T2 IRC Log: 2007-07-05
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--- Log opened Thu Jul 05 00:00:21 2007
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09:04 < CIA-9> susan * r24890 /trunk/package/editors/ed/ed.desc: * updated ed (0.5 -> 0.6)
09:05 < CIA-9> susan * r24891 /trunk/package/security/libksba/libksba.desc: * updated libksba (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
09:06 < CIA-9> susan * r24892 /trunk/package/editors/zile/zile.desc: * updated zile (2.2.36 -> 2.2.37)
09:07 < rxr> re
09:08 < CIA-9> susan * r24893 /trunk/package/multimedia/live/live.desc: * updated live (2007.05.24 -> 2007.07.01)
09:08 < rxr> mtr: oh - we both hacked it then, now ...
09:08 < CIA-9> susan * r24894 /trunk/package/network/silc-toolkit/silc-toolkit.desc: * updated silc-toolkit (1.1.1 -> 1.1.2)
09:08 < rxr> mtr: s/it/exact-image/
09:08 < CIA-9> susan * r24895 /trunk/package/security/strongswan/strongswan.desc: * updated strongswan (4.1.3 -> 4.1.4)
09:09 < rxr> mtr: btw. there is way more to come in exact-image, pattern recognition is already implemented in exact-image/trunk and I right now integrate Agg to be able to render vector elements and text into the images :-)
09:14 < CIA-9> susan * r24896 /trunk/package/network/silc-client/silc-client.desc: * updated silc-client (1.1.1 -> 1.1.2)
09:15 < CIA-9> susan * r24897 /trunk/package/graphic/libpano/libpano.desc: * updated libpano (2.8.4 -> 2.8.6)
09:15 < sepp> moin :)
09:17 < sepp> can someone with an multilib build look if stubs-32.h appears in glibc's flist?
09:18 < sepp> it never does on my box and i have no clue why
09:22 < rxr> rene@blackrider:~$ grep stubs-32.h /var/adm/flists/*
09:22 < rxr> /var/adm/flists/glibc:glibc: usr/include/gnu/stubs-32.h
09:22 < rxr> but that is a 6.0.1 with tons of trunk upates:
09:22 < sepp> strange thing
09:22 < rxr> T2 SDE 6.0.1 (2006/10/29)
09:23 < sepp> ahh, yes, it is only missing with Build-Target
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09:23 < tri> moin
09:23 < sepp> moin tri
09:24 < tri> hi sepp are you doing kernel development ?
09:24 < sepp> no
09:24 < tri> or embedded linux work ?
09:24 < sepp> no
09:24 < tri> is rxr doing that ?
09:24 < sepp> rene does
09:25 < rxr> tri: yep
09:25 < rxr> hi tri
09:25 < tri> ping rxr
09:26 < rxr> pong
09:26 < tri> ah hi rene
09:27 < tri> somebody at our local linux group is searching for a kernel embedded linux worker
09:27 < tri> not fulltime just project work
09:28 < tri> he owns http://www.linuxdevelopment.de/
09:29 < rxr> heh
09:29 < rxr> the site is pretty blan here, in konqeurror and firefox
09:29 < rxr> probably a flash only thing ?
09:29 < rxr> well - he is welcome to engage us, www.exactcode.de is our company
09:31 < sepp> http://www.linuxdevelopment.de/1.html :)
09:31 < tri> yeah flash is terrible
09:31 < rxr> tri: well I would even install one, if there would be a 64bit .so for my system ...
09:31 < sepp> could at least have some skip button
09:33 < rxr> btw. there is a new gnash, but it did not built for me
09:33 < rxr> -[V] 0.7.2
09:33 < rxr> +[V] 0.8.0
09:34 < rxr> maybe someone wants to try it
09:35 < rxr> -[D] 2536333847 gnash-0.7.2.tar.bz2 ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnash/0.7.2/
09:35 < rxr> +[D] 1146358585 gnash-0.8.0.tar.bz2 ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnash/0.8.0/
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09:45 < CIA-9> susan * r24898 /trunk/package/network/l7-filter/l7-filter.desc: * updated l7-filter (2.9 -> 2.12)
09:49 < CIA-9> susan * r24899 /trunk/package/text2speech/espeak/espeak.desc: * updated espeak (1.26 -> 1.27)
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10:20 < rxr> puh
10:20 < rxr> damn, hunted quite some time very cryptic gcc errors that where just a result of a pair of ()'s ...
