--- Log opened Sat Jun 16 00:00:18 2007 01:01 -!- bfg [n=bfg@203-206-57-245.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:35 -!- kic [i=kic@adsl-074-246-112-038.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has quit [] 01:35 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@pD9E116EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 01:47 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E125DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:47 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 01:52 -!- Ragnarin [n=loki@D8FA4DE6.ptr.dia.nextlink.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:22 -!- Ragnarin [n=loki@D8FA4DE6.ptr.dia.nextlink.net] has joined #t2 03:51 -!- kic- [n=kicstah@c-67-191-95-53.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #t2 03:57 < kic-> anyone here that administrates the mailing list? 03:57 < kic-> i tried to subscribe, but spam checker bounced it back to me, scored to high 03:57 -!- kic- is now known as kic 03:58 -!- kic is now known as kic- 05:58 -!- kic_ [n=kicstah@c-67-191-95-53.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #t2 05:58 -!- kic- [n=kicstah@c-67-191-95-53.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:14 -!- Cyda [n=Cyda@c-66-176-203-71.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:35 -!- bfg [n=bfg@203-206-57-245.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #t2 08:44 < rxr> re 08:44 < rxr> kic_: yes - me 08:50 < CIA-9> rene * r24578 /trunk/package/archiver/dpkg/dpkg.desc: * updated dpkg (1.14.3 -> 1.14.4) 09:05 < rxr> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9024559 09:08 < CIA-9> susan * r24579 /trunk/package/games/glchess/glchess.desc: * updated glchess (1.0.5 -> 1.0.6) 09:09 < CIA-9> susan * r24580 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-launch-box/gnome-launch-box.desc: * updated gnome-launch-box (0.2 -> 0.3) 09:09 < CIA-9> susan * r24581 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+.desc: * updated gtk+ (2.10.12 -> 2.10.13) 09:11 -!- kic_ [n=kicstah@c-67-191-95-53.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:12 -!- kic- [n=kicstah@c-67-191-95-53.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #t2 09:13 < rxr> kic-: which filter rules scored for you? 09:13 < rxr> this should be in the mail header 09:13 [Users #t2] 09:13 [@ChanServ] [ cbrake] [ emte] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ] 09:13 [ bfg ] [ CIA-9 ] [ kic-] [ Ragnarin] [ sepp_] [ valentin] 09:13 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal] 09:17 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADA2CF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 09:22 < tri> moin 09:27 < rxr> moin tri 09:40 < CIA-9> susan * r24582 /trunk/package/x11/cairo/cairo.desc: * updated cairo (1.4.6 -> 1.4.8) 09:49 < CIA-9> rene * r24583 /trunk/package/base/glibc/arm-old-abi.patch: * fixed non-EABI ARM build of glibc 09:51 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-16-45-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has joined #t2 09:51 < rxr> hi DeeKey 09:51 [Users #t2] 09:51 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ kic- ] [ rxr ] [ tri ] 09:51 [ bfg ] [ DeeKey] [ mtr ] [ sepp_] [ valentin] 09:51 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX] 09:51 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 09:57 < DeeKey> hello to ALL 09:59 < DeeKey> I have recently started using t2 project after unsuccessful attempts with OE 09:59 < DeeKey> my aim is to create small sized embedded distro based on RTAI. 10:00 < rxr> RTAI the real-time patchset ? 10:00 < DeeKey> t2 seems to support both RTAI and comedi right out of the box. But unfortunately both comedi and RTAI are outdated.. 10:01 < DeeKey> rxr: YES RTAI is a hard real time patch. 10:01 < rxr> yeah - that was the next thing I wanted to say 10:01 < rxr> these two patches are unfortunatly areas that did not receive much attention in T2 in the past 10:01 < rxr> I guess OE has no support for neither, has it? 10:02 < rxr> would be very nice if you could just update what you need 10:02 < rxr> the rest of T2 should be a a pretty up-to-date and good shape 10:02 < DeeKey> There are no support for comedi and RTAI in OE 10:02 < DeeKey> HA, that what I am trying to do 10:03 < rxr> :-) 10:04 < DeeKey> but now I faced some troubles compiling Embedded-GENERIC distro... 10:04 < DeeKey> the build is failed on building Building archiver/tar 10:05 < DeeKey> could someone help me solve this issue? 10:06 < rxr> you build for x86, right ? 10:06 < DeeKey> yes 10:06 < rxr> I would only use embedded when you want to cross build very minimal system 10:06 < DeeKey> building on Ubuntu Feisty (7.04) 10:06 < rxr> better use the generic target with a minimal package selection template 10:06 < rxr> that is way more easier to build 10:07 < rxr> building on ubuntu should just work 10:08 < DeeKey> Actually I am going to build my own stripped to minimum distro. 