T2 IRC Log: 2007-04-16
This is the log as captured by an IRC bot in the channel. The statements are those of the individual people and might not neccessarily reflect the policy and legal rules as set forth by the T2 SDE Project.
--- Log opened Mon Apr 16 00:00:16 2007
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09:32 < rxr> re
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10:18 < CIA-18> rene * r23636 /trunk/package/network/madwifi/madwifi.desc:
10:18 < CIA-18> * updated madwifi (0.9.30.10-r2249-20070329 -> 0.9.30.10-r2257-20070410),
10:18 < CIA-18> though just noe new device ID, ...
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11:18 < CIA-18> rene * r23637 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * updated imagemagick (6.3.3-6 -> 6.3.3-8)
11:25 < CIA-18> rene * r23638 /trunk/package/editors/tea/tea.desc: * updated tea (16.0.5 -> 16.1.0)
11:29 < CIA-18> rene * r23639 /trunk/package/perl/perl-mailtools/perl-mailtools.desc: * updated perl-mailtools (1.74 -> 1.76)
11:32 < CIA-18> rene * r23640 /trunk/package/perl/perl-event-execflow/perl-event-execflow.desc: * updated perl-event-execflow (0.62 -> 0.63)
11:37 < CIA-18> rene * r23641 /trunk/scripts/ (Build-Pkg Build-Target Emerge-Pkg config.hlp config.in):
11:37 < CIA-18> * corrected inverse variable name SDECFG_ABORT_ON_ERROR_AFTER to
11:37 < CIA-18> SDECFG_CONTINUE_ON_ERROR_AFTER, as that is what it really does
11:37 < CIA-18> * also polished associated option names on-the-way
11:55 < CIA-18> rene * r23642 /trunk/package/develop/squirrel/squirrel.desc: * updated squirrel (2_1_stable -> 2.1.1_stable)
12:05 < CIA-18> rene * r23643 /trunk/package/develop/piklab/piklab.desc: * updated piklab (0.14.1 -> 0.14.2)
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12:14 < CIA-18> rene * r23644 /trunk/package/gnustep/gnustep-gui/gnustep-gui.desc: * updated gnustep-gui (0.11.0 -> 0.12.0)
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12:23 < CIA-18> rene * r23646 /trunk/package/develop/ccache/parse-config:
12:23 < CIA-18> * use arch_build, not uname directly, in the ccache/parse-config for
12:23 < CIA-18> toolchain ccache's, as since the introduction of the uname wrapper
12:23 < CIA-18> the uname output and thus the ccache directory did not reflect the
12:23 < CIA-18> actual build architecture anymore
12:24 < CIA-18> rene * r23647 /trunk/package/office/pdfedit/pdfedit.desc: * updated pdfedit (0.2.5 -> 0.3.0)
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13:32 < CIA-18> rene * r23650 /trunk/package/base/pkgconfig/ (pkgconfig.conf pkgconfig.desc):
13:32 < CIA-18> * fixed pkgconfig to not install the profile.d file on toolchain
13:32 < CIA-18> build and only guide the cross compilation on cross builds
13:32 < CIA-18> (e.g. not at toolchain bootstap time)
13:53 < CIA-18> rene * r23651 /trunk/package/www/elinks/elinks.desc: * updated elinks (0.11.2 -> 0.11.3)
13:59 < CIA-18> rene * r23652 /trunk/package/mail/claws-mail/claws-mail.desc: * updated claws-mail (2.8.1 -> 2.9.0)
14:03 < CIA-18> rene * r23653 /trunk/package/multimedia/mav_player/ (. mav_player.cache mav_player.conf mav_player.desc): * added mav_player (1.1.4) - A simple MPEG and AC3 player for Linux, BSD, and Windows systems
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15:59 < CIA-18> susan * r23655 /trunk/package/gpe/nsqld/ (. nsqld.cache nsqld.desc): * added nsqld (0.5.3) - A database
16:18 < mtr> re
16:49 < rxr> hi mtr
16:50 < Dallur> Will 7.0 contain Xorg 7.0 as currenly or will it be upgraded to 7.1/7.2 ?