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13:42 [Users #t2]
13:42 [@ChanServ ] [ Dallur] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
13:42 [ cbrake_away] [ emte ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
13:42 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz]
13:42 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
13:42 < rxr> http://people.exactcode.de/~rene/agg-and-exact-image.png
13:46 < sepp> :)
13:46 < rxr> oh hi sepp
13:46 < rxr> yeah - had a quick hack already working yesterday
13:47 < sepp> hi rxr
13:47 < rxr> (that only worked on RGB and would crash otherwise, when the in-memory pixel content would he shorted than RGB and then just draw shifted garbage=
13:47 < rxr> )
13:48 < rxr> now that screenshot is from a real interfacing of the two worlds, work in any exact-image Image class, be that 1 bit b/w, 2bit gray, 4bit gray, 8bit gray, RGB, ...
13:48 < rxr> got quite some gray hairs
13:50 < rxr> Agg is quite nicely optimized, callbacks with quite some well-optimized scanlines into the exact-image renderer
13:52 < rxr> Xvas (eXact canVAS) comes next
13:52 < rxr> but probably in some weeks as I have some contract work to do first ...
13:53 < rxr> Liste mit Nebentätigkeiten von Bundestagsabgeordneten steht im Netz
13:53 < rxr> Danach bezieht beispielsweise Friedrich Merz (CDU/CSU) von acht Unternehmen jährlich jeweils Einkünfte der Stufe 3 (mindestens 7.000 Euro). Merz hatte zusammen mit weiteren Parlamentariern gegen die Offenlegung von Nebeneinkünften geklagt.
13:55 < rxr> # bc
13:55 < rxr> 7000*8
13:55 < rxr> 56000
13:56 < sepp> are you surprised?
13:56 < rxr> nop
13:56 < sepp> :)
14:08 < CIA-8> rene * r430 /trunk/gfx/ (Agg2D.cc Agg2D.hh Makefile): * reverted the addition of Agg2D
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14:29 < rxr> sepp: http://people.exactcode.de/~rene/agg-and-exact-image2.png
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15:11 < shev_> heya. on http://www.puppylinux.com/news/comments.php?y=06&m=07&entry=entry060713-193517 there is a link stating t2 has a comparison of t2 vs. gentoo, but the link on that page is broken. Does that comparison-page still exist somewhere?
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15:13 < rxr> shev_: it's not too long anyway: http://www.t2-project.org/handbook/html/t2.intro.different.distribution.html#t2.reposadmin.basics.backends.tbl-1
15:14 < shev_> thanks
15:16 < shev_> hehe
15:16 < shev_> "many monkeys method"
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15:16 [Users #t2]
15:16 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ shev_] [ tri ]
15:16 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz] [ valentin]
15:16 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal ] [ pdinoto] [ sepp ] [ TobiX]
15:16 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
15:17 < tri> re
15:17 < tri> rxr: a rpath vs. t2 would be nice
15:18 < rxr> tri: do you know rpath?
15:18 < rxr> I started to add openembeded to the table
15:18 < rxr> that is already in the SVN source of the book
15:19 < rxr> I could regenerate the files and upload, now
15:19 < tri> ah interessting
15:19 < tri> i played a bit with rpath but it is also different
15:20 < rxr> well - aside that openembeded was started after t2 and thus would not had to be invented (:-) it's use of the properitary bitbake stuff is the biggest annoyance
15:21 < rxr> plus that all openembedded and related websites are mostly bitrotting, like no news since a year and the like
15:21 < rxr> tri: maybe you can drop some notes about rpath so we can get a baisc overview? maybe get inspired by one idea or concept ?
