--- Log opened Thu Jun 28 00:00:32 2007 00:15 -!- valentin [n=valentin@port-212-202-170-151.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:15 -!- valentin [n=valentin@port-212-202-170-151.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2 00:19 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z475a.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 00:27 -!- wbx [n=wbx@gprs-pool-1-023.eplus-online.de] has joined #t2 00:39 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z743f.z.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:48 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 01:18 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@pD9E12EDA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 01:35 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E1022B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:35 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 02:09 -!- keinek_ [n=chatzill@201.250.16.205] has joined #t2 02:26 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: CIA-9 02:27 -!- Netsplit over, joins: CIA-9 03:17 -!- wbx [n=wbx@gprs-pool-1-023.eplus-online.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:41 -!- keinek_ [n=chatzill@201.250.16.205] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007031001]"] 05:12 -!- shevy [n=shev@80.108.103.172] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:18 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Fatal, LMJ, CIA-9, valentin 06:18 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: CIA-8 06:19 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Fatal, LMJ, valentin, CIA-9 06:19 -!- Netsplit over, joins: CIA-8 08:12 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z475a.z.pppool.de] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 08:18 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z475a.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 08:18 < sepp> moin :) 08:34 < mtr> moin moin sepp :) 08:34 < sepp> moin mtr :) 08:37 < rxr> re 08:37 < rxr> moin sepp, mtr and valentin 08:37 < mtr> moin rxr 08:38 < sepp> moin rxr :) 08:42 [Users #t2] 08:42 [@ChanServ ] [ Cyda ] [ Fatal] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 08:42 [ cbrake_away] [ Dallur] [ kic- ] [ pdinoto_] [ sepp ] 08:42 [ CIA-9 ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX] 08:42 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 08:53 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 08:55 < CIA-9> rene * r24788 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * updated asymptote (1.30 -> 1.31) 08:56 < CIA-9> susan * r24789 /trunk/package/xorg/libxfont/libxfont.desc: * updated libxfont (1.2.8 -> 1.2.9) 08:56 < sepp> who wants to fix popt to not emit libdir='/usr/lib6464' into its .la? :) 08:57 < rxr> oh does it ? 08:57 < sepp> libtool scares me 08:57 < sepp> yes 08:57 < CIA-9> susan * r24790 /trunk/package/editors/zile/zile.desc: * updated zile (2.2.34 -> 2.2.35) 08:57 < rxr> you saw I fixed it to install into lib64 08:57 < rxr> does this not also fix the .la ? 08:57 < sepp> no, in latest trunk 08:58 < sepp> trunk r24787 08:59 < rxr> sepp: yes, libtool is a utter shit :-((( 08:59 < rxr> that is why latest T2/trunk just removes .la files on cross-build 08:59 < rxr> cross-builds 08:59 < rxr> what we could even do is, test if we get any regression if we remove .la files, always! 