--- Log opened Fri May 18 00:00:45 2007 00:53 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.27.251] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:31 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@kobz-590ca692.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #t2 01:40 -!- mtr [n=Michael@kobz-590ca101.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:40 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 03:22 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 03:38 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:40 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #t2 04:42 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.38.217] has joined #t2 05:16 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:17 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 05:24 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.38.217] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007031001]"] 05:27 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.27.206] has joined #t2 05:46 -!- keinek_ [n=chatzill@201.250.25.110] has joined #t2 06:03 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.27.206] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:39 -!- keinek_ [n=chatzill@201.250.25.110] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:55 < rxr> moin 08:45 < CIA-9> rene * r24105 /trunk/package/gnome2/totem/totem.desc: * updated totem (2.18.1 -> 2.18.2) 08:46 < CIA-9> rene * r24106 /trunk/package/gnome2/viking/ (. viking.cache viking.desc): * added viking (0.1.3) - A GPS data editor and topo viewer 08:52 < CIA-9> rene * r24107 /trunk/package/themes/murrine/murrine.desc: * updated murrine (0.52 -> 0.53.1) 09:04 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:20 < sepp_> moin :) 09:20 < rxr> moin sepp_ 09:20 < sepp_> hi rxr 09:20 < sepp_> can i install qt and qt4 together? 09:20 < rxr> yes 09:21 < rxr> but I did not yet tested qt4 apps 09:21 < sepp_> it does not clash with QTDIR or so? 09:21 < rxr> and some qt3 apps appear to pick the wrong moc 09:21 < rxr> nope we install them in different dirs 09:21 < rxr> and most (>90%?) qt3 apps still build then 09:21 < sepp_> ok :) 09:21 < rxr> only few crap-a-lke ones pick the wrong "moc" 09:21 < rxr> meta-object-compiler 09:22 < rxr> and I have not tested if qt4 apps find the correct moc, and libs and co 09:22 < sepp_> yeah, i know the language extension thingy 09:22 < rxr> maybe one or another line needs adapting 09:22 < rxr> but qt4 is enabled by default and build for months in the reference tested 09:22 < rxr> adding a real Qt4 app and further fixing is welcome :-) 09:23 < sepp_> ;) 09:25 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 09:26 < rxr> hi emte 09:26 [Users #t2] 09:26 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur] [ idealm] [ Ragnarin] [ sepp_] [ TobiX ] 09:26 [ CIA-9 ] [ emte ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz] [ valentin] 09:26 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal] 09:36 -!- tri [n=richter@pd95b2df8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 09:36 < tri> re 09:37 < tri> moin moin 09:37 < rxr> moin moin tri 09:37 [Users #t2] 09:37 [@ChanServ] [ emte ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz] [ valentin] 09:37 [ CIA-9 ] [ idealm] [ rxr ] [ TobiX] 09:37 [ Dallur ] [ mtr ] [ sepp_ ] [ tri ] 09:37 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 09:37 < sepp_> hi tri 09:39 < CIA-9> rene * r24108 /trunk/package/develop/mono-basic/ (. mono-basic.cache mono-basic.desc): * added mono-basic (1.2.4) - Visual Basic Compiler and Runtime 09:58 < CIA-9> rene * r24109 /trunk/package/develop/mono-xsp/mono-xsp.desc: * updated mono-xsp (1.2.1 -> 1.2.4) 09:59 < CIA-9> rene * r24110 /trunk/package/develop/mono/mono.desc: * updated mono (1.2.3.1 -> 1.2.4) 10:03 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:13 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #t2 10:16 < CIA-9> rene * r24111 /trunk/package/develop/libgdiplus/libgdiplus.desc: * updated libgdiplus (1.2.3 -> 1.2.4) 10:40 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:42 -!- idealm [n=ideal@c58-107-18-60.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #t2 11:11 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:13 < rxr> http://www.playogg.org/ 11:14 < CIA-9> rene * r24112 /trunk/package/emulators/libspectrum/libspectrum.desc: * updated libspectrum (0.3.0 -> 0.3.0.1) 11:14 < CIA-9> rene * r24113 /trunk/package/emulators/spectemu/spectemu.desc: * updated spectemu (0.94 -> 0.99.3) 11:21 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 12:09 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-091-089-002-030.