16:50 < rxr> it will have 7.2++
16:50 < rxr> current trunk already has all the latest X.org packages
16:50 < rxr> even RC xorg-server and xf86-video-intel for native modesetting / XRandR 1.2
16:50 < Dallur> rxr: ok, must have been an out of date file I was checking in svn
16:51 < Dallur> rxr: thx, kind of curious because T2 seems to be the main location for development of nsc driver with geode lx patch and I think there might be a critical but with 7.2/nsc/xv
16:52 < rxr> I just fixed a critical "unresolved symbol bug" in the driver
16:52 < rxr> what issue do you have ?
16:53 < rxr> btw. which chipset do you use? GX, GX2, LX ?
16:53 < Dallur> rxr: signal 11 when ever I try to use xv, xvinfo reports everythign fine
16:53 < Dallur> rxr: LX
16:53 < Dallur> with patch.6
16:54 < rxr> hm - this segfault bug is something I fixed around R1/R2, ... strange
16:54 < rxr> I'll take a look
16:54 < rxr> Dallur: you are not accidently the one I'm in mail contact with ?
16:56 < Dallur> rxr: hmm are you Rene Rebe ?
16:56 < rxr> yes
16:56 < Dallur> rxr: I think someone sent me a query about the driver since he found some guidelines for lx on my website
16:57 < rxr> can you drop the url of your lx site here in the chan
16:57 < Dallur> rxr: i just told him that the driver came from you :)
16:57 < Dallur> http://www.dallur.com/index.php?id=138
16:59 < Dallur> rxr: I have not updated it for a couple of months, I'm still working on the project and I have done a whole lot since
16:59 < Dallur> rxr: complete system with x, alsa, mplayer with all codecs on 40 megs, not bad for gentoo :P
17:10 < rxr> did XVideo ever work for you and did it start to segfault just recently ?
17:11 [Users #t2]
17:11 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur] [ mtr ] [ sepp_] [ valentin]
17:11 [ AStorm ] [ emte_ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz]
17:11 [ CIA-18 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX]
17:11 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
17:11 < Dallur> rxr: xvideo never worked for me
17:11 < Dallur> rxr: Performance is pretty good with just x11 so I did not really bother, but I would like to offload color conversion to hw
17:12 < rxr> hm
17:12 < rxr> beside a bug in the R1 or R2 patch it always worked for me ...
17:12 < rxr> I take a look when the LX bootstrapped the latest X in some minutes
17:12 < Dallur> rxr: It's gcc + xorg7.2 + R6
17:13 < Dallur> rxr: i would really appreciate it, and any tips for debugging this sort of thing (I'm not really a developer, more of an admin)
17:14 < rxr> I guess either acceleration was not correctly detected on build time
17:14 < Dallur> rxr: xvinfo reports full acceleration without any problems
17:14 < rxr> or some other simillar trouble with some XAA XV helper function where some accel pointer is not set correctly
17:15 < rxr> well - there already was one of those unset accel function pointers, I guess you hit what I saw once and fixed
17:15 < rxr> gdb backtrace should tell
17:15 < rxr> the whole x server dies, right ?
17:15 < Dallur> rxr: yup
17:15 < Dallur> rxr: unfortunatly im booting from flash and I don't have room for gdb, could get a hdd and hook it up and install on it
17:17 < rxr> ah no, I guess I'll see the same on mx X11R7.2 thats building on the box here anyway
17:24 < CIA-18> mtr * r23656 /trunk/scripts/functions.in:
17:24 < CIA-18> * fixed some problems with autogen scripts:
17:24 < CIA-18> - only run autogen.sh if there is a configure.in present
17:24 < CIA-18> - run autogen.sh with the build system conf opt's
17:24 < CIA-18> - use ACLOCAL_FLAGS with the builtin autogen script
17:25 < CIA-18> mtr * r23657 /trunk/scripts/functions.in: * added cmake support to package build engine
17:28 < CIA-18> mtr * r23658 /trunk/scripts/functions.in:
17:28 < CIA-18> * changed shared library fixup for cross-compile builds with "$root" != "/",
17:28 < CIA-18> the absolute link to the shared library is not available on the final
17:28 < CIA-18> system, use the relative path instead
17:47 < rxr> mtr: hm - I have strange unresolved unwind symbols in the glibc builds, now
17:47 < Dallur> rxr: Did Silvain (the man who contacted me) ever get back to your/solve the issue, the last mail I was included in you asked him if he had the newest version of the patch
17:48 < rxr> as yes, indeed he contacnted me as well
17:48 < rxr> quite too many LX related mails in my inbox to keep track of all the names, ...)