09:00 < CIA-9> rene * r24791 /trunk/package/network/cobbler/cobbler.desc: * updated cobbler (0.4.8 -> 0.5.0) 09:00 < rxr> maybe all packages build without the crap and we do no longer have to tinker with broken .la files at all :-))) 09:01 < sepp> :) 09:02 < CIA-9> susan * r24792 /trunk/package/network/libupnp/libupnp.desc: * updated libupnp (1.4.6 -> 1.6.0) 09:18 < rxr> sepp: simple solution for popt, pass the usrlibdir also to makeopt :-) 09:18 < rxr> popt.conf :_))) 09:18 < sepp> ahh, nice 09:19 < CIA-9> susan * r24793 /trunk/package/audio/libgpod/libgpod.desc: * updated libgpod (0.5.0 -> 0.5.2) 09:25 < rxr> sepp: just commit if it works for you 09:25 < CIA-9> susan * r24794 /trunk/package/base/libdaemon/libdaemon.desc: * updated libdaemon (0.10 -> 0.11) 09:32 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 09:32 < sepp> yup, works 09:35 < CIA-9> sebastian * r24795 /trunk/package/base/popt/popt.conf: * changed popt to append makeopt $libdir to not emit lib6464 into .la 09:39 < sepp> glibc32 has no headerfiles e.g. no stubs-32.h 09:42 < rxr> glibc was suppost to install them both 09:42 < rxr> is that a fresh rebuild? 09:43 < rxr> I ask because I had one modification for this on my working copy but did not remeber what it was needed for ... 09:43 < sepp> glibc (64) has only stubs{-64,}.h 09:43 < rxr> hm hm 09:43 < sepp> fresh rebuild from r24787 09:44 < rxr> ok - then I know what my local modification was good for ... 09:44 < sepp> hehe 09:44 < sepp> i thought glibc32 would ship that 09:44 < CIA-9> rene * r24796 /trunk/package/base/glibc32/glibc32.conf: 09:44 < CIA-9> * enformce minimal optimization for glibc32 on x86-64 builds 09:44 < CIA-9> with just generic optmization (due TLS atomic ops) 09:45 < rxr> glib32 has no header at all 09:45 < sepp> yes i saw that :) already have no stubs-32.h on my running system, so i was not sure 09:45 -!- wbx [n=wbx@gprs-pool-1-020.eplus-online.de] has joined #t2 09:46 < rxr> hm 09:46 < rxr> sepp: glibc.conf shoudl create the stubs-32 in line 90 09:47 < sepp> hmm 09:50 < sepp> i will rebuild 5-glibc with xtrace 10:00 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@81.80.156.36] has joined #t2 10:08 -!- wbx [n=wbx@gprs-pool-1-020.eplus-online.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:24 < sepp> weird, now it is in the flist 10:24 < sepp> 1st it was there (touched) but not in the flist 10:29 < rxr> wired 10:36 < sepp> cosmic rays :) 10:42 < rxr> maybe the glowing debries of chinese space missles ... 10:43 < rxr> http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/air_space/4218443.html?page=1 10:56 < sepp> :) 11:28 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: emte 11:45 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 11:48 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z475a.z.pppool.de] has quit ["leaving"] 12:25 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z475a.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 13:46 -!- cbrake_away is now known as cbrake 14:19 < rxr> re 14:26 [Users #t2] 14:26 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ Fatal] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ valentin ] 14:26 [ cbrake ] [ Dallur] [ kic- ] [ pdinoto_] [ sepp ] [ write_erase] 14:26 [ CIA-9 ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX] 14:26 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 14:33 -!- Dallur [n=earl@fire-out.ru.is] has quit ["Leaving."] 15:01 < CIA-9> rene * r24797 /trunk/package/x11/metisse/ (. metisse.cache metisse.desc): * added metisse (0.4.0-rc4) - An experimental X desktop with OpenGL capacity 15:01 < rxr> lol, now this is a super package: 15:01 < rxr> -- Found Subversion (svn): /usr/bin/svn 15:01 < rxr> Subversion (svn) command line not found, it is recommended to install it 15:01 < rxr> loving it 15:22 < Cyda> Hey guys I have what might sound like a stupid question but my googling is not bringing me any closer to answers 15:22 < Cyda> I created an embedded target and it built a rootfs.squashfs image and am not sure about how to boot that with grub 15:23 < Cyda> I would ideally like to have it use /dev/ram0 as its root 15:23 < rxr> you need the boot the kernel and initrd image from build/.../boot 15:24 < rxr> the embeded target is meant for embedded boards where you place those files on a board, not for x86 monster machines ... 