T2 IRC Log: 2007-07-24

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--- Log opened Tue Jul 24 00:00:56 2007
00:19 < CIA-9> aldas * r25145 /branches/6.0/package/graphic/gimp/ (gimp.conf gimp.desc):
00:19 < CIA-9> * merged r19231, r19306, r23692, r24272, r24827, r24915, r24998 from trunk to branches/6.0:
00:19 < CIA-9> updated gimp (2.2.12 -> 2.2.17)
00:19 < CIA-9> security update: CVE-2007-2356, CVE-2007-2949, CVE-2007-4519
00:28 < sepp> hi Baldzius :)
00:29 < Baldzius> hi sepp :)
00:31 < CIA-9> aldas * r25146 /branches/6.0/package/mail/spamassassin/spamassassin.desc:
00:31 < CIA-9> * merged r23911, r24507 from trunk to branches/6.0
00:31 < CIA-9> updated spamassassin (3.1.8 -> 3.2.1)
00:31 < CIA-9> security update: CVE-2007-2873
00:32 < sepp> nice to see you again :)
00:33 < Baldzius> me2 :)
00:38 < CIA-9> aldas * r25147 /branches/6.0/package/graphic/libexif/ (doc-install.patch libexif.desc set-correct-include-dir.patch):
00:38 < CIA-9> * merged r24092, r24226, r24499, r24575 from trunk to branches/6.0:
00:38 < CIA-9> updated libexif (0.6.13 -> 0.6.16)
00:38 < CIA-9> security update: CVE-2007-2645, CVE-2007-4168
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01:50 < CIA-9> aldas * r25148 /branches/6.0/package/develop/hte/ (hotfix_libs_at_the_end.patch hte.conf hte.desc):
01:50 < CIA-9> * updated hte (0.9.2 -> 2.0.8) in branch/6.0:
01:50 < CIA-9> security update: CVE-2007-2823
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09:37 < mtr> moin
09:46 < rxr> re
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09:47 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal]
09:47 < mtr> moin rxr
09:47 < rxr> moin mtr
09:48 < rxr> heh - finally
09:49 < rxr> our spamassassin is now configured and trained in a way that I did not got a single SPAM mail in my inbox over night !
10:25 < rxr> oh mtr , happy birthday, it was yesterday, wasn't it
10:26 < rxr> or one week ago
10:26 < rxr> damn I need some alarm calendar :-)
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10:39 < mtr> rxr, hey - thanks!
10:40 < mtr> it was a week ago, though :)
10:41 < rxr> yeah - noticed in xing already ...
10:55 < rxr> r24454 | mtr | 2007-06-12 08:52:51 +0200 (Tue, 12 Jun 2007) | 2 lines
10:55 < rxr> * fixed uclibc package builds for util-linux, psmisc, acl, at and usbutils
10:55 < rxr> ^- those do not work fo rme, I have no libintl in the build anyway
11:01 < rxr> without it e.g. psmisc and util-linux build fine
11:01 < rxr> where did you got libintl from and why was this needed ?
11:14 * mtr reading the svn diff ...
11:17 < mtr> psmisc had a uclibc patchfile before, which didn't apply any more, afair
11:18 < mtr> just substituted the patch with export LIBS=-lintl
11:18 < mtr> maybe psmisc now builds even without lintl
11:20 < rxr> HEAD breaks not finding -lintl ...
11:21 < mtr> libintl.so is from gettext, uClibc does not have it itself
11:22 < mtr> adding lintl should depend on DISABLE_NLS then, right?
