--- Log opened Fri Jun 15 00:00:16 2007 00:03 -!- bfg_ [n=blacky@203-206-57-245.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #t2 00:03 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z5099.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 00:10 -!- bfg_ is now known as _bfg 00:10 -!- _bfg is now known as bfg_ 00:11 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z6eda.z.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:27 -!- bfg_ is now known as bfg 01:18 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.30.171] has joined #t2 01:22 < CIA-9> gweis * r24540 /trunk/package/base/popt/ (glibc2.2.patch popt.conf popt.desc): 01:22 < CIA-9> * updated popt (1.7 -> 1.10.7) and added url tag 01:22 < CIA-9> * removed obsolete glibc2.2.patch 01:30 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.30.171] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007031001]"] 01:32 < CIA-9> gweis * r24541 /trunk/package/base/sudo/sudo.conf: * enable pam support in sudo if pam is available 01:43 -!- bfg [n=blacky@203-206-57-245.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:58 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@pD9E12899.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 02:15 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E12CA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:15 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 03:33 -!- Cyda [n=Cyda@c-66-176-203-71.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #t2 06:43 -!- bfg [n=bfg@203-206-57-245.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #t2 06:59 < CIA-9> gweis * r24542 /trunk/package/security/openct/openct.desc: * updated openct (0.6.11 -> 0.6.12-pre2) to solve compile issues 07:33 < CIA-9> gweis * r24543 /trunk/package/kde/kdelibs/kerberos_fix.patch: * added patch to help kdelibs to identify heimdal correctly 07:34 < CIA-9> gweis * r24544 /trunk/package/kde/kdelibs/kerberos_fix.patch: * added missing copyright notice to kerberos_fix.patch 07:35 < CIA-9> gweis * r24545 /trunk/package/kde/kdelibs/ (libz_dep.patch libz_dep.patch.disabled): * deactivated libz_dep.patch for kdelibs. seems to be obsolete now 07:36 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 07:36 < CIA-9> gweis * r24546 /trunk/package/kde/kdevelop/ (kdevelop.conf kdevelop.desc): 07:36 < CIA-9> * changed kdevelop build priority (206.800 -> 290.000) 07:36 < CIA-9> * fixed compile issues by removing --enable-final from confopts 07:42 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]"] 07:47 < CIA-9> gweis * r24547 /trunk/package/kde/qt4/qt4.conf: * changed default qt4 prefix to opt/qt4 (instead of opt/qt33) 07:48 < CIA-9> gweis * r24548 /trunk/package/kde/kdebluetooth/ (bluez-3.5.patch kdebluetooth.desc): 07:48 < CIA-9> * updated kdebluetooth (0.99+1.0beta1-12 -> 1.0_beta2) 07:48 < CIA-9> * removed obsolete bluez-3.5.patch 08:11 -!- sunmage [n=gba@p508485B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 08:14 < sunmage> Hello alltogether, I am on the search for a Linux distro which is source based _and_ has a stable tree like that in Debian, where the packages are "on hold" and only security patches come in. Is T2 fulfilling these requirements? Has T2 a stable branch? I looked at the webpage but I didn't find any info about that. 08:18 < Ragnarin> it does have 08:18 < Ragnarin> 6.0 is stable (but somewhat outdated) 08:18 < Ragnarin> 7.0 should be out sometime soon 08:26 < sunmage> Ragnarin, Thank you for answer. Can you please tell me where on the website of T2 I can find the guide to integrate the security patches? Excuse me, but I find the page very confusing. :) 08:26 < sunmage> The security patches for 6.0 I mean. 08:26 < Ragnarin> you check out the 6.0 branch, and should then run a svn up for that branch periodically to get the updates 08:28 < sunmage> Cool , thank you. 08:31 -!