15:24 < Cyda> it didnt build an initrd, just a vmlinuz 15:24 < rxr> did you disable it? 15:24 < rxr> I think you should get an initrd by defaul 15:24 < rxr> t 15:25 < Cyda> i dnt remeber disabling it 15:25 < Cyda> dont* 15:25 < kic-> it built a squashfs.image 15:26 < kic-> no initrd, that i could see 15:26 < Cyda> hey kic- ;-p 15:26 < rxr> hi you both 15:26 < kic-> heya 15:26 < rxr> you used trunk? 15:26 < Cyda> yeah 15:26 < kic-> rxr, all it built was this .. 15:27 < kic-> oops 15:27 < rxr> what exactly did you select? I would like to reproduce 15:27 < rxr> uclibc or dietlibc embedded ? 15:27 < kic-> nvm, /exec -o doesn't work 15:27 < rxr> which CPU ? 15:27 < kic-> uclibc 15:27 < kic-> x86-64 15:27 < Cyda> busybox, uclibc 15:27 -!- wbx [n=wbx@gw.aurisp.de] has joined #t2 15:28 < kic-> 17 files transfered. 15:28 < kic-> Creating links for identical files ... 15:28 < kic-> 23 links created. 15:28 < kic-> Creating root filesystem image (squashfs) ... 15:28 < kic-> 52M /root/t2-trunk/build/small-7.0-trunk-embedded-x86-64-core2/TOOLCHAIN/rootfs 15:28 < kic-> 16M /root/t2-trunk/build/small-7.0-trunk-embedded-x86-64-core2/TOOLCHAIN/rootfs.squashfs 15:28 < kic-> The image is located at /root/t2-trunk/build/small-7.0-trunk-embedded-x86-64-core2/TOOLCHAIN/rootfs.squasfs. 15:28 < kic-> that was the last of the build process 15:28 < rxr> you selected livecd creation ? 15:28 < kic-> no 15:29 < kic-> erm 15:29 < kic-> actually 15:29 < kic-> the config didn't give creation options 15:29 < Cyda> i dont believe you get any options on what it creates 15:29 < rxr> yes, the embedded hard-forces "=none= Just create binary packages and isofs.txt" 15:29 < kic-> exactly 15:30 < rxr> ok - I will test that 15:30 < rxr> why did you choose embedded for x86-64 ? 15:30 < kic-> cause we're putting it on a flash 15:30 < rxr> embedded is more targetting board-support-packges for embedded boards 15:30 < kic-> and it will sit on an x86-64 monster, that has no Hard drives.. just a compact flash 15:30 < kic-> yeah, we know, we're gonna build one for ARM next 15:30 < rxr> (though of xourse it should nontheless work) 15:30 < kic-> if we can get hte x86 to work 15:31 < kic-> the build was successful though 15:31 < kic-> it created a rootfs 15:31 < kic-> and a squashfs image 15:31 < kic-> isn't that success? 15:31 < kic-> heh 15:32 < kic-> although, under the rootfs directory that it says its located, it does not have a boot directory, with a kernel 15:32 < rxr> I can imagine that grub could not be built on a pure 64bit uclibc bulid 15:32 < rxr> that is a quite ugly issue 15:33 < rxr> do you want to run read-only from the flash ? 15:33 < Cyda> nah we want to be able to rw the flash 15:36 < rxr> so you want a normal like ext2 FS on the flash that is IDE connected ? 15:38 < kic-> yep 15:38 < kic-> afk a sec 15:38 < rxr> then I strongly suggest to use the normal generic target and a minimal / custom package selection 15:39 < rxr> the embedded target is targetting very tiny boards and will give you more problems than solutions for your normal workstations++ class hardware 15:41 < Cyda> alright thanks for the info, i'll give that a shot 15:44 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.80.189.242] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:45 < CIA-9> rene * r24798 /trunk/package/x11/xterm/xterm.desc: * updated xterm (226 -> 227) 15:55 -!- pdinoto [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 16:06 < pdinoto> rxr: the rescue target builds using glibc. I remember you told me that 16:06 < pdinoto> you changed that for a special build. Where should I revert that change? 16:06 < pdinoto> I want to try it with uclibc, if possible. 16:11 < rxr> I switched this for x86-64 builds as well as fuse-zfs 16:11 < rxr> fuse-zfs builds with uclibc - when patched - but does not work qutie right then 16:11 < rxr> you can edit: target/rescue/config.in 16:11 < rxr> change: 16:11 < rxr> SDECFGSET_LIBC='glibc' 16:11 < rxr> SDECFGSET_LIBC='uclibc' 16:12 < rxr> and the pkgsel, likewise 16:12 < pdinoto> oh, ok. 16:13 < rxr> you build for x86 or so ? 