--- Log opened Sun Sep 02 00:00:20 2007 00:01 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-19-20-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has quit ["Leaving."] 00:22 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:22 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 00:50 -!- yokoy_ [n=yokoy@e178072250.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["leaving"] 08:03 -!- netson99 [n=netson99@210.210.181.227] has joined #t2 09:04 < rxr> re 09:52 < rxr> http://www.steve-jobs.com/ 09:52 < rxr> http://iphone.include7.ch/wordpress/?page_id=2 09:52 < rxr> ^- iPhone unlocking in EN & DE .-) 10:13 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-19-20-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has joined #t2 10:14 < DeeKey> morning! 10:29 < rxr> moin DeeKey 10:29 [Users #t2] 10:29 [@ChanServ] [ DeeKey] [ happycube] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] 10:29 [ CIA-24 ] [ dsoul ] [ kic- ] [ netson99] [ sepp ] 10:29 [ cyda ] [ emte__] [ kic_ ] [ pdinoto_] [ TobiX ] 10:29 [ Dallur ] [ Fatal ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ valentin] 10:29 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal] 10:32 < DeeKey> rxr: great that you are here :) 10:32 < DeeKey> I wanted to ask you 10:34 < DeeKey> I am loading kernel from NFS. 10:34 < DeeKey> But the problem is that that the kernel compiled with T2 does not load from NFS! 10:34 < DeeKey> if i compile kernel standalone, it works! 10:34 < DeeKey> If I load T2 linux kernel with the GROOB it also loads! 10:34 < DeeKey> What is the problem? 10:35 < DeeKey> Configuration is the same for two kernels! 10:42 < rxr> hm - no idea, I never had such a problem 10:42 < DeeKey> :( 11:58 -!- itsu [n=user@i577BA0E3.versanet.de] has joined #t2 11:58 < itsu> hi there 11:59 < itsu> can anyone help me on dependency resolution for packets ? 12:05 < rxr> maybe 12:05 < rxr> quat problem are you facing ? 12:06 < itsu> i had a minimalistic config 12:06 < rxr> ^-what 12:06 < itsu> afterwards i wanted to build nmap which has many deps 12:07 < itsu> so how do i make those deps without recompiling the whole target ? 12:07 < itsu> ah . good evening rxr, didn't notice it was you , sorry dude 12:07 < rxr> you can just add them to yoru pkgsel 12:07 < rxr> and run Build-Target 12:07 < rxr> it will just build what was not yet built 12:08 < itsu> pkgsel ? 12:08 < itsu> i edited the config file manually 12:08 < rxr> but you have your package selection somewhere ? 12:09 < itsu> yes ! 12:09 < rxr> ok - in target/... or just in config/... ? 12:09 < itsu> just config.. 12:09 < rxr> ok - which file or so did you edit manually ? 12:10 < itsu> in config/myown/config 12:10 < itsu> no wait 12:10 < itsu> thats wrong checking... 12:10 < rxr> you mean custom package selection ruless ? 12:10 < itsu> config/myown/packages 12:10 < itsu> thats the one 12:11 < itsu> so how do i add generally a package from a pre-selected config ? 12:11 < rxr> oh - you edit this manually ? 12:11 < itsu> yes 12:12 < itsu> which is a bad idea i guess now 12:17 -!- itsu [n=user@i577BA0E3.versanet.de] has left #t2 [] 12:17 -!- itsu [n=user@i577BA0E3.versanet.de] has joined #t2 12:18 < itsu> sorry got dropped out rxr 12:18 < rxr> yes 12:18 < itsu> did i miss anything regarding the pkgsel ? 12:18 < rxr> it is generated on every Config run 12:18 < rxr> run the Config 12:18 < rxr> enable expert options 12:18 < itsu> okay 12:18 < rxr> eneble custom package selection and then add rules like 12:18 < itsu> im there right now 12:18 < rxr> X nmap 12:18 < rxr> X what 12:18 < rxr> X ever 12:18 < itsu> okay , i thougt so , but couldn't figure it out on myown 12:19 < itsu> ill give it a try right now 12:19 < itsu> thanx , ill give feedback on the progress as this could be usefull for newbee guide ;-) 12:19 < itsu> have nice we 12:28 -!