15:22 < rxr> and - btw - the T2 Handbook sources are here: http://www.google.com/ig?hl=en
15:22 < rxr> err
15:22 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2-handbook/
15:22 < rxr> patches welcome
15:24 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/handbook/html/t2.intro.different.distribution.html#t2.reposadmin.basics.backends.tbl-1
15:24 < rxr> ^- includes latest OpenEmbeded start
15:24 < rxr> comments welcome, especially filling the ???s
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15:29 < tr1> yes nice - i will drop same thoughts about rpath
15:30 < tr1> but later... a lot work here for now...
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15:47 < CIA-9> rene * r24900 /trunk/package/develop/boehm-gc/ (boehm-gc.desc no_doc.patch): * reverted r24884: updated boehm-gc (6.8 -> 7.0), as it causes regressions in mono, et al.
16:02 < shev_> i love those cia notifications
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16:11 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
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17:00 < tri> ping rxr
17:00 < kic-> re
17:01 < tri> hi kic-
17:01 < kic-> hiya
17:02 < tri> ;-)
17:02 < kic-> gotta love make -j9
17:02 < kic-> :D
17:04 < rxr> hi
17:18 < rxr> hm - now that this FreeBSD nexus.tfh-berlin.de is back online our osiris disappeared
17:18 < rxr> damn
17:21 < shev_> hehe
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17:30 < CIA-9> rene * r24901 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
17:30 < CIA-9> * updated evolution-data-server (1.10.2 -> 1.10.3.1)
17:30 < CIA-9> * updated evolution (2.10.2 -> 2.10.3)
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17:53 < CIA-9> rene * r24902 /trunk/package/develop/commonc++/commonc++.desc: * updated commonc++ (1.5.6 -> 1.5.7)
17:53 < CIA-9> rene * r24903 /trunk/package/python/itools/itools.desc: * updated itools (0.16.0 -> 0.16.1)
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18:24 < rxr> valentin: now that is a rainstorm over here
18:35 < kic-> rene
18:35 < kic-> any way i can pass -j3
18:35 < kic-> to all the make commands when its compiling?
18:35 < rxr> just select the parallel make count in the Config
18:36 < rxr> it should already detect the number of cores in a Linux system
18:36 < rxr> for the packages this is known to work it is used then
18:36 < rxr> (some packages have imperfect rules and break on parallel builds, those are marked with a NOPARALLEL Flag in the .desc, the build output will print notes on each package beeing build which parallel count is used)
18:46 < CIA-9> rene * r24904 /trunk/package/multimedia/gnash/ (gnash.conf gnash.desc):
18:46 < CIA-9> * updated gnash (0.7.2 -> 0.8.0), including workaround to link with
18:46 < CIA-9> our ffmpeg (sigh), removal of broken and absolete pkginstalled
18:46 < CIA-9> conditionals and installation of the mozilla plugin into the
18:46 < CIA-9> mozilla plugin directory
18:49 < sepp> does it work? or does it just crash crapzilla?
18:49 < rxr> on my x86-64 it does not really work, but also does not crash firefox
18:49 < sepp> hehe
18:49 < rxr> at least it did not work for the 4 sites I tried it with
18:50 < sepp> :/
18:50 < rxr> Flash is not on my higest priority
18:50 < rxr> it it sometime in the future works then fine, but until then my day is quite productive without Flash no a 64bit machine :-)
18:52 < sepp> i wonder why it is too hard for adobe to compile a 64bit plugin
18:52 < rxr> crappy code all over probably
18:52 < sepp> is there no win64 flash version?
18:53 < rxr> nope
18:53 < sepp> ohhh
18:53 < rxr> no 64bit flash for any OS
18:53 < rxr> I guess they know why
18:53 < sepp> hmm, i thought they are just lazy bastards
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19:01 [ cbrake ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
19:01 [ CIA-9 ] [ keinek_] [ pdinoto] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
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19:04 < misl> hi folks
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20:28 < DeeKey> Hello!
20:42 < sepp_> hello!
