--- Log opened Sat Jun 02 00:00:02 2007 00:27 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@BADb118.bad.pppool.de] has joined #t2 00:47 -!- sepp [n=sepp@BADb666.bad.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:36 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@kobz-590ca267.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #t2 01:36 -!- Demian [n=demian@201.206.168.86] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:40 -!- Demian [n=demian@201.206.168.86] has joined #t2 01:53 -!- mtr [n=Michael@kobz-590cba15.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:53 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 02:02 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 03:13 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.35.206] has joined #t2 04:25 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:46 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 07:02 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.35.206] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:21 [Users #t2] 08:21 [@ChanServ] [ Demian ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] 08:21 [ babygor ] [ emte ] [ mtr ] [ sepp_ ] [ TobiX ] 08:21 [ CIA-9 ] [ jalsot_] [ Ragnarin] [ shadeheim_] [ valentin] 08:21 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 08:21 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 6.0.3 Released! | trunk heading for 7.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 08:21 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Wed Mar 28 15:39:58 2007] 08:21 < CIA-9> rene * r24344 /trunk/package/editors/zile/zile.desc: * updated zile (2.2.32 -> 2.2.33) 08:21 < rxr> Open System Development Environment (SDE) | 08:21 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 6.0.3 Released! | trunk heading for 7.0 | The T2 08:22 -!- Ragnarin changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 6.0.3 Released! | trunk heading for 7.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | 08:22 < Ragnarin> moin rene :0 08:22 < Ragnarin> =) 08:23 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 SDE | 7.0-rc released! | trunk heading for 8.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org 08:23 < rxr> moin Ragnarin 08:23 < Ragnarin> wie gehts? 08:24 < rxr> oh, puffed out and neaerly "heiser" 08:24 < rxr> from talking all the day at the linux tag 08:24 < Ragnarin> ooh yea how was it? 08:24 < rxr> oh - still going on :-) 08:24 < rxr> have to jump out the office in some minutes 08:24 < rxr> quite fine 08:24 < rxr> we have not been on the linux tag the last years 08:24 < Ragnarin> yea 08:24 < Ragnarin> how's the resonance? 08:24 < rxr> but now that it is in berlin it is just 6 subway stations away :_) 08:25 < rxr> fine 08:25 < Ragnarin> ;D 08:25 < rxr> in general, as on the other fairs, the people are way more open to new "Linux systems" and also many need customized systems for embedded use and custom appliances 08:26 < rxr> in the beginning most just waved the head and asked "what would I need that for?", ... 08:26 < Ragnarin> :) good to hear 08:26 < Ragnarin> lol 08:27 < rxr> and how is it over there? I see you changed the nick :-), is tht intentional ? 08:28 < Ragnarin> yea it is 08:28 < Ragnarin> someone bugged me that the other nick sounded like a scriptkiddie :P 08:28 < rxr> lol 08:30 < CIA-9> rene * r24345 /trunk/package/develop/nwcc/nwcc.desc: * updated nwcc (0.7.2 -> 0.7.3) 08:38 < CIA-9> rene * r24346 /trunk/package/x86/nasm/nasm.desc: * updated nasm (0.99.00 -> 0.99.01) 08:45 < CIA-9> rene * r24347 /trunk/package/security/gnutls/gnutls.desc: * updated gnutls (1.6.2 -> 1.6.3) 09:40 -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Demian 09:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Demian 09:46 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:05 < rxr> re 10:39 < rxr> http://digg.com/linux_unix/T2_SDE_7_0_rc_water_falls_releases 11:04 < LMJ> hello 11:05 < LMJ> http://www.pastebin.ca/530950 <= dvd+rwtools failed on trunk on x86_64 here, how can i fix it please ? 12:01 < sepp_> moin :) 12:26 < rxr> you probably have imperfect scsi system headers 12:26 < rxr> unfortualy that is not easy to fix as they come with glibc 12:26 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 13:21 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@217.237.166.98] has joined #t2 13:43 < LMJ> ok rxr 14:10 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:10 [Users #t2] 14:10 [@ChanServ] [ Demian ] [ mtr ] [ sepp_ ] [ TobiX ] 14:10 [ babygor ] [ jalsot_] [ Ragnarin] [ shadeheim_] [ valentin ] 14:10 [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] [ write_erase] 14:10 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 14:25 -!- Capey [n=mipe@a83-245-238-224.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #t2 14:27 < rxr> hey Capey !!! 