- itsu [n=user@i577BA0E3.versanet.de] has left #t2 [] 12:33 -!- itsu [n=user@i577BA0E3.versanet.de] has joined #t2 12:37 < CIA-24> susan * r25848 /trunk/package/doc/howtos/howtos.desc: * updated howtos (20070825 -> 20070901) 12:37 < CIA-24> rene * r25845 /trunk/package/filesystem/ntfs-3g/ntfs-3g.desc: * updated ntfs-3g (1.810 -> 1.826) 12:37 < CIA-24> susan * r25849 /trunk/package/network/aoetools/aoetools.desc: * updated aoetools (18 -> 19) 12:39 < CIA-24> rene * r25846 /trunk/package/mail/exim/exim.desc: * updated exim (4.67 -> 4.68) 12:59 < sepp> moin :) 13:01 < itsu> moin, moin 13:01 < rxr> hi sepp 13:02 < sepp> hi itsu, rxr :) 13:03 < sepp> make bootstrap takes over 1h for cvsmacs, wow 13:03 < sepp> that is slow 13:06 < rxr> probably it builds an AI engine and tries to understand it's own code afterwards 13:06 < DeeKey> rxr: is it possible to copy bzImage to build directory during the T2 build? 13:07 < rxr> bzImage is copied to /boot 13:07 < rxr> that is vmlinuz 13:07 < DeeKey> vmlinuz does requre system map to start... 13:07 < rxr> not that I know 13:07 < DeeKey> Maybe that is the problem, I cannot start the kernel from NFS.. 13:08 < DeeKey> According to this answer, vmlinuz is not the same as bzImage.... 13:08 < DeeKey> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/8309-manual-kernal-rebuild-problem.html 13:09 < rxr> that depends on the platform as well 13:09 < rxr> depending on the distribution history the images are all named different anyway 13:09 < sepp> hehe 13:09 < rxr> in t2 on x86 you get vmlinux, which is the "vanilla ELF image" and the vmlinuz which is the bzImage from the linux build 13:09 < rxr> and yes 13:10 < rxr> I myself thought in the past already to install the bzImage as bzImage into /boot .-) 13:10 < rxr> just historic compatibility stopped me from doing so 13:12 < DeeKey> but still I cannot find out why standalone kernel can be booted from NFS and T2 compiled kernel can only be booted from GRUB! 13:14 < rxr> grub has no system map whatever at hand as well 13:14 < rxr> how do you load it ? 13:15 < DeeKey> using pxe 13:15 < DeeKey> boot with dhcp 13:15 < sepp> what package provides 'update-desktop-database' ? 13:16 < DeeKey> the process of loading is described here http://www.digitalpeer.com/id/linuxnfs 13:17 < rxr> -bash: /bin/grep: Argument list too long 13:17 < rxr> desktop-file-utils:desktop-file-utils: usr/bin/update-desktop-database 13:17 < sepp> ahh, thanks 13:18 < sepp> would be nice if one could query the info from a refbuild online somewhere 13:19 < rxr> yes, that was the next plan 13:19 < rxr> actually we nearly only got this big new box to speed up reference builds 13:20 < rxr> and to start providing even a binary pre-buitl repository of everything that cross builds for all supported architecture / c-library combinations 13:21 < sepp> :) 13:28 < DeeKey> spotted in linux log the following lines: 13:28 < DeeKey> BUILD arch/i386/boot/bzImage 13:28 < DeeKey> Root device is (8, 4) 13:28 < DeeKey> Boot sector 512 bytes 13:28 < DeeKey> What is that Root device? 13:31 < rxr> some kernel default 13:31 < rxr> it is not really used today 13:31 < rxr> that is just a hardcoding the kernel uses as last resort fallback 13:31 < rxr> we do not mess with that - the kernel does this itself 13:33 < DeeKey> yeh rxr: it seems like a bug: 13:33 < DeeKey> If you use own linux.cfg file, and add a patch which contains new kernel config option, that the default configuration will not be used by T2. 13:34 < DeeKey> will be used UTS settings 13:39 < rxr> hm 13:39 < rxr> ah - I saw something like that in the scrollback 13:39 < rxr> if you could hand me some testcase I can take a look and fix it 13:42 < DeeKey> ok. I will send you two kernel config files. 