21:16 < kic-> i have a question about Emerge-Pkg -cfg
21:16 < kic-> if i use Emerge-Pkg -cfg config_name
21:17 < kic-> will that emerge the package into my running system, but using the config_name configs for package building, or will it build and emerge that package into the target of -cfg config_name
21:17 < Ragnarin> into the running system
21:17 < kic-> thought so
21:17 < kic-> k
21:17 < kic-> thx
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09:04 < CIA-9> susan * r24890 /trunk/package/editors/ed/ed.desc: * updated ed (0.5 -> 0.6)
09:05 < CIA-9> susan * r24891 /trunk/package/security/libksba/libksba.desc: * updated libksba (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
09:06 < CIA-9> susan * r24892 /trunk/package/editors/zile/zile.desc: * updated zile (2.2.36 -> 2.2.37)
09:07 < rxr> re
09:08 < CIA-9> susan * r24893 /trunk/package/multimedia/live/live.desc: * updated live (2007.05.24 -> 2007.07.01)
09:08 < rxr> mtr: oh - we both hacked it then, now ...
09:08 < CIA-9> susan * r24894 /trunk/package/network/silc-toolkit/silc-toolkit.desc: * updated silc-toolkit (1.1.1 -> 1.1.2)
09:08 < rxr> mtr: s/it/exact-image/
09:08 < CIA-9> susan * r24895 /trunk/package/security/strongswan/strongswan.desc: * updated strongswan (4.1.3 -> 4.1.4)
09:09 < rxr> mtr: btw. there is way more to come in exact-image, pattern recognition is already implemented in exact-image/trunk and I right now integrate Agg to be able to render vector elements and text into the images :-)
09:14 < CIA-9> susan * r24896 /trunk/package/network/silc-client/silc-client.desc: * updated silc-client (1.1.1 -> 1.1.2)
09:15 < CIA-9> susan * r24897 /trunk/package/graphic/libpano/libpano.desc: * updated libpano (2.8.4 -> 2.8.6)
09:15 < sepp> moin :)
09:17 < sepp> can someone with an multilib build look if stubs-32.h appears in glibc's flist?
09:18 < sepp> it never does on my box and i have no clue why
09:22 < rxr> rene@blackrider:~$ grep stubs-32.h /var/adm/flists/*
09:22 < rxr> /var/adm/flists/glibc:glibc: usr/include/gnu/stubs-32.h
09:22 < rxr> but that is a 6.0.1 with tons of trunk upates:
09:22 < sepp> strange thing
09:22 < rxr> T2 SDE 6.0.1 (2006/10/29)
09:23 < sepp> ahh, yes, it is only missing with Build-Target
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09:23 < tri> moin
09:23 < sepp> moin tri
09:24 < tri> hi sepp are you doing kernel development ?
09:24 < sepp> no
09:24 < tri> or embedded linux work ?
09:24 < sepp> no
09:24 < tri> is rxr doing that ?
09:24 < sepp> rene does
09:25 < rxr> tri: yep
09:25 < rxr> hi tri
09:25 < tri> ping rxr
09:26 < rxr> pong
09:26 < tri> ah hi rene
09:27 < tri> somebody at our local linux group is searching for a kernel embedded linux worker
09:27 < tri> not fulltime just project work
09:28 < tri> he owns http://www.linuxdevelopment.de/
09:29 < rxr> heh
09:29 < rxr> the site is pretty blan here, in konqeurror and firefox
09:29 < rxr> probably a flash only thing ?
09:29 < rxr> well - he is welcome to engage us, www.exactcode.de is our company
09:31 < sepp> http://www.linuxdevelopment.de/1.html :)
09:31 < tri> yeah flash is terrible
09:31 < rxr> tri: well I would even install one, if there would be a 64bit .so for my system ...
