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #t2 17:46 -!- Enqlave [i=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:56 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:56 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 17:58 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-16-123-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has joined #t2 18:07 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@87.198.192.226] has joined #t2 18:07 < Baldzius> moin 18:08 < rxr> hey Baldzius ! 18:08 < rxr> Baldzius: how are you? how is .ir going ? 18:08 < Baldzius> hi rxr 18:08 < Baldzius> ie :) 18:09 < rxr> ah sorry 18:09 < rxr> .ie ? 18:09 < rxr> all find? 18:09 < Baldzius> not bad not bad, as usuall 18:09 < Baldzius> sorry? 18:09 < Baldzius> the last sentence 18:09 < rxr> s/find/fine/ :-) 18:09 < Baldzius> heh :) 18:10 < rxr> I guess overly busy ? 18:10 < Baldzius> yeah, just a little 18:10 < rxr> too much at work? or experiencing the green islan ? 18:10 < rxr> +d 18:11 < Baldzius> just work 18:11 < rxr> oh 18:11 < rxr> that not so good I guess ... 18:11 < Baldzius> traveled only outside, visited croatia at the end of august 18:12 < Baldzius> nice country apart that it was really hot 18:12 < Baldzius> but i can imagine what it's to be there at middle of july 18:13 < rxr> so you will spend more time here in the next time? we're really missing you ... 18:14 < Baldzius> :) 18:15 < Baldzius> don't know, maybe .. 18:15 < rxr> ouhm 18:15 < Baldzius> sometimes i am really swamped out 18:16 < Baldzius> also still don't have any good computer for compile stuff 18:16 < Baldzius> have f* 2.4Ghz celeron at home with 40GB HDD 18:16 < Baldzius> total crap 18:17 < rxr> doesn't sound that bad 18:18 < Baldzius> oh it's really bad, maybe it doesn't sound bad but reality is diferent and it's bad really bad :) 18:19 < Baldzius> i wish i had sempron instead 18:19 < rxr> I have a dusty Athlon XP 2500+ in the corner, is that better ? 18:19 < Baldzius> comparing to celeron? 18:19 < Baldzius> much much better 18:20 < Baldzius> all work i did previously was on Athlon 2400+ 18:20 < rxr> hm - I would have thought they would be quite equally fast ... 18:20 < rxr> of course I ask because we badly miss your excellent stable tree maintenance you did .... 18:21 < rxr> I could even send you the Athlon board (cpu+ram) if that would help 18:22 < Baldzius> :) i guess that would cost more than bying 18:22 < rxr> I think inter-EU shipping is quite cheap these days ... 18:23 < Baldzius> i am just looking for the new computer but have to wait as i need the car 18:23 < Baldzius> just waiting to see how cold the weather can be here in winter 18:23 < Baldzius> cause i can cycle now easily 18:23 < rxr> on our schedule is also establishing a Foundation to allow companies doing tax redused donations we can distribute to individuals ... 18:24 < Baldzius> cause if it gets too cold i'll have to go to work somehow :/ 18:24 < rxr> yeah, ... 18:24 < rxr> no idea how cold ireland becomes in the winter, I only visited it once in the summer ... 18:24 < rxr> how far away is your work ? 18:25 < Baldzius> 40min by bicycle 18:25 < rxr> oh, so 15 km or so ? 18:25 < Baldzius> yeah, something about that 18:26 < Baldzius> 2.30 by walking i guess 18:27 < rxr> Baldzius: if we can help you getting stuff together for t2 stable work let me know :-) 18:27 -!- Key_Gena95 [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-5a554c5e901d242d] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:28 < Baldzius> rxr: thanks, i have to think :) 18:28 < Baldzius> what are the choises 18:29 < Baldzius> previsouly i had a dedicated server so it was really handy 18:29 < Baldzius> and i guess that's the best solution 18:30 < rxr> we got a 8-core 3GHz, 8GB Xeon in the office 18:30 < rxr> maybe I could setup some "logical partition" (with whatever virtualization thing whatsoever) if it's just that 18:32 -!- Key_Gena95 [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-b88c8c7ebf0997ac] has joined #t2 18:34 [Users #t2] 18:34 [@ChanServ] [ cyda ] [ Fatal ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin] 18:34 [ Baldzius] [ Dallur] [ happycube ] [ mqueiros_] [ rxr ] 18:34 [ cgetty ] [ DeeKey] [ Key_Gena95] [ mtr ] [ sepp_ ] 18:34 [ CIA-8 ] [ emte ] [ kic- ] [ pdinoto_ ] [ TobiX ] 18:34 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal] 18:53 < Baldzius> rxr: that is good option 18:53 < rxr> ok - I'll figure something out in the next days 18:55 -!- Enqlave [i=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 18:59 < rxr> Baldzius: do you prefer some virtualization / partitionizing solution from past work ? 