- sunmage [n=gba@p508485B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 08:37 < rxr> re 08:40 [Users #t2] 08:40 [@ChanServ ] [ CIA-9] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 08:40 [ bfg ] [ Cyda ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] 08:40 [ cbrake_away] [ emte ] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX] 08:40 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 08:47 < bfg> hi 08:47 < rxr> hi bfg 08:47 < CIA-9> gweis * r24549 /trunk/package/security/ca-certificates/ (5 files): * added ca-certificates (20070303) - Common CA Certificates PEM files 08:50 < rxr> oh - neat 08:50 < bfg> jep... i like this package :) i'm using it quite a while... i never took the time to commit it (till now :) ) 08:51 < rxr> for which ssl using apps does this package work ? 08:51 < rxr> all openssl users ? 08:51 < bfg> the greatest thing ong it is, that most applications which use openssl accept cacet certificates 08:51 < bfg> openssl yes 08:51 < rxr> there is a stray file in the package 08:51 < rxr> ca-certificates 08:51 < rxr> probably should be .cache :-) 08:51 < bfg> ah yes 08:51 < bfg> i correct this 08:52 < CIA-9> gweis * r24550 /trunk/package/security/ca-certificates/ (ca-certificates ca-certificates.cache): * renamed ca-certificates to ca-certificates.cache 09:04 < CIA-9> gweis * r24551 /trunk/package/graphic/exiv2/ (. exiv2.cache exiv2.desc): * added exiv2 (0.14) - A C++ library and a command line utility to access image metadata 09:04 < bfg> slowly my trunk cleans up :) 09:05 < bfg> or better my trunk checkout 09:07 -!- tr1 [n=Richter@pd95b2df8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 09:07 < tr1> moin 09:19 < rxr> moin tr1 09:20 < rxr> bfg: "working copy" the name is :-) 09:22 < tr1> hm i now have untared the silc-toolkit and changed the stringprep.h name and changed every Makefile include etc. 09:22 < tr1> if i build it now manuel it works - but how to make a patch ? 09:24 < rxr> rename the directory to have some extension, like -fixed 09:24 < rxr> and untar the tarball again 09:24 < rxr> then diff -urN silc...-fixed silc... 09:25 < CIA-9> susan * r24552 /trunk/package/base/man-pages/man-pages.desc: * updated man-pages (2.51 -> 2.56) 09:25 < tr1> ah ok thx 09:32 < rxr> err the diff of course the other way round: 09:32 < rxr> then diff -urN silc... silc...-fixed :-)) 09:34 < tr1> hm 09:35 < tr1> my screen is now wasted with a lot text - thats right ? 09:35 < CIA-9> susan * r24553 /trunk/package/network/mldonkey/mldonkey.desc: * updated mldonkey (2.8.5 -> 2.8.7) 09:35 < tr1> a ok i have to > 123.patch ? 09:35 < CIA-9> susan * r24554 /trunk/package/gnome2/meld/meld.desc: * updated meld (1.1.5 -> 1.1.5.1) 09:35 < rxr> yes 09:36 < tr1> and i have to tar this file then ? 09:38 < tr1> i mean i now have the diff file which is called silc... .patch - do i have to tar this file or just copy it to the package.../silc-toolkit/ directory ? 09:39 < emte> just drop in directory 09:39 < emte> its a text file 09:39 < CIA-9> susan * r24555 /trunk/package/network/tcpdump/tcpdump.desc: * updated tcpdump (3.9.5 -> 3.9.6) 09:45 < tr1> ah ok the patch is working 09:45 < tr1> it says patching file ... 09:47 < tr1> hm but the stringprep.h is still found and there is this error about shared files with libidn 09:48 < tr1> in the silc-toolkit.conf i did hood add preconf 5 'mv lib/contrib/stringprep.h lib/contrib/stringprep_silc.h' ? 09:53 < bfg> rxr: what is this special fix_source in libgphoto.conf about?... it seems, that it is not needed anymore.... i did a build wihthout it... no errors... any complaints about removing i? 09:56 < rxr> 1 minute 09:56 < rxr> on phote 09:56 < bfg> no hurry :) 10:01 < bfg> iirc this fix_source was needed in older versions of libgphoto to build libgphoto itself... now ican only that the additional headers may be needed by some packages which depend on libgphoto but those that i built don't complain 10:19 < rxr> so ew 10:19 < rxr> so re 10:19 < rxr> had to discuss for quite some time with Apple on the phone to receive an new battery 10:19 < rxr> for the one that just died yesterday, and is not even recognized at all anymore 10:19 < rxr> damn low quality crap 10:22 < bfg> thats the fist time i heardthe combination apple and low quality :) 10:22 < rxr> apple is design only 10:22 < rxr> pure hardware design 10:23 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2006-12-21/apple-macbook-core-2-duo-c2d-review/ 10:23 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2006-06-26/apple-macbook-review/ 10:24 < rxr> bfg: where is this fix_source thing? 