10:08 < DeeKey> I used WRT as a template, and created pksel file to select packages I need. 10:09 < rxr> ah ok 10:09 < rxr> that sound good as well 10:09 < rxr> can you post your exact build error to take a look what's going on ? 10:09 < rxr> you use trunk or 7.0 I guess? 10:09 < rxr> or the older 6.0 branch ? 10:09 < DeeKey> the first one (7) 10:10 < DeeKey> from SVN 10:11 < DeeKey> I will post it to postbin not to mess the channel... Just forget the URL.... 10:11 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 SDE | 7.0-rc released! | trunk heading for 8.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org 10:11 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Sat Jun 2 08:21:00 2007] 10:14 < DeeKey> hmmm the url of postbin (or whatever) just went out of my mind... :( I will post the output here... 10:14 < DeeKey> == 22:25:18 =[1]=> Building archiver/tar [1.17 7.0-trunk]. 10:14 < DeeKey> -> Reading package config: package/archiver/tar/tar.conf 10:14 < DeeKey> -> Preparing build in src.tar.system.20070615.222517.32289.embeded 10:14 < DeeKey> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/1-tar.out 10:14 < DeeKey> !> mv -f .deps/xstrtoumax.Tpo .deps/xstrtoumax.Po 10:14 < DeeKey> !> i686-t2-linux-uclibc-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -g -O2 -MT paxerror. .. 10:14 < DeeKey> !> In file included from ./system.h:441, 10:15 < DeeKey> !> from paxerror.c:19: 10:15 < DeeKey> !> ./sys/time.h:49: error: conflicting types for 'restrict' 10:15 < DeeKey> !> ./sys/time.h:49: error: previous definition of 'restrict' was here 10:15 < DeeKey> !> Due to previous errors, no 1-tar.log file! 10:15 < DeeKey> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build syst .. 10:15 < DeeKey> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-tar.out -> 1-tar.err 10:15 < DeeKey> == 06/15/07 22:25:56 =[1]=> Aborted building package tar. 10:15 < rxr> ah - I saw this once already 10:15 < rxr> I do an arm testbuild right now 10:15 < rxr> hopefully I hit the same then as well and can take a look 10:16 < rxr> I think the last time I had this on some test-build I guided the configure script to define some ac_whatever_restrict in any case 10:16 < DeeKey> Forget to mention that this is for EMBEDDED generic build 10:17 < rxr> I can probable take a look when my build hits this in some minutes 10:19 < DeeKey> another question: I created folder for a new target in /target dir. And copied WRT folder to it. There already were folder called /package As far as I understood this folder overrides the standard location od package folder? Am i right? 10:19 < rxr> yes, that is correct 10:20 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/handbook/html/t2.target.modifications.html 10:22 < DeeKey> thank you for the link! 10:23 < DeeKey> but why the compilation process is still executed even if I have selected no packages? 10:23 < rxr> what do you mean ? 10:24 < DeeKey> I have commented all packages in pkgsel file. 10:25 < rxr> do you have commented out all lines? 10:25 < DeeKey> all packages 10:25 < rxr> with an empty rule-set many packages are selected by default 10:25 < rxr> the first line usually is like "O *" to unselect all 10:25 < rxr> and indeed even if you have 0 active packages the Build-Target will still build some helpers until it notices there is nothing to build 10:26 < DeeKey> hmm I have this 0* and it is uncommented. So does it mean that I am compiling nothing? 10:28 < rxr> when you have a totally empty pkgsel then the package selection is in the default state 10:28 < rxr> default state depends on the package, and about 95% of the packages are selected by default 10:29 < rxr> the default state is in all the package's .desc files 10:29 < rxr> the [P] (Priority) tag 10:29 < rxr> most packages have a X, for selected there, only those that conflict with something are disabled by default, with O in the line 10:29 < rxr> the Config displays the currently active package count on the top 10:30 < rxr> without a pkgsel you probably have like 24xx active packages 10:37 < DeeKey> currently I have according to config only 2 pkgs 10:37 < DeeKey> Ho w to get a list of this packages? 10:37 < rxr> 2 active packages ? 10:37 < rxr> grep '^X' config/.../packages 11:33 < DeeKey> The grep 'X' output with all packages deselected is the following: 11:34 < DeeKey> X 01-------- 101.700 base uclibc 0.9.29 / extra/base CROSS NOPARALLEL LIBC 0 11:34 < DeeKey> X -1-------- 127.000 base minit 0.10 / base/system CROSS DIETLIBC INIT 0 11:34 < DeeKey> hmmm strange why is minit package included? 11:34 < DeeKey> I have commented it... 11:34 < rxr> probably it is selected as init 11:35 < rxr> the init package is selected automatically, explicitly 11:35 < DeeKey> I see. What about your build? Appearantly no problems? 