--- Log opened Wed Aug 29 00:00:14 2007 00:21 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z604b.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 00:36 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z4817.z.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:37 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 04:10 -!- Ryuo [n=raizen@CPE-75-81-39-145.kc.res.rr.com] has left #t2 [] 04:24 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:24 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 05:07 -!- netson99_ [n=netson99@210.210.181.95] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:08 -!- netson99_ [n=netson99@210.210.181.215] has joined #t2 05:29 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:29 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 05:34 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e179020184.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:36 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e179020184.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 06:17 -!- netson99_ [n=netson99@210.210.181.215] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:07 < CIA-24> susan * r25811 /trunk/package/develop/diffstat/diffstat.desc: * updated diffstat (1.43 -> 1.44) 08:07 < CIA-24> susan * r25812 /trunk/package/emulators/dosbox/dosbox.desc: * updated dosbox (0.71 -> 0.72) 08:31 < rxr> re 09:07 -!- Ragnarin is now known as Ragnar|away 10:29 -!- yokoy_ [n=yokoy@e179024062.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 10:43 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e179020184.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:44 < sepp> moin :) 11:54 < sepp> xemacs-beta has mole friendly menu fonts, any idea howto get them to a reasonable size, not 20 or so? 12:05 < rxr> re 12:05 < rxr> sepp: hm ? 12:05 < rxr> sepp: xemacs-beta menues are normally sized for me ... 12:05 < rxr> sepp: but, ok I have a 10 year old .xemacs config fluff .-) 12:06 < sepp> hmm 12:09 < sepp> i get massivly ugly fonts, but only in the menu, even as user without any old .(x)emacs files around 12:12 < sepp> maybe that is some athena crap, or whatever toolkit that is 12:21 < sepp> http://89.61.96.75/uglymacs.jpg ... 12:26 < rxr> heh - the Mac Pro survives a suspend to RAM under Linux ... 12:27 < rxr> CPU 7 is now offline 12:27 < rxr> SMP alternatives: switching to UP code 12:27 < rxr> CPU7 is down 12:27 < rxr> Extended CMOS year: 2000 12:27 < rxr> Back to C! 12:27 < rxr> Extended CMOS year: 2000 12:27 < rxr> ACPI Error (evgpe-0705): No handler or method for GPE[17], disabling event [20070126] 12:27 < rxr> Enabling non-boot CPUs ... 12:27 < rxr> SMP alternatives: switching to SMP code 12:27 < sepp> like all the time? 12:27 < rxr> that is a workstation 12:27 < rxr> not the *Book 12:27 < sepp> i know, the nice looking one 12:27 < rxr> I never saw aa 8-core workstaiton or server to suspend to RAM in Linux 12:28 < rxr> I have just tested it once for the fun of it 12:28 < rxr> (when I saw /sys/power/state listed mem :-) 12:28 < sepp> :) 12:28 < rxr> actually I did not expected it to wake up .-) 12:29 < rxr> the MacBook also resumes from suspend to RAM, but not 100% reliable 12:29 < rxr> the iBook 4 years ago was better ... 12:30 < rxr> with some older kernel (.21 or so) I had it near 99% reliable, as it was the xorg intel driver that f*cked it up sometimes 12:30 < rxr> I had to xrandr 2 times to the internal LCD and it worked 99% smoothly 12:30 < rxr> with current kernels it got a bit worse onthe MacBook ... 13:29 < rxr> sepp: oh - ok, my menues lok the same as on your screenshot 13:29 < rxr> I though you mean over ugly 13:30 < rxr> amd I disabled those tab (riders?) anyway .. 