19:01 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:01 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 19:01 < Baldzius> rxr: not familiar with virtualization yet so don't know just what's the best and easiest way to do that 19:11 < rxr> ok - off for dinner 19:11 < rxr> cu all 19:11 < rxr> oh and Baldzius: 19:11 < rxr> http://t2-project.org/zine/ 19:11 < rxr> ^- the next upcoming T2 community connection project 19:12 < rxr> + the still pending forum we are asked more often about these days 19:12 < Baldzius> :) 19:12 < Baldzius> forum is nice 19:12 < kic-> brb, need reboot 19:12 -!- kic- [i=rfoote@208.115.42.120] has quit ["."] 19:25 < DeeKey> YEP! I still ask the forum ;) 19:32 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z5f77.z.pppool.de] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 19:39 < DeeKey> i propose phpbb v 3.0 as a forum. This version will soon be released. There are nice flash tutorials: http://www.phpbb.com/support/tutorials/ 20:07 < Baldzius> phpbb doesn't look good from the security point 20:07 < Fatal> forums are generally a bad idea imho 20:08 -!- Enqlave|laptop [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 20:09 -!- kic- [i=rfoote@208.115.42.120] has joined #t2 20:10 < kic-> ls 20:10 < kic-> oops 20:10 < kic-> re 20:11 < Baldzius> Fatal: why? 20:11 < Baldzius> wb kic- 20:11 < kic-> thanks 20:11 < kic-> rene: 20:11 < kic-> are these http://osiris.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/unstable/7.0-trunk/i486/ the iso's you got from me? 20:14 -!- TobiX [i=tobias@zoidberg.org] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:15 -!- TobiX [i=tobias@zoidberg.org] has joined #t2 20:24 < DeeKey> Baldzius: phpbb doesn't look good from the security point 20:24 < DeeKey> That is because it is wide spread. And anyway rxr is going to install it on virtual machine... 20:50 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@87.198.192.226] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:43 < kic-> ok 21:43 < kic-> maybe someone can help me 21:43 < kic-> hehe 21:43 < kic-> i have an interesting problem 21:43 < kic-> so i have a squashfs on an embedded system.. 21:44 < kic-> originally, it was just squashfs, but then i found that i couldn't write to /etc/resolv.conf because squashfs was read only 21:45 < kic-> OK, so solution was to put in the overlay, so that rootfs was writable in ramdisk 21:45 < kic-> OK 21:45 < kic-> but now, i do not want /sbin, or /bin or any other rootfs directory to be able to be rm -rf'd * 21:46 < Ragnar|away> can't you just overlay /etc? 21:47 < kic-> but how would i configure that? 21:47 < kic-> or even better, can i just overlay /etc/resolv.conf 21:47 < kic-> ? 21:47 < Ragnar|away> I dunno ... never worked with overlays >.< 21:48 < kic-> ok, time to research :D 21:48 < Ragnar|away> what you also could do is mount none /conf -t tmpfs and ln -s /conf/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf 21:49 < Ragnar|away> so you don't need an overlay at all 21:51 < kic-> hrm 21:51 < kic-> cant touch a file in squashfs rootfs 21:52 < kic-> which i believe, would also include a symlink 21:52 < Ragnar|away> hm? why not? 21:52 < kic-> squashfs is read-only 21:52 < Ragnar|away> you create the squashfs don't you? 21:52 < kic-> yeah 21:52 < kic-> well 21:52 < kic-> T2 does 21:52 < kic-> but yea 21:52 < Ragnar|away> so you can put the link there at creating time 21:53 < kic-> hrm 22:01 < kic-> what would i put in my target rootfs 22:02 < kic-> to create that 22:02 < kic-> t2 builds my rootfs from target/mytarget/rootfs 22:02 < kic-> which contains etc, sbin, and all that 22:03 < Ragnar|away> just put the link there? 22:03 < kic-> wouldn't that break the pointer though? 22:03 < kic-> and it would have to link across to a jffs file system 22:03 < kic-> i believe 22:04 < Ragnar|away> or you can change target/mytarget/build_image.sh 22:04 < Ragnar|away> no just make sure the link is absolute not relative 22:28 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@vaio.aixmarseille.com] has joined #t2 22:44 < rxr> re 22:44 < rxr> hey 22:49 < DeeKey> hello! ;) 22:50 < DeeKey> playing with xen... 22:51 < rxr> DeeKey: :-) 22:52 < rxr> kic-: yes that is the path I put your isos in for now 22:52 < rxr> had no time to think about sorting today .. 22:53 < rxr> ah - Ragnar|away I was some scrollback yestion from you the other night 22:53 < DeeKey> rxr: what you use for virtualisation? 