10:24 < rxr> I do not see it in the gphoto packages 10:24 < bfg> its in the conf file 10:25 < tr1> if i do a diff on a old and a new directory and i have renamed files in the new direcotry how is this handelt ? 10:25 < rxr> I have no libgphoto.conf - maybe it is your local copy modification only ? 10:25 < bfg> um.... sory my bi fault...... i overlooked th ? in svn status 10:26 < rxr> no problem :-) 10:26 < rxr> so - I guess I have to blog about my failed battery 10:26 < bfg> i have so many little adaptionsthat i'm sometimes confused about svn status 10:31 < tr1> ah ok if i rename files the patch file includes this 10:33 < tr1> hm maybe time to read the svn handbook... 10:45 < tr1> ok the patch is applyed by the build system but still not working :-( 10:45 < tr1> if i look in src.silc-toolkit... there isn't a stringprep.h 10:45 < rxr> you need to deinstall the silc-toolkit 10:46 < tr1> ? 10:46 < tr1> with mine ? 10:46 < rxr> even if the new version does not install the .h anymore the admin files still have it as it was in the former packag version 10:46 < rxr> if you do build inside your running system with Build-Pkg Or Emerge-Pkg they yes, with mine 10:47 < tr1> ah ok 10:48 < rxr> the /var/adm/flists are accumulated 10:48 < rxr> otherwise the package management would loose track of files on updates 10:48 < rxr> that must not happen 10:52 < tr1> hoho ! 10:52 < tr1> finished building package silc-toolkit :-) 10:52 < tr1> thx :-) 10:53 < tr1> autocompletion bash for the ./scriptes/... would be nice :-) 10:58 < rxr> :-) patches welcome 11:14 < tr1> and here are the pidgin patches for silc-1.1: http://silcnet.org/priikone/pidgin/ 11:21 < tr1> hm what are .loT files ? 11:41 < rxr> where do you see those files? 11:41 < rxr> probably some lib tool whatever files or so 11:44 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z4a90.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 11:44 < tr1> ah ok 11:44 < tr1> hi sepp 11:46 < sepp_> hi tr1 :) 11:54 < tr1> hm i get the error: configure.ac:107 error possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_INTLTOOL 11:56 [Users #t2] 11:56 [@ChanServ ] [ CIA-9] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ] 11:56 [ bfg ] [ Cyda ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ tr1 ] 11:56 [ cbrake_away] [ emte ] [ Ragnarin] [ sepp_] [ valentin] 11:56 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 12:00 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z5099.z.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:19 < rxr> Apple confirms that Carbon will not be 64-bit on the Carbon Developer mailing list." In addition, the readme file included with Leopard's developer preview says G3 support will be dropped from Leopard. 12:21 < tr1> how to create a .cache file ? 12:21 < rxr> they are created by the build system 12:21 < rxr> placed in $root/var/adm/cache/ 12:28 < tr1> is it also created if there is allready a cache file in packages/... ? 12:28 < sepp_> yup 12:29 < tr1> hm my pidgin build is now working but i have to install intltool manualy 12:30 < tr1> so this dependency wasn't found ? 12:33 < sepp_> manualy? 12:33 < tr1> yes i did emerge-pkg... 12:33 < sepp_> i don't have intltool installed, but pidgin 12:34 < tr1> hm maybe it is needed by the new silc plugin ? 12:34 < tr1> i post the patches to the mailinglist maybe you can have a look 12:36 < sepp_> maybe it is some optional i18n feature 12:36 < tr1> yes it is used to something with the *.po files 12:51 -!- tri [n=Richter@pd95b2df8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 12:51 -!- tr1 [n=Richter@pd95b2df8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:55 -!- tri [n=Richter@pd95b2df8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:01 -!- tr1 [n=Richter@pd95b2df8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 13:16 < rxr> re 13:22 < bfg> tr1: i think the pidgin package is in the gnome2 folder because there was a time where pidgin was called gaim and it still depends on plenty of gnome2 libraries 13:23 < bfg> especially gconf 13:25 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 13:25 -!- CIA-9 [i=cia@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 13:27 < tr1> hm 13:27 < tr1> ah ok i think then it fits there ? 