--- Log opened Tue Jun 05 00:00:05 2007
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01:57 < rxr> hi all
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05:09 < Demian> h
05:09 < Demian> hiç
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09:40 < jalsot> hi
09:44 < tri> re
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12:25 < andr01d> Hi all
12:29 < sepp_> hi andr01d 
12:30 < andr01d> How are you, sepp_?
12:30 < sepp_> fine, and you?
12:31 < andr01d> fine too :) though 7.0rc1 still fails to build :/
12:33 < sepp_> where, why?
12:34 < andr01d> gcc fails to compile now... still need to check why...
12:38 < andr01d> hmmm... looks like the wrapper fails to patch some of the files for gcc 4.2 package :/
12:43 < sepp_> ?
12:45 < andr01d> patching file configure
12:45 < andr01d> Hunk #1 FAILED at 1133.
12:45 < andr01d> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file configure.rej
12:45 < andr01d> there are such errors for about 10 files
12:46 < sepp_> gxx_include.patch.cross0 ?
12:47 < sepp_> or no-libstdc++.patch.cross0 ?
12:49 < andr01d> looks like both of them are being applied successfully
12:52 < sepp_> src.gcc*/ERROR-LOG has the info which patch failed to apply 
12:57 < tri> can i use the new 7.0 rc to build my target ?
12:57 < andr01d> what's ur target?
12:57 < tri> wups i mean my config
12:58 < tri> my target is x86
12:58 < andr01d> i wouldn't know... only tried compiling embedded targets so far
12:58 < sepp_> you can
12:58 < tri> thx
12:58 < tri> i try it
12:59 < sepp_> do you mean the iso?
12:59 < tri> yes
13:00 < sepp_> desktop should have everything to build t2
13:06 < tri> ok i try it
13:07 < tri> little problem with the 7.0 live cd is that my xserver isn't starting
13:07 < tri> i don't need it to build t2
13:08 < sepp_> ati?
13:11 < tri> yes
13:11 < tri> x1400
13:12 < tri> will t2 be able to build a system for openmoko ?
13:13 < sepp_> you could import specific patches for openmoko from them
13:18 < sepp_> do you have such a phone?
13:19 < tri> no unfortunately not :-)
13:19 < tri> but openmoko runs in qemu 
13:34 < tri> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU
13:39 < tri> hm damm
13:39 < tri> ncurses-devel is missing
13:39 < tri> in the 7.0 rc live cd
13:40 < pdinoto_>  yes... i ran into the same problem.
13:40 < tri> can i install the ncurses package through mine ?
13:41 < pdinoto_> so far, the only .iso that builds stuff, as I could find, is t2-minimal-desktop-live-6.0.3-pentium-mmx_cd1.iso
13:41 < pdinoto_> and that still fails to build 6.0.3.
13:41 < tri> but if only ncurses is missing that shouldn't be a big problem
13:44 < sepp_> uhm, i forgot that
13:45 < tri> hm i thought i'm luky because i have the configfiles here
13:45 < tri> but even the build-target script isn't working
13:46 < tri> gnu/stubs.h
13:46 < tri> and sys/cdefs.h
13:46 < tri> are missing
13:46 < sepp_> guess the livecd is not intended to build things with
13:47 < tri> one question about building the target - if i use the t2-minimal....cd1.iso what gcc version would be used to build the target 
13:47 < tri> if i got it right t2 builds the toolchain
13:47 < tri> and then the new gcc 4.2 and new glibc are used if i build the new target ?
13:47 < sepp_> the host gcc does not matter, it bootstraps a new compiler in the early stages
13:48 < sepp_> as long as it is working and all header files are there :p
13:48 < tri> so  t2-minimal-desktop-live-6.0.3-pentium-mmx_cd1.iso is a good choose ?
13:48 < tri> :-)
13:49 < sepp_> well, that is even smaller, i guess it has no glibc/ncurses ... headers either
13:50 < sepp_> i know that 6.0.1/minimal-*/ has everything you need to build t2, but it is no livecd, you have to install it
13:50 < sepp_> or chroot into it
13:51 < pdinoto_> I am running it on a virtual machine, and yes, I had to install it.