11:37 < rxr> well, problems because I test new ARM features ... 11:37 < rxr> I hope I got thru the ARM related stuff by now 11:37 < DeeKey> but no problems connected with tar? 11:37 < rxr> I did not reached tar yet :-( 11:37 < DeeKey> I see... 11:37 < rxr> but I'm optimistic that this re-build will reach tar *g* 11:38 < CIA-9> rene * r24584 /trunk/architecture/arm/ (archtest.out archtest.sh config.hlp config.in): 11:38 < CIA-9> * added support for selectting the ARM ABI to use (currently old GNU 11:38 < CIA-9> vs. new GNU EABI) 11:38 < CIA-9> * updated ARM optimization options, including correct whitespacing 11:40 < rxr> you can try this in the package/archiver/tar/tar.conf 11:40 < DeeKey> about linux kernel config. Is it possible to use xconfig during the automatic build? Or I had to provide .config file? 11:40 < rxr> you have to provide a .config file 11:40 < rxr> as t2 is about automation 11:41 < rxr> when you want to rebuild your target in 3 weeks due to security patches you likely do not want to click thru xconfig again 11:41 < rxr> regarding tar: 11:42 < rxr> atstage cross && hook_add preconf 3 'echo ac_cv_c_restrict=__restrict' >> config.cache' 11:42 < rxr> ^- untested but could / should work 11:42 < rxr> just add the line to the top of the tar.conf 11:43 < DeeKey> yep that is true... but the other way is to create some basic config file and if user wants he can modify it, by enabling the check box X modify kernel configuration 11:44 < rxr> the user could still modify the config your predefine and rebuild 11:44 < rxr> in t2 you can even wire your own Config time options out 11:44 < rxr> so e.g. you could define some well-known wanted extensions your users would want to select and then enable whole, pre-defined .config blocks in addition to your basic one 11:46 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z7b41.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 11:47 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z7b41.z.pppool.de] has quit [Client Quit] 11:49 < rxr> Lua implementation notes: http://www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/~lhf/ftp/doc/jucs05.pdf 11:51 < CIA-9> rene * r24585 /trunk/package/base/linux26mm/: * removed linux26mm, bitrotting and noone screamed 11:52 < rxr> oh, wb CIA-9 11:53 [Users #t2] 11:53 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ kic- ] [ rxr ] [ tri ] 11:53 [ bfg ] [ DeeKey] [ mtr ] [ sepp_] [ valentin] 11:53 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX] 11:53 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 11:53 < rxr> so - I go for lunch - cu later 11:54 < DeeKey> cu! :) 12:01 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z4a90.z.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:13 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 12:18 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z7b41.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 12:19 < sepp> moin :) 12:21 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z7b41.z.pppool.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:23 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z7b41.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 12:35 < tri> re 12:35 < tri> hi sepp 12:35 < sepp> hi tri :) 12:36 -!- kic_ [n=kicstah@c-67-191-95-53.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #t2 12:43 -!- kic- [n=kicstah@c-67-191-95-53.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 12:53 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z7b41.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 13:15 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z7b41.z.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:35 < tri> Macler einen PEBE.BFD.WWTSY.I.U.AB.BS(=Prebuild Expensive Beauty Case Espacially Build For Daus Who Want To Say, Yes I Use A BSD-Based System) 13:35 < tri> Windowsler einen LPCP.BMW.N.FABAL.WACO.TTMPS.IT.WM.WANA(=Likewise Personal Computer Prebuild By $Manufactorer With No Freedom Attached But At Least With An Combination Of The Two Most Powerfull Softwares In The World Microsoft Windows And Norton Antivirus) 14:32 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-16-45-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has quit ["Leaving."] 15:31 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-16-45-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has joined #t2 15:32 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-16-45-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has left #t2 [] 15:32 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-16-45-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has joined #t2 15:38 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 15:38 < misl> hi folks 15:40 < tri> hi misl 15:47 < DeeKey> hy all! 15:50 < DeeKey> I cannot compile uclibc. I have only three packages: dirtree, uclibc, minit. 