16:13 < pdinoto> I will reduce the packages to bare minimum, so fuse-zfs should not be a problem for me. 16:13 < rxr> because just using uclibc or dietlibc does not result in a bootable cd on 64bit builds due to the absense of a 32bit libc for grub 16:14 < pdinoto> yes, low power x86 (geode and the like), but x86. 16:43 < kic-> /whois cyrda 16:43 < kic-> oops 16:53 < sepp> /whois kic- 16:53 < sepp> :) 16:54 < kic-> heh 16:58 [Users #t2] 16:58 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ kic-] [ pdinoto ] [ sepp ] [ wbx ] 16:58 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX ] [ write_erase] 16:58 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 16:58 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 17:19 -!- cbrake is now known as cbrake_away 17:23 < pdinoto> rxr: what would be the root password in rescue? 17:23 < pdinoto> I finished a standard build, and X is not starting (fonts missing, I think) 17:23 < kic-> bIgt3t4s 17:23 < kic-> or something 17:23 < kic-> :D 17:23 < kic-> jk, i dunno 17:23 < rxr> pdinoto: was'nt the root password just empty ? 17:24 < pdinoto> nope. 17:24 < pdinoto> will try with init=/bin/sh at boot... 17:26 < pdinoto> hmmm... I am inside the /mnt/live, and /etc/shadow has no password for root 17:26 < pdinoto> I guess something else is denying my login. 17:28 < CIA-9> rene * r24799 /trunk/package/python/itools/itools.desc: * updated itools (0.15.6 -> 0.16.0) 17:30 < rxr> pdinoto: I think the rootfs overlay passowrd injection is missing in trunk:HEAD 17:30 < rxr> in former times this was inserted by the generic livecd code, but we removed it because this is not part of the underlying live-technology, but depends to the target 17:30 < rxr> the rescue target must be fixed to inject the empty root password again 17:31 < rxr> or better, yet (maybe) to generiate a random password on livecd startup and print it in the login issue 17:31 < rxr> so only local people see it and remote people can not instantly login 17:32 < pdinoto> where does the password injection happens in generic? 17:33 < rxr> not in generic 17:33 < rxr> if at all in the desktop /rootfs/etc/ ... overlay 17:33 < pdinoto> oh, ok. 17:33 < rxr> one second I dig something out for the rescue case 17:34 < CIA-9> rene * r24800 /trunk/package/editors/zile/zile.desc: * updated zile (2.2.35 -> 2.2.36) 17:35 < rxr> btw. the change was in r23253 17:38 < rxr> hm 17:40 < rxr> pdinoto: svn up and Build-Target 17:40 < CIA-9> rene * r24801 /trunk/target/rescue/rootfs/etc/shadow: * reverted r23253, as the livecd does not implement policy, just mechanism 17:40 < rxr> the resulting iso should have an empty root hash 17:40 < pdinoto> ok... will try and let you know. 17:45 < rxr> :-) 17:45 < pdinoto> hmmm... now I am builing locally and saw this: 17:46 < pdinoto> Running mkfontscale / mkfontdir ... 17:46 < pdinoto> /usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi 17:46 < pdinoto> /etc/postinstall.d/xorg: line 21: mkfontscale: command not found 17:46 < pdinoto> I guess that is why X is not starting... 17:46 < rxr> aha 17:46 < rxr> yeah 17:55 < pdinoto> rxr: new build has empty password. thanks. 17:56 < rxr> :-) 17:56 < rxr> pdinoto: mkfontscale should be in the package selection list 17:56 < rxr> strange 17:56 < rxr> srange that it is not found when the post build stuff prepares the filesystem root 17:57 < rxr> maybe a PATH issue 17:57 < rxr> what distribution do you build on ? 18:02 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Fatal, LMJ, CIA-9, valentin 18:02 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: CIA-8 18:04 -!- Netsplit over, joins: LMJ, Fatal, valentin, CIA-9 18:04 -!- Netsplit over, joins: CIA-8 18:53 < rxr> heh - google for computex and you get: http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=461 19:11 -!- wbx [n=wbx@gw.aurisp.de] has quit [No route to host] 19:13 -!