13:30 < rxr> sepp: which window manager si that ? 13:32 < sepp> ahhh, so that is normal 13:32 < sepp> e17 ... 13:37 < rxr> yes, probably to be configured 13:37 < rxr> but I do not liked the riders when they where introduced and disabled them for like 4years or so 13:37 < rxr> and the menu bar was not too ugly for me yet 13:37 < rxr> I find it more annoying that the selection of anti-alised text has off-by-one bugs 13:38 < rxr> and when you scroll with a selection it leaves 1 pixel horizontal garbage on the screen 13:38 < rxr> still readable, but annoying anyway 13:38 < rxr> even mailed them , but noone cared .... 13:39 < sepp> just the default xemacs without my chaotic config file 13:41 < sepp> but it is quite hard to google howto get the fat menu fonts reasonably small 13:42 < sepp> but i can use emacs from cvs, that has working anti-alised fonts ... 13:42 < sepp> gnumacs ... 14:27 < rxr> hm - what the heck is this about: 14:27 < rxr> ACPI: System BIOS is requesting _OSI(Linux) 14:27 < rxr> ACPI: Please test with "acpi_osi=!Linux" 14:27 < rxr> Please send dmidecode to linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org 16:13 < sepp> :) 17:16 < rxr> applesmc: Apple MacPro2 detected: 17:16 < rxr> applesmc: - Model without accelerometer 17:16 < rxr> applesmc: - Model without light sensors and backlight 17:16 < rxr> applesmc: - Model with 12 temperature sensors 17:16 < rxr> applesmc: device successfully initialized. 17:16 < rxr> applesmc: 4 fans found. 17:16 < rxr> applesmc: More than 2 fans found, but at most 2 fans are supported by the driver. 17:16 < rxr> hacked a little in the applesmc driver for the MacPro2 17:16 < rxr> as right now under load the SMC appears to hard-power-off the box ... 17:16 < rxr> probably due to overheat protection or so ... 17:19 < rxr> applesmc: 4 fans found. 17:19 < rxr> applesmc: driver successfully loaded. 17:19 < rxr> so 17:24 < rxr> ok - fans work :-) 17:24 < rxr> now I just need to probe how many temp sensors there are for real ... 17:32 [Users #t2] 17:32 [@ChanServ] [ emte_ ] [ LMJ_p ] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin] 17:32 [ CIA-24 ] [ Fatal ] [ mqueiros__] [ rxr ] [ yokoy_ ] 17:32 [ cyda ] [ happycube] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] 17:32 [ Dallur ] [ kic- ] [ pdinoto_ ] [ TobiX ] 17:32 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 17:32 < rxr> oh - btw, noatime is not that good for T2 builds, if you use ccache 17:32 < rxr> as we can only cleanup the ccache if we have the "lased access time info" 17:34 < rxr> fan1_label:CPU_MEM 17:34 < rxr> fan1_output:1250 17:34 < rxr> fan2_label:IO 17:34 < rxr> fan2_output:1250 17:34 < rxr> fan3_label:EXHAUST 17:34 < rxr> fan3_output:1250 17:34 < rxr> fan4_label:PS 17:34 < rxr> fan4_output:1250 17:34 < rxr> ^- ok, with this manual (for now) tweaks the box is still alive ... 17:34 < rxr> at this load: 17:34 < rxr> top - 17:35:54 up 51 min, 2 users, load average: 9.15, 5.33, 2.38 17:35 < rxr> Cpu0 : 89.4%us, 5.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 5.3%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st 17:35 < rxr> Cpu1 : 84.1%us, 8.6%sy, 0.0%ni, 6.0%id, 1.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st 17:35 < rxr> Cpu2 : 70.8%us, 17.9%sy, 0.0%ni, 10.6%id, 0.0%wa, 0.3%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st 17:35 < rxr> Cpu3 : 82.9%us, 8.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 9.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st 17:35 < rxr> Cpu4 : 84.3%us, 11.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 4.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st 17:35 < rxr> Cpu5 :100.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st 17:35 < rxr> Cpu6 : 98.3%us, 1.