T2 IRC Log: 2007-04-14

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--- Log opened Sat Apr 14 00:00:14 2007
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08:25 < MADze> good morning
09:46 < rxr> moin moin
10:18 < CIA-18> susan * r23552 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-engines/gtk-engines.desc: * updated gtk-engines (2.10.0 -> 2.10.1)
10:18 < CIA-18> susan * r23553 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-keyring/gnome-keyring.desc: * updated gnome-keyring (0.8 -> 0.8.1)
10:19 < CIA-18> susan * r23554 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-vfs/gnome-vfs.desc: * updated gnome-vfs (2.18.0.1 -> 2.18.1)
10:19 < CIA-18> susan * r23555 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-speech/gnome-speech.desc: * updated gnome-speech (0.4.10 -> 0.4.11)
10:19 < CIA-18> susan * r23556 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-doc-utils/gnome-doc-utils.desc: * updated gnome-doc-utils (0.10.1 -> 0.10.3)
10:20 < CIA-18> susan * r23557 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-desktop/gnome-desktop.desc: * updated gnome-desktop (2.18.0 -> 2.18.1)
10:23 < CIA-18> susan * r23558 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-panel/gnome-panel.desc: * updated gnome-panel (2.18.0 -> 2.18.1)
10:29 < CIA-18> rene * r23559 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.20.6 -> 2.6.20.7)
10:58 < CIA-18> susan * r23560 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkhtml/gtkhtml.desc: * updated gtkhtml (3.14.0 -> 3.14.1)
10:58 < CIA-18> susan * r23561 /trunk/package/gnome2/nautilus/nautilus.desc: * updated nautilus (2.18.0.1 -> 2.18.1)
10:58 < CIA-18> susan * r23562 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-python/gnome-python.desc: * updated gnome-python (2.18.0 -> 2.18.2)
10:59 < CIA-18> susan * r23563 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-themes/gnome-themes.desc: * updated gnome-themes (2.18.0 -> 2.18.1)
10:59 < CIA-18> susan * r23564 /trunk/package/gnome2/gthumb/gthumb.desc: * updated gthumb (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2)
10:59 < CIA-18> susan * r23565 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-games/gnome-games.desc: * updated gnome-games (2.18.0.1 -> 2.18.1)
11:00 < CIA-18> susan * r23566 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-system-monitor/gnome-system-monitor.desc: * updated gnome-system-monitor (2.18.0 -> 2.18.1.1)
11:00 < CIA-18> susan * r23567 /trunk/package/gnome2/nautilus-cd-burner/nautilus-cd-burner.desc: * updated nautilus-cd-burner (2.18.0 -> 2.18.1)
11:01 < CIA-18> susan * r23568 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager.desc: * updated gnome-power-manager (2.18.1 -> 2.18.2)
11:17 < CIA-18> rene * r23569 /trunk/package/base/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
11:17 < CIA-18> * reverted r22377, r22278, r22285, install the scsi headers with the C
11:17 < CIA-18> library, as the in-kernel versions cause regressions in hal,
11:17 < CIA-18> dvd+rwtools et al.