11:25 < rxr> hm - I have gettext in the rescue
11:26 * rxr testbuilding a rescue w/ uclibc
11:27 < rxr> but rescue has:
11:27 < rxr> export SDECFG_DISABLE_NLS='1'
11:34 < mtr> we changed the configure option filter some weeks ago, since then gettext is able to build a libintl.so with --enable-nls, but it needs DISABLE_NLS to be '0'
11:34 < mtr> anyway, the psmisc and util-linux patches should check the DISABLE_NLS setting
11:40 < sepp> moin :)
11:47 < mtr> moin moin sepp :)
11:49 < sepp> hi mtr :)
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12:45 < Baldzius> morning
12:46 < rxr> hi Baldzius
12:47 < Baldzius> hi rxr
12:51 < CIA-9> aldas * r25149 /trunk/package/network/tcpdump/tcpdump.desc:
12:51 < CIA-9> * updated tcpdump (3.9.6 -> 3.9.7)
12:51 < CIA-9> * security update: CVE-2007-3798
12:52 < mtr> wb Baldzius :)
12:52 < Baldzius> hi mtr :)
13:01 < CIA-9> mtr * r25150 /trunk/package/multimedia/ffmpeg/ffmpeg.conf:
13:01 < CIA-9> * fixed ffmpeg configure options to reflect the
13:01 < CIA-9> the changed option naming
13:05 < CIA-9> aldas * r25151 /trunk/package/network/bind/bind.desc:
13:05 < CIA-9> * updated bind (9.4.1 -> 9.4.1-P1)
13:05 < CIA-9> * security update: CVE-2007-2925, CVE-2007-2926
13:11 < CIA-9> aldas * r25152 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-lib/alsa-lib.desc: * updated alsa-lib (1.0.14 -> 1.0.14a)
13:16 < CIA-9> aldas * r25153 /branches/6.0/package/network/bind/bind.desc:
13:16 < CIA-9> * updated bind (9.3.4 -> 9.3.4-P1) in branch/6.0:
13:16 < CIA-9> * security update: CVE-2007-2926
13:31 < CIA-9> aldas * r25154 /trunk/package/filesystem/xfsprogs/xfsprogs.desc: * updated xfsprogs (2.8.18 -> 2.9.3)
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13:36 < CIA-9> aldas * r25155 /trunk/package/database/sqlite/sqlite.desc: * updated sqlite (3.4.0 -> 3.4.1)
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13:41 < DeeKey> hi!
13:43 < Baldzius> hi DeeKey
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13:51 < CIA-9> aldas * r25156 /trunk/package/ruby/ruby/ruby.desc: * updated ruby (1.8.6 -> 1.8.6-p36)
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14:31 < rxr> re
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15:35 < CIA-9> mtr * r25157 /trunk/package/qt/qte/qte.desc: * updated qte (3.3.7 -> 3.3.8)
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16:03 < CIA-9> rene * r25158 /trunk/package/filesystem/parted/parted.conf: * workaround parted failing to link to readline due to -Wl,--as-needed, ...
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16:11 < kic-> re
16:30 < sepp_> hi kic- :)
16:31 < DeeKey> hello
16:31 < sepp_> hi DeeKey :)
16:37 < mtr> hello DeeKey, kic- :)
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16:52 < DeeKey> what is the meaning of pkg_linux26_post.conf files?
16:54 < rxr> any package can have pkg_$pkg_{pre,post}.conf files that are evaluated
16:54 < rxr> pre or post this other package is built
16:54 < rxr> e.g to patc optional support in or whatever
16:54 < rxr> so when this pkg_linux26_post.conf is evaulated during the linux26 pkg build after the original linux26 stuff was evaluated
16:59 < DeeKey> hmm... So, the algorithm is the following:
16:59 < DeeKey> Linux26 package get evaluated;
16:59 < DeeKey> When it is finished, then t2 starts searching for the files pkg_linux26_post.comf. If the file found, then the package start to evaluate
17:01 < rxr> yes, then those files are evaluates to allow packages, architectures and targets to alter and/or extend the package that is currently beeing built
17:01 < rxr> hi kic-
17:01 < DeeKey> ha, but what if it will be vise versa? Firs my package and then linux26 ?