13:49 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-97.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 14:43 -!- itsu [n=user@i577BA0E3.versanet.de] has left #t2 [] 15:05 < sepp> 'error: template with C linkage' what is that supposed to mean? 15:07 < rxr> no idea, maybe mixing a C++ template with extern "C" or so ??? 15:07 < rxr> never saw such an message :-) 15:07 < sepp> no C/C++ mix, i already checked that 15:07 < sepp> +extern 15:07 < rxr> maybe some tool doesn't like a symbol named "template" at all ? 15:07 < sepp> hmmm 15:08 * rxr lunching 15:08 < rxr> cu 15:08 < sepp> cu later :) 15:29 -!- itsu [n=user@i577BA0E3.versanet.de] has joined #t2 15:36 < CIA-24> susan * r25851 /trunk/package/security/vpnc/vpnc.desc: * updated vpnc (0.4.0 -> 0.5.0) 15:36 < CIA-24> susan * r25850 /trunk/package/x11/afterstep/afterstep.desc: * updated afterstep (2.2.6 -> 2.2.7) 15:37 < CIA-24> rene * r25853 /trunk/package/scientific/maxima/maxima.desc: * updated maxima (5.12.0 -> 5.13.0) 15:37 < CIA-24> rene * r25854 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.5.2.4 -> 1.5.2.5) 15:37 < CIA-24> rene * r25852 /trunk/package/x11/mowitz/mowitz.desc: * updated mowitz (0.3.0 -> 0.3.1) 15:38 < CIA-24> rene * r25855 /trunk/package/develop/ginac/ginac.desc: * updated ginac (1.3.7 -> 1.4.0) 15:42 < CIA-24> susan * r25847 /trunk/package/security/openct/openct.desc: * updated openct (0.6.13 -> 0.6.14) 15:42 -!- netson99 [n=netson99@210.210.181.227] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:42 -!- netson99 [n=netson99@210.210.181.227] has joined #t2 15:44 < CIA-24> sebastian * r25856 /trunk/package/graphic/enblend/ (enblend.cache enblend.conf enblend.desc max.patch): * updated enblend (2.5 -> 3.0) 16:29 < rxr> re 16:36 < sepp> huhu :) 16:37 < itsu> huibuuh 16:37 < itsu> ;-) 16:40 < mqueiros_> Moin 16:40 < mqueiros_> rxr: Sent you an email yesterday, about the "newbie guide"... 16:41 < rxr> yes, read it already 16:41 < rxr> where do we want to sort it into the menu ? 16:42 < mqueiros_> it is a work in progress... will be adding some more things... 16:42 < mqueiros_> maybe Documentation ? 16:53 < rxr> it's a little bit like: http://t2-project.org/documentation/buildintro.html 16:54 < mqueiros_> yes it is... it turned out to be... but I plan to add some more things... 16:54 < mqueiros_> to try to make it more newbie oriented... 16:56 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z7b27.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 17:05 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z407a.z.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:19 < LMJ> hi 17:19 < rxr> hi LMJ 17:19 < LMJ> hello rxr 17:25 < sepp_> hello LMJ 17:26 < LMJ> how are you guys ? 17:28 < sepp_> tired 17:29 < sepp_> testing my just finished trunk image :) 17:30 < LMJ> with Ooo ? ;) 17:31 < sepp_> no 17:33 < LMJ> vlc compiles ? 17:33 < rxr> should 17:33 < rxr> build/reference-8.0-trunk-reference-x86-pentiumpro/var/adm/logs/5-vlc.log 17:33 < rxr> ^- just trunk:HEAD reference build ... 17:33 < LMJ> and wxpython ? 17:33 * rxr grabbing a coffe ... 17:34 < rxr> build/reference-8.0-trunk-reference-x86-pentiumpro/var/adm/logs/5-wxpython.log 17:34 < rxr> ^- but that is 32bit 17:34 < rxr> "maybe" we have a 64bit related build error for those 17:34 < LMJ> I guess sepp_ did a 64b target 17:35 < sepp_> no wxpy or vlc for me ... 17:35 < LMJ> Should I paste my error about dvd+rwtools, dvdrip, wxwidgets, vlc, avifile, wxpython ? :-P 17:38 < rxr> you have no fresh build, but a continously updated system? 17:38 -!