11:20 < CIA-18> rene * r23570 /trunk/package/emulators/libspectrum/libspectrum.desc: * updated libspectrum (0.2.2 -> 0.3.0)
11:25 < CIA-18> rene * r23571 /trunk/package/emulators/wine/wine.desc: * updated wine (0.9.34 -> 0.9.35)
11:25 < CIA-18> susan * r23572 /trunk/package/gnome2/liboobs/ (. liboobs.cache liboobs.desc): * added liboobs (2.18.1) - Is a wrapping library to the System Tools Backends
11:25 < CIA-18> susan * r23573 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-screensaver/gnome-screensaver.desc: * updated gnome-screensaver (2.18.0 -> 2.18.1)
11:26 < CIA-18> rene * r23574 /trunk/package/base/usbutils/usbutils.desc: * changed usbutils build priority (186.600 -> 149.000), required be latest hal
11:27 < CIA-18> rene * r23575 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * updated asymptote (1.24 -> 1.25)
11:27 < CIA-18> rene * r23576 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvdrip/dvdrip.desc: * updated dvdrip (0.98.4 -> 0.98.5)
11:28 < CIA-18> rene * r23577 /trunk/package/gnome2/pango/pango.desc: * updated pango (1.16.1 -> 1.16.2)
11:28 < CIA-18> rene * r23578 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.5.1 -> 1.5.1.1)
11:28 < CIA-18> rene * r23579 /trunk/package/develop/nwcc/nwcc.desc: * updated nwcc (0.7.1 -> 0.7.2)
11:28 < CIA-18> rene * r23580 /trunk/package/xorg/cf/cf.desc: * updated cf (2005-10-03 -> 1.0.2)
11:29 < CIA-18> rene * r23581 /trunk/package/gnue/gnue-common/gnue-common.desc: * updated gnue-common (0.6.7 -> 0.6.8)
11:30 < CIA-18> rene * r23582 /trunk/package/gnustep/gnustep-base/gnustep-base.desc: * updated gnustep-base (1.13.0 -> 1.15.0)
11:30 < CIA-18> susan * r23583 /trunk/package/gnome2/gdm/gdm.desc: * updated gdm (2.18.0 -> 2.18.1)
11:31 < CIA-18> rene * r23584 /trunk/package/gnustep/gnustep-make/gnustep-make.desc: * updated gnustep-make (1.13.0 -> 2.0.0)
11:31 < CIA-18> susan * r23585 /trunk/package/gnome2/gedit/gedit.desc: * updated gedit (2.18.0 -> 2.18.1)
11:31 < CIA-18> rene * r23586 /trunk/package/network/nagios/nagios.desc: * updated nagios (2.8 -> 2.9)
12:05 < MADze> huhu
12:06 * rxr waves
12:06 < rxr> hi
12:06 < CIA-18> susan * r23587 /trunk/package/gnome2/fast-user-switch-applet/ (4 files): * added fast-user-switch-applet (2.18.0) - A applet for switching between users
12:06 < MADze> hei rxr
12:06 < MADze> rxr: kannst du mir vielleicht weiterhelfen? hab da nen problem beim bauen eines embedded targets
12:07 < rxr> hm, ja - vielleicht
12:07 < rxr> is your english good as well, as the chan is normally en due internation people listening and reading the backlog ...
12:07 < MADze> das packet procps kann er nicht kompilieren. ncurses und ncurs-dev sind aber installiert.
12:07 < MADze> ah okay
12:08 < rxr> though de is fine as well ...
12:08 < rxr> was auch immer ... :-)
12:08 < rxr> do you use trunk or 6.0 ?
12:08 < MADze> he cant compile the procps package
12:08 < rxr> dietlibc or uclibc ?
12:08 < MADze> 6.0.3
12:08 < rxr> you mean curses-dev on your host, right?
12:08 < MADze> thats doesent matter which lib, ob both settings
12:09 < MADze> yes, curses-dev
12:09 < rxr> when the errors is 1-procps, than the build system does not matter as the package is cross bulid with stuff out of the fresh sandbox
12:09 < MADze> the build host is an fedora core 6 system
12:09 < rxr> can you post the error somewhere?
12:10 < MADze> the last 3 lines
12:10 < MADze> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-procps.out -> 1-procps.err
12:10 < MADze> == 04/14/07 08:07:56 =[1]=> Aborted building package procps.
12:10 < MADze> -> Unmounting loop mounts ...
12:11 < MADze> watch.c:93: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '{' token
12:11 < MADze> watch.c:139: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '{' token
12:11 < MADze> watch.c:324: error: old-style parameter declarations in prototyped function definition
12:11 < MADze> /usr/include/ncurses/ncurses.h:202: error: parameter name omitted
12:11 < MADze> watch.c:324: error: expected '{' at end of input
12:11 < MADze> make: *** [watch.o] Error 1
12:11 < rxr> ok, the truncated error above would be of interested
12:11 < rxr> ah yes
12:11 < rxr> aha, .oO
12:11 < MADze> yeah? .-D
12:11 < rxr> it's pickup up host stuff
12:11 < rxr> /usr/include
12:11 < MADze> yes
12:11 < rxr> that of course does not mix well
12:11 < MADze> /usr/include/ncurse
12:11 < MADze> thats not good?