14:28 < Capey> hi rxr 14:33 < rxr> http://kushaldas.in/?p=142 14:33 < rxr> ^ - have not seen that though 14:44 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 14:46 < rxr> heh cool 15:01 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:05 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 15:08 -!- write_erase_ [n=olivier@217.237.166.98] has joined #t2 15:09 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@217.237.166.98] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:21 < rxr> ttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=466588481451128430&hl=en 15:26 < CIA-9> rene * r24348 /trunk/package/security/gsasl/gsasl.desc: * updated gsasl (0.2.16 -> 0.2.17) 15:34 < CIA-9> rene * r24349 /trunk/package/network/nginx/nginx.desc: * updated nginx (0.5.20 -> 0.5.22) 16:03 -!- Capey [n=mipe@a83-245-238-224.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 16:24 < CIA-9> rene * r24350 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-screensaver/gnome-screensaver.desc: * updated gnome-screensaver (2.18.1 -> 2.18.2) 16:25 < CIA-9> rene * r24351 /trunk/package/gnome2/metacity/metacity.desc: * updated metacity (2.18.2 -> 2.18.3) 16:35 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.34.227] has joined #t2 17:04 < CIA-9> rene * r24352 /trunk/package/base/popt/popt.desc: * marked popt FPIC-QUIRK, as needed on x86-64 17:24 -!- write_erase_ [n=olivier@217.237.166.98] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:47 -!- shevy [n=shevy@chello080108103172.36.11.univie.teleweb.at] has joined #t2 18:05 -!- pdinoto [n=pdinoto@host145.190-30-188.telecom.net.ar] has joined #t2 18:41 -!- shadeheim_ [n=joe@82-42-81-120.cable.ubr02.live.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 19:00 -!- shadeheim [n=joe@82-42-81-120.cable.ubr02.live.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #t2 19:01 < shadeheim> when I try to make the iso I get errors such as implantisomd5.c:23:18: error: popt.h: No such file or directory. The iso makes anyway, but when I boot in to it it can't find the second stage and prompts me to locate it myself 19:02 < shevy> hey shadeheim ;) 19:03 < sepp_> you need package 'popt' 19:52 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 20:03 < shadeheim> ty 20:13 -!- shadeheim [n=joe@82-42-81-120.cable.ubr02.live.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 20:13 -!- pdinoto [n=pdinoto@host145.190-30-188.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:26 -!- shadeheim [n=joe@82-42-81-120.cable.ubr02.live.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #t2 20:27 < shadeheim> in the handbook it says building t2 in other distros may "contain broken versions of one of the intensively used utilities like sed, awk, tar or bash". How about Debian? 20:29 < shadeheim> sid 20:29 < sepp_> only way to really know is to try it 20:29 < shadeheim> i tried booting the disc but it keeps complaining that it can't find the install tar 20:30 < sepp_> it should work, but some systems have broken bash or something, but there is no list 20:30 < shadeheim> the cd boots and says it is looking on /dev/cdrom so it seems to be the right place to look, but it can't find a stage file or something 20:31 < sepp_> ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg YOURCONFIG 20:31 < sepp_> maybe something failed to build so that the resulting iso has a problem 20:32 < sepp_> has it 2nd_stage.tar, 2nd_stage_small.tar on the cd? 20:33 < shevy> 760M t2-7.0-rc-desktop-i686.iso 20:33 < shevy> 20:33 < shevy> dicke iso :/ 20:33 < shadeheim> 453 builds total, 0 completed fine, 0 with errors. 20:34 < shadeheim> 0 completed fine? 20:34 < sepp_> uhm 20:36 < shadeheim> I read somewhere that t2 can automatically find out a packages dependencies, even ones not specifically built for t2. Is this true? 20:39 < sepp_> there are list which files belong to a package, if you build one it looks what files are read while building it and write a cache file 20:39 < sepp_> if that is what you mean 20:40 < sepp_> also works for new packages ... 20:43 < shadeheim> I'm quite new to Linux so excuse my ignorance, but does it have to be a package designed for t2, or can I get a random tar package of an authors website, and get t2 to figure out what dependencies are needed, or do I need to manually look up and install the dependencies? 20:43 < shadeheim> off* 20:46 < sepp_> you can take a random tarball make a desc and hope it will compile, if you have all the needed deps installed it will generate a list with the detected deps 20:46 < sepp_> but it can not guess deps if you dont have them installed 20:46 < sepp_> that would be black voodoo 20:47 < sepp_> but the 2nd time you already have the dep info 20:47 < rxr> re 20:48 < sepp_> hi rxr :) 20:48 [Users #t2] 20:48 [@ChanServ] [ Demian ] [ keinek] [ mtr ] [ sepp_ ] [ Stelz ] 20:48 [ babygor ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ shadeheim] [ TobiX ] 20:48 [ CIA-9 ] [ jalsot_] [ misl ] [ rxr ] [ shevy ] [ valentin] 20:48 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 20:48 < rxr> just a quick re 20:48 < rxr> we'll be off the office the whole next week 20:54 < sepp_> holidays? 