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has joined #t2 12:12 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:46 < tri> cu 12:46 -!- tri [n=richter@pd95b2df8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #t2 [] 12:47 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 12:56 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:01 -!- babygor [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 13:01 < babygor> hi all, 13:02 < CIA-9> sebastian * r24114 /trunk/package/graphic/djv/ (. djv.cache djv.conf djv.desc): * added djv (0.6.1) - Imaging software for movie playback, image processing, monitor calibration 13:02 < sepp_> hi babygor 13:05 < rxr> hi babygor 13:05 < rxr> hi d-marc 13:05 [Users #t2] 13:05 [@ChanServ] [ d-marc] [ mtr ] [ sepp_] [ valentin] 13:05 [ babygor ] [ Dallur] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz] 13:05 [ CIA-9 ] [ idealm] [ rxr ] [ TobiX] 13:05 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 13:07 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.29.82.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 13:09 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 13:09 [Users #t2] 13:09 [@ChanServ] [ d-marc] [ idealm ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] 13:09 [ babygor ] [ Dallur] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ TobiX ] 13:09 [ CIA-9 ] [ emte ] [ Ragnarin] [ sepp_] [ valentin] 13:09 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 13:10 < rxr> sepp: there is a new blender, 2.44 or so, but it did not yet bult on the reference builder, maybe you want to give it a try 13:11 < sepp> ok 13:12 < sepp> they say it is 64bit safe now :p 13:15 < rxr> sepp: did we know about a 64bit problem with the beast before? 13:18 < sepp> yup, it even printed a warning at startup 13:27 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:27 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 13:28 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p85.212.68.253.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:34 < sepp> ohh well, i dont have py2.5 installed 13:43 < sepp> http://213.54.29.82/foo.jpg :) 13:47 < rxr> your desk ? 13:47 < sepp> yup 13:47 < rxr> self done background picture ? 13:47 < sepp> no, that is somewhere downloaded 13:48 < rxr> guess we should start some t2 screenshot section ;-) 13:54 < Stelz> you told me that a year ago, rxr :P 13:54 < sepp> ;) 13:55 * Stelz :: Desktop [ http://slz.sytes.net/desktop.png ] 13:55 < Stelz> :P 13:56 < rxr> Stelz: the homepage is in a www-t2 SVN, many people could help edit it :-) 13:56 < rxr> but soon it will be online editable ... 13:56 < Stelz> great! :) 13:58 < rxr> is your desk t2 or openbsd ? 13:58 < rxr> ah 13:58 < rxr> there is is 13:58 < rxr> bsd ... 14:08 < Stelz> :> 14:19 < CIA-9> rene * r24115 /trunk/package/python/pyrexc/pyrexc.desc: * updated pyrexc (0.9.5 -> 0.9.5.1a) 15:13 < CIA-9> rene * r24116 /trunk/package/multimedia/tvtime/linux-header.patch: * fixed tvtime for latest linux-header 15:43 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 15:59 < rxr> LinuxTag nimmt Stellung zur Schirmherrschaft Sch?ubles 16:00 < rxr> http://www.linuxtag.org/2007/de/home/news/newsitem/article/stellungnahme-zur-schirmherrschaft.html 16:18 < sepp> they are young and need the money 16:29 * rxr doubts there is money involved ... 16:29 * rxr hates the damn crappy x86 SIMD exteions 16:30 * rxr wishes more of his customers would choose something saner than i386 16:30 < sepp> :) 16:30 < rxr> shuffling the damn limited instructions until they match the algorithm and still not beeing as fast as stright away Altivec etc. is really no fun 16:43 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.31.110] has joined #t2 16:44 < rxr> hi keinek 16:44 < keinek> hi rxr 16:44 < keinek> :) 16:45 < CIA-9> rene * r24117 /trunk/package/mail/sylpheed/sylpheed.desc: * updated sylpheed (2.4.1 -> 2.4.2) 16:48 < CIA-9> rene * r24118 /trunk/package/mips/arcboot/arcboot.desc: * updated arcboot (0.3.8.7 -> 0.3.8.8) 16:48 < rxr> puh, below 250 mails in my t2-update foler 16:48 < rxr> folder 16:50 < CIA-9> rene * r24119 /trunk/package/develop/mono-doc/mono-doc.desc: * updated mono-doc (1.2.3 -> 1.2.4) 16:54 < CIA-9> rene * r24120 /trunk/package/develop/mod_mono/mod_mono.desc: * updated mod_mono (1.2.1 -> 1.2.4) 16:55 < babygor> quick question folks, 16:55 < babygor> any advice for a HD install of a t-resc 0.5? 16:56 < babygor> just a copy? 16:58 < rxr> rsync -ax ... 