13:40 < tr1> i can't build ffmpeg 13:40 < tr1> can somebody build ffmpeg 13:41 < rxr> I think so 13:41 < rxr> the reference building box is right now rebuilding everything, at 5-gcc right now 13:42 < rxr> in some hours I can tell you if T2 SVN:HEAD ffmpeg still builds on x86 :-) 13:42 < tr1> hm 13:42 < tr1> thx 13:42 < tr1> also efreet is in the wrong order 13:43 < tr1> it should be build after ecore 13:43 -!- pdinoto [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 13:47 < sepp_> 137.400 ecore < 149.150 efreet :) 13:48 < tr1> is build-target also using this ? 13:48 < sepp_> yes 13:57 < rxr> tr1: note, this static Priority tag is beeing replaced in the near future with dynamic dep graph parsing using the DEP tags in the .cache files 13:58 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/releases/ 13:58 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/developer/soc.html 14:07 -!- tr1 [n=Richter@pd95b2df8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:07 -!- tri [n=Richter@pd95b2df8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 14:12 -!- tr1 [n=Richter@pd95b2df8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 14:12 -!- tri [n=Richter@pd95b2df8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:13 < tr1> rxr: how is your build ? 14:13 < rxr> == 14:07:39 =[5]=> Building java/jikes [1.22 7.0-trunk]. 14:20 -!- tr1 [n=Richter@pd95b2df8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:22 -!- tr2 [n=Richter@pd95b2df8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 14:22 < tr2> i tried building ffmpeg now from the nightly-snapshot 14:22 < tr2> at it works 14:22 < tr2> ? 14:25 < tr2> you said that t2 would download the file again if there is already a file named ffmpeg-cvs.tar ... 14:26 < tr2> that problem is for every package which is downloaded through cvs when i don't do "-d $date" and name the downloaded file ffmepg-$date.tar.gz 14:26 < sepp_> download/mirror/f/ffmpeg-2007-04-25.tar.bz2 14:27 < tr2> a variable like $date would be nice ? 14:27 < sepp_> it is the version (date) from the desc 14:28 < tr2> sepp_: i tried it with the desc file from cvs which uses the svn checkout from 04.25 but i was not able to compile 14:28 < tr2> with the nightly cvs checkout i was able to compile 14:28 < sepp_> what was the error? 14:29 < rxr> maybe nasm related assembly error ? 14:32 < tr2> wait error in yuv2rgb.c 14:32 < tr2> yes asm related error 14:32 < rxr> yeah - that ia an nasm regression 14:32 < rxr> we probably should downdate nasm 14:32 < tr2> expected =" ' ' " ' ' " ';' , 'asm' or '___attribute__' before '*' token 14:33 < tr2> ect. 14:33 < tr2> but with the nightly cvs build ffmpeg compiles fine 14:33 < rxr> maybe they check if nasm actually works, now :-) 14:33 < tr2> i got this message with the 2007-04-25 ffmpeg 14:35 < tr2> hm 14:36 < tr2> ok what about a variable $date in the desc file ? 14:36 < tr2> would this be possible ? 14:37 < tr2> so everytime i compile a package it is the last svn checkout and the download script don't complain about the already downloaded file 14:37 < tr2> because the new file is named after "package"-$date.tar.gz 14:38 < tr2> or something like $date$time 14:38 < rxr> well - we want known to build packages 14:38 < rxr> keeping 3000 packages to build on all platforms is hard enough 14:38 < rxr> random dates make it even harder 14:38 < tr2> yes sure 14:38 < rxr> but updating T2 packages is already easy enough 14:38 < tr2> i only mean for personal use 14:39 < rxr> in fact the easiest compared with all other dists 14:39 < rxr> I rather suggest you help keep watching out for real update and test and commit those 14:39 < rxr> we have a t2-updates mailing list where possible updates scroll allong 14:39 < rxr> along 14:39 < rxr> this is where most dayly updates come from 14:39 < rxr> plug http://freshmeat.net et al. 14:39 < tr2> yes sure 14:40 < rxr> any help wit those updates is very much welcome 14:44 < sepp_> e.g. e17 does not work well with random/daily checkouts 14:47 < rxr> sepp_: do you run a AIGLX desktop or classic X setup ? 