22:53 < rxr> varius stuff 22:54 < rxr> I started to use Xen a little but all the python junk did not feel quite right 22:54 < rxr> that is also why I did not fully integrate it into T2 22:54 < rxr> (though more Xen patches welcome - in generally we apply anything that is written cleanly :-) 22:54 < kic-> rxr: ok, just making sure that you knew they were 8.0-trunk iso's and not 7.0 :D 22:55 < rxr> yeah - though trunk did not drift much yet, so I was feeling sorting it into the current 7.0 series would fit as well 22:55 < rxr> but I agree, for precise numbering it should be in a 8.0-trunk 22:56 < rxr> ah Ragnar|away it was: 22:56 < rxr> 23:38 < Ragnar|away> rxr: hmmm how easy would it be to enforce all shared libs 22:56 < rxr> on a system to be PIC? 22:56 < rxr> ^-> no it isn't that easy, because when a .c file is compiled T2 can not know beforehand if it will end up in a .so 22:57 < rxr> you could, however, use our GCC wrapper to inject -fPIC everywhere 22:57 < rxr> however, this could break one or another static library 22:57 < rxr> using hand cruft assembly, like media codecs 22:57 < rxr> - not only static libs, but also single binaries using that 22:58 < rxr> Ragnar|away: why did you ask, because of some "relocation error, recompile with -fPIC error?" 22:58 < rxr> for this offending libs we have the FPIC-QUIRK tag just injecting -fPIC for this single package - but you probably know that 22:58 < rxr> the situation will become better as soon as the GCC folks finished their link-time-optimation stuff (LTO= 22:58 < rxr> ) 23:00 < rxr> this generates intermedia representation and just real machine binary instruction on the file link, thus being able to do version stuff, including whole-program dead-code analysis, whole-program inlining, and so on ... 23:00 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:00 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 23:03 -!- itsu [n=user@i59F5CDC1.versanet.de] has joined #t2 23:03 < itsu> hi there 23:03 < itsu> can anyone help me with a per package modification ? 23:03 < rxr> oh, and for the virtualization stuff, I use qemu extensivly for hardware near code (linux kernel, early user-space and others), and with kvm it becomes sort of production ready for actual server use + vserver for lightweight server partitionizing 23:04 < rxr> in the past I also used Mac On Linux extensively - and I wish there would be something I could run the current Intel OS X stuff in ... 23:04 < rxr> unfortunetly I have to rebot some Mac from Linux to the mirror world everytime a Mac customer calls :-((( 23:05 < itsu> i don't get it from the docs 23:05 < itsu> i want to apply a configure option for a certain packet 23:05 < itsu> so i made the file config/pkg_mypackage.conf 23:05 < rxr> yes 23:06 < rxr> config ? 23:06 < itsu> i read in the manual 23:06 < rxr> do you have your own target? 23:06 < rxr> ough, if there is config/pkg_whatever in the manual we should fix it, if you have the page handy, let me know 23:06 < itsu> yes 23:07 < itsu> Per Package Modifications 23:07 < itsu> mom 23:07 < rxr> if you have your own target, then it is target/your-target-name/pkg_mypackage.conf 23:07 < itsu> the manual say something like "Per Package Modifications" 23:07 < itsu> checking now 23:08 < itsu> sorry i was a bit wrong 23:08 < itsu> i used the generic targe with minimum build 23:09 < itsu> added nmap to it and need to apply --without-nmapfe 23:09 < itsu> i wanted to place it into the conf as the manual suggests 23:09 < rxr> hm - ok 23:09 < rxr> use target/generic/pkg_nmap.conf for now 23:10 < itsu> how should the conf file look in this case ? 23:11 < itsu> only the --without-nmapfe should be added to derived config 23:11 < rxr> if you want to re-use the existing config then 23:11 < rxr> target/generic/pkg_nmap_post.conf 23:11 < rxr> with the line 23:12 < rxr> var_append confopt ' ' '--without-nmapfe' 23:16 < itsu> didnt work rxt 23:17 < itsu> rxr 23:17 < itsu> :-) 23:17 < itsu> still complaining the missing config option 23:17 < rxr> hm ? 23:17 < rxr> what missing config option 23:17 < rxr> ? 23:17 < itsu> --without-nmapfe 23:18 < itsu> i did the steps you advised 23:19 < rxr> what is the exact error ? 23:19 < itsu> mom 23:24 < rxr> valentin: maybe you can help itsu when he found the log 23:24 < itsu> i sent it to you rxr private to not mess the chat 23:24 < rxr> as I'm on a 3G connection in my bedroom ... :-) 23:24 < rxr> cu tomorrow morning 23:24 < rxr> itsu: oh - ok 23:25 < rxr> wil reply in the morning then 23:25 < rxr> cu alll 23:25 < itsu> thx rxr 23:27 -!- Enqlave|laptop [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 23:33 < Ragnar|away> rxr: no, PAX as included in grsec 23:34 < Ragnar|away> which requires all shared objects to be position independent 23:35 < Ragnar|away> http://www.grsecurity.net/wiki/index.php/GrsecurityUserLandConfiguration 23:36 < Ragnar|away> hmmm tho this talks about executables ... 23:37 -!- Enqlave|laptop [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 23:44 < kic-> oops 23:44 < kic-> T2 maybe requires either unionfs or aufs 23:44 < kic-> ? 23:44 < kic-> can't remove both maybe? 23:45 < Ragnar|away> I'm building without both o_o 23:45 < kic-> ok 23:45 < kic-> just checkin 23:45 < kic-> :D 23:49 -!- itsu [n=user@i59F5CDC1.versanet.de] has left #t2 [] 23:53 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-16-123-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has quit ["Leaving."] --- Log closed Sat Oct 06 00:00:38 2007