T2 IRC Log: 2007-05-25

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--- Log opened Fri May 25 00:00:55 2007
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08:21 < tri> moin
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08:43 < tri> rxr: ping
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09:10 < rxr> re
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09:20 < tri> hi rxr
09:20 < tri> is think i get it completly wrong yesterday
09:20 < tri> the e17-conf.in in the imlib folder is used be every e17 package right ?
09:21 < tri> it is in the *.desc file ?
09:21 < tri> but why isn't that prefix"fix" not working ?
09:25 < rxr> because when the package is not selected this prefix option does not exist in the Config
09:25 < rxr> and then thi e17-conf.in returns an empty prefix to the packages to re-use this e17-conf.in
09:31 < rxr> lol: Microsoft Too Busy To Name Linux Patents?
09:31 < rxr> http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/05/24/1916203.shtml
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09:39 < CIA-9> susan * r24228 /trunk/package/base/man-pages/man-pages.desc: * updated man-pages (2.48 -> 2.50)
09:43 < tri> rxr: but there if [ $SDECFG_PKG_E17_CORE_PREFIX ] then ... else prefix ="opt/e17" - why does the e17-conf.in then return an empty prefix ?
09:45 < rxr> hm - good question
09:45 < rxr> that indeed looks like it should work
09:45 < rxr> on the gnome equivalent this extra check is not present
09:45 < tri> maybe in e17 it already works ?
09:45 < rxr> looks so
09:46 < rxr> it didn't or you ?
09:46 < tri> hm i'm not really sure
09:46 < tri> maybe for e17 it works
09:46 < tri> i only know for gnome2 it wasn't working
09:47 < tri> one thing i didn't get yet - were is the $prefix_auto option from ?
09:47 < rxr> that is if no prefix was supplied otherwise, that is was determined automatically
09:49 < tri> ah ok
09:49 < tri> where is the "gnome-conf.in" ?
09:49 < rxr> glib I think
09:50 < tri> yes right
09:50 < tri> yes there might be the problem
09:50 < tri> this elseif check isn't in the gnome2 lib
09:52 < tri> hm i try to find out if the e17-conf.in check works - i remove a eclair and remove the SDECFG_PKG_E17... - then i rebuild eclair and it should also install to /opt/e17
09:53 < rxr> well - whe something of e17 is installed this config-in locks on the imlib prefix
09:53 < rxr> so all goes into the same dir
09:53 < rxr> also when the option was changed later on
09:53 < rxr> so you would have to uninstall imlib
09:54 < tri> ah ok
09:54 < tri> right
10:01 < tri> ok for imlib2 it is working
10:01 < tri> it is installed into /opt/e17
10:06 < tri> what does set_confopt ?
10:08 < rxr> http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2007/tc20070523_272039.htm
10:08 < rxr> look in scripts/function.in
10:08 < rxr> functions.in
10:08 < rxr> it sets --prefix and other options, directory names, etc.
10:08 < tri> gnome2-conf.in is patch is finished
10:20 < tri> http://imi.st/gnome2-conf.in
10:20 < tri> same for kde is one the way
10:24 < rxr> prefix should not have a leading slash
10:24 < rxr> because it's concatenated with $root/$prefix and would otherwise have two slashes
10:24 < rxr> which of course works but looks ugly
10:24 < rxr> looks good
10:24 < rxr> thank sof re-indenting :-)
10:25 < rxr> probably set_confopt should be factored after the conditionals
10:25 < rxr> but it's the same in e17
10:26 < rxr> I do this as wlel
10:26 < rxr> ah - damn
10:26 < tri> thx
10:26 < rxr> I got again new linux tag invitations
10:26 < rxr> what should I do with all the many invitations
10:27 < tri> ah damn ?
10:27 < rxr> yeah - I do not find people to send them as fast as I get new ones ...
10:27 < rxr> maybe I should paste our t2 mailing-list addresses into the free invitation forms ...
10:27 < rxr> Hallo René Rebe, T2 SDE - System Development Environment,
10:27 < rxr> Sie haben neue Einladungen zum LinuxTag 2007 durch die
10:27 < rxr> Verlosung erhalten. Die neuen Einladungen stehen Ihnen ab
10:27 < rxr> sofort in Ihrem Account unter der folgenden Adresse zur
10:27 < rxr> Verfügung:
10:27 < rxr> https://eticket.linuxtag.org/
10:27 < rxr> Sie können die neuen Einladungen an Bekannte oder Freunde
10:27 < rxr> weiterversenden.
10:27 < rxr> Ihr
10:27 < rxr> LinuxTag Team
10:27 < tri> :-)
10:28 < rxr> get that every 2 days ...
10:30 < CIA-9> rene * r24229 /trunk/package/gnome2/glib/gnome2-conf.in:
10:30 < CIA-9> Tobias 'tri' Richter :
10:30 < CIA-9> * added prefix safeguard to glib/gnome2-conf.in, so Emerging unselected
10:30 < CIA-9> gnome packages does not install them into "/"
10:30 < tri> have you hacked the eticket voting system with some perl script or are you just a lucky guy
10:30 < rxr> I guess every project gets 1 new ticket per day on average
10:31 < rxr> I guess they do that to remind the people to invite people and not forget about it
10:32 < CIA-9> rene * r24230 /trunk/package/e17/imlib2/e17-conf.in: * factored set_config out of the conditionals in imlib2/e17-conf.in, likewise
10:43 < tri> http://imi.st/kde-conf.in
10:46 < CIA-9> rene * r24231 /trunk/package/kde/kdelibs/kde-conf.in:
10:46 < CIA-9> Tobias 'tri' Richter :
10:46 < CIA-9> * added prefix safeguard to kdelibs/kde-conf.in, so Emerging unselected
10:46 < CIA-9> kde packages does not install them into "/", likewise
10:58 < CIA-9> susan * r24232 /trunk/package/games/mahjong/mahjong.desc: * updated mahjong (1.7 -> 1.8)
11:15 < rxr> 5lol
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11:22 < CIA-9> rene * r24233 /trunk/package/games/wesnoth/wesnoth.desc: * updated wesnoth (1.2.4 -> 1.3.2)
11:26 < Stelz> hmmm
11:26 < rxr> moin moin Stelz
11:26 < Stelz> be careful, rxr.. 1.3.2 is a dev version..