14:47 < sepp_> 'classic X' 14:48 < rxr> do you have a second to test if exact-image/edisplay works with medium sized images for you? 14:48 < sepp_> yes 14:48 < rxr> sine some weeks I only get a white window from Evas with sub 1024 sized images in edisplay 14:48 < sepp_> from svn? 14:48 < rxr> yes, that would be perfect 14:48 < tr2> yes, but maybe you do some coding for the package bloblo and you always want to have the last cvs checkout it would be nice if you can overlay (through /target/$id/packages/) a package desc file which will always update checkout your the last source without deleting a package in download/... or changing the desc file 14:48 < rxr> https://svn.exactcode.de/exact-image/trunk 14:49 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/exact-image/testsuite/tif/4.2.04.tif 14:49 < rxr> ^- my favourite test-image 14:50 < rxr> you do not need to install exact-image 14:50 < tr2> but i don't know how much work is need to have a variable $date or something like this in t2 - where to look ? 14:50 < rxr> ./objdir/edisplay/edisplay 4.2.04.tif is enough 14:50 < rxr> tr2: various places would need an update, scripts/Download and scripts/function.in and some more 14:51 < rxr> maybe start reading the sources for the Download and Build-Pkg case 14:51 < sepp_> that looks fine 14:52 < rxr> sepp_: ok - thanks 14:52 < sepp_> np 14:52 < rxr> I already imagined it would be some strange evas<->libx11 interaction 14:52 < rxr> strange is, that I have no other X program to have such drawing glitches 14:52 < rxr> I run a Beryl since the CeBIT 14:52 < rxr> (where I first tried it to have a pretty T2 SDE to show) 14:53 < rxr> guess I'll finally convert my C++ EvasHelper into a ExactCanvas based on Agg ... 14:54 < sepp_> you mean a stable base that does not change every night? :p 14:54 < rxr> yes, exactly 14:54 < rxr> and one where I have more control as well 14:54 < rxr> e.g. currently huge images are very inefficient with Evas 15:02 < tr2> rxr: thx i will look at the download and the functions.in files to get a idea what is needed :-) 15:03 < tr2> rxr: i would like to give a short talk about t2 at our lokal lug group next month i would prepare a few slides - can i post the slides to the t2 mailinglist to get same feedback ? 15:03 < rxr> sure 15:03 < rxr> I can post a link to my last slides as well 15:04 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/pr/trunk/t2-talk/presentation.pdf 15:04 < tr2> ah thx 15:05 < rxr> near the pdf are the original LaTeX sources 15:05 < rxr> if you want to reuse it 15:06 < tr2> txh thats nice 15:08 < tr2> what is the difference betwenn hook_add and var_append / var_remove ? 15:08 < rxr> var_* are helper functions to work with variables in bash 15:08 < rxr> e.g. mostly helping with the delimiter like : or ' ' 15:08 < rxr> if you would code manually like 15:08 < rxr> makeopt="$makeopt foo bar" 15:09 < rxr> or 15:09 < rxr> some_path="$some_path:foo:bar" 15:09 < rxr> you would get leading seperators if the variable was empty 15:09 < rxr> the hook_* functions are for a totally different purpose 15:09 < rxr> hooks in T2 (and in general programming) are points where additional code can be executed 15:10 < rxr> so with hook_add hook-name priority "code to run" you add code to those hooks 15:10 < rxr> hooks are like prepatch, preconf, premake, postmake, ... 15:10 < tr2> is there a package which uses var_* ? 15:10 < rxr> to run the stuff in a hook the function hook_eval, ... 15:10 < rxr> tr2: most packages that have a .conf file have var_* stuff inside 15:11 < rxr> tr2: if code alters variables those var_* functions should be used to not insert stray seperators accidently 15:11 < tr2> ok i found http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/network/bluez-utils/bluez-utils.conf 15:12 < tr2> the var_append there is for ? 15:12 < tr2> changing the "confopt" or adding confopt ? 15:12 < rxr> yep 15:12 < rxr> and the hooks are used to rename the installed example config and run this substituion on some files 15:13 < tr2> what is the confopt ? (sorry maybe a stupid question) 15:13 < tr2> ah ok the hooks thing is clear 15:13 < rxr> confopt is a T2 variable holding the options passed to the configure scripts 15:13 < tr2> ah ok 15:13 < rxr> confopt is filled automatically with some values like --prefix and cpu architecture arguments 15:13 < rxr> but some packages of course need to insert some more stuff 15:14 < rxr> often even conditionally on config options or other installed packages 15:14 < rxr> you can find more about this topic in the big handbook 15:14 < tr2> that can't be done with hook_add - hook_add is to run something like "mv" , right ? 