12:11 < rxr> was ncurses already built inside the new sandbox?
12:11 < rxr> no, thats verboten ...
12:11 < MADze> i dont now, where i can look?
12:12 < MADze> vorbidden .-)
12:12 < MADze> forbidden
12:12 < rxr> yeah, verboten and ueber are english cult words these days :-)
12:12 < rxr> you can look in build/$configname-.../var/adm/logs/
12:12 < MADze> hrhr
12:12 < rxr> ../var/adm is is where T2 stores it's admin meta data
12:12 < Stelz> rehi all
12:12 < Stelz> moin rxr
12:12 < rxr> like flists, logs, checksums, ...
12:13 < MADze> okay, wait a moment pls :-) i need some coffe
12:13 < rxr> do you have a 1-ncurses in that log directory ?
12:13 < MADze> hey Stelz
12:13 < Stelz> hi MADze
12:13 < rxr> moin Stelz
12:13 < Stelz> moinmoin ;)
12:13 < rxr> X -1-------- 104.000 base ncurses 5.4 / base/library DIETLIBC FPIC-QUIRK 0
12:13 < rxr> X -1-------- 185.600 base procps 3.2.6 / base/tool 0
12:13 < rxr> ncurses should have been built already
12:14 < MADze> rxr: yes i have: 1-ncurses.log
12:14 < MADze> that tell me that ne ncurse package are build?
12:14 < MADze> ah okay
12:14 < rxr> yes
12:14 < rxr> and it tells me our procps cross build has a bug
12:15 < rxr> that is the upstream package as it probably
12:15 < rxr> and that we do not patch it to pick the correct fresh sysroot header
12:15 < MADze> iam building on an x86er based system for an x86er system
12:15 < rxr> I can take a look
12:15 < MADze> no crosscompile beetween architektures
12:15 < rxr> yes, but the systems can have, and in your embedded uclibc/dietlibc case have different ABI and thus even those headers do not match
12:16 < rxr> even if it would match the ncurses versions could be different enough to be incompatible
12:16 < rxr> so either way we have to correct this
12:17 < MADze> whats the differnet beetween dietlibc and uclibc?
12:18 < rxr> uclibc is cut'n pasted and just shrinked in size and cleaned up code from other libc's
12:18 < rxr> such as the glibc
12:18 < rxr> dietlibc is written from scratch and way more tine
12:18 < rxr> tiny
12:18 < rxr> but also misses some more features
12:18 < rxr> but dietlibc really is a lot smaller than uclibc
12:18 < rxr> while uclibc already is a lot smaller than glibc ...
12:18 < MADze> a okay
12:18 < rxr> http://www.fefe.de/dietlibc/
12:19 < MADze> and what can i do now that i can build an working system?
12:19 < MADze> should i use 6.0.0
12:19 < rxr> nope, that will work neither
12:19 < rxr> that is 6.0.x before .3 will have the same "bug"
12:19 < rxr> I just take a look
12:20 < MADze> ah okay, thx an lot.
12:20 < rxr> if you are familiar with gcc and Makefiles and such you could take a look yourself for the best place to not use a hardcoded ncurses include dir and use the proper sysroot prefix
12:20 < MADze> a lot :-) buggy english, sorry for that
12:20 < rxr> you built the embedded flavour with uclibc, right ?