16:59 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/handbook/html/t2.install.exceptional.html#t2.install.1:1.rsync 16:59 < rxr> however if you want to run it as a router and not modify too much you could copy the file content of the CD, that is the kernel, initrd, loader and the live.squash to the HD 16:59 < rxr> then you can run the compressed form from HD as you do from CD 17:00 < rxr> you can add a live-rw.ext2 (or whatever you prefer) as rw overlay on top 17:00 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/targets/live/overlays.html 17:01 < babygor> oh, last one seems very tempting. I guess I can even turn the hdd off if I don't need a rw filesystem. 17:01 < babygor> thanks! 17:14 < rxr> you're welcome 17:15 < rxr> babygor: are you on this map already? http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ 17:29 < babygor> yep, i am the one in Cordoba, Argentina: pdinoto 17:33 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:36 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 17:56 < rxr> cool 18:06 -!- keinek_ [n=chatzill@201.250.10.251] has joined #t2 18:09 [Users #t2] 18:09 [@ChanServ] [ d-marc] [ idealm ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ] 18:09 [ babygor ] [ Dallur] [ keinek ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin] 18:09 [ CIA-9 ] [ emte ] [ keinek_] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz] 18:09 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 18:16 < babygor> rxr, one quick question... 18:16 < babygor> I see the /init script tries to find the live.squash file in all block devices 18:16 < babygor> but skips non removable ones. Is that the idea? 18:17 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 18:17 < misl> hi folks 18:18 < rxr> babygor: oh, the last t-resc was probably built with that "feature" 18:18 < rxr> the one-liner that skips "un-removeable" devices was removed some weeks ago, because people demanded running the live boot code on fixed disks 18:18 < rxr> apparently the last t-resc has the one-liner that skips the removable == 0 devices 18:19 < rxr> you can repack the initrd with the one line from the /init removed 18:19 < rxr> do you know how to unpack and repack the initramfs-based initrd? 18:20 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.31.110] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:21 -!- keinek [n=chatzill@201.250.41.21] has joined #t2 18:26 < babygor> yep... in fact I was just doing that. :) 18:32 -!- keinek_ [n=chatzill@201.250.10.251] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:49 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:04 < babygor> another quick question: after init has found the live.squash fs and mounted it, 19:05 < babygor> control goes to init2. It checks for live-*.* filesystems. 19:05 < babygor> But then there is a recursive copy of all kernel modules. Why is that? 19:06 < babygor> (I happen to put a small filesystem, and it got filled by modules because of the overlay) 19:06 < rxr> this is a space optimization we added later on 19:07 < rxr> without that the kernel modules would be in the initrd and the compressed filesystem 19:07 < rxr> increasing especially the size of the tiny t-resc notiable 19:07 < rxr> noticable 19:07 < rxr> thus we traded some RAM for .iso size 19:07 < rxr> this code to remove the modules is not yet in t2/trunk and only used for the t-resc and discussed 19:08 < rxr> when building own .iso images this might become a CONFIG option to optimize the .iso for size or not 19:08 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:08 < rxr> this recusive copy in the t-resc you have should already check if the files exist and only increase ram size if the rootfs does not have the kernel modules in question 19:17 < babygor> I see. 19:18 < babygor> Not a big deal in this case. Just I did not quite understood why. Tks! 19:20 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 19:24 < Ragnarin> moin moin 19:28 < CIA-9> rene * r24121 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.21 -> 2.6.21.1) 19:30 < Ragnarin> o_o 19:30 < Ragnarin> already? 19:31 < rxr> moin Ragnarin 19:31 < Ragnarin> moin rene 19:31 < Ragnarin> how's it going 19:31 < Ragnarin> ? 19:37 < rxr> oh good, thanks, and self ? 19:43 < Ragnarin> fine here thanks :) 21:26 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-091-089-002-030.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/"] 21:26 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-091-089-002-030.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has joined #t2 22:57 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]"] --- Log closed Sat May 19 00:00:46 2007