20:57 < shevy> hmm kann man die 760 MB iso einfach auf eine dvd brennen? 20:59 < sepp_> yup 20:59 < shevy> oki 20:59 < rxr> nope 20:59 < rxr> business trip 20:59 < rxr> somehow I have the feeling I'll not have much holidays the next years. 21:09 < sepp_> :/ 21:10 < rxr> but maybe we have enough internet access abroad to do some update testing along the lines 21:10 < rxr> so that trunk is moving along 21:50 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/photos/?p=/Hardware/PS3/ 22:01 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/photos/?p=/Linux%20Tag/2007/ 22:02 < rxr> still copying 22:08 < shevy> hehe http://rene.rebe.name/images/cache/dsc00465_600x800.jpg 22:08 < shevy> spionage? :) 22:09 < Stelz> haha :) 22:15 -!- netist [n=chatzill@p548A4208.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 22:15 -!- netist [n=chatzill@p548A4208.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 22:19 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@p54bd7007.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 22:39 [Users #t2] 22:39 [@ChanServ] [ emte ] [ misl ] [ sepp_ ] [ TobiX ] 22:39 [ babygor ] [ jalsot_] [ mtr ] [ shadeheim] [ valentin ] 22:39 [ CIA-9 ] [ keinek ] [ Ragnarin] [ shevy ] [ write_erase] 22:39 [ Demian ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] 22:39 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] 22:40 < rxr> hi write_erase ! 22:40 < write_erase> rxr hi 22:40 < write_erase> Still online :-) 22:41 < rxr> yeah - packing in the office 22:41 < rxr> and syncing the laptop 22:41 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/photos/?p=/Linux%20Tag/2007/ 22:41 < rxr> ^- still copying, though 22:44 < write_erase> Oh you took a snapshot of the girls offering cigarettes... I wanted to show my friends this one 22:44 < rxr> :-) 22:45 < write_erase> I'll have to gimp myself on some photos (red eyes) :-) 22:47 < rxr> yeah - I just flush them to the site right now 22:47 < write_erase> ok that's fine 22:57 < rxr> you got some hotspot over there? 22:57 < rxr> hotel I guess? 22:59 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:59 < write_erase> rxr, yeah... @hotel... they provide WLAN 23:03 < rxr> nice 23:06 < write_erase> you had time to see openstreetmap guys ? 23:07 < write_erase> I think this is a great project I'll try to contribute... opensource city map database.. . 23:09 < rxr> cool, nice project - I'll add a linnk to the http://www.t2-project.org/startpage 23:11 < write_erase> 1. Someone push GPS raw coordinate to a server 23:11 < write_erase> 2. another one draw lines which seems to be roads 23:11 < write_erase> 3. Another one names the streets, add speed limits, direction, interesting informations 23:12 < write_erase> 4. Another one can correct these informations 23:12 < rxr> yeah - nice 23:12 < rxr> my location in berlin looks quite fine :-) 23:12 < rxr> added the link to our above URL 23:12 < rxr> though the link section needs resorting and pretification 23:12 < write_erase> I have 1 Million GPS raw positions to push ... as soon as my boss is OK 23:13 < rxr> heh 23:13 < rxr> they will have fun editing those ... 23:14 < write_erase> Maybe someone will code some algorythm to detect roads from GPS positions 23:14 < write_erase> It's in their TODO list 23:28 -!- write_erase_ [n=olivier@p54BD7007.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 23:28 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@p54bd7007.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:28 < write_erase_> nice kernel crash ... 23:29 < write_erase_> while inserting SD card in a USB reader... shame on me 23:29 -!- vipernicus [n=vipernic@r74-193-54-70.gldwcmta01.glwttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #t2 23:29 < vipernicus> http://www.t2-project.org/kernels/minix.html the minix link is bad 23:29 < vipernicus> links to http://http//www.minix3.org/ 23:40 -!- bigmatt [n=bigmatt@pool-71-118-108-170.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #t2 23:42 < bigmatt> can anybody tell me the difference between choosing generic system or exact desktop? 23:44 < sepp_> desktop is well, kde based, with generic you can use diff pkgsel options or build all packages 23:44 < sepp_> package templates 23:45 < bigmatt> I see thx 23:55 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.34.227] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:59 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.19.226] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Sun Jun 03 00:00:03 2007