T2 IRC Log: 2007-06-27
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--- Log opened Wed Jun 27 00:00:30 2007
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00:34 < sepp> can i rebuild some package and just install the .so's renamed, in some easy way?
00:34 < sepp> like libfoo.so -> libfoo-bar.so
00:36 < wbx> no. ;=)
00:39 < wbx> the binary references the library SONAME, see objdump -x binary ; f.e.
00:39 < sepp> not a vm where i load them at runtime anyway
00:43 < sepp> i guess one could do some voodoo with an install_wrapper filter
00:44 < wbx> if you know gcc/ld, it might be possible. but i didn't get your problem.
00:46 < sepp> i am messing around with c callout and i would like to have libfoo.so* and libfoo-debug.so* ;)
00:49 < sepp> was just wondering if there would be an easy way to do that with t2, not howto change soname in existing binary files
00:50 < sepp> you could use LD_PRELOAD anyway
00:56 < sepp> well, nevermind ...
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07:32 < shevy> How can you guys detect build time dependencies? Scanning configure or something?
07:33 < Ragnarin> check the files the package accesses during build
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08:44 < rxr> e
08:45 [Users #t2]
08:45 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur] [ kic^] [ pdinoto_] [ sepp ] [ TobiX ]
08:45 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ kic_] [ Ragnarin] [ shevy] [ valentin]
08:45 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz]
08:45 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
08:46 < sepp> moin rxr :)
08:48 < rxr> moin moin sepp and Ragnarin
08:52 < sepp> i think bash has some parallel issue, last 3 times i started build-target it failed in 1 or 3 on the 1st run
08:54 < rxr> it also failed in 1 of 17 cross build tests on my dual-g5
08:54 < rxr> I wrote down the file that was missing during the build if you like to debug it if it is the same missing file as you had ?
08:55 < Ragnarin> moin
08:55 < sepp> i was smart enough to remove the error :/
08:55 < rxr> heh
08:55 < rxr> I boot the G5 right now into Linux (was in OS X)
08:55 < rxr> and paste the missing file I got for reference
08:57 < sepp> "test -n "ranlib" && ranlib libreadline.a" last line in the build-target output
08:59 < rxr> my build was a cross build from powerpc64 to sparc64 (for testing, ongoing reference cross testing) failing with: sparc64-t2-linux-gnu-ar: mbutil.o: No such file or directory
09:01 < sepp> i will rebuild later, i am sure it will pop up again :)
09:01 < rxr> yes, best it to fix
09:01 < rxr> this is why I did not marked it NOPARALLEL immediatly
09:02 < rxr> as with all the new systems that are rather multi-core whatever than clocked infinite it would be favourable to have it building in parallel for real
09:10 < sepp> :)
09:11 < rxr> btw. I'll be abroad for the full day and gone in some minutes
09:12 < Ragnarin> ok have fun :)
09:12 < rxr> well, not sure if it will be much fun
09:19 < rxr> cu
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09:31 < misl> hi folks
09:32 < mtr> hi misl
09:32 < misl> hi mtr :-)
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10:02 < tri> moin
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10:47 < tri> re
10:48 < CIA-9> susan * r24785 /trunk/package/kde/k3b/k3b.desc: * updated k3b (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
10:48 < CIA-9> susan * r24786 /trunk/package/kde/k3b-i18n/k3b-i18n.desc: * updated k3b-i18n (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
10:48 < CIA-9> susan * r24787 /trunk/package/graphic/dcraw/dcraw.desc: * updated dcraw (8.75 -> 8.76)
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12:50 < sepp> usr/lib6464/libpopt.la: libdir='/usr/lib6464'
12:51 < sepp> weird
12:51 < sepp> /usr/lib64/libpopt.la*
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14:51 < kic_> re
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16:33 < kic-> re
16:33 < kic-> Rene, when you get back, can you msg me please
16:49 < sepp> hi kic- :)
16:49 < kic-> hiya
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18:35 < LMJ> moin moin ;)
18:54 < rxr> re
18:54 < rxr> hi
18:54 < rxr> hi kic- and LMJ
19:06 < rxr> http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/15-07/ff_hansreiser
19:32 < shevy> man
19:32 < shevy> the pic looks like zombie nation or something ;)
19:36 < rxr> Mesa 7.0 released
19:36 < rxr> guess I got some stuff todo then at home later on ...
19:36 < rxr> On June 22nd Mesa 7.0 was released, featuring OpenGL 2.0 and 2.1 support among other features.
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19:40 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal]
20:07 < LMJ> how are you rxr ?
20:15 < rxr> oh - good
20:15 < rxr> LMJ: and you ?
20:16 < LMJ> fine, finally back ;)
20:21 < rxr> :-)
20:23 < rxr> ok - /me heading home late enough already here - cu then
20:24 < LMJ> CU
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--- Log closed Thu Jun 28 00:00:32 2007
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00:34 < sepp> can i rebuild some package and just install the .so's renamed, in some easy way?