17:50 < mtr> rxr: now == since my commits this afternoon?
17:50 < rxr> not sure
17:51 < rxr> bisecting our 2800 packages built monster is no fun anymore ...
17:51 < rxr> (/me needs a new Opteron ...)
17:51 < rxr> guess I have to checky pick some revisions and give them a try step-by-step
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17:54 [ AStorm ] [ emte_ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz]
17:54 [ CIA-18 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX]
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18:10 < rxr> Dallur: can confirm it segfaults with lates X
18:10 * rxr taking a look
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18:33 < rxr> 0x080b5261 in xf86XVFillKeyHelper ()
18:33 < rxr> as the last time, ...
19:09 < Dallur> rxr: I just heard back from Silvan, I asked him if he ever solved it and turns out he made a patch
19:09 < Dallur> rxr: I'm forwarding the mail as we speak
19:12 < rxr> yeah, had this commenting out in the R1 patch as well
19:12 < rxr> the really XAA enabling was in R2
19:12 < rxr> I just review why it broke again
19:12 < rxr> the line really should be there and functunal
19:12 < rxr> otherwise your color key is not repainted as needed ...
19:12 < Dallur> rxr: ok so his patch is just commented out xaa :(
19:13 < rxr> just removing the lines, yes
19:13 < rxr> that "works" but is not the "real fix" (tm)
19:14 < rxr> works asn in "works if you do not move to much windows around and just watch the static window playing it's video" or something like that
19:29 < AStorm> Hello
19:29 < AStorm> Still too busy to patchbomb you
19:30 < AStorm> a bit related: do you know of any MIPS assembler supporting bare machine code output (w/o headers)?
19:30 < AStorm> Would proper gas compile do the job?
19:30 < AStorm> (e.g. MIPS R3000 - but can be any other)
19:33 < AStorm> These branch slots there are funny... and weirdly useful.
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20:36 < misl> hi folks
21:14 < mtr> rxr: hi misl
21:15 < misl> hi mtr :-)
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09:32 < rxr> re
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10:18 < CIA-18> rene * r23636 /trunk/package/network/madwifi/madwifi.desc:
10:18 < CIA-18> * updated madwifi (0.9.30.10-r2249-20070329 -> 0.9.30.10-r2257-20070410),
10:18 < CIA-18> though just noe new device ID, ...
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11:18 < CIA-18> rene * r23637 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * updated imagemagick (6.3.3-6 -> 6.3.3-8)
11:25 < CIA-18> rene * r23638 /trunk/package/editors/tea/tea.desc: * updated tea (16.0.5 -> 16.1.0)
11:29 < CIA-18> rene * r23639 /trunk/package/perl/perl-mailtools/perl-mailtools.desc: * updated perl-mailtools (1.74 -> 1.76)
11:32 < CIA-18> rene * r23640 /trunk/package/perl/perl-event-execflow/perl-event-execflow.desc: * updated perl-event-execflow (0.62 -> 0.63)
11:37 < CIA-18> rene * r23641 /trunk/scripts/ (Build-Pkg Build-Target Emerge-Pkg config.hlp config.in):
11:37 < CIA-18> * corrected inverse variable name SDECFG_ABORT_ON_ERROR_AFTER to
11:37 < CIA-18> SDECFG_CONTINUE_ON_ERROR_AFTER, as that is what it really does
11:37 < CIA-18> * also polished associated option names on-the-way
11:55 < CIA-18> rene * r23642 /trunk/package/develop/squirrel/squirrel.desc: * updated squirrel (2_1_stable -> 2.1.1_stable)
12:05 < CIA-18> rene * r23643 /trunk/package/develop/piklab/piklab.desc: * updated piklab (0.14.1 -> 0.14.2)
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12:14 < CIA-18> rene * r23644 /trunk/package/gnustep/gnustep-gui/gnustep-gui.desc: * updated gnustep-gui (0.11.0 -> 0.12.0)
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12:18 < CIA-18> rene * r23645 /trunk/package/mail/msmtp/ (msmtp.conf msmtp.desc): * updated msmtp (1.4.10 -> 1.4.11)