13:52 < pdinoto_> Sorry, I forgot to mention that...
13:52 < pdinoto_> Right now I am firing it up, tri.
13:52 < pdinoto_> What target/arch are your aiming to?
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14:02 < pdinoto_> trying to build t2-7.0 from svn, target generic, package minimal
14:03 < pdinoto_> I get an error when configuring glibc, at stage 0:
14:03 < pdinoto_> configure: error: add-on directory "linuxthreads" does not exist
14:03 < pdinoto_> when Build-Target tries to configure as:
14:04 < pdinoto_> ../configure --prefix=/root/t2-7.0-svn/build/default-7.0-trunk-generic-x86-
14:04 < pdinoto_> i486/usr --with-headers=/root/t2-7.0-svn/build/default-7.0-trunk-generic-x86-i486/usr/include --with-libpam --with-p
14:04 < pdinoto_> am --enable-libpam --enable-pam --enable-add-ons=linuxthreads --without-__thread --disable-sanity-checks --disable-p
14:04 < pdinoto_> rofile --with-gnu-binutils --build=i686-nocross-linux-gnu --host=i486-t2-linux-gnu --without-gd
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14:04 < pdinoto_> who adds that add-on to glibc?
14:06 < sepp> normally glibc would include it, but it is commented out, dont know why
14:07 < tri> generic minmal + x
14:10 < sepp> why not ntpl?
14:10 < sepp> nptl
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14:31 < pdinoto_> damn... i am frustrated.
14:33 < tri> :-)
14:47 < sepp> pdinoto_: why do you want linuxthreads and not nptl?
14:47 < tri> hm should i use a own partiton for /home or not ?
14:47 < sepp> sure :)
14:49 < tri> and should i use a own partition for /usr 
14:50 < pdinoto_> sepp: I did not have preferences: I just ./script/Config'ed and tried to build.
14:51 < sepp> for x86?
14:51 < rxr> hi from
14:51 < rxr> .tw
14:52 < sepp> good morning .tw :)
14:52 < rxr> night
14:52 < sepp> ok, good night .tw :)
14:52 < sepp> pdinoto_: grep SDECFG_PKG_GLIBC_TLS config/.../config
14:54 < pdinoto_> root@t2-build:~/t2-7.0-svn# grep SDECFG_PKG_GLIBC_TLS config/default/config
14:54 < pdinoto_> export SDECFG_PKG_GLIBC_TLS='0'
14:55 < sepp> well, that should be 1 unless you really want linuxthreads but for glibc 2.6 there seems to be no such package 
14:56 < pdinoto_> if I delete config/default/config, should
14:56 < pdinoto_> a ./script/Config create a default one?
14:56 < sepp> yes
14:56 < pdinoto_> (I want to start from scratch)
14:56 < pdinoto_> ok, will try that.
15:00 < pdinoto_> thanks!
15:00 < tri> ok my build is also starting right now...
15:05 < rxr> I'll be back later, susan has to use the ethernet
15:05 < rxr> the former hotel had wifi, this "just" has rj45 outlets
15:06 < rxr> (at least in booth internet is for free :-)
15:06 < rxr> cu the
15:06 < rxr> n
15:19 < tri> is the t2 software mirror down ?
15:21 < sepp> looks so :/
15:22 < tri> hm so this "Download -all" might be a good test if the urls in the *desc files are still up-to-date
15:22 < tri> :-)
15:22 < sepp> hehe
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15:32 < pdinoto_> well, my build failed now because of gcc patche rejection:
15:32 < pdinoto_> gcc/tree-ssa-structalias.c.rej
15:34 < pdinoto_> un weird thing: is it possible that the same file is patched twice?
15:35 < pdinoto_> (ops! where is the pastebuffer url?)
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15:36 < sepp_> http://www.rafb.net/paste/ ?
15:36 < eyowin> hi, what must I do to compile all the t2-stuff with distcc?