- its1 [n=user@i577B8A7C.versanet.de] has joined #t2 17:38 < rxr> LMJ: I ask because the dvd+rwtools error you once pasted was due to defect /include/scsi header files ... 17:38 < sepp_> something is wrong with udev 17:39 < sepp_> no /dev/hda? 17:39 < sepp_> but it is there in fdisk and /proc/partitions 17:40 < LMJ> yes rxr, continously updated system 17:43 < LMJ> sepp_ : you built a fresh trunk system because you have a problem with your current one ? 17:43 < sepp_> no 17:44 < sepp_> just to see what it broken :p 17:45 < rxr> sepp_: maybe your hda changed to sda 17:45 < rxr> sepp_: you know that the linux kernel folks are migrating all old PATA driver to use libata and thus export sda block device s? 17:46 < sepp_> /dev/hda is there, just not /dev/hda{1,2} after i created partitions with fdisk 17:46 < sepp_> had to manually mknod them 17:47 < LMJ> ;) 17:47 < sepp_> no sda... 17:48 < rxr> ouhm 17:51 < sepp_> http://89.61.123.39/boot.jpg 17:52 < its1> classic 17:52 < its1> vmware uses a ide drive 17:52 < its1> give it a scsi disk and youre done ! 17:52 < its1> this problem occurs since some months in t2 17:52 < sepp_> i have also real ide drives 17:53 -!- netson99 [n=netson99@210.210.181.227] has left #t2 [] 17:53 < its1> i have been posting this issue already on the t2-mailing list 17:53 < its1> u need a scsi disk inside the vmware-maschine 17:53 < sepp_> and scsi is default, gives the same error 17:53 < its1> did u hit enter there ? 17:53 < sepp_> i manually changed it to ide 17:53 < its1> i also get these messages during install 17:54 < sepp_> sure, it boots, but there is still a problem with /dev/ 17:54 < its1> what vmware do you have ? 17:54 < sepp_> 6 17:54 < its1> oh.. 17:55 < its1> im having these problems on the vmware-server version 17:55 < its1> so i am not sure for the ws-version 17:55 -!- itsu [n=user@i577BA0E3.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:59 < sepp_> ok, removed the other images :p 18:16 -!- its1 [n=user@i577B8A7C.versanet.de] has left #t2 [] 18:17 -!- its1 [n=user@i577B8A7C.versanet.de] has joined #t2 18:17 < rxr> sepp_: as long time T2 user, did it happen that you wiped your config/... by running multiple Config instances in parallel ? 18:18 < sepp_> yes, happend some long time ago 18:19 < rxr> ok - so you are careful and it doesn#t happen that often ? :-) 18:19 < sepp_> ok, beside the /dev/hd-or-whatever thingy it boots after the installation 18:20 < rxr> I ask because I work on locking code for the config ... 18:20 < sepp_> at least in vmware 18:21 < sepp_> man, i even forgot how ugly vanilla gtk is 18:21 < rxr> hm ? 18:21 < sepp_> lol 18:21 < sepp_> i can only install if i manually mknod /dev/hda1 ... 18:22 < rxr> oh - sounds like a bug I saw already 18:22 < rxr> guess I hunt it soonish 18:25 < rxr> somehow udevd is not properly restarted anymore ... 18:26 < sepp_> you saw the boot screenshot? 18:26 < rxr> nope 18:26 < sepp_> http://89.61.123.39/boot.jpg ... 18:28 < rxr> heh - Config has a -delete option 18:28 < rxr> how useful :-) 18:28 < rxr> if [ $delete_mode = 1 ] ; then 18:28 < rxr> rm -rv config/$config 18:28 < rxr> exit $? 18:29 < sepp_> gtk widgets (like the file dialog) can not find its own crappy icons, damn, someone has a clue? 18:29 < sepp_> at least what the name would be so that i can find it with strace 18:30 < rxr> probably in /opt/gnome2/share/pixmaps ... stock ... something 18:30 < rxr> did you run the postinstall stuff? 18:30 < rxr> I think it runs some gtk-icon-cache something ... 