15:15 < tr2> ah ok there is also CC_WRAPPER_INSERT 15:15 < rxr> yes, stuff like mv or sed can be run in this hooks 15:16 < tr2> what is "makeopt" ? 15:16 < rxr> like confopt the options passed to make 15:16 < rxr> and makeinstopt the options passed to make at install time 15:16 < tr2> ah ok sorry found it in the handbook :-) 15:16 < rxr> yeah - the handbook is great, isn't it :_) 15:16 < tr2> so i can change every Configuration parameters with var_append or var_remove 15:16 < rxr> but we happily also educate here in the channel 15:16 < rxr> it also filles our homepage with info users and google can find :-) 15:17 < rxr> http://www.google.com/custom?cx=010888532094808064914%3Aq0bx6ixm8lk&cof=GFNT%3A%23666666%3BLH%3A100%3BCX%3AT2%2520SDE%2520Project%3BDIV%3A%23cccccc%3BFORID%3A0%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Et2-project%2Eorg%2F%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Et2-project%2Eorg%2Ft2-logo-medium%2Epng%3BLP%3A1%3BAH%3Aleft&q=makeopt&hl=en&client=pub-2860176634161485&channel=3664180173 15:17 < rxr> :-) 15:17 < tr2> yes of course - i know quit everythink this talk is just for google 15:18 < tr2> but thx ;-) 15:18 < rxr> you'r welcome :-)) 15:23 -!- tr2 [n=Richter@pd95b2df8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:55 -!- bfg [n=bfg@203-206-57-245.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #t2 ["Konversation terminated!"] 15:55 -!- bfg [n=bfg@203-206-57-245.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #t2 16:41 -!- cbrake_away is now known as cbrake 16:49 [Users #t2] 16:49 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 16:49 [ bfg ] [ emte] [ pdinoto ] [ sepp_] 16:49 [ cbrake ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX] 16:49 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 17:36 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 17:37 < misl> hi folks 18:14 -!- tri [n=tri@p57ADC621.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 18:18 < tri> moin 18:18 < sepp_> moin tri :) 18:27 < tri> pingpong rxr 18:27 < tri> rxr: how is your build going ? 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20:03 < kic> I've downloaded the 7.0-rc iso, burned a dvd, booted into, everything starts up, kde, etc 20:03 < kic> but how to i start the install? 20:03 < kic> opening a terminal, and typing stone brings up the stone script, but it doesn't act as if its going to install 20:07 -!- Ragnarin [n=loki@D8FA4DE6.ptr.dia.nextlink.net] has joined #t2 20:09 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E12899.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:09 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 20:09 -!- keinek_ [n=chatzill@201.250.30.171] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007031001]"] 20:11 < sepp_> hi kic 20:12 < kic> hi 20:13 < sepp_> but i can not answer the livecd question, never used it :( 20:13 < kic> ah 20:14 < kic> so if you wanted to install the prebuilt 7.0 desktop, how would you do it? 20:14 < sepp_> no clue, always use the un-live version 20:15 < kic> where can i get that? 20:15 < kic> is it available as an iso to burn to CD/DVD? 20:16 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:16 < sepp_> for 7.0-rc the is only the livecd so far 20:16 < kic> ah 20:17 < sepp_> i think you should use stone to install even the livecd 20:19 < kic> i think its: stone install 20:19 < kic> instead of just: stone 20:19 < kic> ? 20:19 < sepp_> just 'stone' 20:20 -!- CIA-9 [i=cia@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 20:20 -!- CIA-8 [i=cia@208.69.182.149] has joined #gsmp 20:32 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:55 < kic> just stone doesn't seem to work 20:57 < sepp_> if you send a mail to the list i am sure you will get an qualified answer 23:10 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]"] 23:13 -!- bfg [n=bfg@203-206-57-245.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:56 -!- bfg [n=bfg@203-206-57-245.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Sat Jun 16 00:00:18 2007