11:26 < Stelz> hi rxr
11:27 < Stelz> as one of the devs of wesnoth, i wanna say.. that 1.2.4 much more stable.. and compatible with primary multiplayer-game-server
11:27 < Stelz> 1.3.2 isn't.. of course, it has its own server.. but i think it's better to leave 1.2.4 @ T2 packages
11:29 < rxr> oh ok
11:29 < rxr> just had it round on my test builder and wonder whether to commit it, now
11:31 < CIA-9> rene * r24234 /trunk/package/games/wesnoth/wesnoth.desc: * reverted r24233, downdated wesnoth to 1.2 stable series
11:34 < tri> is there somewhere more information about the interaction of the diffrent t2 scripts / functions then in the code itself ?
11:34 < rxr> the handbook
11:35 < rxr> but I got not thru documenting all internals, yet
11:40 < CIA-9> rene * r24235 /trunk/package/database/mysql/mysql.desc: * updated mysql (5.0.37 -> 5.0.41)
11:42 < CIA-9> rene * r24236 /trunk/package/games/frozen-bubble/frozen-bubble.conf:
11:42 < CIA-9> * removed -Werror during frozen-bubble build as on 64bit CPUs
11:42 < CIA-9> the code yields some warnings
11:51 < CIA-9> rene * r24237 /trunk/package/develop/iverilog/ (. iverilog.cache iverilog.desc): * added iverilog (0.8.4) - A Verilog simulation and synthesis tool
12:18 < sepp> moin :)
12:22 < rxr> moin sepp
12:22 < sepp> hi rxr
12:23 < CIA-9> rene * r24238 /trunk/package/security/openssl/gcc42.patch:
12:23 < CIA-9> * updated the openssl gcc-4.2 patch with a apparently better version
12:23 < CIA-9> that also works for C++
12:23 < rxr> so - lunch
12:37 < tri> hi sepp
12:39 < sepp> hi tri :)
12:42 < tri> for what are the numbers beforce the download file and the url in the [D] tag in the *desc file ?
12:50 < tri> what is the differenc between the nvidia-legacy and the nvidia package in x11 ?
12:54 < sepp> nvidia-legacy is for older boards, the new driver does not support 12:55 < sepp> the number after [D] is the tar cksum
12:59 < tri> thx
13:02 < tri> does t2 support https download dirs ?
13:04 < sepp> i think so, it is just curl
13:05 < tri> ah ok now it works
13:06 < tri> are the source files cached ?
13:06 < tri> and is the orginal download url only used if there isn't the file found a these mirror-cache server ?
13:06 < sepp> yes
13:07 < tri> puh downloading the ati-driver package allready works...
13:08 < sepp> the rpm only weird driver?
13:08 < sepp> the binary only thingy
13:08 < tri> yes
13:10 < tri> like to use 3d in this x1400 mobil ati chip...
13:14 < rxr> re
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13:20 < rxr> hey Capey
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13:36 < CIA-9> rene * r24239 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * updated imagemagick (6.3.3-10 -> 6.3.4-1)
13:39 < tri> cu
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13:52 < CIA-9> rene * r24240 /trunk/package/base/ed/ (ed.conf ed.desc): * updated ed (0.2 -> 0.5)
13:54 < CIA-9> rene * r24241 /trunk/package/ (6 files in 6 dirs): * movde base/{sed,ed,minised} -> editors/
13:56 < CIA-9> rene * r24242 /trunk/package/ (4 files in 4 dirs): * moved base/{t2-src,t2-debug} -> develop/, likewise
13:59 < CIA-9> rene * r24243 /trunk/package/develop/t2-debug/t2-debug.conf: * renamed var/adm/rock-debug -> sde-debug
13:59 < Capey> hi rxr
14:01 < rxr> how are you Capey ?
14:03 < rxr> Capey: did you noticed we freed ourselves from this frappr flash site: http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ ?
14:03 < rxr> you had two pins on the flash site, I only copied one :-)
14:03 < rxr> I hope your pin is fine :-)
14:08 < CIA-9> rene * r24244 /trunk/package/x11/shared-mime-info/shared-mime-info.desc: * updated shared-mime-info (0.19 -> 0.21)
14:28 < Capey> rxr: quite busy,first free'ish weekend for quite some time.
14:29 < Capey> rxr:yep, i noticed. i think there were post on ml and i checked it out
14:33 < Capey> i also got a mail from LinuxTag. i guess its invitation from you?
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15:29 < rxr> re
15:31 < CIA-9> rene * r24245 /trunk/package/x11/x11vnc/x11vnc.desc: * updated x11vnc (0.8.4 -> 0.9.1)
16:23 < CIA-9> rene * r24246 /trunk/package/develop/libpeak/ (. libpeak.cache libpeak.desc): * added libpeak (0.1.2) - A library for parallel events and asynchronous tasking
16:58 < rxr> Capey: yes, I had so many invitations I just started pasting list addresses for the fun of it ...
16:58 < rxr> but I guess you have no time for a spontanic germany trip, ... ?
17:55 < CIA-8> rene * r427 /trunk/gfx/ (Agg2D.cc Agg2D.hh): * importer original Agg2D sources
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