15:50 < DeeKey> What could be the solution? here is output: http://pastebin.com/930215 15:52 < sepp_> only 3 packages? no gcc ? 15:52 < DeeKey> nope! 15:52 < DeeKey> I am building an embedded distro 15:52 < DeeKey> I will compile a code for it on my host machine, so no need for gcc 15:53 < sepp_> you still need a (cross)compiler 15:54 < DeeKey> Actuallyy the same output will be with gcc enabled.. 15:54 < sepp_> the build system is a sandbox, it has to build a compiler in the beginning 15:57 < DeeKey> hmmm.... I though that every package will be buildt on its own according to the config I made... 15:57 < DeeKey> But anyway, it does not compile even with gcc enabled :) 15:57 < DeeKey> :( 15:59 < sepp_> you will also need binutils and the other stuff 16:01 < DeeKey> I use WRT target as a base 16:03 < sepp_> i guess that should have >3 packages 16:03 < DeeKey> and binutils and other stuff is exist in pkglist. I have also enabled it now, with no results... 16:04 < sepp_> has it also built gcc ? 16:04 < DeeKey> yes 16:04 < sepp_> hmmm 16:04 < DeeKey> I think that there is a problem with uclibc 16:04 < DeeKey> package 16:06 < DeeKey> Whay uclibc is the first in a row to be built? 16:08 < sepp_> if it starts with 1-uclibc there is something wrong with your config 16:08 < sepp_> 1st is stage 0 ... 16:09 < sepp_> and maybe you should choose 'generic embedded' 16:10 < sepp_> Wireless Router (incomplete!) 16:12 < DeeKey> there was also the problem with tar in embedded package. Rene gave me a hint to solve it. But compilation take time. I will do it this night... 16:12 < DeeKey> But still I need to create my own distro 16:13 < DeeKey> I am going to build hard real time emnedded distro 16:13 < DeeKey> it should contain only really needed stuff 16:14 < DeeKey> no gcc :) Will it be good if your DVD player could compile programs? Does it really needed ?! 16:16 < sepp_> no, but to compile software for the dvd player you still need a compiler 16:16 < DeeKey> yes cross compiler! 16:16 < sepp_> t2 will build one for you 16:17 < DeeKey> exactly! As far as I understood, t2 can build only one package if needed! 16:18 < DeeKey> and It will resolve all neded dependency itslef. 16:18 < sepp_> not with Build-Targer 16:18 < sepp_> Build-Target 16:19 < tri> i can't build x264 16:19 < tri> got: 16:20 < tri> dct-a.asm:731: error: invalid operands in non-64-bit mode 16:20 < tri> i'm on x86 16:20 < sepp_> tri: downdate nasm and rebuild it 16:25 < tri> sepp_: ok thx build is running... 16:28 < DeeKey> sepp_: i still think that the problem is isnide uclibc package, because: 16:28 < DeeKey> *> The use of custmain is deprecated, please use hooks instead. 16:28 < DeeKey> !> You should not call uname during the build! 16:29 < sepp_> /bin/sh: Cross_CC_not_built_so_far_cc: not found 16:31 < DeeKey> yes and how to build this cross_CC first? 16:31 < sepp_> it will be build for you, that is why you need gcc ... 16:32 < tri> 17:04 < tr1> why should i not use "custmain" and would should i use for it ? 16:32 < tri> 17:31 < sepp> that is just a warning, the world will not perish :) 16:32 < tri> from 06-12 16:32 < sepp_> grep gcc config/YOURCONFIG/packages 16:37 < tri> hm - i have the change to take a look at the openmoko device next week :-) 16:38 < tri> the Emerge-Pkg version info is not that nice 16:41 < tri> hm downdate nasm to 99.00 but got the same error if i build x264 16:41 < DeeKey> My problem was that I haven't made configure, after editing the package file. I thought that target-build will "eat" it by defaul... 16:43 < sepp_> tri: i think 0.98.39 16:45 < tri> sepp_: thx build is running again... 16:52 < DeeKey> thank you sepp! after I have added the needed stuff and updated configuration everything (up to now) compiling without errors 16:53 < sepp_> :) 16:56 < DeeKey> ha. It failed again. But I think that I know why: due to the absence of linux config... But just to be shure could you peek inside the ouput? http://pastebin.com/930263 16:57 < tri> maybe you can paste the log file ? 16:57 < sepp_> the actual error would be in src.linux.../ERROR-LOG 16:57 < DeeKey> ok wait.. 16:58 < sepp_> but i think you should really use generic-embedded 16:58 < tri> sepp_: with nasm 0.98.39 x264 compiles 16:58 < tri> sepp_: thx for the hit 17:00 < DeeKey> here it is http://pastebin.com/930266 17:01 < sepp_> hmmm 17:02 < tri> what is `no2modconfig' 17:02 < sepp_> no clue 17:21 < kic_> rxr: it doesn't tell me which filter rules scored, all it says is: 17:21 < kic_> : host mx1.t2-project.org[212.202.170.151] said: 550 This 17:21 < kic_> message scored 5.2 points in the SPAM checker. 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