15:36 < pdinoto_> that one... used to be in the channel motd...
15:36 < eyowin> I tried the masquerading thing
15:37 < eyowin> but there theme to be errors cause of writing outside the default trunk-dir
15:37 < eyowin> -theme +seem
15:38 < pdinoto_> here is the xtrace of the failure: http://rafb.net/p/DjeOSu77.html
15:38 < sepp_> ooh
15:42 < sepp_> that is 0-gcc ?
15:42 < sepp_> yes
15:43 < sepp_> will try it
15:43 < pdinoto_> yes, 0-gcc
15:44 < eyowin> any suggestions on how to use the distcc thingy with t2?
15:44 < sepp_> i dont know that 
15:44 < sepp_> :/
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15:45 < eyowin> whois /eyowin
15:46 < pdinoto_> be right back
15:46 < sepp_>  /whois eyowin 
15:46 < sepp_> :)
15:51 < eyowin> sepp_: If I understood right, T2 is using it's own compiler in a chrooted env? where is this compiler?
15:53 < sepp_> it builds a own toolchain in a sandbox 
15:53 < sepp_> in build/.../
15:55 < tri> hm the url for the flex package seems to be wrong
15:57 < sepp_> http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/flex/
15:57 < sepp_> with 'f', right?
15:57 < tri> Not Found
15:57 < tri> http://mir1.ovh.net/sourceforge/flex/
15:58 < tri> http://dfn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/flex/
15:58 < tri> Forbidden
15:58 < tri> ?
15:58 < tri> hm
15:59 < tri> anybody here know what is up with the t2 package mirror :-)
15:59 < rxr> is there some issue ?
16:01 < tri> jop
16:01 < tri> seems to be down
16:01 < rxr> hm-  maybe someone stole the network cable in the uni again .-)
16:02 < CIA-9> sebastian * r24355 /trunk/package/base/flex/flex.desc: * fixed flex download location
16:02 < rxr> if nexus.tfh-berlin.de does not work either then the router before my box is down
16:02 < tri> :-)
16:02 < rxr> nexus is a FreeBSD router that gets reinstalled more often than funny
16:02 < rxr> that is the #1 downtime problem of our box there
16:03 < rxr> ssh nexus.tfh-berlin.de does appear to timeout from .tw right now 
16:03 < rxr> so possible the reason
16:03 < tri> yes nexus is also down
16:03 < rxr> the #2 problem is that either someone mangles the network cables or uses one (like the gsmp cable9 permanently until I go and plug a new one
16:03 < rxr> ok - have to work a bit here
16:04 < rxr> cu then
16:04 < tri> cu
16:06 < sepp_> == 06/05/07 16:08:55 =[0]=> Finished building package gcc.
16:07 < sepp_> pdinoto_: ^- i can not reproduce that error
16:39 < tri> hm - New Revision: 24355 * fixed flex download location
16:39 < tri> thx sebastian
16:39 < sepp_> ;)
16:40 < tri> sepp_ == sebastian ?
16:40 < sepp_> yes
16:42 < eyowin> hi, again anyone exp. with distcc and t2?
16:42 < tri> nice to meet you :-)
16:46 < sepp_> you can send a mail to the list if you want, i know nothing about distcc but i think someone (rxr) will answer :)
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16:54 < eyowin> sepp_: ok, will do so, thx!
16:54 < eyowin> sepp_: can you post me the adress?
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16:58 < eyowin> sepp_: First of all I have to be member of the list - found it, where else, on the website ;-)
16:58 < sepp_> t2@t2-project.org - but dont know if you need to subscribe
16:58 < sepp_> spam got massive ...
16:59 < sepp_> ok :)
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17:02 < eyowin> ok, I send one mail, let's wait and see what happens
17:18 < eyowin> mail is outta there... - so have to leave - c ya 
17:19 < sepp_> cu
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19:02 < misl> hi folks
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19:42 < pdinoto_> sepp_: thanks for testing, what is your build setup?