12:21 < MADze> i have tested both configs
12:22 < MADze> on my embedded system i have enough space
12:47 < CIA-18> susan * r23588 /trunk/package/gnome2/sabayon/ (. sabayon.cache sabayon.conf sabayon.desc): * added sabayon (2.18.1) - Is a system administration tool to manage GNOME desktop settings
13:24 < rxr> MADze: I would have a patch to test
13:25 < rxr> did you checkout using SVN or used the tarball =
13:27 < CIA-18> rene * r23589 /branches/6.0/package/base/procps/ (ncurses-cross.patch procps.conf): * fixed procps to pickup the new sysroot ncurses headers
13:29 < CIA-18> susan * r23590 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution/evolution.desc: * updated evolution (2.9.92 -> 2.10.1)
13:30 < CIA-18> susan * r23591 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution-data-server/evolution-data-server.desc: * updated evolution-data-server (1.9.92 -> 1.10.1)
13:30 < CIA-18> susan * r23592 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution-webcal/evolution-webcal.desc: * updated evolution-webcal (2.8.0 -> 2.10.0)
13:35 < MADze> tarball
13:35 < rxr> you can download the single files with a brower if you just like to test this update:;
13:35 < MADze> yes i would
13:36 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/6.0/package/base/procps/procps.conf
13:36 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/6.0/package/base/procps/ncurses-cross.patch
13:36 < rxr> just drop them into package/base/procps/
13:38 < MADze> thx, okay i will compile wiuclib
13:38 < MADze> with uclib
13:39 < MADze> an generic system, no embedded. no crosscompile
13:39 < MADze> see you later
13:41 < rxr> cu
13:56 < rxr> Loaded: 'image.pnm', 5100x7653 @ 0x0 dpi - spp: 3, bps: 8
14:04 < rxr> negative scan obtained with my SANE/AVision driver :-)
14:04 < rxr> and it could even go 16 bit ...
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14:09 < rxr> [avision] Timeouts: write: 30000, read: 30000, status: 10000
14:09 < rxr> 234181800 bytes, @16bit
14:09 < rxr> that will be a fun of a picture ...
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15:23 < misl> hi folks
15:46 < MADze> muhahahaha
15:46 < MADze> its done, the patch is working! :-)
15:46 < MADze> rxr: thx for that. ding ding ding .-)
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16:59 < rxr> re
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17:32 < CIA-18> rene * r23593 /trunk/package/base/procps/ (ncurses-cross.patch procps.conf): * merged r23589 from branches/6.0: fixed procps to pickup the new sysroot ncurses headers
17:34 < CIA-18> rene * r23594 /trunk/package/x86/bin86/ (no-elks.patch no-elks.patch.cross):
17:34 < CIA-18> * always siabled the elks emulation, not only for cross building
17:34 < CIA-18> as the vm86 prerequesits are not always fulfilled
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18:49 < CIA-18> susan * r23596 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-terminal/ (gnome-terminal.desc window-resizing-cvs.patch): * updated gnome-terminal (2.16.1 -> 2.18.0)
19:03 < CIA-18> susan * r23597 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-media/gnome-media.desc: * updated gnome-media (2.16.1 -> 2.18.0)
19:03 < CIA-18> rene * r23598 /trunk/scripts/config.in:
19:03 < CIA-18> * improved cross package selector by honoring the newly intoduced
19:03 < CIA-18> CROSS flags and enable those packages conditionally for stage 1
19:26 < CIA-18> susan * r23599 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-system-tools/ (crack-missing-header.patch gnome-system-tools.desc): * updated gnome-system-tools (2.14.0 -> 2.18.1)
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20:15 < CIA-18> rene * r23600 /trunk/package/ (8 files in 8 dirs): * merged multiple [F] tags of 8 packages into a single [F] tag
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20:33 < CIA-18> rene * r23601 /trunk/package/audio/xmp/xmp.desc: * added missing Category tag to xmp
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20:46 < rxr> hi AStorm
20:46 [Users #t2]
20:46 [@ChanServ] [ emte_] [ mtr ] [ sepp_] [ TobiX ]
20:46 [ AStorm ] [ LMJ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz] [ valentin]
20:46 [ CIA-18 ] [ misl ] [ rxr ] [ th ]
20:46 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
20:46 < AStorm> Hello.
20:46 < AStorm> Almost finished with the system :>
20:54 < rxr> T2 or Gentoo =
20:54 < rxr> ? even
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