17:02 < rxr> this is just the evaluation of what todo
17:02 < rxr> rule number 1: the _pre stuff is superflous, always use the _post stuff
17:02 < rxr> and then add your stuff to the premake hook:
17:02 < rxr> hook_add premake 5 "untar rtai... ; built whatever ; probably patch something"
17:03 < DeeKey> the problem is that my pckage is somehow evaluated before linux!
17:03 < rxr> or even a function in the file
17:03 < rxr> you only want to build it and patch the linux kernel before the kernel is built
17:03 < rxr> but the order we speak about is "meta dataq gathering evaluation order of T2
17:03 < rxr> "
17:03 < DeeKey> Actually now! I just added linux patch to the linux26 dir
17:04 < rxr> so you want the linux26 stuff to be read in and after that hook into the build process at the correct location to inject the rtai stuff
17:04 < DeeKey> I noticed, that there is an option i configuration menu: save linux sources to /usr/src
17:04 < rxr> yes, that option even is brand new, just added 1 1/2 weeks ago
17:05 < DeeKey> RTAI is a standalone program.
17:05 < DeeKey> It needs some linux sources to build (i think .configure)
17:07 < DeeKey> What is the best way to debug the package? (talking about RTAI)
17:07 < DeeKey> Do I need to recompile the whole target or maybe i could compile a single linux26 package to triger the post.conf?
17:09 < rxr> you can build a single package of your target with Build-Target -job $stage-$pkg
17:09 < rxr> so Build-Target -job 5-linux26 (for example)
17:10 < DeeKey> rxr: thank you for an advice
17:11 < rxr> you can "debug" by enabling the XTRACE Config option resulting in a line-by-line print of the stuff evaluated during he build
17:11 < rxr> the build
17:11 < rxr> if any build breaks and you have the src.* dirs you can enter it:
17:11 < rxr> cd src.linux26.*whatever*
17:11 < rxr> and run the included files:
17:12 < rxr> ./debug.sh
17:12 < rxr> which brings you into exactly the environment, chroot, sandbox, with the T2 tools, wrappers and environment set used during the build
17:13 < DeeKey> great, thankyu
17:16 < rxr> you'r welcome :-)
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17:17 < DeeKey> hmmm.... Priority question...
17:17 < DeeKey> There is a line in rtai.desc:
17:17 < DeeKey> [P] 0 ------5----9 101.000
17:18 < DeeKey> so actually the priority was switched off?!
17:18 < DeeKey> That is why RTAI evaluated before linux26 package! Or I am mistaken?
17:31 < sepp_> the '0' means not default enabled
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17:32 < sepp_> O
17:35 < DeeKey> What does it mean "to be build by default?"
17:35 < rxr> to be selected by default
17:36 < rxr> if not further re-selected in your target
17:42 < DeeKey> hmm.. I have rebuild my target again I still dont get why RTAI is build in the first step!
17:43 < DeeKey> here is sequence for my build http://pastebin.com/m782f28f6
17:44 < rxr> you have to diferentiate in what the package rtai builds and what the rtai package alters in the linux kernel
17:45 < rxr> when everything that the rtai package builds is built while the kernel is built then the rtai package likely does not build anything when just the rtai package is built
17:45 < rxr> (we likely want to tag those packages VIRTUAL in the future=
17:45 < rxr> )
17:45 < rxr> in that case the package just hooks into the build of the linux26 package and performs it's patching and compiling additional stuff
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18:01 < LMJ> moin moin
18:04 < DeeKey> what does =[1]=> mean in the build logs? Example:
18:04 < DeeKey> 18:40:25 =[1]=> Building contrib/rtai [3.5 7.0-trunk].
18:04 < DeeKey> hello LMJ
18:06 < LMJ> hello DeeKey
18:07 < rxr> DeeKey: stage
18:07 < DeeKey> but why is it the 1st one?!