09:31 < sepp> could at least have some skip button
09:33 < rxr> btw. there is a new gnash, but it did not built for me
09:33 < rxr> -[V] 0.7.2
09:33 < rxr> +[V] 0.8.0
09:34 < rxr> maybe someone wants to try it
09:35 < rxr> -[D] 2536333847 gnash-0.7.2.tar.bz2 ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnash/0.7.2/
09:35 < rxr> +[D] 1146358585 gnash-0.8.0.tar.bz2 ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnash/0.8.0/
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09:45 < CIA-9> susan * r24898 /trunk/package/network/l7-filter/l7-filter.desc: * updated l7-filter (2.9 -> 2.12)
09:49 < CIA-9> susan * r24899 /trunk/package/text2speech/espeak/espeak.desc: * updated espeak (1.26 -> 1.27)
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10:20 < rxr> puh
10:20 < rxr> damn, hunted quite some time very cryptic gcc errors that where just a result of a pair of ()'s ...
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13:42 < rxr> http://people.exactcode.de/~rene/agg-and-exact-image.png
13:46 < sepp> :)
13:46 < rxr> oh hi sepp
13:46 < rxr> yeah - had a quick hack already working yesterday
13:47 < sepp> hi rxr
13:47 < rxr> (that only worked on RGB and would crash otherwise, when the in-memory pixel content would he shorted than RGB and then just draw shifted garbage=
13:47 < rxr> )
13:48 < rxr> now that screenshot is from a real interfacing of the two worlds, work in any exact-image Image class, be that 1 bit b/w, 2bit gray, 4bit gray, 8bit gray, RGB, ...
13:48 < rxr> got quite some gray hairs
13:50 < rxr> Agg is quite nicely optimized, callbacks with quite some well-optimized scanlines into the exact-image renderer
13:52 < rxr> Xvas (eXact canVAS) comes next
13:52 < rxr> but probably in some weeks as I have some contract work to do first ...
13:53 < rxr> Liste mit Nebentätigkeiten von Bundestagsabgeordneten steht im Netz
13:53 < rxr> Danach bezieht beispielsweise Friedrich Merz (CDU/CSU) von acht Unternehmen jährlich jeweils Einkünfte der Stufe 3 (mindestens 7.000 Euro). Merz hatte zusammen mit weiteren Parlamentariern gegen die Offenlegung von Nebeneinkünften geklagt.
13:55 < rxr> # bc
13:55 < rxr> 7000*8
13:55 < rxr> 56000
13:56 < sepp> are you surprised?
13:56 < rxr> nop
13:56 < sepp> :)
14:08 < CIA-8> rene * r430 /trunk/gfx/ (Agg2D.cc Agg2D.hh Makefile): * reverted the addition of Agg2D
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14:29 < rxr> sepp: http://people.exactcode.de/~rene/agg-and-exact-image2.png
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15:11 < shev_> heya. on http://www.puppylinux.com/news/comments.php?y=06&m=07&entry=entry060713-193517 there is a link stating t2 has a comparison of t2 vs. gentoo, but the link on that page is broken. Does that comparison-page still exist somewhere?
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15:13 < rxr> shev_: it's not too long anyway: http://www.t2-project.org/handbook/html/t2.intro.different.distribution.html#t2.reposadmin.basics.backends.tbl-1
15:14 < shev_> thanks
15:16 < shev_> hehe
15:16 < shev_> "many monkeys method"
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15:17 < tri> re
15:17 < tri> rxr: a rpath vs. t2 would be nice
15:18 < rxr> tri: do you know rpath?
15:18 < rxr> I started to add openembeded to the table
15:18 < rxr> that is already in the SVN source of the book
15:19 < rxr> I could regenerate the files and upload, now
15:19 < tri> ah interessting
15:19 < tri> i played a bit with rpath but it is also different
15:20 < rxr> well - aside that openembeded was started after t2 and thus would not had to be invented (:-) it's use of the properitary bitbake stuff is the biggest annoyance
15:21 < rxr> plus that all openembedded and related websites are mostly bitrotting, like no news since a year and the like
15:21 < rxr> tri: maybe you can drop some notes about rpath so we can get a baisc overview? maybe get inspired by one idea or concept ?