18:30 < rxr> all the many re-gen cache files get quite massive these days 18:33 < sepp_> that was running at postinstall 18:36 < sepp_> package hicolor-icon-theme has no files in it, just dirs 18:36 < sepp_> weird 18:39 < CIA-24> sebastian * r25857 /trunk/package/ruby/ruby/r12567.patch: * imported upstream extern/C++ fix for ruby 18:39 < CIA-24> sebastian * r25859 /trunk/package/graphic/gimp/end-decls.patch: * imported upstream gimp patch, missing G_END_DECLS 18:40 < rxr> sepp_: did you ever used the "config backup" "feature" where the config is copied to src/config something in the case the Config screws up ? 18:41 < sepp_> uhm, hicolor is the fallback but that is the only place it looks at, not gnome prefix 18:41 < sepp_> no, but i rescued it from build/etc... 18:41 < sepp_> before 18:46 < sepp_> ohh man, someone moving into the house, i am out 18:47 < rxr> hm ? 18:47 < CIA-24> sebastian * r25858 /trunk/package/ruby/fxruby/fxruby.desc: * updated fxruby (1.6.6 -> 1.6.11) 18:47 < sepp_> running away from the construction site nise 18:47 < sepp_> noise 18:48 < rxr> heh 18:56 < CIA-24> rene * r25860 /trunk/scripts/Config: 18:56 < CIA-24> * implemented config/.../ locking, to not wipe the precious 18:56 < CIA-24> configuration with parallel script/Config runs 18:56 < CIA-24> * removed the only partially useful (because it was backed up to a 18:56 < CIA-24> fixed location that was overwritten by parallel runs anyway :-) and 18:56 < CIA-24> seldom used backup feature 19:25 < rxr> sepp_: ok, what's next most useful? flist search and man-page viewer, ? 19:25 < rxr> online near the package matrix 19:37 < sepp_> flist, one can already google all manpages 20:05 < sepp_> going to install on real hardware ... 20:05 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z7b27.z.pppool.de] has quit ["leaving"] 20:47 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z514e.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 20:47 < sepp> moin :) 20:49 < LMJ> moin 20:49 < sepp> :) 21:04 -!- Ragnarin is now known as Ragnar|away 21:56 < its1> hi there 21:56 < its1> can anyone help me with building nmap 21:56 < its1> there seems to be a problem with this one 21:58 < mqueiros_> itsl: are you building trunk ? 21:59 < its1> yep 21:59 < its1> seems like nmap is configured with frontend 22:00 < its1> but i don't want the whole gui thing 22:00 < its1> the package complains that it cannot build the frontend 22:00 < mqueiros_> Nmap built fine in trunk on my desktop target... 22:00 < its1> but i don't have desktop target 22:01 < its1> e.g. a minimal built for a router cannot have all the x11 stuff 22:01 < mqueiros_> of course... 22:01 < its1> so how do i get it built then ... ? 22:01 < mqueiros_> can you post the error in pastebin.com ? 22:02 < its1> im on it .. 22:07 -!- kic^ [n=rfoote@adsl-144-22-136.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #t2 22:11 < its1> http://pastebin.com/d41df25f0 22:12 < mqueiros_> it seems you are compiling the nampfe (Nmap Front end) and not NMAP it self... 22:13 < mqueiros_> nope... it seems that nmapfe is part of nmap... 22:13 < mqueiros_> although they should be diferent packages... 22:14 < its1> thats what i say 22:14 < its1> i could repack the package with nmapfe disabled for now 22:14 < its1> since i need nmap for the cli 22:14 < kic^> block2mtd is such a pain in the arseee 22:14 < its1> or can i attach a config in t2 for that package somehow ? 22:16 < mqueiros_> itsl: yes nmapfe is part of namp Take a look at: http://insecure.org/nmap/download.html 22:16 < its1> so what do we do if nmap is needed in a slim build-target ? 22:16 < mqueiros_> itsl: It might be possible to compile namp withou the frontend... 22:16 < its1> the gtk+ deps seems to resolve fine 22:16 < its1> be repacking the package 22:16 < its1> ? 22:17 < its1> i cannot do emerge-pkg so is it possible via build-target ? 22:17 < mqueiros_> itsl: it is possible with --without-nmapfe 22:17 < its1> yes i know that 22:18 < its1> but how do i involve the option with t2 ? 