18:08 < rxr> 0 is toolchain
18:08 < rxr> 1 is crossbuild
18:08 < rxr> 5 is all the rest
18:08 < DeeKey> in rtai.desc it should be 5!
18:08 < rxr> 9 is rebuild for paranoid people with too many cpu cycles
18:08 < DeeKey> it is 5, i mean
18:09 < DeeKey> [P] X -----5---9 101.000
18:09 < rxr> yes, that is how normal packages look like
18:10 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/handbook/html/t2.build-auto.html#t2.build-stages
18:10 < DeeKey> But why then RTAI is compiled during hte first stage!?
18:10 < rxr> because when enabled it is basic part of the system
18:11 < rxr> but as I said, the RTAI package probably will empty anyway, doing all it's modifications to the linux package
18:11 < DeeKey> You mean that i should delte rtai.conf ?
18:11 < rxr> I have not read it
18:11 < DeeKey> :)
18:11 < rxr> but as I said, the major part of the rtai package will be going on in the pkg_linux26_post.conf
18:11 < rxr> by modifying the linux kernel that is beeing built
18:12 < rxr> I guess I should start updatating and so rtai - this third pary kernel mod stuff is not the easiest thing to do ...
18:13 < DeeKey> actually it is not so very complicated...
18:13 < DeeKey> There is a kernel patch inside rtai.tar I just put this file inside linux26 package. Patching went OK.
18:13 < rxr> yeah - though that is not the right way (tm) to do this
18:14 < rxr> as the patching should be in the rtai package and happen automatically only if the rtai package is selected it must go into the pkg_linux26_post.conf to exact and apply from the tarball ...
18:14 < DeeKey> Now I need to compile RTAI itself. It needs path to linux kernel. No linux compilation is needed after the rtai compilation.
18:14 < DeeKey> I see...
18:15 < DeeKey> But that is why I put modified packages inside my target dir..
18:17 < DeeKey> Need to go! Have a nice evening!
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18:26 < DeeKey> ha, I am still here for a while...
18:28 < rxr> :-)
18:29 < pdinoto_> hi all!
18:29 < DeeKey> hello pdinoto
18:35 < DeeKey> if I want to apply patch to linux, then it should be done before linux compilation?
18:35 < rxr> just do this in the pkg_linux26_post.conf
18:35 < DeeKey> then it should be "premake" or else
18:35 < rxr> _post does not mean post compilation but post "evaluation" fo the linux pkg stuff
18:35 < rxr> so you basically have there
18:36 < rxr> hook_add premake ' ' 'untar; patch -p1 < patchfile'
18:36 < rxr> that can be done a little more pretty, but I want to give you the basic pseudo code idea first
18:44 < kic-> hello all
18:44 < DeeKey> hello kic-
18:45 < kic-> hiya
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20:06 < kic-> re
20:10 < kic-> rene, when you get back, i have info for you
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21:26 < madtux> hi.
21:26 < rxr> hi madtux
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21:49 < kic-> when you emerge ndiswrapper where does T2 put the kernel module?
21:53 < Ragnarin> lib/modules/2.6.22.1-dist/misc/ndiswrapper.ko
21:53 < Ragnarin> it's in the linux26 package, not the ndiswrapper package
21:53 < kic-> well, then that would explain why i can't modprobe ndiswrapper
21:53 < kic-> since its not there :D
21:53 < kic-> swore i emerged it though
21:53 < kic-> hrm
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21:55 < kic-> hrm, maybe requires rebuild of kernel
21:55 < Ragnarin> indeed
21:55 < kic-> with the new copying of kernel src to /usr/src/
21:56 < kic-> should i just be able to change to that directory and re-run make
21:56 < kic-> or will i need to re-emerge the linux26
21:56 < Ragnarin> the latter I'm afraid
21:56 < kic-> weee
21:56 < kic-> k
21:56 < kic-> thx
21:57 < kic-> so theoretically...
