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09:54 < rxr> re
09:54 < rxr> R4gnar0k: just remove the obsolete package when you or your friend had time to test the new, in-kernel one :-)
09:55 < CIA-18> susan * r23411 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvbstreamer/dvbstreamer.desc: * updated dvbstreamer (0.6 -> 0.7)
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10:30 < rxr> reinstalling WinXP in kvm patched qemu
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10:30 < rxr> installed it into 2.5G last night in the hope that would be enough for windows + naturally speaking
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10:31 < rxr> unfortunatly windows already eat most of the 2.5 GB only leaving 600 or 900 or what it was MB for NS
10:31 < rxr> and NS needs more, does not even want start installing with that few ...
10:31 < rxr> I think it even was just 600M left, like vanilla WinXP eating 1.9GB or so ... :-(((
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10:52 < mtr> a clean Vista Home installation takes more than 8 GB ...
10:52  * rxr shiffers
10:52 < rxr> good I barely ever get in touch with Windows
10:53 < rxr> the speech recognition is the only thing I want to test it for
10:53 < rxr> older versions of NS run in Wine, just the latest not, yet
10:53 < rxr> if it, Naturally Speaking, appears to work out the focus will be to patch wine until it runs anyway ...
10:56  * mtr accidently found a Vista license on the laptop i bought ;-)
10:57 < mtr> do you use Dragon Naturally Speaking ?
10:57 < rxr> I want to give it another try
10:57 < mtr> www.nuance.de
10:57 < rxr> in the past, I even brought to versions of IBM ViaVoice
10:57 < rxr> back in the 90th - worked quite ok for that itme
10:57 < rxr> of course NS is better today ...
10:58 < rxr> and as I have "contacts" today, I even got the multiple hundred EUR professional version for free :-)
11:00 < mtr> ViaVoice Pro USB, 129 EURO, Standard Edition, 99 EURO
11:00 < mtr> NS 9 Preferred, 199 EURO ...
11:01 < rxr> yeah - but IBM sold ViaVoice to ScanSoft / Nuance
11:01 < rxr> and as far as c't at al. test go NS is the better one these days
11:01 < rxr> while ViaVoice is not really much beeing developped on lately ....
11:01 < rxr> yeah I got this pro that is even more expensive from a Nuance contact for the fun of it ...
11:02 < rxr> http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6764
11:02 < mtr> would be cool to have speech recognition with C/C++ or LUA dialects ;-)
11:02 < rxr> http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7875
11:03  * rxr wonders  why commercial OSs are not futher with such speach recognition and such integrated
11:03 < rxr> if companies like Apple and MS would not develop that much crap but focus on the future we would have been further in intuitive computing todays
11:03 < rxr> -s
11:04 < rxr> well, lucky us, with linux we have a more quality and equally colorful (beryl et al.) environment today and can focus on the future of computing
11:04 < rxr> too  bad there is no ViaVoice / Naturally Speaking a-like Open Source speech recognition out there, yet
11:07 < mtr> yeah, focus should be on usability for john doe, and not feature-ritis with way too complex apps which they cannot get stable and secure
11:08 < rxr> heh - I got the professional version rated at $899.99 over here ...
11:12 < mtr> oh, my comment was about the MS apps (like the shiny new vista outlook client ...) not the ViaVoice or Nuance apps
11:13 < rxr> yeah, ...
11:13 < rxr> vista sucks so badly ...
11:13 < rxr> not only performance and footprint wise
11:13 < rxr> but also the aero glass fluff has such a bad user experience and usability ...
11:14 < rxr> e.g. alone this windows scroll thru thing, with OS X Expose or the Beryl scale you get a way better overview of your windows ...
11:14 < rxr> and so on and so on ...
11:14 < rxr> with some more innovative companies we could have near "Star Trek" style computing today
11:14 < rxr> as een in OS/2 Warp the Via Voice was already integrated in the OS
11:15 < rxr> with that polished and so on over 10 years, ... with suitable apps and so on, ...
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11:51 < CIA-18> rene * r23415 /trunk/package/develop/monotone/monotone.desc: * updated monotone (0.33 -> 0.34)
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13:27 < CIA-18> rene * r23417 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/1.2.0-xcmisc.patch: * imported xorg-server SECURITY patch for CVE-2007-1003
13:28 < CIA-18> rene * r23418 /trunk/package/xorg/libxfont/1.2.7-bdf-fontdir.patch: * imported libx11 SECURITY patch for CVE-2007-1351 and CVE-2007-1352
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13:43 [@ChanServ] [ emte__] [ mtr     ] [ rxr ] [ th   ] [ valentin] 
13:43 [ CIA-18  ] [ LMJ   ] [ R4gnar0k] [ sepp] [ TobiX] 
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15:08 < CIA-18> rene * r23421 /trunk/package/ (base/acpica/ x86/acpica/): * moreved base/acpica -> x86/
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15:26 < serwou> moin moin
15:26 < rxr> moin moin serwou 
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15:27 < LMJ_work> better
15:27 < LMJ_work> how are you rxr ?