12:23 < CIA-18> rene * r23646 /trunk/package/develop/ccache/parse-config:
12:23 < CIA-18> * use arch_build, not uname directly, in the ccache/parse-config for
12:23 < CIA-18> toolchain ccache's, as since the introduction of the uname wrapper
12:23 < CIA-18> the uname output and thus the ccache directory did not reflect the
12:23 < CIA-18> actual build architecture anymore
12:24 < CIA-18> rene * r23647 /trunk/package/office/pdfedit/pdfedit.desc: * updated pdfedit (0.2.5 -> 0.3.0)
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13:03 < CIA-18> rene * r23648 /trunk/package/multimedia/oxine/oxine.desc: * updated oxine (0.5 -> 0.6)
13:17 < CIA-18> rene * r23649 /trunk/package/network/webmin/webmin.desc: * updated webmin (1.330 -> 1.340)
13:32 < CIA-18> rene * r23650 /trunk/package/base/pkgconfig/ (pkgconfig.conf pkgconfig.desc):
13:32 < CIA-18> * fixed pkgconfig to not install the profile.d file on toolchain
13:32 < CIA-18> build and only guide the cross compilation on cross builds
13:32 < CIA-18> (e.g. not at toolchain bootstap time)
13:53 < CIA-18> rene * r23651 /trunk/package/www/elinks/elinks.desc: * updated elinks (0.11.2 -> 0.11.3)
13:59 < CIA-18> rene * r23652 /trunk/package/mail/claws-mail/claws-mail.desc: * updated claws-mail (2.8.1 -> 2.9.0)
14:03 < CIA-18> rene * r23653 /trunk/package/multimedia/mav_player/ (. mav_player.cache mav_player.conf mav_player.desc): * added mav_player (1.1.4) - A simple MPEG and AC3 player for Linux, BSD, and Windows systems
14:39 < CIA-18> rene * r23654 /trunk/package/python/pyqt/pyqt.desc: * updated pyqt (3.17 -> 3.17.1)
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16:18 < mtr> re
16:49 < rxr> hi mtr
16:50 < Dallur> Will 7.0 contain Xorg 7.0 as currenly or will it be upgraded to 7.1/7.2 ?
16:50 < rxr> it will have 7.2++
16:50 < rxr> current trunk already has all the latest X.org packages
16:50 < rxr> even RC xorg-server and xf86-video-intel for native modesetting / XRandR 1.2
16:50 < Dallur> rxr: ok, must have been an out of date file I was checking in svn
16:51 < Dallur> rxr: thx, kind of curious because T2 seems to be the main location for development of nsc driver with geode lx patch and I think there might be a critical but with 7.2/nsc/xv
16:52 < rxr> I just fixed a critical "unresolved symbol bug" in the driver
16:52 < rxr> what issue do you have ?
16:53 < rxr> btw. which chipset do you use? GX, GX2, LX ?
16:53 < Dallur> rxr: signal 11 when ever I try to use xv, xvinfo reports everythign fine
16:53 < Dallur> rxr: LX
16:53 < Dallur> with patch.6
16:54 < rxr> hm - this segfault bug is something I fixed around R1/R2, ... strange
16:54 < rxr> I'll take a look
16:54 < rxr> Dallur: you are not accidently the one I'm in mail contact with ?
16:56 < Dallur> rxr: hmm are you Rene Rebe ?
16:56 < rxr> yes
16:56 < Dallur> rxr: I think someone sent me a query about the driver since he found some guidelines for lx on my website
16:57 < rxr> can you drop the url of your lx site here in the chan
16:57 < Dallur> rxr: i just told him that the driver came from you :)
16:57 < Dallur> http://www.dallur.com/index.php?id=138
16:59 < Dallur> rxr: I have not updated it for a couple of months, I'm still working on the project and I have done a whole lot since
16:59 < Dallur> rxr: complete system with x, alsa, mplayer with all codecs on 40 megs, not bad for gentoo :P
17:10 < rxr> did XVideo ever work for you and did it start to segfault just recently ?
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17:11 < Dallur> rxr: xvideo never worked for me
17:11 < Dallur> rxr: Performance is pretty good with just x11 so I did not really bother, but I would like to offload color conversion to hw
17:12 < rxr> hm
17:12 < rxr> beside a bug in the R1 or R2 patch it always worked for me ...