15:22 < rxr> and - btw - the T2 Handbook sources are here: http://www.google.com/ig?hl=en
15:22 < rxr> err
15:22 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2-handbook/
15:22 < rxr> patches welcome
15:24 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/handbook/html/t2.intro.different.distribution.html#t2.reposadmin.basics.backends.tbl-1
15:24 < rxr> ^- includes latest OpenEmbeded start
15:24 < rxr> comments welcome, especially filling the ???s
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15:29 < tr1> yes nice - i will drop same thoughts about rpath
15:30 < tr1> but later... a lot work here for now...
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15:47 < CIA-9> rene * r24900 /trunk/package/develop/boehm-gc/ (boehm-gc.desc no_doc.patch): * reverted r24884: updated boehm-gc (6.8 -> 7.0), as it causes regressions in mono, et al.
16:02 < shev_> i love those cia notifications
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17:00 < tri> ping rxr
17:00 < kic-> re
17:01 < tri> hi kic-
17:01 < kic-> hiya
17:02 < tri> ;-)
17:02 < kic-> gotta love make -j9
17:02 < kic-> :D
17:04 < rxr> hi
17:18 < rxr> hm - now that this FreeBSD nexus.tfh-berlin.de is back online our osiris disappeared
17:18 < rxr> damn
17:21 < shev_> hehe
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17:30 < CIA-9> rene * r24901 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
17:30 < CIA-9> * updated evolution-data-server (1.10.2 -> 1.10.3.1)
17:30 < CIA-9> * updated evolution (2.10.2 -> 2.10.3)
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17:53 < CIA-9> rene * r24902 /trunk/package/develop/commonc++/commonc++.desc: * updated commonc++ (1.5.6 -> 1.5.7)
17:53 < CIA-9> rene * r24903 /trunk/package/python/itools/itools.desc: * updated itools (0.16.0 -> 0.16.1)
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18:24 < rxr> valentin: now that is a rainstorm over here
18:35 < kic-> rene
18:35 < kic-> any way i can pass -j3
18:35 < kic-> to all the make commands when its compiling?
18:35 < rxr> just select the parallel make count in the Config
18:36 < rxr> it should already detect the number of cores in a Linux system
18:36 < rxr> for the packages this is known to work it is used then
18:36 < rxr> (some packages have imperfect rules and break on parallel builds, those are marked with a NOPARALLEL Flag in the .desc, the build output will print notes on each package beeing build which parallel count is used)
18:46 < CIA-9> rene * r24904 /trunk/package/multimedia/gnash/ (gnash.conf gnash.desc):
18:46 < CIA-9> * updated gnash (0.7.2 -> 0.8.0), including workaround to link with
18:46 < CIA-9> our ffmpeg (sigh), removal of broken and absolete pkginstalled
18:46 < CIA-9> conditionals and installation of the mozilla plugin into the
18:46 < CIA-9> mozilla plugin directory
18:49 < sepp> does it work? or does it just crash crapzilla?
18:49 < rxr> on my x86-64 it does not really work, but also does not crash firefox
18:49 < sepp> hehe
18:49 < rxr> at least it did not work for the 4 sites I tried it with
18:50 < sepp> :/
18:50 < rxr> Flash is not on my higest priority
18:50 < rxr> it it sometime in the future works then fine, but until then my day is quite productive without Flash no a 64bit machine :-)
18:52 < sepp> i wonder why it is too hard for adobe to compile a 64bit plugin
18:52 < rxr> crappy code all over probably
18:52 < sepp> is there no win64 flash version?
18:53 < rxr> nope
18:53 < sepp> ohhh
18:53 < rxr> no 64bit flash for any OS
18:53 < rxr> I guess they know why
18:53 < sepp> hmm, i thought they are just lazy bastards
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19:04 < misl> hi folks
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20:28 < DeeKey> Hello!
20:42 < sepp_> hello!
21:16 < kic-> i have a question about Emerge-Pkg -cfg
21:16 < kic-> if i use Emerge-Pkg -cfg config_name
21:17 < kic-> will that emerge the package into my running system, but using the config_name configs for package building, or will it build and emerge that package into the target of -cfg config_name
21:17 < Ragnarin> into the running system
21:17 < kic-> thought so
21:17 < kic-> k
21:17 < kic-> thx
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