15:28 < rxr> good thanks, and self?
15:29 < LMJ_work> fine, doing good
15:29 < LMJ_work> playing with spams ;)
15:29 < LMJ_work> or against ;)
15:30 < LMJ_work> atm, got a little problem with PHP compiled with share module way from Trunk on emt64 : http://pastebin.ca/423847
15:31 < rxr> I guess you disabled this PIE thing and all the rest of the build went well, now ?
15:33 < LMJ_work> should i ?
15:33 < LMJ_work> it diseabled
15:34 < rxr> you had more basic build problems before, how did you made them go away ?
15:35 < LMJ_work> It went ok
15:35 < LMJ_work> i just emerged them
15:37 < rxr> in a prebuilt minimal 6.0.1 or so ?
15:46 < LMJ_work> yes
15:46 < LMJ_work> the last x64 prebuilt one 
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16:41 < LMJ_work> any ideas why it fails ?
16:43 < rxr> nope
16:44 < rxr> only few google references to the unresolved symbol :-(
16:46 < LMJ_work> well, i need gd2 support on php
16:47 < LMJ_work> i wanted to recompile PHP with shared libs to enable it on the fly
16:47 < LMJ_work> but it doesn't work
16:47 < rxr> you build from the 6.0 branch, right ?
16:47 < LMJ_work> 6.0.3
16:48  * rxr doing another grep, one second
16:50 < LMJ_work> that's the thing i want to enable : --with-gd --enable-gd-native-ttf
16:50 < rxr> I wonder where this symbol comes from, a php source, my systrem grep and google.com/codesearch did not reveal anything :-///
16:51 < LMJ_work> arg
16:51 < LMJ_work> wtf
16:51 < rxr> hm - maybe gettext
16:51 < rxr> LMJ_work: yes, you found something ?
16:52 < LMJ_work> no
16:52 < LMJ_work> i can't find anything neither
16:53 < rxr> ok - I quickly test it on my macbook
16:53 < LMJ_work> gonna try to diseable share modules
16:53 < rxr> maybe go into your src.php.*
16:53 < rxr> cd php-*
16:54 < rxr> and do a grep zif_glob *
16:54 < rxr> does it reveal something of interest ?
16:54 < LMJ_work> ERROR-LOG:ext/standard/.libs/basic_functions.o:(.data.rel+0x2dc8): undefined reference to `zif_glob'
16:55 < LMJ_work> ERROR-LOG:ext/standard/.libs/basic_functions.o:(.data.rel+0x2dc8): undefined reference to `zif_glob'
16:55 < LMJ_work> Fichier binaire php-5.1.6/libs/libphp5.so concorde
16:55 < LMJ_work> Fichier binaire php-5.1.6/ext/standard/.libs/basic_functions.o concorde
16:55 < LMJ_work> Fichier binaire php-5.1.6/.libs/libphp5.so concorde
16:55 < LMJ_work> sorry for the french version
16:55 < rxr> no problem
16:55 < rxr> can guess the meaning
16:55 < rxr> hm, hm
16:55 < LMJ_work> binary files     matches
16:55 < rxr> did you ask on the #php channel
16:55 < LMJ_work> not yet
16:55 < rxr> maybe some hard core devel does known something immediately
16:57 < rxr> what does "grep -r zif_glob /usr/include/*"
16:57 < rxr> reveal ?
16:58 < LMJ_work> no
17:02 < LMJ_work> arg, same error with shared modules diseabled
17:03 < rxr> nothing from the grep command above ?
17:06 < LMJ_work> no
17:06 < LMJ_work> 5.2.* should be used for Apache 2.2*
17:09 < LMJ_work> the guy asking me what is the ./configure line i'm using
17:10 < LMJ_work> is there a way to get it somewhere rxr ?
17:10 < rxr> /var/adm/logs/9-php.err
17:10 < LMJ_work> yes
17:10 < rxr> look / grep for Running lines
17:10 < LMJ_work> i can see it
17:11 < rxr> there should be Running: ./configure ...
17:15 < LMJ_work> brb at home
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20:23 < rxr> hm - strange, the installshield of NS in a virtual Windows just exists after loading the damn .exe
20:23 < rxr> well - try tomorrow with more virtual RAM or so ...
20:23 < rxr> strange ....
20:23 < rxr> so - cu then
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21:12 < misl> hi folks
21:29 < Stelz> rehi misl
21:29 < Stelz> nice to cya
21:48 < misl> hi Stelz
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