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st 17:35 < rxr> Cpu7 : 99.3%us, 0.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st 17:35 < rxr> puh 17:36 < rxr> I get hopes to get this under control and I do not have to RMA the things -.) 17:37 < sepp> do you run 16 gcc's now? 17:38 < rxr> == 17:29:41 =[2]=> Building base/gcc [4.2.1 8.0-trunk]. 17:38 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 37.29% (842 hits, 1416 misses) 17:38 < rxr> == 08/29/07 17:39:15 =[2]=> Finished building package gcc. 17:38 < rxr> PARALLEL_MAX is set to 8 17:39 < rxr> 8 cores 17:54 -!- Dallur [n=earl@194-144-10-228.du.xdsl.is] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:57 < rxr> applesmc: Apple MacPro2 detected: 17:57 < rxr> applesmc: - Model without accelerometer 17:57 < rxr> applesmc: - Model without light sensors and backlight 17:57 < rxr> applesmc: - Model with 35 temperature sensors 17:57 < rxr> applesmc: device successfully initialized. 17:57 < rxr> applesmc: wait status failed: 5 != 0 17:57 < rxr> applesmc: Cannot get the number of fans. 17:57 < rxr> applesmc: More temperature sensors in temperature_sensors_sets (at least 12)than available sysfs files in temperature_attributes (11), please report this bug. 17:57 < rxr> I hate this damn doomed harcoded linux driver sysfs crap ... 17:57 * rxr fixing more ... 17:58 < rxr> and yes, this 35 sensors appears to be correct ... :-) 17:59 -!- Dallur [n=earl@194-144-10-228.du.xdsl.is] has joined #t2 18:01 < happycube> mac pro octo... drool. 18:04 < kic-> re 18:05 < rxr> happycube: ? 18:39 < pdinoto_> hi, folks! 18:40 < pdinoto_> rxr: are you building openmoko target lately? does it use uclibc, right? 18:44 < rxr> yes uclibc 18:45 < rxr> interestin in the Neo, or using it as a base for some other device ? 18:48 < Ragnar|away> hihi 18:48 < rxr> hi Ragnarin 18:48 < Ragnar|away> hey rene 18:50 < Ragnar|away> I got it working yesterday :) 18:51 < rxr> ehrm ah the USB stuff ? 18:51 < rxr> what was it ? 18:51 -!- Ragnar|away is now known as Ragnarin 18:55 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-20-31-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has joined #t2 18:55 < DeeKey> Hello! 18:56 < rxr> hi DeeKey 18:56 [Users #t2] 18:56 [@ChanServ] [ DeeKey ] [ kic- ] [ pdinoto_] [ TobiX ] 18:56 [ CIA-24 ] [ emte_ ] [ LMJ_p ] [ Ragnarin] [ valentin] 18:56 [ cyda ] [ Fatal ] [ mqueiros__] [ rxr ] [ yokoy_ ] 18:56 [ Dallur ] [ happycube] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] 18:56 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] 18:57 < LMJ_p> moin 18:58 < rxr> hi LMJ_p 18:59 < rxr> Die Wolke reloaded 18:59 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/tr/artikel/94939 19:06 < LMJ_p> brb 19:06 -!- LMJ_p [n=LMJ@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:17 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 19:21 < Ragnarin> rxr: had to checkout cvs libnjb 19:26 < rxr> ah 19:29 < rxr> so - applesmc patch sent out 19:30 -!- tri_ [n=tri@p57ADA9CE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 19:30 < tri_> moin 19:31 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@208.115.42.117] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:31 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@208.115.42.117] has joined #t2 19:43 < Ragnarin> rxr: should I change the t2 libnjb package to go to cvs? 19:45 < tri_> moin 19:52 < rxr> Ragnarin: it's just for some media player thing anyway ? 