22:18 < sepp> pkginstalled gtk+ || var_append confopt ' ' '--without-nmapfe' 22:18 < its1> sorry i am bit noob on the t2-build structure but learning constantly these days 22:18 < mqueiros_> never done it before... I'm a noob to ! 22:18 < its1> cool :-) 22:18 < sepp> just throw that line into the nmap.conf 22:18 < mqueiros_> sepp: Thanks! 22:19 < sepp> if there is one 22:19 < sepp> if not, make one with that line 22:19 < its1> that would be located where in the tree ? 22:19 < mqueiros_> sepp: there's not an nmap.conf 22:19 < mqueiros_> just cache and desc 22:19 < sepp> make one :) 22:19 < mqueiros_> ok... :) 22:19 < its1> okay sepp , so how do i do that exactly ? 22:20 < mqueiros_> probably just create the nmap.conf and put it in the same dir as the other files... 22:20 < its1> where exactly ? 22:20 < its1> on /dev/null/nmap.conf ;-) 22:20 < its1> ? 22:21 < mqueiros_> probably in t2-trunk/package/security/nmap 22:21 < its1> just kidding ... 22:21 < sepp> echo "pkginstalled gtk+ || var_append confopt ' ' '--without-nmapfe'" > package/security/nmap/nmap.conf 22:21 < sepp> in the t2 dir ... 22:21 < its1> allright ill give it a try asap 22:21 < its1> afk 22:22 < kic^> shouldn't it be >> instead of > ? 22:22 < kic^> or is there not already an nmap.conf 22:22 < its1> theres no nmap.conf 22:23 < its1> thats what all the fuzz is about 22:23 < kic^> ahh 22:23 < mqueiros_> itsl: yes... you must create one 22:23 < kic^> well there ya go 22:23 < kic^> :D 22:23 < mqueiros_> itsl: I think T2 will automatically detect it and apply it ! 22:23 < kic^> bash-3.2# scripts/Create-ErrList -dry-run -cfg safemedia 22:23 < kic^> Error logs from safemedia-8.0-trunk-safemedia-x86-64-nocona: 22:23 < kic^> 341 builds total, 11 completed fine, 0 with errors, 330 to go. 22:23 < kic^> bash-3.2# 22:23 < kic^> heh, long while to go 22:24 < its1> nmap is building... 22:25 < its1> build done as expected . thanx dudez ;-) 22:26 < its1> t2 rock(s) little allegory :-) 22:26 < mqueiros_> :) 22:27 < its1> wait a secon 22:27 < its1> the build is done much 2 fast 22:27 < its1> seems the package build process considers the job done 22:27 < its1> but the package isn't actually build 22:29 < its1> ? 22:30 < mqueiros_> itsl: did you done it with: Build-target -cfg yourconfig -job 5-nmap ? 22:30 < its1> yes 22:31 < its1> the process ended like a succesfull package build 22:31 < its1> but the packet isn't in the tree 22:31 < mqueiros_> its1: would it be faster because of not building the frontend ? 22:32 < its1> the packet is supposed to be in the build path build/cfg/toolchain/packets/nmap.tar.bz2 22:32 < its1> but that is not the case 22:34 < mqueiros_> ist1: don't you have "nmap" in build/config/usr/bin ? 22:35 < its1> sorry guys 22:35 < its1> picked the wrong tree 22:35 < its1> everything there now 22:35 < mqueiros_> ok 22:36 < mqueiros_> I will probably be putting this example in the "newbie guide to T2" ! :) 22:36 < its1> i should cleanup the mess on my build-host 22:36 < its1> sometimes things go updown 22:36 < kic^> wee, rolling into stagge 1 22:36 < its1> thanx, i was worthing it to be mentioned 22:36 < its1> @mqueiros: t2 still is way cool 22:37 < mqueiros_> itsl: Yes... 22:37 < its1> when rxr gets initramfs done t2 will be a real killer 22:37 < mqueiros_> I keep saying itsl while it should be its1 ! 22:37 < its1> no problem 22:37 < its1> its actually itsu ( who me ?... ;-) ) 22:40 < mqueiros_> nmap should be separeted in nmap and nmapfe... 22:41 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-19-20-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has quit ["Leaving."] 22:41 < its1> well when dependecy-check recognizes the missing gtk+ X11 stuff it should be enough to disable nampfe via option 22:42 < its1> i guess... 