17:12 < rxr> I take a look when the LX bootstrapped the latest X in some minutes
17:12 < Dallur> rxr: It's gcc + xorg7.2 + R6
17:13 < Dallur> rxr: i would really appreciate it, and any tips for debugging this sort of thing (I'm not really a developer, more of an admin)
17:14 < rxr> I guess either acceleration was not correctly detected on build time
17:14 < Dallur> rxr: xvinfo reports full acceleration without any problems
17:14 < rxr> or some other simillar trouble with some XAA XV helper function where some accel pointer is not set correctly
17:15 < rxr> well - there already was one of those unset accel function pointers, I guess you hit what I saw once and fixed
17:15 < rxr> gdb backtrace should tell
17:15 < rxr> the whole x server dies, right ?
17:15 < Dallur> rxr: yup
17:15 < Dallur> rxr: unfortunatly im booting from flash and I don't have room for gdb, could get a hdd and hook it up and install on it
17:17 < rxr> ah no, I guess I'll see the same on mx X11R7.2 thats building on the box here anyway
17:24 < CIA-18> mtr * r23656 /trunk/scripts/functions.in:
17:24 < CIA-18> * fixed some problems with autogen scripts:
17:24 < CIA-18> - only run autogen.sh if there is a configure.in present
17:24 < CIA-18> - run autogen.sh with the build system conf opt's
17:24 < CIA-18> - use ACLOCAL_FLAGS with the builtin autogen script
17:25 < CIA-18> mtr * r23657 /trunk/scripts/functions.in: * added cmake support to package build engine
17:28 < CIA-18> mtr * r23658 /trunk/scripts/functions.in:
17:28 < CIA-18> * changed shared library fixup for cross-compile builds with "$root" != "/",
17:28 < CIA-18> the absolute link to the shared library is not available on the final
17:28 < CIA-18> system, use the relative path instead
17:47 < rxr> mtr: hm - I have strange unresolved unwind symbols in the glibc builds, now
17:47 < Dallur> rxr: Did Silvain (the man who contacted me) ever get back to your/solve the issue, the last mail I was included in you asked him if he had the newest version of the patch
17:48 < rxr> as yes, indeed he contacnted me as well
17:48 < rxr> quite too many LX related mails in my inbox to keep track of all the names, ...)
17:50 < mtr> rxr: now == since my commits this afternoon?
17:50 < rxr> not sure
17:51 < rxr> bisecting our 2800 packages built monster is no fun anymore ...
17:51 < rxr> (/me needs a new Opteron ...)
17:51 < rxr> guess I have to checky pick some revisions and give them a try step-by-step
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18:10 < rxr> Dallur: can confirm it segfaults with lates X
18:10 * rxr taking a look
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18:33 < rxr> 0x080b5261 in xf86XVFillKeyHelper ()
18:33 < rxr> as the last time, ...
19:09 < Dallur> rxr: I just heard back from Silvan, I asked him if he ever solved it and turns out he made a patch
19:09 < Dallur> rxr: I'm forwarding the mail as we speak
19:12 < rxr> yeah, had this commenting out in the R1 patch as well
19:12 < rxr> the really XAA enabling was in R2
19:12 < rxr> I just review why it broke again
19:12 < rxr> the line really should be there and functunal
19:12 < rxr> otherwise your color key is not repainted as needed ...
19:12 < Dallur> rxr: ok so his patch is just commented out xaa :(
19:13 < rxr> just removing the lines, yes
19:13 < rxr> that "works" but is not the "real fix" (tm)
19:14 < rxr> works asn in "works if you do not move to much windows around and just watch the static window playing it's video" or something like that
19:29 < AStorm> Hello
19:29 < AStorm> Still too busy to patchbomb you
19:30 < AStorm> a bit related: do you know of any MIPS assembler supporting bare machine code output (w/o headers)?
19:30 < AStorm> Would proper gas compile do the job?
19:30 < AStorm> (e.g. MIPS R3000 - but can be any other)
19:33 < AStorm> These branch slots there are funny... and weirdly useful.
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20:36 < misl> hi folks
21:14 < mtr> rxr: hi misl
21:15 < misl> hi mtr :-)
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