19:52 < rxr> hi tri_ 19:52 [Users #t2] 19:52 [@ChanServ] [ DeeKey ] [ kic- ] [ pdinoto_] [ TobiX ] 19:52 [ CIA-24 ] [ emte_ ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ tri_ ] 19:52 [ cyda ] [ Fatal ] [ mqueiros__] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 19:52 [ Dallur ] [ happycube] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ yokoy_ ] 19:52 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal] 19:52 < rxr> http://people.exactcode.de/~rene/dieing-8-core-xeon.png 19:53 < Ragnarin> it's for gnomad ... for transfering files to a creative nomad 19:53 < rxr> well - you are the only T2 user using it anyway ? :-) 19:53 < Ragnarin> no clue? lol 19:53 < rxr> http://people.exactcode.de/~rene/MacPro-Temp.tiff 19:54 < Ragnarin> 8core? nice :) 19:54 < rxr> yeah - just had to hack the applesmc linux driver so that the box does not hard sudden power off during load .-) 19:54 < Ragnarin> o_o LOL 19:54 < tri_> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/95031 he ? 19:55 < tri_> how many ram is in this 8-core-xeon machine ? 19:55 < rxr> 8G 19:55 < tri_> :-) 19:56 < rxr> yeah 19:56 < rxr> long time no new workstaiton thing in our office, was time for a change 19:56 < rxr> the athlon in the corner took a week for a trunk test build ... 19:57 < tri_> maybe you have to move him to the floor - he doesn't like to work at the corner ? 19:58 < rxr> I doubt it is a mental problem :-) 20:01 < tri_> http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2007/11639.html 20:02 < tri_> yeah plan hacking :-) 20:03 < tri_> hopefully they plug every ip device in this airplan into the same hub 20:05 < tri_> anybody have allready used koffice-2 ? 20:07 < DeeKey> nope 20:07 < DeeKey> I only use OOO 20:07 < DeeKey> and plan to migrate to latex... 20:07 < Ragnarin> good luck 20:17 < DeeKey> :) 20:25 < rxr> 8pm++ time for dinner 20:26 < rxr> cu all 20:26 < Ragnarin> cya :) 20:27 < CIA-24> rene * r25813 /trunk/package/network/hylafax/hylafax.desc: * updated hylafax (5.1.7 -> 5.1.8) 20:29 -!- Ryuo [n=raizen@CPE-75-81-39-145.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 20:56 < tri_> nice, a geek p0rn side http://peepcode.com/ 21:02 < tri_> http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.html 21:20 < yokoy_> nabend 21:21 < yokoy_> tcp_wrappers do not (cross) build 21:21 < yokoy_> do we need tcp_wrappers for minimal? 21:25 < yokoy_> ranlib libwrap.a 21:25 < yokoy_> x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-gcc -O -DFACILITY=LOG_AUTHPRIV -DHOSTS_ACCESS -DGETPEERNAME_BUG -DBROKEN_FGETS -DLIBC_CALLS_STRTOK -DDAEMON_UMASK=022 -DREAL_DAEMON_DIR=\"/usr/sbin\" -DPROCESS_OPTIONS -DSEVERITY=LOG_INFO -DRFC931_TIMEOUT=10 -DHOSTS_DENY=\"/etc/hosts.deny\" -DHOSTS_ALLOW=\"/etc/hosts.allow\" -DSYS_ERRLIST_DEFINED -DBROKEN_SO_LINGER -DAPPEND_DOT -Dvsyslog=myvsyslog -o tcpd tcpd.o libwrap.a 21:25 < yokoy_> libwrap.a: could not read symbols: Archive has no index; run ranlib to add one 21:25 < yokoy_> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 21:25 < yokoy_> make[1]: *** [tcpd] Error 1 21:43 < tri_> if i try to build koffice2 21:44 < tri_> i get a error "make: Makefile.cvs: No such file or directory Stop." 21:44 < tri_> anybody knows how to solve this ? 21:52 < Ryuo> perhaps you need to run autoconf? 21:53 < Ryuo> or automake? 21:55 < tri_> hm i try to build it with the t2 build script 21:56 -!- tri_ [n=tri@p57ADA9CE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #t2 [] 21:57 -!- yokoy_ [n=yokoy@e179024062.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["leaving"] 22:04 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e178115012.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 22:43 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:43 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 23:52 -!- Ryuo [n=raizen@CPE-75-81-39-145.kc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Lost terminal"] --- Log closed Thu Aug 30 00:00:15 2007