- wbx [n=wbx@xdsl-213-196-245-231.netcologne.de] has joined #t2 19:53 -!- cbrake_away is now known as cbrake 19:57 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 20:05 [Users #t2] 20:05 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ kic-] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ valentin ] 20:05 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ pdinoto ] [ sepp ] [ wbx ] 20:05 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal] [ misl] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX] [ write_erase] 20:05 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 20:06 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@81.80.156.36] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:26 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADB109.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 20:26 < tri> moin 20:38 -!- wbx [n=wbx@xdsl-213-196-245-231.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:43 < tri> und wie gehts uns so ? 20:43 < tri> err 20:43 < tri> sorry wrong channel 20:44 < sepp> :) 20:44 < sepp> gut, und selbst? 20:44 < sepp> :p 20:44 < tri> auch gut ;-( 20:45 < tri> s/(/) 20:45 < tri> :-) 21:08 < Cyda> whats the best way to include my custom busybox config file? 21:11 < sepp> if you make your own target to can override it with target/foo/pkg_busybox.conf 21:12 < Cyda> ty 21:25 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADB109.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #t2 [] 21:41 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADB109.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 21:42 < tri> http://www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com/issues/01-02/01_02_booze_rules.htm 21:51 < Cyda> how about if i want to include my own busybox config in a generic target? 21:51 < Cyda> sepp, that didnt work out too well 21:54 < sepp> you made a target/generic/pkg_busybox.conf or what? 21:54 < Cyda> yeah 21:55 < Cyda> the config file was not read 21:55 < sepp> which one? 21:55 < sepp> the one in target/.../ ? 21:56 < Cyda> yes 21:56 < sepp> uhm 21:56 < Cyda> i did a make menuconfig in a busybox ( same version ) directory and copied the resulting .config file to targe/generic/pkg_busybox.conf 21:57 < sepp> make menuconfig? 21:57 < sepp> the kernel config thingy? 21:57 < Cyda> yeah busybox uses the same to make a custom one 21:58 < sepp> ohh, i thought you mean a t2 package .conf 21:58 < sepp> well, that will not work 21:58 < Cyda> ok now you lost me, i have a busybox config file and i want t2 to use it when building busybox 21:58 < Cyda> kinda like you can do the same thing with the kernel 21:59 < sepp> i misunderstood you 1st 21:59 < Cyda> thats cool, any ideas? 21:59 < sepp> i was not aware that there is a kernel like config for busybox 22:00 < Cyda> yeah you can choose what you want it to build 22:00 < sepp> like: O CONFIG_INSTALL_APPLET_SYMLINKS 22:01 < sepp> ? 22:01 < Cyda> well yeah but prettier 22:02 < sepp> if [ -e $targetdir/busybox.config ] ... "Adding busybox config from target dir" 22:02 < sepp> :) 22:02 < sepp> from package/base/busybox/busybox.conf 22:03 < Cyda> yeah i named it busybox.conf too ;-/ 22:03 < sepp> then i dont know 22:03 < sepp> i never used busybox 22:03 < Cyda> busybox.config rather 22:04 < Cyda> alright, ty anyway 22:07 < sepp> maybe enable xtrace and look at the logfile 22:12 < sepp> rxr: i did a fresh rebuild from trunk r24798, 5-glibc does a touch .../stubs-{32,64}.h but -32 is not in the flist 22:16 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADB109.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #t2 [] 23:06 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@bon13-2-82-237-125-220.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 23:17 -!- pdinoto [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:37 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]"] --- Log closed Fri Jun 29 00:00:33 2007