00:34 < sepp> like libfoo.so -> libfoo-bar.so
00:36 < wbx> no. ;=)
00:39 < wbx> the binary references the library SONAME, see objdump -x binary ; f.e.
00:39 < sepp> not a vm where i load them at runtime anyway
00:43 < sepp> i guess one could do some voodoo with an install_wrapper filter
00:44 < wbx> if you know gcc/ld, it might be possible. but i didn't get your problem.
00:46 < sepp> i am messing around with c callout and i would like to have libfoo.so* and libfoo-debug.so* ;)
00:49 < sepp> was just wondering if there would be an easy way to do that with t2, not howto change soname in existing binary files
00:50 < sepp> you could use LD_PRELOAD anyway
00:56 < sepp> well, nevermind ...
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07:32 < shevy> How can you guys detect build time dependencies? Scanning configure or something?
07:33 < Ragnarin> check the files the package accesses during build
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08:44 < rxr> e
08:45 [Users #t2]
08:45 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur] [ kic^] [ pdinoto_] [ sepp ] [ TobiX ]
08:45 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ kic_] [ Ragnarin] [ shevy] [ valentin]
08:45 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz]
08:45 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
08:46 < sepp> moin rxr :)
08:48 < rxr> moin moin sepp and Ragnarin
08:52 < sepp> i think bash has some parallel issue, last 3 times i started build-target it failed in 1 or 3 on the 1st run
08:54 < rxr> it also failed in 1 of 17 cross build tests on my dual-g5
08:54 < rxr> I wrote down the file that was missing during the build if you like to debug it if it is the same missing file as you had ?
08:55 < Ragnarin> moin
08:55 < sepp> i was smart enough to remove the error :/
08:55 < rxr> heh
08:55 < rxr> I boot the G5 right now into Linux (was in OS X)
08:55 < rxr> and paste the missing file I got for reference
08:57 < sepp> "test -n "ranlib" && ranlib libreadline.a" last line in the build-target output
08:59 < rxr> my build was a cross build from powerpc64 to sparc64 (for testing, ongoing reference cross testing) failing with: sparc64-t2-linux-gnu-ar: mbutil.o: No such file or directory
09:01 < sepp> i will rebuild later, i am sure it will pop up again :)
09:01 < rxr> yes, best it to fix
09:01 < rxr> this is why I did not marked it NOPARALLEL immediatly
09:02 < rxr> as with all the new systems that are rather multi-core whatever than clocked infinite it would be favourable to have it building in parallel for real
09:10 < sepp> :)
09:11 < rxr> btw. I'll be abroad for the full day and gone in some minutes
09:12 < Ragnarin> ok have fun :)
09:12 < rxr> well, not sure if it will be much fun
09:19 < rxr> cu
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09:31 < misl> hi folks
09:32 < mtr> hi misl
09:32 < misl> hi mtr :-)
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10:02 < tri> moin
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10:47 < tri> re
10:48 < CIA-9> susan * r24785 /trunk/package/kde/k3b/k3b.desc: * updated k3b (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
10:48 < CIA-9> susan * r24786 /trunk/package/kde/k3b-i18n/k3b-i18n.desc: * updated k3b-i18n (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
10:48 < CIA-9> susan * r24787 /trunk/package/graphic/dcraw/dcraw.desc: * updated dcraw (8.75 -> 8.76)
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12:50 < sepp> usr/lib6464/libpopt.la: libdir='/usr/lib6464'
12:51 < sepp> weird
12:51 < sepp> /usr/lib64/libpopt.la*
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14:51 < kic_> re
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16:33 < kic-> re
16:33 < kic-> Rene, when you get back, can you msg me please
16:49 < sepp> hi kic- :)
16:49 < kic-> hiya
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18:35 < LMJ> moin moin ;)
18:54 < rxr> re
18:54 < rxr> hi
18:54 < rxr> hi kic- and LMJ
19:06 < rxr> http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/15-07/ff_hansreiser
19:32 < shevy> man
19:32 < shevy> the pic looks like zombie nation or something ;)
19:36 < rxr> Mesa 7.0 released
19:36 < rxr> guess I got some stuff todo then at home later on ...
19:36 < rxr> On June 22nd Mesa 7.0 was released, featuring OpenGL 2.0 and 2.1 support among other features.
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19:40 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur] [ kic^] [ pdinoto_] [ shevy ]
19:40 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz ]
19:40 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal ] [ misl] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
19:40 [ Cyda ] [ kic- ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
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20:07 < LMJ> how are you rxr ?
20:15 < rxr> oh - good
20:15 < rxr> LMJ: and you ?
20:16 < LMJ> fine, finally back ;)
20:21 < rxr> :-)
20:23 < rxr> ok - /me heading home late enough already here - cu then
20:24 < LMJ> CU
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