22:43 < mqueiros_> as soon as possible I will try to take a look at it... haven't had the time to learn this kind of stuff... 22:44 < its1> right ... we all learn until the day well ... yeah we all know whats meant ;-) 22:45 < kic^> glibc is a beast 22:46 -!- its1 [n=user@i577B8A7C.versanet.de] has left #t2 [] 22:46 -!- itsu [n=user@i577B8A7C.versanet.de] has joined #t2 22:47 < itsu> back again :-) 22:47 < mqueiros_> you are building your embedded stuff ? 22:47 < sepp> huhu :) 22:48 < itsu> ? 22:48 < sepp> ? ? 22:49 < itsu> @mqueiros_: who do you mean ? 22:49 < mqueiros_> itsu: you said you where building for a router... :) 22:49 < itsu> yes ... 22:49 < itsu> i am using a minimal configuration and adding stuff like iptraf openvpn and the like 22:49 < mqueiros_> nice... :) 22:49 < itsu> works pretty cool 22:50 < itsu> on what target are u working on ? 22:50 < kic^> what fs you going to use? 22:50 < mqueiros_> itsu: I'v started with generic... but now I'm using desktop, just for the fun... :) 22:50 < itsu> ah cool 22:51 < kic^> i think generic = 2000+ pkgs :D 22:51 < itsu> im @kic^: jfs 22:51 < kic^> itsu, cool, jffs or jffs2? 22:51 < itsu> dont know for sure 22:51 < itsu> i gues jfs 22:51 < kic^> i haven't messed with regular jfs yet 22:51 < kic^> but jffs2 is proving to be a pain 22:51 < itsu> at least the one t2 uses default 22:51 < itsu> why is that ? 22:52 < kic^> i think its just mostly because i'm trying to put it on a CF card 22:52 < kic^> instead of onboard flash or diskonchip module 22:52 < kic^> so i have to use block2mtd 22:52 < kic^> which is the real pain at the moment 22:52 < itsu> oh 22:52 < kic^> what kind of disk will your router have? 22:53 < itsu> thats why initramfs could come very handy 22:53 < itsu> my router has also a builtin flash disk 22:53 < itsu> but 22:53 < kic^> well, i'm loading rootfs into a squashfs image into ramdisk 22:53 < itsu> i pluged a usb-stick into the device 22:53 < kic^> but i need other mountable partitions that can retain data 22:53 < itsu> so now i am having a huge disk for cheap 22:54 < itsu> booting via usb is no problem with t2 22:54 < itsu> atm i have a 2gb usb-stick 22:54 < kic^> hrm, you might need block2mtd also then 22:54 < itsu> which is pretty fast 22:54 < itsu> no i dont 22:54 < kic^> how much RAM on the router? 22:54 < itsu> system is already running 22:54 < kic^> you don't? sweet 22:54 < itsu> 128mb ram 128mb flash 22:54 < kic^> woo, a 128mb onboard flash? you could do alot with that.. 22:54 < itsu> but the usb-disk has 2gb 22:55 < kic^> the CF's i'm working with are also 128mb 22:55 < kic^> yeah 22:55 < itsu> sorry. i meant 256mb flash 22:55 < kic^> ! 22:55 < itsu> i am using the flash for swap-device ;-) 22:55 < kic^> heh 22:55 < kic^> fast swap 22:55 < itsu> yes babyy 22:55 < itsu> kicks some serious ass 22:55 < kic^> what kind of router is it? 22:56 < kic^> commercially available? 22:56 < itsu> its a thinclient from *** 22:56 < itsu> its fun hacking standard hardware 22:56 < kic^> yah 23:08 < kic^> speaking of, brb, switching conections 23:13 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@208.115.42.117] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:13 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z514e.z.pppool.de] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 23:13 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@adsl-144-22-136.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #t2 23:13 < kic-> there 23:13 < kic-> thats better 23:28 -!- kic^ [n=rfoote@adsl-144-22-136.mia.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:38 -!- itsu [n=user@i577B8A7C.versanet.de] has left #t2 [] --- Log closed Mon Sep 03 00:00:21 2007