20:13 < sepp_> minimal+xorg + some other stuff
20:14 < sepp_> which version do you use?
20:19 < pdinoto_> i am on the installed t2-minimal-desktop-live-6.0.3-pentium-mmx_cd1.iso 
20:19 < pdinoto_> I think I found the problem, and it was my fault.
20:19 < sepp_> i mean the t2 version you try to build
20:19 < pdinoto_> I have a 6.0.3+ build dir, and a 7.0-svn
20:20 < pdinoto_> and may have pasted a .desc file in the wrong dir... ops.
20:20 < pdinoto_> now I am trying 7.0-svn.
20:20 < pdinoto_> I refreshed svn, and gcc.desc and retrying.
20:21 < sepp_> with 7.0-rc or trunk 0-gcc should work fine
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21:24 < tri> hi
21:24 < tri> can not build pdksh 
21:26 < tri> hm the download url for pdksh seems to be wrong
21:29 < Ragnarin> lemme check
21:29 < tri> hm not sure maybe it is the right url but the "download" server is not available
21:30 < Ragnarin> yea I see it
21:31 < sepp_> get it from an mirror and thow it into the right download dir
21:34 < sepp_> pdksh mirror ...
21:34 < CIA-9> ragnar * r24356 /trunk/package/shells/pdksh/pdksh.desc: * fix download location
21:34 < Ragnarin> should be fixed
21:34 < sepp_> :)
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21:37 < tri> tthx :-)
21:37 < tri> hi Stelz
21:37 < Stelz> heya
21:37 < Stelz> i "love" my isp
21:37 < tri> what is your isp ?
21:38 < CIA-9> ragnar * r24357 /trunk/package/editors/ed/ed.conf: * remove --without-libpam, configure doesn't like it
21:38 < Ragnarin> oh duh
21:39 < Ragnarin> forget the package name in the commit msg >.<
21:39  * Ragnarin shame
21:39 < Stelz> migtel.ru tri :)
21:57 < tri> i think a video from the t2 installation or a t2 build would be nice
22:00 < sepp_> want to make a screencast?
22:03 < tri> yes maybe
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22:11 < tri> hm  building the linux kernel nerally take half an hour
22:13 < sepp_> that is normal ...
22:13 < sepp_> no need to worry :)
22:13 < tri> the kernel is actually building all modules ?
22:14 < sepp_> the default kernel will build everything not blacklisted
22:15 < tri> how to blacklist ?
22:15 < tri> and how is the initrd build ?
22:16 < sepp_> if you want you can also use a custom kernel conf - the .config files you get with make config
22:17 < sepp_> or just single rules from .config
22:17 < tri> i'm just reading about linux24.conf
22:18 < tri> where do i have to place the .config files from make config ?
22:18 < tri> i think i understand now the lx_3rd_party_modules variable :-)
22:18 < sepp_> you can enable custom kernel conf in Config - under linux options
22:20 < sepp_> and you can also enable kernel conf options inside 3rd party kernel mods
22:23 < tri> ah there is the mkinitrd
22:30 < tri> what does add_flist ?
22:33 < tri> in the linux24.conf ?
22:33 < sepp_> add files to the auto-generated flist 
22:34 < sepp_> there is some documentation @ http://www.t2-project.org/handbook/html/t2-book.html ;)
22:34 < tri> ok sorry ;-)
22:34 < sepp_> np
22:40 < sepp_> if you are lucky you just need to append some KDIR (or so) makeopt, if not you need to patch away uname calls or other stuff 
22:43 < tri> i like mkinitcpio
22:43 < tri> is this a option for t2 ?
22:43 < tri> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Configuring_mkinitcpio
22:48 < sepp_> dont know
22:53 < sepp_> but patches are welcome ;)
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22:59 < tri_> re
23:00 < tri_> http://ccache.samba.org/ftp/ccache/
23:00 < tri_> isn't there anymore
23:01 < tri_> so the ccache.desc file should be updated to use http://samba.org/ftp/ccache/
23:04 < tri_> have to go now - gn8 ;-)
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