21:57 < kic-> scripts/Emerge-Pkg ndiswrapper
21:57 < kic-> and
21:57 < kic-> scripts/Emerge-Pkg -force linux26
21:57 < Ragnarin> yea
21:58 < kic-> should give me the ndiswrapper modules in 'misc'
21:58 < kic-> ko
21:58 < kic-> thanke much
21:58 < kic-> then maybe i can get my wifi workin on the laptop
21:58 < Ragnarin> ^_^ good luck
21:58 < kic-> if ndiswrapper works for me, then i'm blowing away xp from the lappie and going strictly T2
21:58 < kic-> :D
21:58 < Ragnarin> what chipset is it?
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21:59 < kic-> Broadcom BCM4318 [airforce one 54g]
21:59 < kic-> lots of problems all over the net with it
21:59 < kic-> :D
22:00 < Ragnarin> yea >.< ouch
22:00 < kic-> ndiswrapper had specific .inf and .sys files available for that chipset on their site
22:00 < Ragnarin> 22:01 -!- kic_ [n=rfoote@adsl-074-238-088-202.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #T2
22:01 < kic_> ouch
22:01 < kic_> major thunderstorm wreaking havoc on the internet today in the office
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22:38 < pdinoto_> kic-: is your Broadcom wifi card miniPCI or PCI-express?
22:54 < kic-> hrm
22:54 < kic-> good question
22:54 < pdinoto_> I ask because mine is PCIe and I have looots of problems
22:54 < kic-> does 'lspci' list both
22:54 < kic-> yours is on a laptop?
22:54 < pdinoto_> (it is a BCM4311 iirc)
22:54 < pdinoto_> yes
22:55 < pdinoto_> newer laptops use PCIe instead of miniPCI... they are smaller
22:55 < pdinoto_> but linux support is still in progress :(
22:55 < kic-> this laptop is somewhat older
22:55 < kic-> an aspire 5610Z
22:56 < pdinoto_> well, that actually may be good for you... :-)
22:56 < pdinoto_> got to go... good afternoon|night|morning!
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23:25 < kic-> interesting
23:25 < kic-> emerge-pkg ndiswrapper
23:25 < kic-> and emerge-pkg -force linux26
23:26 < kic-> did not build the ndiswrapper.ko module and put it in /lib/modules/DIST/misc
23:32 < rxr> kic-: did _not_ ?
23:32 < rxr> the ndiswrapper needs to be in the active package selection
23:33 < rxr> during the linux build only third party modules are build which are in the active package selection
23:34 < kic-> hrm
23:34 < kic-> k
23:34 < kic-> i'll check that
23:35 < rxr> but note that on trunk with the 2.6.22 update not all third party modules build yet
23:35 < rxr> I'm off head not sure if ndiswrapper built
23:35 < rxr> I guess I should do a quick-fix-pass over the third party module stuff, finally
23:35 < rxr> (if not so much stuff would be lingering on my desk, damn)
23:36 < rxr> ok folks, 23:35 here, so /me going to sleep a little
23:36 < rxr> cu all
23:36 [Users #t2]
23:36 [@ChanServ] [ cbrake] [ Fatal] [ mqueiros] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX ]
23:36 [ axion__ ] [ CIA-9 ] [ kic- ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
23:36 [ Baldzius] [ cyda ] [ LMJ ] [ pdinoto_] [ Stelz ]
23:36 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
23:46 < CIA-9> aldas * r25159 /trunk/package/network/lighttpd/lighttpd.desc:
23:46 < CIA-9> * updated lighttpd (1.4.15 -> 1.4.16)
23:46 < CIA-9> * security update: CVE-2007-{3946,3947,3948,3949,3950}
23:48 < CIA-9> aldas * r25160 /trunk/package/base/tcl/tcl.desc: * updated tcl (8.4.14 -> 8.4.15)
23:48 < CIA-9> aldas * r25161 /trunk/package/x11/tk/tk.desc: * updated tk (8.4.14 -> 8.4.15)
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